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see in arizona, sort of part of the theater of losing so that we can further their grievance as to what happened. >> think you should try to win votes. and try to get the majority of them. marc elias, thank you very much. that is all for thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening. >> try to win an election, not try and steal it. how about that. >> coming in hot. >> thank you, chris. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. it is too easy to make fun of former president donald trump and the nft collection he launched today. we are not going to do it.
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we could do a whole big thing on how these quote unquote trading cards are trump photo shopped into the scenarios of a 10-year-old boy. this one where he's a cowboy. this one where he's an astronaut. this one where he's a race car driver. this one where he's superman. this one where he is so cool, hollywood has changed his name to trump world. this one, where he is some big important stock guy. we aren't going to. the comedy is just too obvious. it's low hanging fruit. we could talk about the bizarre video he put out to promote this thing today. we could talk about how it seems like the kind of infomercial yoi see when you wake up at 2:00 a.m. and the tv is still on. we just did the perfectly legal action of right clicking on thei and using copy, paste.
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even the mere fact that yesterday trump hyped the launch of these low quality photo shopped jobs as a quote unquote major announcement just feels so easy. it would be like stealing candy from a baby to make fun of that so we are not going to do it. we will not stoop that low. but i do think trump's nft announcement is worth paying attention to for one reason. i don't think it's news that trump is doing another big blatant grift. trump doing something like that is about as revelatory as the fact that water is wet. what waste amazing is that the conservative ecosystem that has propped him up for years now seems to be embarrassed by him. >> trump announced that he had a major announcement today and in the major announcement it is the sale of a, what do you call the -- >> digital playing cards. >> and he's a trump thing.
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there is the assumption -- >> whoever advised him on that, i would fire them immediately. >> they're called trump digital trading cards. these cards feature some of the reallyfe incredible -- >> i got it. i can't watch it again. make it stop. >> the first one was trump national security adviser/wild conspiracy theorist mike flynn, and the former chief strategist/current far right tv host, steve bannon. even they can't get on board with this thing, and that's not cherry picking reactions. major conservative outlets had a field day roasting the former president, the guy they used to write fluff pieces. the "new york post" called them cringy. the washington examiner said he was mercilessly mocked. and a writer said i voted for trump twice. i have zero animosity to anyone who remains a fan.
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but man, this kind of stuff is making it really difficult to not just throw my hands up. it's not just nfts that have conservatives hiding their maga hats on a high shelf in the closet. as editor and chief of the conservative magazine wrote yesterday, it's hard to imagine how trump could have had a worse month long run. ordinarily one might say a way of exaggerating to emphasize the point, it could only have had worse if he had dinner with a nazi, but of course he did that too. and it's not just conservative media who seems to be abandoning trump, it looks like his donors are too. in a key fundraising window after trump announced his bid for the presidency, trump raised a grand total of $4.2 million. $4 million over two weeks. $4 million is a lot for an individual, butli for a presidential campaign these days, it is nothing. compare it to the $130 million trump raised in the two weeks following the 2020 election.
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if that, all of that was not enough cold water, the latest polling should be. in july, 60% of republicans wanted trump to run wen. now only 47% do. and 45% do not want him to. and that's just polling republicans. yesterday the "wall street journal" released the results of a hypothetical match up between trump and florida governor ron desantis for the republican presidential nomination. desantis beat trump 52-38%. a 14-point margin. now, historically republican primary polling has not mattered this far out. at this point in the 2000 election cycle, elizabeth dole and dan quail were the front runners. in 2008 rudy giuliani seemed like a shoe in. and at this point in 2016, trump wasn't seen as a contender. this feels different. trump is an incredibly known
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entity. joining us now is mark leibovich, staff writer for "the atlantic," and thank you for your servitude, donald trump's washington and the price of submission. there's almost no one in the world i would rather talk to about this. i'm going to refrain from glee. >> high minded show, we don't. >> low hanging fruit. >> let's go back to the nfts. >> let's l do it. >> and let's talk about the disparity between the major announcement trump was promising and the reality of photo shopped images as a 10-year-old fantasy. >> stunning. stunning in the caveat that we have said stunning words like that before. i couldn't believe it, and the fact that stevend bannon, micha flynn. >> michael flynn. >> i'm trying to catch up. i assume that people would go into their corners and say trump is just trump. there was real contempt for people who are absolutely
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fundamentally so loyal to him. that might be an indicator. the polls might be an indicator, anddi look, on its face it's ki of a i joke.of i think that's how people are reacting to it, but i am beginning to think that maybe this actually might be different. the teflon guy might actually finally be turning a corner and the party might be ready to move on from him. >> it also speaks to the character of a man who -- part of trump's appeal and part of the thing that he was, you know, granted, i think, reluctantly in some corners was that he understood the sort of pulse of the american electorate, and he had a way of communicating and they didn't see him as the grifter as some other people, especially in the media understood i him to be. this is the first time where you feel likebe he has lost his sal pitch. they're not picking up what he' putting down. they're not buying what he's selling. >> there's a greater eye wroll. he could go to iowa, michigan,
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ohio tomorrow and i'm almost certain could get 20,000 people somewhere. ron desantis, maybe a higher curiousty rate. right nowcu you have this one-to-one race. mike pence, ted cruz, any other republicans, liz cheney, aren't the kind of people that are going to defer to ron desantis and decide to step down. i still think despite all of this he is the overwhelming front runner and has to be takes very seriously because of that. >> and i want to talk about ron desantis, someone you have been writingt about at the atlantic. i laughed when i read the latest piece. we're going it get to it in a second. i do think, setting aside the presidential race. let's just remind everybody, years away, beyond just the acolytes cringing at what trump is doing, the right wing media is, you know, the fact that he seems to havehe lost rupert murdoch who's running "new york post" headlines that say trumpty
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dumpty, is fox news next, and it begs the question, who's going to be there to rush to his side, is there anything the man can do to sort of turn the wheel back to a time when he was more championed, if you will, by the right wing world. >> my sense is, and this is a personal pet issue for me. there has been such a high level cowardice up and down the conservative media ecosystem, the republican party. if he does turn a corner, if he justif sort of gains some momenm and normalcy back, i am of the belief that most people will fall into line again, i think. >> you say gain some normally back. it's ptsd from everybody who watched the presidency. there would be moments that trump would do something outlandish and his advisers would have him reading a teleprompter, he's become presidential again. he understands he can't act like
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that, and then again, the joke was on us every single time because he would continue to do something outlandish. trump does not have easy levers to use to change the narratives. it's not as though he can have a good legislative section as governors who are running or use his executive powers to pick useful fights. all he's got is himself and maybe a couple of documents of classified documents down at mar-a-lago and a bunch of nfts and boris epshteyn. that's what he's got. those are the tools in his arsenal. >> if he weren't so lazy. if he weren't so uncreative. he could do desantis like things. he could go to the border. he could do an event in an inner city to highlight crime. he could do something, i don't know, in the middle east like, you know, visit a friendly capital somewhere where people still love trump. there are things people can do, if you're a serious politician, if you're willing to do the work here, that could accentuate the
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good that he perceives and many in the conservative world perceive as him having. ultimately, the lack of levers he has to , play, but also his just laziness and frankly he almost feels bored. he feels like this is played out. in some ways, he is projecting or the conservative base or maga base is respond to go what they see in him. maybe i'm projecting my wish casting on him. >> boring is something he has never wanted to be. >> he's pretty boring to me. >> the nfts have a twiddling my thumbs with nothing better to do quality. do you think the investigations help him, if the doj goes after him formally. does that help him the way the mueller investigation. >> powerful leaders of the
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republican parties, desantis, his punitive rivals are such coward, they would run to his defense andey make him a bit of martyr that would probably elevate hima in a perverse way. you know, within the republican party. having said that, people say, okay, there are six active investigations, whatever it is. these are all big deals on their own, and look, i don't care if you're a sociopath or what. if it's hanging over you, it is going to take a great deal of psychic resource, financial resource, legal stuff. it's just a lot of time. i don't know, i don't envy that. >> how much legal representation do the nfts pay for. no one can know that answer.ne let's talk about ron desantis, you have some choice analysis until the atlantic. nobody has talked about who ron desantis is as a politician.as we have talked about the legislation on the show. as a person who would have to theoretically con tend with
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trump in the arena in which he is most comfortable the blood sport of debate and campaigning, ron desantis, as a curious bird, heres a excerpt from your piece, i'd rather have teeth pulled without anesthetic. to sum up, desantis is not a fun and convivial dude. he prefers to keep his ear buds in, his step away from the vehicle vibes are strong. on a debate stage, all of trump's strengths go to desantis's weaknesses. desantis is dower and doesn't improvise. he would launch any charm offensive unarmed. that's not exactly a ringin endorsement of what may come in 2024. >> and he might have a completely personality overhaul. >> how can anyone really
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truly -- >> floridae is a magical place. he can do anything. there's a long tradition of sort of next big things who are just built up. donors love them. they win elections like desantis did last month in pretty impressive fashion. they come out to play, and it's like, oh, where's president beto o'rourke or rick perry or scott walker, jeb bush. desantis right now seems to have the theoretical field to himself. i think his personality type, people who know him in florida, who have served with him in congress, other republican governors in other states who were serving when he was there all say that trump is the kind of person who can run circles around someone who is not comfortable in their political skin, doesn't have the greatest stage presence. maybe i'm being shallow here, i don't think that's a good match up for desantis, and i'm not
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sure he's going to wear it well. >> as one of your sources said, he would gut desantis like a -- >> he likes those violent metaphors. >> a thrill and an honor to have you on set. staff writer for "the atlantic," great reporting on ron desantis and everypo other aspect of politics. thanks for the time today, my friend. >> thank you, alex. we have lots more coming up this hour. republican this scene inside the u.s. capitol on january 6th. republican lawmakers gleefully applauding as members of their own party objected to the electoral college. senator amy klobuchar joins us later in the show. what congress has in the works to prevent future elections from being stolen in the same way. the i day is almost here. the january 6th committee is set to release their final report next week. we'll break it down. stay with us. week.
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we'll break it down. stay with us
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on january 6th, mark meadows was getting these text messages back at the white house. dozens of texts urged immediate action by the
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president. quote, potus has to come out firmly and tell the protesters to dissipate. someone is going to get killed. in another, mark, he needs to stop this now. a third, in all caps, tell them to go home. a fourth, and i quote, potus needs to calm this [ bleep ] down. >> it was over a year ago that liz cheney revealed text message sent from republican members of congress and conservative media houses to mark meadows during the january 6th attack. they requested the same thing, for trump to do something, anything to stop the attack. these messages were revealing in that they pointed towards trump and his inaction. equally revealing is what liz cheney said next. >> these nonprivileged texts are further evidence of president
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trump's supreme dereliction of duty during those 187 minutes, and mr. meadows' testimony will bear on another key question before this committee. did donald trump through action or inaction, corruptly seek to obstruct or impede congress's official proceedings to count electoral votes. >> cheney was suggesting deliberately for the first time that trump might have committed a felony, and the language she carefully used and later repeated pointed to a specific section of the criminal code under section 1512 of title 18. that says whoever obstructs, influences or impedes any official proceeding or attempts to do so shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not more than 20 years or both. a year later, the january 6th committee is ready to present its conclusions. that will happen next week. on monday, the panel is expected to meet and consider issuing
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criminal and civil referrals. now, house committee issuing referrals is just that, referrals, the power of prosecution rests with the justice department. but it is worth noting that the four members of the special subcommittee analyzing whether to make these criminal referrals in the first place, those people are all lawyers. all with prosecutorial and trial experience. they know what they're doing. further more, representative jamie raskin who's leading the subcommittee said while they're largely relying on publicly known evidence, in some cases there may be evidence that has not yet come to light. he also said we are going through the pain staking work of analyzing how much evidence we have and which things we think rise to the level of referral to the full committee. joining us now is luke broadwater, congressional reporter for the "new york times." thank you for being here. it's great to see you. we wanted to play that old sound
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of liz cheney because what's so abundantly clear is from the inception of this committee, from the first televised hearing, the congress people on the committee were referring to criminal statutes. they were building a legal case against those involved in the january 6th plot, and i just wonder how much do you expect their referrals to not be vague but highly specific and incite criminal code and make it difficult for the doj to ignore referrals and otherwise push them aside. >> i do expect them to be quite specific, you know, that team of four lawyers that you pointed to are some very accomplished attorneys who have been going through this, and they have spent weeks and weeks working on these referrals and not all of them started off in favor of referrals. zoe lofgren at the beginning of the process was deeply skeptical of congress issuing criminal
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referrals. she thought it wasn't their purview. it was maybe outside of their jurisdiction, not really the right exercise for congress to be doing, but over time, they gained a level of confidence in the investigation that they were doing. they realized that they were ahead of the justice department in many aspects, and they also realized that they had this role to play in educating the public on how certain actions violating certain criminal codes, and they felt that they could even present evidence and influence even the justice department on how to interpret some of these statutes to apply to what they believe were crimes that happened on january 6th and the build up to it. i do expect that we will see multiple criminal referrals on monday. what's yet to be determined is exactly what charges and what they will recommend against which individuals. >> there are two ways of looking at this. this is either going to put a
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lot of pressure on the doj and the special counsel and in turn, merrick garland and the ag or help buttress the case they're developing. do you have a sense of whether there's trepidation about what's coming next week or whether there's enthusiasm and anticipation? >> well, from my understanding, merrick garland and the top lawyers at the doj will say that this has no influence on them one way or the other, that, you know, they're running an independent investigation, yes, it's thank you congress for sending us this letter with your thoughts, but, you know, you're a different branch of government and we're doing our own investigation. you know, that said, i do think what's quite important for the committee is to lay things out for the public at large. and when you do that, you can create a pressure on the justice department. now, the concern from the committee was that this could actually backfire in a way, that it would look untoward, if the political branch is trying to influence the judicial branch.
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ultimately, they came to the view, if they have evidence, if you accumulate all the testimony from interviews, you've gotten all the documents, you need to give it to the justice department. it's almost your duty, that's where they have landed in the end, and i suspect we'll see very specific language about which civil or criminal statutes were violated. >> yeah, just from what we saw earlier this year, i would expect that as well. i do wonder, we've gotten a sort of suggestion that there's going to be new evidence in the report that's issued next week. we know that since the last public hearing, the committee has spoken with tony, both were key players in cassidy hutchinson's bomb shell testimony about what happened with the president on january 6th. do you think that testimony, the information gleaned from those
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interviews will be in the report we see next week? >> yeah, well, so the matter with the secret service was, i think, the last big final leg of this investigation. all of that sort of blew up after the final or the last public hearing that the committee had and the numbers were essentially in reach, learning that text messages had been deleted, that they hadn't gotten full cooperation from the secret service. they believe some of the agents may have misled the committee. they hauled in agents again to reinterview them, and what my understanding of what they have learned is a bunch of conflicting stories. they still do not believe some people were being fully honest with the committee. some people's testimony contradicts certain documents and evidence they have. i know one thing that the committee is looking at is obstruction or interference type of referrals, so that potentially could apply here.
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we might see that on monday. i'm almost positive that we will see a break down of the secret service with sort of a side-by-side comparison of what different testimony was, and remember, they are planning to release the transcripts in the end. even if things don't make a chapter in the report, we will get to read through them all and see exactly what people said to this committee. >> there are going to be a lot of people interested in the transcripts. congressional reporter for the "new york times," luke broadwater, you're going to be reporting a lot next week. thanks for making time, luke. >> thank you. coming up, anti abortion ask -- activists are gearing up for the next big fight using tactics by the environmental movement. what pro choice advocates are doing to try and stop them. that's coming up next. and stopm that's coming up next.
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a group of women in mexico has been busier than ever since the united states supreme court overturned roe v. wade in june. they call themselves las libras. free ones. there's a big reason they are inundated with calls from every corner of the u.s. more than a dozen states have instituted abortion bans or effective bans since that ruling, laws that in some cases
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include prison time for people who aid or perform the procedure, and ban the use of the fda abortion pills. people seeking abortions can order these pills from telemedicine providers who then mail them. in fact, exactly one year ago, the fda decided to permanently allow abortion pills to be mailed. and that is where las libras comes in. they have been providing abortion pills for decades when abortion was first banned there. now that millions of americans have lost access to abortion, calls to provider for covert access to medication abortions, those calls have increased. dramatically. this week, "the washington post's" caroline kitchener reports that the rise has rankled the conservatives who thought dobbs was a big win. they are now trying to do something about this. conservatives are complaining that the abortion bans are not being sufficiently enforced, even though much of the illegal activity is happening in plain
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sight. everyone who is trafficking these pills should be in jail for traffic said the president of susan b. anthony pro life american who has started to speak with republican governors about the prevalence of illegal abortion pill measures. one group has coopted the environmental movement, re-purposing its strategies to limit access to health care. students for life of america is focused on the environmental harm it says is caused by medication abortions. specifically from fetal remains flushed down the toilet as often happens when women take abortion pills at home. the group is making plans to systematically test the water. erin brockovich style in several large u.s. cities, searching for contaminants they say result from medication abortion. the students for life of america president said she will be meeting with republican attorneys general in the new year to discuss issuing statewide injunctions against abortion pills based on the group's claims about toxic waste water.
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as the fight ramps up, it's quickly becoming the next frontier of the fight for antiabortion activists. joining us is "the washington post" reporter covering abortion. let me first start with the new strategy and how feasible it is to try and trace women who have had medication abortions through sewage water. is that eventual possible? can you do such a thing with that kind of accuracy? >> well, it wouldn't so much be to trace the women as to -- their claim is that these medications are creating toxic water, and they are hoping to create some kind of injunction against these pills broadly, so the idea is to make abortion pills illegal, you know, not just in texas and oklahoma, states that already have bans, but also in california and new york. that's the end goal for some of these groups that i think are
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growing increasingly desperate about, you know, what they see as this catastrophic problem. >> they're effectively using an environmental argument to outlaw abortion pills. is that what we're to glean from all of this, and do you think that's something that's going to find favor with the court? >> exactly. i mean, i have learned covering this abortion beat that nothing -- the things that sound wild, you should not dismiss. we have seen time and time again that the antiabortion movement has come up with new and creative ways to crack down on this procedure. and often times, especially in the past few years, they have been successful, so i think we have to wait and see how this plays out. >> we also have reporting that republicans in texas are trying to speak or they're trying to work on a bill that would block web sites that lead women to go and get or access these abortion pills. it reminds me of other countries in the world where web sites are blocked to cut back on people's
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personal freedoms. i won't go down that rabbit hole, but in terms of those efforts, where is that effort in the court system right now, and how favorable is the landscape in texas which of course has been leading the way in anti-choice legislation. >> alex, texas is very much a testing ground. they convene once every two years, and it is the place to look if you're interesting in what the rest of the country could be doing a few years from now or next year on the issue of abortion. i have been watching them closely, and one of the bills they're drafting right now is basically, you know, censoring the internet saying that the people in the state of texas will not be able to go on these web sites, and you know, even anti abortion lawyers have told me that raises, you know, really severe free speech concerns, so i think we'll have to see how it plays out. it really remains to be seen whether there's the political will for these kinds of extreme
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measures, especially what we saw in the midterms with abortion being widely popular. it's a really big question, how much support these republicans are going to have when they push for these kinds of measures. >> you would think the writing would be on the wall, and yet some people choose to look away. caroline, you have been doing great and important reporting on what's happening at the forefront of this issue. thank you for your time and all the work you're doing over there at the post. really appreciate it. >> thank you so much. coming up next, a stunning 147 republicans including eight senators objected to the results of the 2020 election certifying joe biden's win, even after a violent trump supporting mob ransacked their place of work. and now congress finally looks likely to take action on a bipartisan basis to try and prevent a similar coup from happening in the future. one of the key senators behind that effort, minnesota senator amy klobuchar joins us to discuss.
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that's next. amy klobuchar joins us to discuss. that's next.
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when we think and talk about what happened on january 6th, we often focus on what happened outside the capitol that day, but what happened inside the building was just as important. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of vote of the state of arizona that the teller has verified appeared to be regular in form and authentic.
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>> i paul go sart. >> i rise for myself and 60 colleagues to object to the counting of the electoral ballots from arizona. >> is the objection in writing and signed by a senator? >> yes, it is. >> it is. >> a standing ovation from republican lawmakers during a joint session of congress on january 6th for congressman paul gosar and ted cruz who were the first to issue formal challenges to the certification of joe biden's electoral college victory. this was an integral part of the coup attempted on january 6th. in the months since then, republicans have shown almost no appetite to hold the perpetrators of that plot accountable, except for one thing. right now at this very moment, congress is likely to pass a law
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which would make it much harder for a handful of lawmakers to try and subvert a free and fair election. it is called the electoral count reform act, and it would modernize the electoral count act of 1887, an antiquated law that trump and his allies exploited in their attempt to overturn the 2020 election. it would clear up any doubts about whether the vice president can change the electoral count. he or she cannot. it would require 1/5 of the house and senate to sign on to any objection. not a single congressman like paul gosar or a single senator like ted cruz. joining us now is minnesota senator, amy klobuchar. she chairs the senate rules committee and has been leading the effort to get that electoral count act passed. senator klobuchar, it's always great to see you. thank you for being here tonight. is this bill going to pass? >> yes, it is going to pass, and
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senator schumer assured me, and he has been working to get it on the bill as has mitch mcconnell, speaker pelosi, many others. this is very important for our country. i was the one that read the votes that night for arizona. i will never forget in the morning what happened. but mostly, i'll never forget what happened later in the night when at 3:30 in the morning roy blunt and vice president pence and myself were the last three there walking with the three pairs of young pages with the mahogany boxes filled with the electoral ballots up to wyoming. and that was after the insurrection and we said democracy will prevail, and it did. and two weeks later, there we were under that beautiful blue sky with the inauguration of joe biden and kamala harris. i was naive. i thought, well, that's it. the torch has been passed but what we have since learned is that voter suppression efforts
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were, again, made all over the country on election day, just in the last midterms in arizona, people showing up at election spots. this continues. and that is why it is so important that this electoral count act, which was worked on by senator manchin and collins, and so many others. zoe lofgren and liz cheney. it says you cannot use this archaic law from the 1800, rutherford b. hayes days to stop the will of the people. >> what's surprising about the law, first of all, that's an incredible memory, and i'm eager to hear more and more detail about the walking of that mahogany box. what's interesting is it has 15 republicans who have signed on or cosponsored the bill. there are names that will be familiar, retiring senators that have less skin in the game. also signing on, lindsey graham,
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chuck grassley, mitch mcconnell, republicans in leadership have been so loathe to say anything contrary to the conservative line about january 6th. they have been loathe to hold accountable any of the insurrectionists or any of the plotters of this coup, do you see this as an indication that republicans like those might have more of an appetite to act as a check on people like donald trump in the coming years? should we read anything into their support for this bill? >> well, first of all, there was a bit of a check with those midterm elections in the u.s. senate races, could i say. >> yes, yes, and that was because of the voters. i think they're well aware of that, but the second reason is that this bill needed to be reformed. as i said, it's archaic. what we do here, and they agree to this because they understand this could happen at any time again and no one wants another insurrection except maybe one guy who's sitting out there. number one, it says the vice
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president's role is ceremonial. you're not going to have hang mike pence happen again. it's clarifying it's ceremonial. it's clear you have to have 20% of the senators or representatives in each body, 20% have to object in order to get to a vote and a debate. it could take days and days if someone really wanted to gum up the process. as it is one right now, one senator and house member could object from any party, including if their own person won. that is a crazy law, and that's why it needs to be changed and finally, no more fake electors after the fact. they have to be said ahead of time, and there has to be an appeals process put in place. we have made it very clear, and we welcome the republican support. senator blunt and i made changes, approved the bill, we got a 14-1 vote out of the senate rules committee and
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that's part of the reason we have had momentum to get an end of the year package. >> how are you feeling about the coming senate. some of the republicans on this are the guys that are leaving, toomey, blunt, burr, portman, sasse, they are not going to be there. you're going to have jd vance in the upper chamber. democrats have a larger majority than they did before kind of depending on how you look at kyrsten sinema and her role in the upper chamber. are you feeling optimistic? are you having lunch with kyrsten sinema soon? >> she's always had an independent streak and she's made it clear she's going to continue to work with us on the routine votes every single day that we have on judges and the like. i look at it this way. we had a 50/50 crushing majority there, alex, and now we're up to 51. it helps us to get nominees out of committees, all kinds of things, and we were able with
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the president's leadership, we were able to get all kinds of bills done on a bipartisan basis, starting with the senate, i should say, infrastructure bills, the initial gun safety bill. we have so much more to do. the work on semiconductors, making them in america. they were bipartisan efforts, i don't rule that out. am i concerned about what's going on in the house of representatives with some of the people in that caucus, yes, and it was a very very tight situation over there, but it does give some democrats some power to try to work with us to push things through, and we always welcome some republican support as well. you saw miracles happen this last year with odds against us, with the 50/50 vote, we were able to pass bill after bill after bill. >> it's amazing what you got done and with that crushing majority. >> by the way, including just the last week with the respect for marriage act, the fact that
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we finally were able to pass the bill on a federal level with tammy baldwin's leadership and watching senator schumer and speaker pelosi and president biden, vice president harris up there, it was an amazing moment, and all the couples who had fought so hard to get this bill passed, it was something. >> it was a good moment for the country. and it was a bipartisan moment. which is important. >> it was. >> democrat from minnesota, senator amy klobuchar, thank you as always for your time tonight. >> thank you, alex. >> we will be right back. , alex >> we will be right back p. plan b helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation—and you can resume your regular birth control right away. i've got this. ♪♪ ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or
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this was "new york times" ryan max before his twitter account got suddenly suspended. me setting up my matadone account, referring to a twitter competitor, and a meme saying i'm in danger. the joke here is that this "new york times" reporter knew the odds were good that his account might be suspended not because anyone told him it would be, not because he did anything wrong but he fit tonight's pattern. twitter suspended the accounts of half a dozen journalists from
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cnn, "new york times," "the washington post," the suspensions came without warning or explanation but many of the suspended accounts had recently written about a dispute between twitter's new owner, elon musk and a 20-year-old florida college student who uses public information to track musk's jet. we can't say why the suspensions happened. but this is concerning. i would say we would tweet the updates but after doing the segment, i feel a bit like ralph wigham myself, am i in danger. that does it for us. we'll see you tomorrow, and "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. the republican party used to believe in a big ten, which welcomed the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. now we shelter the ignorant, the racist, who only stoke anger and hatred to those who are different than

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