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good morning, i'm lindsey reiser here in new york. we begin with a major milestone in the investigation into the insurrection. this monday the house january six committee set to hold its final public hearing. laying out key findings and voting on issuing criminal referrals. according to three sources after usually involved in the committee's deliberations, a final call has not been made
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unkempt criminal referrals for former president trump. members are said to be considering recommending charges, according to nbc reporting. committee members will be working through the weekend, debating options for referrals ahead of that monday hearing, and a final decision of criminal prosecutions, though, will then be up to the justice department. following monday's meeting the bipartisan committee is set scheduled to release its final report which will include all the evidence supporting possible criminal charges. that will be on wednesday. joining me right now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ali. ali, there have been small leaks here about the charges the committee is considering. what do we know at this hour? >> yes, lindsey, good morning. we know according to sources familiar with the committee's deliberations that this is still something they are actively talking about, and considering. these charges of four criminals, possible criminal referrals to the justice department for former president trump. these are possible charges that include insurrection,
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obstruction of an official proceeding of congress, and conspiracy to defraud the federal government. and committee members have said, for months now, that move this unprecedented would require a unanimous vote by all members. that is something similar to what we saw them do at the last public hearings when they voted to subpoena trump for his documents and testimony. members are saying, now, that they feel confident they have enough evidence to be able to make such an unprecedented decision. committee chairman, benny thompson, is saying that trump is not the only focus of this last public meeting by the committee that is going to take place on monday. he says, there are five or six other referrals for other targets that could be considered. these could be for people like house gop members. who ignored subpoenas by this committee. this could be four witnesses that committee members may think lied to their investigators or people who committee members think may have intimidated their witnesses. so, all of these looming questions and decisions really
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put a renewed spotlight on what we are going to see on monday when the committee meets for, likely, the final time, lindsey. >> well, hanukkah starts tomorrow, christmas is next, week and new year around the corner. is there concerned that the impact of this report could be lost amongst the holidays, and the new congress taking over? >> i do not think so. they have known that their power, as a committee, deval dissolves on the 31st. this is before a new congress is sworn in. republicans will take the majority back in the house in their power as a committee will dissolve. committee members have been fully aware of this deadline. they have known the risks and possible rewards of pushing this last-minute work right up until the finish line. and so, it is unclear whether they are going to feel this renewed pressure to be able to have this report have a lasting impact. what we do know is even though the committee is going to be finishing up their work on monday, and then the report
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will be widely distributed on wednesday, we know the work will live on in the form of these referrals. these could take, possibly, months or even years unfair taken up by agencies like the justice department. so, while they are going to be finishing their physical work, this week, and next week, the legacy of their work as a committee, over a year long investigation now, will live on, lindsay. >> okay, we will dive into that a little bit later, but for now, thank you. i want to bring in former federal proofs acute or, and legal analyst, and the host of the justice matters par cast, and barbara mcquade. she is a professor at the university of michigan law school. barbara is also an msnbc legal analyst. so, glenn, the doj is in the middle of its own investigations. do these referrals, when they come down, mean anything to the special counsel? do they carry weight? >> it means something, but, perhaps not much. they have not been suggestions or recommendations. it is the j 6th committee saying, look, we conducted this
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exhaustive vested qishan. we have reached a decision that the evidence we have developed supports a criminal investigation and prosecution. the doj will say, thank you very much for your input. now, we will make our own independent process tutorial investigation. here is one of the things we should brace for. i think once these thousand transcripts are handed over to the department of justice, it is going to represent a new investigative phase. because, the department of justice will have a lot of leg work to do. reviewing these thousand-plus transcripts, and deciding which among the thousand plus witnesses they might want to present to the grand jury, then they have to go about the task of reviewing the transcript with the witness. they have to see if it is full, fair, accurate, if there are any adjustments that have to be made, or any additions. before you present that witness to the grand jury. i fear, i hesitate to say this, it might actually bog down the investigation, a little bit.
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but, it is an important next step. >> so, we are going to pull that thread a little bit more. but, barbara, first, what will you be watching for a monday when the committee goes over their referrals? if you have been thinking about this, who do you think is most likely to get one? >> yes, i think those are the key questions, lindsey. who and for what? so, in the who category, i have to believe donald trump is at the top of the list. so much of the focus of the testimony, and so much of the misconduct that has been revealed, relates to donald trump. i would expect his name to be number one on the list. i would also expect to see john eastman's name on the list. he is the one who orchestrated this fake electors plot in an effort to disrupt the certification of the vote on january six. i think that jeffrey clark is another one. he is the person who wanted to use the justice department as a weapon to encourage states to reconvene and submit ultimate slates of electors. beyond that i am not sure. i think that mark meadows is certainly a possibility.
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he was there at the center of the storm. we have recently seen a lot of email traffic back and forth between him and others. it suggests that he was, certainly, right there at the elbow of donald trump in orchestrating all of this. and then, it is, as we heard the reporting, it sounds like some of the charges are ones we have been talking about for a long time. like obstruction of official proceeding, and a conspiracy to defraud the united states. the new one we are hearing is a big one. it is inciting insurrection. this is a crime that is not charged. that is because of the strong first amendment defenses that anyone would have against it. and you know, there is nothing illegal about giving a fiery speech, but, if the committee is to recommend charges for inciting insurrection, it will be because they believe that donald trump crossed the legal line with the supreme court that was sent in a case called brandenburg versus ohio. it says that the government can have criminalize speech, unless, it qualifies under this very, very high standards. that is, it is designed for the purpose of just inciting
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imminent, lawless action, and likely to have that effect. so, recommending that charge would mean that it is their finding. >> glenn, you were talking about these hundreds, if not thousands of transcripts of pages that the special counsel office will now have to go through. we have already seen a wave of subpoenas hit donald trump and his allies. a recent way from the special counsel to local officials in battleground states. do you think there will be anything revel attorney in this final report that the doj does not already have in hand? >> yes, it does seem, lindsey, like congress has been out front, sort of, taking the lead on this criminal investigation. albeit, with a few towards legislation to make sure this sort of thing never happens again. i think barb, perhaps, agree with me that it is a little unusual for congress to take the lead on a criminal investigation. but, now we have had two coequal branches of government. the legislative branch investigating these crimes and preparing to issue a report that we suspect will show that
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there is evidence that trump and others committed trump. and you have the judiciary, i think, the best example of it is federal judge david carter who, after some litigation about john eastman's emails, made a ruling. he made a finding that by a preponderance of the evidence, donald trump and john eastman created to federal felonies. in fact, the same to the j six committee is considering referring to for prostitution. so, two coequal bodies of government based on evidence have reached a conclusion on donald trump's crimes. with the department of justice liking behind, that is ordinarily, not what we see in criminal investigations. doj is usually out front indicting before other branches of government really get involved in earnest. >> barbara, the committee could also make other recommendations to other entities besides the justice department. we have the state bar association, the federal
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election commission, what else could we see? >> ethics violations could be recommended to some of the ethics committees. there could be a state crime, as we know, the state of georgia is pursuing crimes against donald trump and others. you could see similar criminal investigations occur in other states. we sought similar kinds of behaviors. it is like arizona, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. there is a whole litany of possibilities. i think when it comes to matters before congress, itself, it gets a little bit tricky for members of congress to make referrals against their own. but, we have seen so much of this. now, these recent text messages where we have got a number of members of congress, in south carolina, ralph norman, he is urging a meadows to persuade donald trump to invoke martial law. and so, whether these amount to crimes or near ethical
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violations, it is important, i think, to hold them accountable. the real question will be whether the new congress with the republican majority in the house will want to go forward with that effort. >> all right, glenn kirschner and barbara mcquade. i'm sure we will hear a lot from you in the coming week. thank you. still to come, a court denies a bid by gop let states continue a trump era rule that kept border policy in place. we will explain what this all means after the break. ter the break. draft fees if she overdraws by $50 or less. and, kyle, well, he's keeping calm with another day to adjust his balance if he overdraws by more than $50. overdraft assist from chase. make more of what's yours. the new subway series menu. the greatest sandwich roster ever assembled. tony, the new outlaw's got double pepper jack and juicy steak. let's get some more analysis on that, chuck. mmm. pepper jack. tender steak. very insightful, guys. the new subway series. what's your pick? we all need fiber for our digestive health, but less than 10% of us get enough each day.
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the immigration policy known as title 42 is set to end next wednesday. amid a growing humanitarian crisis at the southern border. yesterday, a d.c. court of appeals denied a request from 19 gop led states to temporarily keep the trump era covid restrictions for asylum seekers. states are now expected to appeal to the supreme court. title 42 has stopped more than 2 million border crossing since 2020. but, with the end of the policy
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fast approaching the biden administration is preparing for an influx at the border. officials say roughly 2500 migrants, including many children, are arriving at the border, for example, in places like el paso, every day. joining me right now is nbc's gary in delaware. gary, tell us more about the history of title 42 and what the end of this policy could mean. >> hey there, lindsey, title 42 was put into place by the trump administration back in march, 2020. this was at the very beginning of the covid pandemic. what they called it was a public health measure. there was real concern, at that point, that people were going to be coming into this country and, possibly, spreading covid-19 throughout the country. then, things have progressed since then. as we saw last night with the court saying that title 42 can, indeed, and on wednesday, the supreme court would have to come in between now and wednesday. title 42 is over on wednesday and we are going to be expecting a lot more migrants to, at least, be trying to get
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into the country, lindsey? >> so, take us through some of the court decisions that have gotten us here. and also, how the biden administration is going to prepare to handle more people preparing to cross over. >> yes, so, in november a fight federal judge said that title 42 does have to come to an end because the public health emergency is no longer as serious as it was back in 2020. but, the biden administration knows this is going to increase the number of people who are going to attempt to claim asylum in this country. so, they are hiring thousands more border patrol agents, and putting a processing centers throughout the border. but, this is something the biden administration is really aware of. it could be a problem, and they have released a statement overnight that says, in part, to be cleared the lifting of title 42 public health order does not mean the border is open. anyone who suggests otherwise is doing the work of smugglers, spreading misinformation to make a quick buck off vulnerable immigrants. but, this could increase the
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number of people, by the thousands, who are trying to get into this country. >> and look, it is cold right now. how are cities along the border preparing? >> so, every city is doing something different. one thing is going to very much continue according to folks that i'm talking to the texas governor's office. that is the busing of migrants out of these border towns to democratic run cities around the country. chicago, philadelphia, new york, washington d.c.. they have received more than 14,000 migrants from texas since just april at this year. the governor's office in texas tells me, that is going to continue for the foreseeable future, lindsey? >> all right, gary, thank you so much. joining me for now on this conversation, a laura, clinical professor of law colombian -- and the director of the immigrants rights clinic, a laura, thank you for being with us. what is your prediction of what we are going to see once title 42 is lifted if the supreme court does not step in between now and wednesday? >> as your correspondent noted, there will be a rapid increase
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of asylum seekers and other migrants crossing the border. this is not at all surprising as four years there has been a bottleneck of a style of thinkers and other migrants who have been expelled from the united states who have lawful, and invalid claims to refugee protection. they are entitled, under both domestic law and international law, to seek protections in the united states. it will pose a burden to border cities who have been responding with grave humanitarian concern, trying to provide thousands of migrants with shelter, food, warm clothing, and there is particular concern about especially vulnerable migrants. this includes children's and young families. >> elora, many of the young women and men and children are forced to leave their countries. many dealing with horrendous conditions along the journey. what happens when they get here? what are their lives like? >> once title 42 is lifted
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those asylum seekers should have the opportunity to seek asylum in the united states. it is a long process. it often begins with an individual or family being put in detention. once they have passed what is called, a credible fear screaming interview, it is decided whether or not they have a threshold claim for asylum relief in this country. if so, they are released from detention. if not, they are subject to immediate deportation. at that point, once the person is released into the united states, they often try to make ends meet. they try to live with family members or friends. or these communities, until they are able to establish themselves in the united states. a major concern that asylum seekers have is the ability to look work lawfully in the united states. one asylum seekers first arrived they are not entitled to lawfully work in the united states. they need to wait, first, to
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file an asylum application, and then, wait another six months before they are eligible to work lawfully. and, in the meantime, children of asylum seekers are eligible to attend public schools in the united states. and, by and large, asylum seekers make enormous contributions to our communities, our economies, and we are at a moment where labor shortages prevail throughout the united states as asylum seekers, and other migrants, are critical for filling those labor shortages. >> elora, let's talk more about a longer term solution. it seems like some of the u.s. policy is being set by court decisions. pressure from other countries as opposed to executive or congressional action. how dire is a longer term solution? >> a long term solution is absolutely essential. the last time our country had comprehensive immigration reform is 1986. that was decades ago.
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since then, our emigration system has not adequately responded to humanitarian crises around the world. we are living, now, in a moment of massive human displacement. more people are displaced now in humankind's history, than ever before. and, we anticipate seeing an increased number in displaced people in part, due to climate change and other dire humanitarian conditions. they will arise around the world and we need comprehensive immigration reform, we need a safe, orderly, and efficiently to process asylum seekers, and other migrants at herbal readers, and this should be a bipartisan issue, and, they have certainly have hope among many people that congress passes comprehensive immigration reform in the near future. >> all right, a elora laura, thank you for joining us on such a complex issue. coming up in about face, elon
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because we believe there's an innovator in all of us. overnight, elon musk announced that he was reinstating the twitter cans of several journalists who were suspended earlier this week. musk tweeted that the people have spoken after a twitter poll he conducted showed a majority of respondents wanted the accounts restored, immediately. he had accused the journalists of sharing private information about his whereabouts. but abc news has not been able to verify that allegation. the accusations which sparked an outcry were disputed over an account that tracks must pilot praying include -- joining me right now for more on the decision is nbc reporter, cats and barr. and senior reporter for this, kate moms. cat, first of all, do we know if all the journalists who were suspended have seen their accounts were stored?
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>> so, thanks for having me. around nine journalist saw their account suspended on thursday night. and, some of these journalists have gotten their accounts back there are a few who are still suspended. one of those is an insider, linette lopez, who has been covering elon musk and the stevie standers a tesla, for years. she is still suspended. >> kate, musk was facing a lot of pressure, and outrage over the suspensions here. even threats of sanctions from the eu over this. but, this is not the first time we are seeing issues with huge implications settled by a twitter poll, right? >> no, i mean, since must has taken over twitter, twitter poll seemed to be one of his preferred ways to make gigantic decisions about the company. which is, both novel and slightly alarming. and, this was actually the second iteration of the twitter poll that he used to decide whether to reinstate these
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journalists. he had initially tweeted a poll with what he said was too many options. so, it's the second attempt appeared to work. but, yes, this seems to be one of his preferred ways of making change at twitter. just asking twitter what it thinks. >> kat, tell me more about the twitter policy they were accused of violating, and what that means for the policy moving forward. >> sure, so on wednesday, elon musk tweeted that doxxing someone's realtime location, would no longer be allowed. and, he also tweeted that doing so with a slight delay, so, not exactly real time, would be permissible. and so, the journalists who were suspended under the guise of violating this new doxxing policy, although, it is very unclear how that actually will be applied going forward, or, whether they were in violation of such rule at all, in the first place. >> kate, earlier this morning, one of the journalists whose twitter accounts had been
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suspended talked about that impact this could have. let's take a listen. >> what this will end up doing, which is unfortunate, we'll have a chilling effect. this will be on the coverage of elon musk because the newsletter and sweet that is looking at him harshly will have to think twice and wonder if he can manipulate the terms of service, kind of, on the fly to come up with a reason to ban them. >> do you agree? what problems does this cause. >> yes, i absolutely agree that it will have a chilling effect and i hope it does not. i think a lot of journalists are coming to terms with the fact that if we report on elon critically our accounts might get band and that might just be how it goes forward, as long as he is in control of twitter. but, twitter is still an incredibly important tool for public discussion. journalist used to report stories, to publicize their stroller ease, to chat with sources. the fact that now, at any
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moment, the head of twitter can ban our account, for basically, any reason he deems fit, and retroactively attempt to justify it with changing policies, it is very discomforting for the future of the free press in america, and globally. >> so, we know there are some competitors who are trying to come out on the open market. but, the twitter account of competitor, mastodon, has that been restored? it had been blocked. >> the twitter account for mastodon had been restored. the night that the account was suspended users were also reporting that they could no longer even tweet links to mastodon, or other autonomy is decentralized platforms. so, these types of services have emerged as a major competitor for twitter now that elon musk has taken over a ceo. it is unclear, going forward, if the platform is going to acknowledge the exchanges that were made on thursday night, or, if you could see it happen again. if you can see those types of links block from being able to post on the site, at all. >> kate, what i think a lot of
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people have pointed out is, on one hand, journalists are being targeted by musk. on the other hand, he reinstated, for example, former president trump, far-right voices, qanon fighting at home on the site, again, hate speech, what is this overall saying about the state of affairs in the trend for twitter right now? >> i think it is really stark evidence that the policies that twitter has are being applied completely incoherently. what elon took twitter over he was boasting about being a free speech absolutist. he said that his interpretation of free speech was within the law, and he, sort of, implied that he intended to moderate climate content very, very differently than the previous owners. he intended to let people say, mostly, whatever they did. and, as he has taken some time, in the past few weeks, and understood the realities, and implications of trying to just let everyone on the internet say whatever he wanted, he has
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started to moderate content, hopefully, a little more thoughtfully. but, again, incoherently. i think that this underlines the fact that twitter is currently being run by a man who seems driven by his emotions and vendettas more than creating policies that make sense for facilitating global conversations. >> we will see. kat and kate, we will thank you both. coming up later, legislation meant to dismantle work discrimination of hairstyles dies in the senate. i will talk to a congresswoman who plans to revive the bill before the end of the year. plus, the golden globes are back. we will break down some of the notable nominees ahead. but first, wnba star brittney griner gets emotional on instagram. what she is planning to do next after her detention in russia. keep it right here. ep it right here
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wnba star, brittney griner, is home in phoenix for the holidays. and yesterday, speaking out online for the first time since being free from a ten month stunt in a russian prison. in her first instagram post since february, griner thanked president biden. biden, you brought me home and i know you are committed to bringing paul whelan and all americans home to. i will use my platform to do whatever i can to help you. the seven-time wnba all-star also announced she plans to rejoin her phoenix mercury teammates to play this season.
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say thank you to everyone who supported her. joining me now is terry jackson, executive director of the woman's national basketball association. terry, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, it is a great day. it is a great day, every day since last thursday. it is a great day. >> i want to ask you about that? have you been in touch with brittani since her release? >> i have not, yet. i have sent messages through her team. obviously, to her wife, also. but, what i always said at the end of my message, i have no expectation that i will hear back from you. i know that nobody can love you like your family loves you so i do not look to interrupt or interfere with any moment of their time to reconnect. when the time is right we will. >> very well said, beautiful. i think, terri, we can all safely say that any person can break under the pressure and conditions that she was under well in russia. but, she writes that she kept the faith, dug deep, and what do you know about her
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personally that makes that bring especially true for you? >> you know, this is a beautiful person head to toe. of course, we all know that she is a professional and she is a professional athlete. what she was able to do was draw on inner strength that, like she said, she was able to dig deep and draw on that. she got through the last ten months, nearly ten months. she is a warm person. she is compassionate. i think those were even some of the adjectives that the folks from the state department, used when meeting her. this was after this entire ordeal. compassionate, intelligent, passionate, humble, and, you know, when they use those words it was no surprise to us. it was no surprise to me. that is exactly who britney griner's. but, it was wonderful, and
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affirming that that came across so quickly with folks that she did not even know. we know her to be that person. so, that is what all of that is about. that is what it embodies and all of that is what she was drawing on. and, clearly, her faith. hopefully, the strength that we, you know, across the union were looking to send her through the universe, just to wrap our arms around her. all of that, i am hopeful that she felt all of it. >> terri, he says she's going to play again, the season. that is just five months away. anybody could understand if she would want to take a break. she has been unconditionally for ten months, under that enormous stress. are you surprised at her decision to return? and, what can we expect her return to look like? >> i was overwhelmed when i saw that in the statement that she posted. i was overwhelmed from beginning to end with that statement.
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at the end, i sucked back and i think i gasped out loud and said, wow, because, when i have been asked this question, you know, last week, which returned you guys want her to return, of course, we want her to do what brings her joy. what i have said is in basketball, if it still brings her joy, then we welcome her. we know that the days ahead, you know, that is a journey. we are hopeful that she takes it step, by step, day by day, we are going to be right there with her. if she is joining us in 2023, she said she is, i'm taking her at her word. and then, you know, fans, the players across our union, everyone, they are just overjoyed. they will be fist pumping, excited for her. we are going to take this step-by-step, day by day. >> terry, what is the message that she is sending to say she
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wants to return to play after everything she has been through? >> you know, she is firstly saying that basketball is her love. it is her passion. she looks to be amongst her peers in the w., again. she was also talking about how she wants to use her platform and work alongside those in the state department. work alongside those in the biden administration to keep the stories about wrongfully detained americans, all over the world, to keep their stories alive. so, brittney griner is an incredible human being. what this is telling the world is that what we know. she is an incredible human being. she is generous. she is warm. and she looks to regain. she wants to re-engage with basketball on and off the court. we are going to be, as her union, right there by her side. >> terri jackson, so wonderful
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to talk to you under the circumstances. we appreciate it. >> as i said, every day is a great day. thank you. >> all right, coming up, a devastating loss in the world of entertainment that brings mental health awareness, once again, to the forefront. we are going to discuss after the break.
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i love you so much. >> a tragic loss just before the holidays. earlier this week, dancer, choreographer, dj an executive present do sir on the ellen show steven twitch, died ahead of suicide. this mental health crisis continues to affect so many. in 2020 the cdc reported twice as many suicides as they were homicides. suicide is the second leading cause of death among people ages 25 to 34. a reminder to everybody, check on your loved ones and check in with yourself. joining me right now is doctor joy, a psychologist and host of therapy for black girls podcast. dr. bradford, what are the signs we should be looking for when we might notice a loved one is struggling? >> thank you so much, lindsay, it is a pleasure to be with you
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this morning. i think one thing that is important to really pay attention to is a change in mood. so, people often become more isolated and you may see an increase in anxiety and you may see people talking about ending their life but also giving away prized possessions or making plans to say goodbye when there were not otherwise meet for that. >> dr. bradford, i want to bring up some myths about suicide. i will put them up on the screen. we will take you through some of them. let's go through the first. one block people do not die by suicide. what can you tell us about this? >> for a long time, there was this myth that black people did not die by suicide. we know, of course, that that is not the truth. actually, what we have been seeing is that while during the pandemic, there was a decrease in suicide, other demographics actually had an increase in the black community. particularly, amongst black men. >> wow.
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what about another method? suicide is the abdomen act of selfishness. >> i think one people died by suicide there is this idea that, oh my gosh, what is going to happen to the family? how could someone do this? i think it is very misguided. one people died by suicide, typically, they are in such a crazy amount of pain. it often feels like more of a burden on the family. sometimes, they believe it would be better for their family if they were not there. and so, typically this is not a selfish act. this is one that people used to escape the incredible amount of pain there in. >> doctor, people who are suicidal look depressed. we know that this is simply not true. >> absolutely, i think a lot of the commentary around dj twitch, we see all these videos and pictures of him dancing with his family. people wonder, what could have been going on?
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a lot of the times, you will not outwardly see any signs. people can go on about their lives. especially, in the black community. a lot of our socialization is to put up a strong front and appear okay. even when it is not. sadly, you will not know. you cannot tell by looking at pictures. we do not know how to prod cast or were stays on the internet. we cannot look at pictures, and videos as a sign that everyone is okay. we need to be intentional about asking one another if things actually are okay. >> yes, asking the right questions. this leads to the next mid i want to talk about, doctor. asking someone if they are suicidal will make them suicidal. i mean, what are some ways to get into a conversation asking someone if they are okay? >> lindsey, yes, i think again there is this idea that if you ask someone if they are suicidal you are actually planting the idea of suicide. and, again, we know that is not the truth. actually, when you are directed him asking someone, have you
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had thoughts of ending your life, or are you thinking about taking your own life, we recognize that that actually makes it a safe space for someone to share if they are actually struggling. i think it is also important for us to remember that if we have not been having significant conversations with people, we cannot expect that they are going to open up in a moment of crisis. and so, i think it is a reminder for us all to take study steps to make sure we are connecting with their loved ones, asking the right kinds of questions, and making ourselves a sense of availability if they need it. >> we have been talking about about checking in with others, and i want to talk about checking in with yourself. dealing with seasonal depression, the loss of loved ones, the holidays, it can be hard for nearly everyone. what is the best thing we can do to help ourselves? >> i think, especially around this point of the year, we do have to be very mindful of our boundaries and the expectations we think others have of us. there are a lot of expectation
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-- by all these gifts, to be joyous, when really a lot of people are not feeling that way. i think it is important to show ourselves compassionate embrace. if we are not feeling upbeat unhappy it is okay to release some of those expectations and to take some downtime, right now. >> i want to ask you, dr., before we let you go, about social media and how it can contribute, or help. i mean, on one hand it connects this with people. it helps connect that creation and communication we have been talking about. on the other hand, we see a highlight reel. what is your advice as we, maybe, put our work laptops away? have a little time off but maybe in the downtime on the coach we reach for our phone and start scrolling. >> i do think it is important to regularly audit your social media channels, and make sure they are only followed by people who, and organizations, to provide you with good information and make you feel good about yourself. there can on be the tendency to
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scroll, and compare, and we like our lives are not as good as the ones we see on social media. i also think that in recent times and feels like you know you are connected to seeing what others are doing on social media. it is important to make sure that we are also fostering those connections off line. >> dr. joy harden brad for. thank you so much for joining us. if you know someone struggling with mental health matters please visit the national suicide prevention lifeline on the screen to speak with a train counselor. coming up, a new hour of msnbc reports. the january six committee members are working through the weekend, debating options for criminal referrals. possibly, for former president trump and others. plus, we will take you to qatar ahead of tomorrow's world cup final. this is so much more, straight ahead. ahead. (brent) people love subaru just because it stands for much more than just a car. (vo) through the share the love event, subaru retailers have supported over seventeen hundred
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well, we fell in love through gaming. but now the internet lags and it throws the whole thing off. when did you first discover this lag? i signed us up for t-mobile home internet. ugh! but, we found other interests. i guess we have. [both] finch! let's go! oh yeah! it's not the same. what could you do to solve the problem? we could get xfinity? that's actually super adult of you to suggest. i can't wait to squad up. i love it when you talk nerdy to me. guy, guys, guys, we're still in session. good morning. and i don't know what the heck you're talking about.
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welcome back. i'm listie reiser here at msnbc headquarters in new york. the investigation into january six is possibly coming to a historic conclusion. next week, the house committee investigating the advance of that day set to hold its final public hearing hold laying out key findings and voting on issuing criminal referrals. the panel is also scheduled to release its final report, which is expected to include all of the evidence supporting possible criminal charges. that is expected to happen wednesday. according to three sources actively involved in the committees deliberations, a final call has not been made yet on a criminal referrals for former president trump. but, members are said to be considering recommending charges. back with me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali raffa. ali, what are you hearing about that committee's deliberations this weekend? >> well, lindsey, committee members have said for months that that decision whether or
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not to issue these criminal referrals for the justice department for far president trump would have to be unanimous. all committee members agreeing to do this. and now, ahead of this last public meeting they are going to have on monday, committee members say they are confident they have enough evidence to make such an unprecedented decision. >> this morning, all eyes on the january 6th committee as its year and a half long investigation comes to a close. members using the weekend to complete a lengthy report of their findings and recommendations that will be presented at a final meeting on monday and released widely on wednesday. included in those recommendations, potential criminal referrals to the justice department for former president trump. over his role in the attack on the capital. >> members still debating whether to recommend charges for insurrection, obstruction of an official proceeding of congress, and conspiracy to defraud the federal government. >> we have been very very careful in crafting these recommendations and countering them to the facts that we have
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uncovered. >> while all three charges are possible, three sources actively involved in the panels deliberations tell nbc news, a final call has not been made. what will likely be the last public appearance by the committees seven democrats and two republicans, is the 1000 witness interviews. millions of people's pieces of evidence, and nearly a dozen public hearings that laid out to a painstakingly detailed record of the january 6th capitol insurrection. and trump's efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. the committee, using never before seen video and members of the the as its family and inner circle to lay blame fruit for the violence on his feet. >> you may not send an armed mob to the capitol. so we have been very clear about a number given criminal defenses that are likely to be issued here. >> chairman bennie thompson says, 5 to 6 different types of referrals for other targets are on the table monday, including for ethics and campaign finance violations, as well as legal
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misconduct. critical decisions, members are mulling throughout the weekend. that could shape the legacy this committee leaves behind. we >> -- the justice department its own investigations -- but the deal we have -- to decide whether it -- potential decision by the -- committee members -- is needed for the -- -- the legacy they lead. >> all right -- -- we thank you so much, let's go ahead and talk to -- rodney executive -- . and lucy caldwell, political campaign manager. 2020 we -- . so lucy if charges are levied against matt, -- how does that change the landscape? >> i don't think it does.
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-- they are opinion -- and -- opinion -- orders -- we -- are seeing that -- -- met the -- that this is -- in that they -- they're coming for their hero. >> we yeah -- we political -- -- but -- >> you know, things are just thanks for having me on today, lindsey. we see at -- hearings as fundamentally -- so many americans are much -- going -- on we need to really -- just how much -- melted toward -- fundamentally important and -- make the final --
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massively critical to sort of -- we really saw this -- memorandum -- may republican -- democrat standing up and saying -- we are tired of this -- ties back -- that started with -- manafort and may >> -- always said that -- man how will he and will be a republican -- we know supported -- 20 election and -- do you think the -- committee will make any --
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? >> it's a party and -- attitude -- exactly how may. ballots is the answer, people should be to prepare to get in the. streetscape mccarthy has decided out part from his previous orientation that he's gonna do things like allowed marjorie taylor greene to be on certain committees that participated things like the subpoena power. the train has left the station. all these supposed efforts like by people like kevin mccarthy to write the ship, there these are a lot of transportation metaphors. but all of these ideas that we are going to write the ship and that kevin mccarthy is going to be the adult in the room, that is just wrong. you have establishment
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republicans like kevin mccarthy who are choosing raw political party power over being loyal to our democracy. so, i think it is going to be a very bad scene on capitol hill come january. >> yasmin, do you see whatever we hear on monday or from that final report wednesday having an impact or are both sides just essentially to dug in at this point? >> you know, i think what we are going to be seeing next week is going to be fundamentally important. but as important as what we see in that final report is a little bit of what lucy was mentioning which is, acknowledging that i would say the republican party has become a very narrow tent and that narrow tent is one of election denial and extremism. and, republicans won by a very small margin in this house. as lucy said, depending on who is taking the helm there, it's going to be putting forward an agenda of distraction and that
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is the republican response to these hearings, to this final report. it's always pivoting towards distraction. it is not doing the work of fighting for american families. and we are going to be seen that next week with the response to the final report. but we are also gonna be seeing that in just how little republicans have a plan to actually address any of the issues impacting american families and we are really proud that democrats have been staying the course and staying really really focused on solutions and on the accountability that we need to make sure that no election deniers are ever elected at any level of the ballot moving forward. >> lucy, we know that being on the january six committee has cost republicans politically already. adam kinzinger is leaving congress and he offered a blistering critique of his colleagues in his final floor. speechless is a part of it. we >> had i known that standing for truth would cost me my job, friendships, and even my
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personal security, i would without hesitation do it all over again. when i can rest easy at night knowing that i fulfilled my oath to the office, i know many in this institution cannot do the same. unfortunately, we now live in a world where lives trump truth. where democracy is being challenged by authoritarianism. if we, america's elected leaders, do not start within ourselves for a way out, i fear that this great experiment will fall into the ash heap of history. >> lucy, do you think that speech will resonate with his fellow republicans? >> you know, it will not. but more importantly, there is more that kinzinger said that we didn't play just now. and that was, when he himself a person who has been sort of never trump hero of the january six committee, one of alone
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handful republicans who've stuck their neck out, even adam kinzinger very disappointedly could not resist the opportunity in that speech to participate in the same kind of bogus both sides-ism that is causing us to continue to be in this crisis of our democracy. >> he took the time to basically say, republicans are bad, they're in the cult of trump. but also, a handful of democratic campaign offices operatives the cycle boosted maga candidates in primaries. so they are all bad. it's like, that is not true. and if we cannot. i mean that tactic is. >> it's their strategy, right. they're trying to be some pro trump so maybe easier to beat in the general. >> yes. and i don't support that as a campaign tactic. but the idea that that is equivalent to people like marjorie taylor greene, and an election denialism. people openly promoting violence. it's untrue, and kinzinger should be ashamed that he said that in that speech. so, my point is just that we have to continue to be vigilant
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and i think as conservatives, as former republicans, as republicans who are looking around, we have to resist the temptation of participating in this both sides of a narrative that is just not true. republicans do pose an existential threat to our democracy and we need people like adam kinzinger, when they are holding, to hold up that idea not to still participate in that kind of tribal politics that has been so toxic and is so existentially damaging. >> i only have a few seconds left, but yasmin, your has been on the swivel. nodding in agreement. last word to you? >> you know, i think the biggest divides that we see in this country is between the people who pay attention to politics and the people who do not. and the vast majority of americans have a lot of other stuff on their minds besides politics. and so, i think what lucy rightly said is that people are not gonna be paying attention to every detail of the speeches. but what democrats need to be
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doing between now and 2024 is reminding it democrats, meeting them. excuse, me reminding voters, median and where they are. whether they are republicans, democrats, or independents. that the republican party has become far too extreme and we have got to take back a full trifecta of democratic power in 2024. >> i appreciate the conversation with both of. you yasmin roggio, and lucy caldwell. my thanks, to you. straight ahead, the fight to pass the crown act which protects against workplace discrimination of natural hairstyles. i am going to speak with congressman bonnie watson coleman, who sponsored the bill. next. who sponsored the bill next next lotion to save it from harm. puffs has 50% more lotion and brings soothing relief. don't get burned by winter nose. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue. when you're through with powering through, it's time for theraflu hot liquid medicine. powerful relief so you can restore and recover. theraflu hot beats cold.
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texas. a group of parents accused multiple school districts are feeling to address reports of blatant racism they say their children faced daily. nbc's antonia holmes that talk to one family said that they had no choice but to turn to
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the federal government for help. >> when the camp family moved to 11 texas two years ago, they needed sending their son brady to a new school might come with some challenges. but nothing prepared him, his mom tracy, or stepdad south, for what they were about to endure. >> we feel singled out, we feel the racism here. >> i just feel like, it is blatant incompetence from the schools. >> over the last two school years, brady camp in at least nine other black children say they have been suffering from constant racial harassment. they hear classmates called the monkeys. some students play sounds on their cell phones that mimic the crack of a wig. >> i feel like i'm being locked down. on >> how often would you say you heard the and word? >> it's been every day. >> last spring, someone created an instagram featuring the school's logo, encouraging classmates to send voters of monkeys. his mother was shocked to see a post of her son. >> we watched him change. like his mood, not wanting to go to school, being sad. >> parents brought their
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concerns to love it cooper it cooper school district. eight months later, they say they've never received an update and that white students keep taunting their kids. without local action they felt they had no choice but to turn to the federal government. this week, lawyers filed joint complaint alleging that administrators in lubbock and neighboring slaton texas violated the civil rights of their students by failing to prevent and respond to racial bullying. attorney paged against clay, represents the families. >> the parents come and these complaints, students, they're not asking for. money all they're asking is are equal treatment of the law. >> keith bryan, the district superintendent, says the school has taken appropriate action. and that staff are trained to report bullying. >> do you believe there is racism here in love it cooper? >> i believe that there is, do i think our society is racist? absolutely. do i think it spills over to the schools, i will certainly say it can. we work really hard to try to mitigate that. there is no place in lovett
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cooper where we tolerate racism in any form of. fashion >> he says that the investigation to instagram account remains open. they talk to hundreds of kids and never found out exactly who it was. i was frustrated about that. i sought the help of the fbi. behind the scenes. >> you interviewed hundreds of people, but none of the black students whose faces were posted on that instagram page say that they were interviewed. >> well, i can't speak to that because the administration at that campus did that. >> that monday, night families arrive to a school board meeting and wearing all black. >> we will not quit. we simply will not go away. >> their hope is that the federal government, which can withhold schools from fund funds from schools that violate the law, will intervene. for brady, he's plans to spend the next few months focused on getting good grades. next fall, his family hopes to move to newtown. still, brady has a message for the classmates he will leave behind. >> i have the same i believe
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the same blood as you do. we do the same clothes classes together, and you treat me dearly cause i'm darker than you. why? >> our thanks to antonia hylton, for that report. we >> know the significance that hair plays for the communities that make up the diverse american fabric. for black folks, hair is rooted in stories of strength and resistance. the hair of black women's a crown that tells a story. a story of struggle, triumph, pain, pride, and comfort. the crown acts as a chance for us to make sure that story and the stories of so many other cultures are told. a chance to make sure that those stories aren't punished, but become more of an integral part of the larger american story. >> that was part of senator cory brokers powerful speech, just before senate republicans blocked the passage of the crown act earlier this week.
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the legislation, which already passed in the house, bans discrimination based on hair textures and hairstyles commonly associated with a particular race or national origin. now my next guest, along with our congressional black caucus, is urging senate leadership to include the crown acts in its end of year omnibus funding legislation. joining me right now is congresswoman bonnie watson coleman, lead sponsor of the crown act. congresswoman, thanks for being with us. >> thank, you for having. me and thank you for covering this. i think it's a very important issue. >> let's start with that letter that you and the congressional black hawk gets sent to senate leadership asking for the crowd back to be included in this end of your funding bill. have you heard anything in response, and how it work if it is part of this larger legislation? >> we just sent a letter out after senator cory booker did the live unanimous consent request in the senate, i think on thursday. we sent it out on thursday afternoon, or maybe friday morning. and what it would you, there
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are other things that are going to be included in what will be the funding bill. and, we wanted the crown act to be one of them. because a crown act it has been around for a couple of congressional sessions now. and the ground act is a very simple math fairness piece that we helps you to understand that the definition of discrimination includes, not only the color of your skin or the race that you are, but the hair that you have growing out of your head. the way you wear it, are all manifestations of your race and your culture. and, women and boys and girls and men, have been discriminated against in educational forms, in job situations, simply because of the way they wear their hair. and so, this was a way of
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creating fairness. certainly the way you wear your hair is no illustration of your intellect, hard work, commitment, capacity to do a good job. it is simply an expression of how you want to wear your hair, or how your hair naturally grows. now, we look at some of the young people now who are wearing their hair blue, or purple, or different colors. it doesn't seem to invoke the same reaction from schools and even employers as wearing your hair naturally does. and so, it just sort of undergoes and supports the notion that, this is more than just about hair. this is about discrimination. and this needs to be eliminated. i, mean as far back as 2017, there was a case where they went to court because a woman was hard for a position when private industry and when she
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refused to cut her locks, she was denied that job opportunity. eoc thought that case, and the district court upheld that congress needed to be more clear in what its intent is in the definition of racial discrimination. and so, the crown act is the means by which we clearly can communicate that discrimination, because of the way you wear your hair, which is illegal under the civil rights of. and it is very important because our children in school get suspended for the way they wear their hair. we because it's improper. people get denied public accommodations, they get denied jobs because of the way they wear their hair. x it's 2022. we need to be beyond that. and when the ignorant do not understand that their ignorance is ignorant, we have to engage in rigorous law enforcement and
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education. >> congresswoman, senator rand paul opposes the passage of the act saying that the protection sought by the bill already provided for in federal law. and that its passage would result in a flood of lawsuits. what is your response? >> we're not unlike many other in congress, he doesn't seem to understand what really is happening. before him, on that floor. the 11th district that this case was originally heard in said that there needed to be clarification of the inclusion of hair texture and styles as manifestations of erasing culture, as part of the protection. and so, if it were so clear, we would know that employers would not discriminate against people. so, senator rand paul we. kind of typical of who he is.
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he's never stood with us on the issues of civil rights and voting rights and things of that nature. and he would think that even there was a day when even his hair in its must up way we have evoked some kind of response. but he would have been tonight 's education, or he wouldn't have been denied his job. and he hasn't been denied his right to serve in congress. >> thank you, so much representative bonnie watts been coleman for laying out why this is so important. really appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. >> next, a former texas police officer was found guilty of manslaughter for the shooting death of a touch siena jefferson in 2019. we will speak with her cousin after the break. will spk eawith her cousi after the break. after the break. the drummer, the dribbler, and the day-dreamer... the dribbler's getting hands-on practice with her chase first banking debit card... the drummer's making savings simple with a tap... ...round of applause. and this dreamer, well, she's still learning how to budget, so mom keeps her alerts on full volume.
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high profile trial of a white police officer who shot and killed a black woman in texas. after finding former fort worth
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officer, aaron dean, guilty of manslaughter thursday. the jury must now decide the punishment for his conviction. he is facing 2 to 20 years in prison. dean shot and killed a tatiana jefferson through a window in her home in 2019. after he responded to a call that jefferson's front door was open. jefferson's night nephew, zion, who was eight years old at the time. it was with her during the shooting. yesterday, the jury heard testimony from jefferson's oldest sister, ashley carr who spoke about how the trial has affected zion. >> he was having panic attacks. out for, having an 11 old kid express why he's frustrated why he's mad. when >> jurors will begin deliberating on jeans sentence monday. join me right now is truly the bratton, a cousin of a tatyana jefferson. sure we should leave a, thank you for being with us.
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>> thank you for having me, lindsey. >> she leaf a, what does your families reaction to the verdict and what outcome are you hoping for for sentencing? we do >> understand the gravity of what is happening right now. we are definitely grieving. however, we do know as a family we were just discussing that the new york times reported that since 2015, 48 black women have been killed by police. of which owing to police have been charged, with no convictions to date. so, to have proceeded to conviction, a guilty verdict although in a lesser charge, for what we all know is murder. and with a jury with no black representation in this case, it's a step towards systemic change so that we are grateful for that. but we are a family of a strong fate. and we are praying for the full extent of the law. so we are definitely still holding hands and praying and
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trusting in god we. we want her life to have meaning, to have mattered. we don't want people to sort of forget her and unfortunately these tragedies are far more common than they should be in our black communities. but we do understand the gravity of what is taking place at this moment. >> i want to touch on something you just said because this jury was house with either murder or manslaughter. they ended up convicting dean of a lesser charge. you had mentioned, notably, there were no black jurors. are you covered with how this process played out? >> when the law is the law. and so, we have to believe that the law will do what it has to do. every person, black person that has some injustice deserves to have a swift and fairchild. so we have to just believe that it has gone the way that it is gonna go at this moment. but we believe in -- for greater. absolutely. >> let's talk about zion,
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because he is only 11 years old and he had to testify in this trial. that must have been so hard for him and your family. how is he doing? >> like any child would be doing. he was a child then, he's a child now. they referred to him as a young man often in the trial, but he is a child. and so, any mother would grieve watching their child have to relieve a trial a trauma. and of course any physiological trauma or physical trauma revert to psychological changes. so, he will be getting support and he has been for the last three years. but having to relive that has been horrifying, of course. >> yeah. your family has kept up momentum to make sure that i taught diana's name is not forgotten. what do you want people to know about her and what is your message other families who might be going through something similar? >> you know, what today, what
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we called her stay. she was full of life, bubbly, always cracking jokes and making everyone smile. she wanted to be a doctor. she, as so many other first generation african american students have had to take a break due to her mom being sick, and come home from her pursuit of medicine. and that's why she was home. with don't take care of zion and help with her mom who was ill who has since passed away. but we want them to remember her, and remember that she was -- she wants us to do something about it. she wanted to be a part of the change. so we are committed as a family to keeping her name alive inciting action to shed light on some of the problems and biases that our communities face. not just make her name another hashtag. because she would want, that but some ways that her siblings,
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which we call the a-team have gotten together and started the apache on a project. the attaching on a project is a stem education project that provides free summer camps to students focusing on stem education partnered with tcu, which is texas christian university in our city. she has called the entire family to action. so even individually, we have all branch out to do things to make her proud. so me, myself as a health care professional, i launch black health for me. in the last few years, connecting black patients with black providers. so, she is a person, or was a person of action. wanted to be in medicine, and we will continue to honor her name in that way. as long as we are here. >> she leaf a bratton, thank you so much for your time. >> thank, you lindsay. >> up next, we will go live to get our. we will preview tomorrow's world cup final between france and argentina, in what many are calling a dream matchup. keep it, right here. keep it, right here. keep it, right here. news!
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the stage is finally separate morris filed the world cup. defending champs, france, and its star player a bobby is facing off against argentina. win or lose, it'll be the end of the line for. messi arguably one of the best players in history. he's already announced that this will be his last game at the world cup. that's go to megan fitzgerald, in doha. megan, we've had a month of. soccer targeted stream final.
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what is the mood like on the ground? what >> lindsey, fans are so excited for this match. first, it was who is going to make it to this round. who is going to make the finals. now, it is who is going to win. that we have got to high quality soccer teams. you have france, as you mentioned, led by kylian mbappé. they are the 2018. defending champs, they're out here trying to defend their title. and then you've got to argentina. i mean, argentina is also a powerhouse. led by lionel messi. this is a guy who's practically won every major title in soccer except for one. the world cup. you know he is going for it on sunday tomorrow and his team likely rallying behind him. you know, this has been such an incredible tournament. and it was so unpredictable. we don't know who would get here. but what we know for sure is that tomorrow is shaping up to be a really good game. it kicks off at 10 am eastern. >> so, megan, we are talking about this game tomorrow but there is a lot of activity happening behind.
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to what is going on there? >> that's right. morocco is taking on croatia right now. they are battling out for third and fourth place. the score right now is to one, unless that changes any minute now. you hear the roar. you just never know what is happening. but i look at my producers here. right now there's about ten minutes left in this match. but look, win or lose, morocco. come on. this team has been so incredible from the beginning. in the first round, they played >> -- a tie and then we saw them move on, defeat major powerhouse soccer teams like portugal with cristiano ronaldo. they beat them to get to the semifinals. before that they beat spain. it has been such an incredible run for morocco. when we saw them on wednesday take on france, it was 20. but that really isn't representative of the game, and the way they play. they came out this incredible fight. it lasted throughout the entire game. you've got to give it to morocco. it really has been a statement for, not only all of africa because they're of course the first african nation to advance
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the semifinals. but certainly a win felt throughout the arab world, lindsay. >> all right, megan fitzgerald, thank you so. much it is age old question. are we alone? well now the u.s. military says, despite numerous reports of unidentified anonymous phenomenon, i think i saw that. right we apparently, no animal life has been discovered here on earth, at least for now. just yesterday, a pentagon intended intelligence official says there's nothing to suggest that any of the objects they have seen our of alien origin. the defense department says it will continue to research new reports of uaps, as well as reports dating back decades. now we are going to turn to anti lgbtq plus bills being presented in some states. some lawmakers are proposing new restrictions that negatively effect drag queens and their performances. nbc's kathy park reports from tennessee where one group from the lgbtq+ community is gearing up to fight against these limiting bills. >> veronica lecture annika's 21
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end up weekend brunch show is a staple of nashville's drag scene. but, today the show stops for an announcement. >> we want to make drag reform it's illegal if it is in the public view. so right now, if that law passes i will be committing a potential felony. just letting you know. >> tennessee republican, state senate majority leader jack shawn's, an introduced senate bill three. >> the intent of the legislation is just to simply say that you cannot have sexually explicit entertainment. adult themed entertainment in a public venue where kids might be present. >> the lgbtq+ community have come out saying, look, it targets our community. how do you respond to that? well, i disagree. we are protecting kids and families. and parents, who want to be like their kids to public places. we are not attacking anyone or targeting anyone.
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i have heard references to this bill that it will ban drag shows. no it won't. it just says you can't do something that is sexually explicit. it won't prevent someone dressed in drag from being in a parade, or being in public. i >> don't know who will be the drag police. to judge whether my performance was adult oriented. >> bianca del rio, love that. dress >> the audience for drag is growing. but interest in drag comes amid republican lawmakers in at least five states considering bills to limit drag when children are present. >> earlier this month, far-right groups including the proud boys and some armed members shut down and ohio drag story time. tennessee has seen six events targeted. plus swirling outrage online over videos like this one. showing what appears to be children handing dollar bills to a drag performer. >> there have been news reports about some of these events
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taking place where parents are at their with their kids, and they were mortified. for veronica, outrage like this shows a misunderstanding of drag culture. she says, tipping is not sexual. >> we temper servers, we temper bartenders, which of her sailors, and we tipper drag queens. it's just a gesture of appreciation. >> now, veronica and her fellow drag queens are ramping up for the political fight of their lives, on and off the stage. >> kathy park, nbc news, nashville. >> up next, the golden globes are back. we are going to take a look at the nominees and the return of one of hollywood's biggest nights. pure zzzs sleep plus next day energy with melatonin to help you fall asleep naturally... plus extended-release b-vitamins. wake up feeling refreshed. pure zzzs. sleep better. wake up your best. aubree: i'm aubree. i went to st. jude because i had a cancerous tumor.
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conflicts over diversity forced organizers to cancel this year.
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box office hits like -- won for best drama. and the banshees of into sharon leaves all movies with eight knots including best comedy. i bet elementary racked up five nominations including best comedy series. joining us now is and miss nbc amateur taming contributor. good to see you here, what is your reaction to the nomination so far that we have seen. >> listen, the hollywood foreign press association, the golden globes, are finally back after this year-long heist. and i think folks are really excited. they are meeting a lot of america where they are, where they have been, on their couches watching so many great shows. so many great movies. a few nominations that really stood out for me are ainger angela bassett. she is the first marble cinematic universe actress ever to be nominated for a global globe award for her work as a queen remodelled and in the black panther we're condo forever. also jennifer cool, in huge
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food last weekend's their comeback vehicle she's nominated for best actress in an unlimited series. and then lastly, the music category. it is so stacked this year. we have lady gaga for best original song, rihanna and taylor swift all going head to head. some really big star power. >> avid elementary is a fan favorite among the staff here. once you talk about some of their nominations. five for that show. how impressed are you with that? >> i, mean that show is just so groundbreaking in terms of the back story of when to branson. but also, think about the emmy awards that just happened. the big takeaway there was sherilee ralph in her 60s getting the award that she got. she's also nominated. but really, the entire cast of so many heavy utters to janelle james, going up against charlie graff. quinton brunson, and tyler james >> also getting all these awards. it's kind of interesting to look, at abc, a network is actually having the most nominations for a scripted tv show in the era of streaming when most folks are watching netflix and everything else.
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abc is having this huge moment. >> i would talk to you, chris, about the controversy here. because the golden globes will be back in nbc this year. after a year off because of criticism for the lack of diversity and ethical failings. we should mention, nbc universal is a parent company of nbc news. do you think the hollywood press association has done enough to address these concerns? >> i mean, listen. they have been doing in a lot to look internally at who the voting body is. just so you, know about two years ago, there were only 97 people that were voting for these awards. and they are from 55 different countries. so, a super small group of photographers and journalists from around the world who have so much power because the golden globes really are an indicator, oftentimes, to who will wind up on the ballot on january 12th when ballots go off to the oscars. they have added in 103 non member voters this year. and 55% of them, or 52% are women and 13% are black. so hopefully we will see even more diversity and inclusion as
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the years go back for the hollywood foreign press. >> interestingly, none of the ten movies nominated for best drama or best comedy were directed by women. even though there were some big female directed movies like the woman king. what is your reaction to that factoid? >> i mean, they don't get it right. think about four years ago. natalie portman was on stage and she introduced the best director category and she was like here the all male nominees. and she threw all the shades the world. and i think gina prince biden would as you mentioned for the women king, also sailor out poly for women talking. there's great work from women. but unfortunately, they were all snapped this year. but hopefully next, year hopefully also for the oscars we will see women nominated as well. with >> eddie murphy, set to receive a huge award. talk to me about a living legend that murphy is in the significance of this award. >> eddie murphy is a six-time nominee for the glowing globes. he's won one time for dream girls, by supporting actor.
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but he really is one of those movie stars that is really unparalleled. think about the body of -- work 40 films, trading places, coming to america. and i think the most unanimous yes of the night will be when eddie murphy takes effect's agent gives his speech for the -- award. for sure. >> anything else you're gonna be watching for? looking forward to on that night? >> i think, for me it is just white lotus. i'm a huge fan of that series. i love the finale. jennifer coolidge with her acceptance reads at the emmy awards with hilarious. the lavender bath moment. and i think the golden globes, keep in mind, people are drinking at this word show. there is champagne being tossed around that room. and guzzled. so i look forward to seeing actors back together again, having a great time, tossing back a few drinks, and coming to a stage and making speeches that make us all laugh and feel good for a moment. >> yeah, that is its reputation. it is a party, right? >> it is a total party. i wanna be there next year. >> all right, chris, who do we need to write to? we >> you tell me.
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let's figure that out. >> chris weather spoon, thank you so much. it's so good to talk to you. appreciate it. all, right coming up tomorrow on the sunday show, jonathan kaye part welcomes democratic congresswoman debbie dingell to discuss or push you reach more rural with midwestern voters in the formation of what she is calling the heartland caucus. that is tomorrow on the sunday show, at 10 am, right here on msnbc. and, ahead today. at one p, am on msnbc reports with alex witt, eric zona governor elect will join her to talk about her priorities for the state amid all the distraction from her former challenger, kari lake. that will do it for me today. thank you for watching, alex witt is next. watching, alex witt is next
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a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone, to alex witt reports. we begin this hour with the breaking news. the january six committee is
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actively considering sending multiple criminal referrals of donald trump to the department of justice. the charges they are considering include, inciting an insurrection, obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy. multiple sources are telling nbc news that all three options are on the table, but if i don't call has yet to be made. the panel these two meetings this weekend, they will decide before it votes on its final report, and any potential referrals on monday. meanwhile, the house committee this week is preparing to vote on whether to release six years of tech trump's tax returns to the public. trump of course, it's not the last four years suing to prevent that outcome. until losing in the supreme court. and, more breaking news. a federal appeals court has cleared the way for the administration to lift title 42. that covid related policy allows u.s. officials to expel migrants from the border. attorneys general from 19 republican led states had asked the appeals court to temporarily prevent the end of

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