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saturday night here at 30 rock. >> well it's a good saturday night at 30 rock. it's good to be with, you thanks again for handing off. good evening and welcome to ayman, i'm michael steele in for a man when he. dean new details on the january six committee's final report and the conversations about criminal referrals. then security risk, donald trump was storing classified documents just feet away from mar-a-lago guests. and sore losers. pennsylvania republicans are trying to keep control of the state house despite losing the chamber in the midterms. let's get started. in less than 48 hours, donald trump could make history becoming the first president to be subject of a criminal referral from congress. on monday the january 6th committee will hold what will likely be their final public
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hearing. the panel will lay out its case to the american people showcasing how trump and his allies attempted to hold on to power by whatever means we are necessary. along with representing -- presenting the final report which is expected to be released in full on wednesdays -- on wednesday. the committee members will also hold the public vote on criminal referrals for those involved in the plot to overturn the election. just within the last 24 hours, and d.c. news to learn the committee has yet to make a final decision of possible referrals for the ex president. they're actively considering reflecting 3% charges. those include obstruction of an official proceeding of congress, conspiracy to defraud the united states, and insurrection. those first two charges, obstruction of conspiracy,
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shouldn't come as a shock to anybody. the pedals members had already argued in federal court that they believed it was likely what trump committed when he committed those two felonies. but that last charge, insurrection, that's a different ball game. you may remember, inciting evidence of an erection was a single -- second impeachment trial. it's also a charge that is not been levied against any other defendants involved in the capitol riot. and it carries some serious weight. if convicted, trump could face up to ten years in prison and will be barred from ever holding federal office again. however, and this is important for us to note, folks, the committees referrals are simply recommendations. but if those charges are ultimately filed by the justice department, they will amount to the most serious case ever brought against a president, or former president, in the history of our country. so let's discuss with caroline,
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a federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. and matthew dowd mo, friend, former chief strategist for the bush cheney 2004 presidential campaign and an msnbc political analyst. welcome to both. carol, let's start with a possible charges against trump. what's your immediate reaction to the committees possible recommendations on where you also surprised to see insurrection in that list? >> seeing insurrection is a little bit of a surprise because it is such an extreme potential charge to be bogged. but i wanna put this in context. it's important to bear in line that a referral is a far cry from an indictment and certainly a far cry from bringing a case to trial. referral simply means that one organization is telling another organization, in this case the department of justice, we've looked at this, we're not ruling out criminal charges in fact we think that you should look at this and you may find some criminal action here.
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so it's important to keep that in context. and i think in fact what they're debating right now, what the committee is debating right now is how much they -- how much pressure they want to put on the department of justice. they want to make their statement to the american people that they believe that there's a good likelihood that crimes like insurrection, which is a very serious charge, are a possibility here. but they do want to make the department of justice make them look like they were not doing the job if they ultimately decide to not bring a very serious charge like that. >> matthew, carol has laid out the legal navigation involved here. the committee is also walking a tight rope as well when it comes to the politics. there is a risk in recommending a charge that may barred trump from ever holding office again. could it appear political? what do you think the politics of this says at this moment? >> the whole thing is political and not in a bad sense. this is what this is all about. an insurrection is a political
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act, coupled obviously with violence. in my view, january 6th committee, i don't think, and i know some people want to judge the consists or failure of whether or not donald trump gets convicted. to me, the success or failure of the january 6th commission's did they lay out the truth, what is that truth, and what is the impact of that truth? i think they've already had success which as they demonstrated to the american public this summer that the danger of democracy in our country was at hand. and we, meaning all of us voted, needed to do something about that. so they're gonna weigh the politics of this but this has gone so far beyond politics with what i would say is a corrupt former president in the midst of this. i am really glad that they're going to do this and whatever they lay out, whatever they were for is to me and somewhat secondary to the fact that we have at least gotten closer and
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closer, and closer to the truth of the matter so that the american public can see what happened in the midst of this. >> carol, picking up on what matthew just said, the committee chairman bennie thompson told reporters that the panel could also issue other categories of refers on mondays such as ethics referrals to the house ethics committee, barred discipline referrals, and campaign finance referrals. immediately, these aren't as sexy and flashes criminal referrals but they can have a significant impact on all those involved as well, am i right? >> no question that those kinds of allegations are those kinds of complaints can play a big role, particularly in the house. but of course the control of the house is changing so i'm not an expert in politics but the winds may shift a little bit there. ethics violations against lawyers, if they lose their ability to be lawyers in the future, that can have a very
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sobering effect on people who choose to advise donald trump in the future. and we'll have to sort of bend to his well about what kind of arguments are made in court. so there is a second layer here beneath a big headlines of potential charges against donald trump. those are the kinds of complaints that can be brought against the people who have supported him and sort of taken arguments to their very, very absurd ends. >> matthew, you and i have been in the business of trying to get people to pay attention over the years, right? focus on the message! there's a lot riding on monday's meeting and the american people are likely not going to read the committee's full report. what do you think the panel needs to do to accomplish that -- getting that report out in front of people, we have been what's in their reach an appeal to the american public? >> i think the most important thing is a clear and detailed
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narrative for the american public to see what the extent of the story is. they did a lot of parts of this but i think it's now time to bring this all to conclusion in a way that the american people can understand. i think there will be receptive to that as demonstrated and how they reacted to the midterm elections. this goes to something that carole just mentioned which is i think it's important to do this especially the non-trump referrals that affect congress people, specifically republican congress people because many of those possible republicans who may get a referral based upon their enabling of and attempt to overthrow a peaceful election may hold positions of power in the next congress. they can hold positions of power in the next two and a half weeks or three weeks time. i think it's important for the american public, one, to understand the entire story and a clear and concise way. but also who are the players and that and of those players who are they about to see
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chairing committees involved in regulation of things, involved in supposedly, quote unquote, supporting democracy in the court of it? i think that's the most important part of this. it's just ignore the american public. this isn't over because we're about to hand over congress. congress is about to be taken over by people that are actively involved in this. >> i think that's an incredibly important point to make. and the reason for that really kind of what we already know but also what we are finding out. carol, i want to shift to you, with your to talk about text messages. talking points memo's hunter walker has obtained over 2000 text messages trump's ex chief of staff turned over to the committee. that includes techs between meadows and arizona congressman andy biggs where the pair scheme to put pressure on hours on officials to challenge the election results. despite both seemingly
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admitting, there weren't enough votes to do that. and trump in no way could catch up. could this open up? both bigs and meadows to any legal jeopardy? >> it's possible and it's also, we don't know right now whether all of the text messages have been turned over whether many of them still exist in fact. the story could get fuller. but text messages are sort of a way of seeing what people are really thinking at the moment. and what we don't have a lot of our mark meadows responses to those text messages if there were any. was he just a passive recipient of those text messages or was he agreeing with them or encouraging them. or something like that. we just don't know at this time. but what it does show is a sort of feverish pitch that was -- something had to be done very quickly and it fills in a large part of the picture of what was happening on the afternoon of
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january 6th. >> caroline matthew, we've got a little bit more that i want to talk to about cystic around. ahead, we will continue the conversation about trump's legal troubles with new details of the classified documents stored, as you know, in mar-a-lago. i mar-a-lago this holiday season verizon gives you the new iphone 14 pro. plus apple watch se, ipad and beats fit pro. all on us. and unlimited plans for everyone start at just $35 a line. verizon ♪holiday music playing♪ let's go! ♪♪ mom, let me see your phone. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪
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since the fbi recovered thousands of government records from donald trump's florida state. but could the ex president be hiding even more top secret material? this week, the house oversight committee sent a letter to the national archives requesting review to determine just that. the letter sided last week's bombshell report from the washington post which found that an outside team working with trump's lawyers in a court ordered search had, quote, found two additional documents marked classified in a florida storage unit. meanwhile, a new investigation from the new york times is showing just how easily accessible these classified documents may have been to the
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thousands of visited mar-a-lago in the months after trump left office. 3d model images of trump's estate shows that guests where, at times, partying within feet of the top secret government materials. carol lamb and matthew dowd are back with me. so carroll, this request from the -- separate from the report department of justice ongoing investigation into trump's handling of documents that we see right now. is there a benefit in having these multiple investigations into an issue like this? >> i think there are cost and benefits as a former prosecutor, when i was doing investigations, it was all this concern to me if there was another investigation going on at the same time. you run the risk that you're gonna be tripping over each other, doing something that is going to impact another investigation. i think in this case, everyone sort of knows what the situation is here. there are just these documents
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haphazardly kept in various places. it's cause for growing concern. and congress has a legitimate purpose, separate in part from potential criminal cases. it has a legitimate purpose for understanding the vulnerabilities in the way that these documents are kept, the laws that govern the way these demons are kept. i don't see it as damaging in this instance as i might in another kind of criminal investigation. >> matthew, the house oversight committee only has i guess what, two weeks left before republicans take control of the house and a lot of this goes away. we do you think this investigation will gain any traction between now and then? >> i definitely think the parts of it that feeds into the special prosecutor will gain lots of traction in this. i think this is another example of the house doing what it needs to do, getting the information to the american public, i don't expect any sort of account accountability other
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than the truth on this element as well. but keep in mind one thing i don't think people have fundamentally realized is though the democrats are no longer going to hold the house, the democrats now hold ascent including the independents with 51 votes. which means they have investigative subpoena power which they didn't have in the last two years. so there is to me an opportunity for the democrats and the united states senate to take the baton from the house of stuff that is unfinished if there still needs to be more done and take it and make it a senate investigation instead of a house investigation. they now have an opportunity, because they have enough members on the committee. they have a model that they can use using the members that they have to be able to do that. but again, it isn't even two weeks, michael. it's basically for five days because christmas is next weekend and then you have christmas and new year's and the start of new year. so it's for five days to lay out to the american public.
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and the other part of this which may or may not be related is the fact that the house committees is going to vote on donald trump's text returns. so there's another element that they could vote to make them public which in my view, in my opinion they should vote, they should vote and make them public because i think the public has a direct interest in the former president of the united states and what his gains and losses were and whether or not he was -- while he was president. all of that stuff i think is most important is a release of information so the american public can make up their own mind based on the truth. >> you said something in there that i don't want a men's audience to these side of him that is that now that the democrats have control of the senate, full control of the senate, they have the opportunity, and i think it's an important one, particularly given so much more it's coming out still, to pick up this investigation even though it may be shut down in the house and i think it's something that
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you put a pendant folks to watch over there early parts of this new congress. to see exactly what the senate might do in that regard. i want to follow up with you on the new york times reporting which notes that trump's storage room was located just feet away from the estates pool and outdoor patio area where a large scale -- you would have large-scale gatherings and a lot of people hanging up there. so now we know mar-a-lago doesn't exactly have the most secure vetting process for many guests. we've learned that overtime. talk to us about how big of a deal and a security risk this is? because some people might say, since you know it's documents -- what if they're having a pool party next door? you put your finger on it exactly, michael. let's say there is an indictment of the former president for his handling or mishandling of classified documents.
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and let's be, clear the reason we have laws and rules that govern the handling of these documents is to remove as much discretion, personal individual discretion from the handling as possible. and to minimize the possibility of accidental exposure of these documents. it is possible, however, if such a case where to go to a jury, the jury might say in a sort of jury nullification way, it might say but what's the big deal? they were held in a secure storage facility on the mar-a-lago estate. what the new york times reporting does here and subsequent pictures that have come out of those open doors during those large events and large parties. it's taken that argument away. it's become very clear that along with umbrellas and folding chairs and such these documents were not given any more security than other types of casual things that relying around the estate. it does take away a potential
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defense that there was an equivalent of a secure facility at mar-a-lago. >> matthew, let me get your take on this as well. the particularly of fbi agents searching mar-a-lago, they're ending up seizing these documents including ones labeled as top secret from that area. which was also used to store cleaning supplies and beach towels and umbrellas. it's one thing i think for trump to take these documents. but then storing our nation's top secret list of the groups that beach balls. it begs [inaudible] or am i having too much hot chocolate? >> the best scenario was next to brooms and these balls. there was no telling whatever -- whatever goes on. there's no telling what happens there. i think this is such a reflection of donald trump. this is such a -- an underlying thing. donald trump has never had an
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interest in anything but that benefits donald trump. and this demonstrates he didn't care about national security concerns, he didn't care about whether they were docked classified document was supposed to be done and kept in a safe way or not to be taken away. he didn't care. he wanted to make sure he kept the love letter from kim jong-un so you could show people here's the love letter. all these things are fundamentally about him, the other thing i would ask people to get is, it shouldn't be any surprise the way donald trump has -- treats people. whether it's former spouses, whether it's former employees. all of those people, he doesn't cheat well. he doesn't treat in a trustworthy manner. so if he treats people that way. why would he treated a classified document where he doesn't care about in any other way other than for his own personal gain? >> you put it well, my friend. carol lam and dowd, thank you very much. coming up next, pennsylvania
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pennsylvania state legislature next year? it seems like a fairly simple question. but somehow more than a month after the midterms, there isn't a clear answer. here's the predicament, i'm gonna need you all to follow me closely here. democrats want to majority of seats in the house for the first-time and years but the margin was razor-thin, 100 to 201 decided by fewer than 65 votes in a race of the philadelphia suburbs. and in terms more tenuous because one of the victorious democrats was dead. and he died too late in the election [inaudible] to be removed from the ballot. what's more [inaudible]
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who at the same time one seeds to higher office have since resigned. further complicating matters. and republicans of course are seizing on those complications. arguing that democrats lack in mandate to control the state house. and filed a lawsuit to block the trio special elections that were all but certainly reconfirm democratic control of this chamber. yeah, it's a mess. and it's indicative of republicans new strategy using arcane and sometimes unfair rules to seize power. joining me now is pennsylvania state representative and house democratic leader joanna mcclinton. i should note that representative mcclintock has been sworn in as house majority leader despite all the chaos. representative, welcome. here's the deal, who currently controls the state house? >> as they stay in halle today,
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stay tuned. to be determined. you laid it out clearly. but us here in pennsylvania, on -- they decide in 102 distress that democrats to take their voices, their values, and their agenda items to the state capital. but of course, we have some precarious circumstances. >> you are so kind. precarious. so what's your path forward? here seriously, it is a mess. republicans are looking to take advantage of the complications in the mess. how do you see this playing out? >> the first thing i want everyone to know is i started last week with a meeting with the republican leader with their hopes that we could start this razor-thin majority, new session in january with power sharing agreements, with ways that we can work together on the rules because we don't want bills and committees, we want to work together.
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we are very cognizant of our reality even if we have a one seat majority. unfortunately we weren't able to negotiate an agreement so we have to move quickly. and moving quickly from me meant there was a vacancy and there had to be a -- special election issue. that can only happen when someone is sworn in to be the acting interim officer. i got sworn into because my caucus won in 102 districts, i was the acting interim presiding officer. i'm hopeful that as the court decides there is gonna be the first meeting in the court -- commonwealth court in pennsylvania next wednesday, i'm hopeful they will say go ahead and will hold all the elections on february the 7th so that voters can make sure that their voices are heard and we can have a full complement in harrisburg sooner rather than later. >> i want to get your take on my analysis of how republicans and democrats approach moments like this. where democrats are in the
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minority. they often ask how do we convince the majority to pass acts? when republicans are in the minority, they ask how do we use the rules of the majority against the majority? how do you see this moment? >> is this a moment where you have -- whether you're in the majority or the majority, a chance to politically engage in a way that you make the rules work for you and you take advantage of the opportunity and push back on this silliness that you don't have a mandate when the seats are that close. that's still -- doesn't address the fact that you will have more seats. how do you see that? >> that's correct. we have been told clearly, when i started in the house, there were 121 republicans and 82 democrats. at that time, they can say they
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had a mandate from voters with a certain agenda. we are not able to say that we have a mandate except to say they rejected their extremism. their election denialism. that they demonstrated since 2020. that was rejected. and yes, it was only 65 votes in the last race. so we've got to get grown-ups. here we have to get -- back in january. we want to do the peoples work, we want to figure out how we can work together to get good bills over to the senate. i'm so very -- josh appear and lieutenant governor austin davis, we have serious work to. do we cannot simply say that they now have a mirage of the majority but it is vastly going to fade. it's gonna vastly fade as long as we get the special elections. >> later mcclinton, i want to broaden that out to you just a little bit more and ask you from a national perspective, state by state if you will, do you think the democrats have a better sense of taking the
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opportunities that lie in front of them as state legislatures a little bit more seriously? because to me that's always been the play. that's how you begin to really reshape the political landscape. it is not top down, it's not winning the presidency, it's not winning the senate or the house. it's really how you grow it up from the state legislative side. how do you see it and how should democrats see it nationally? >> nationally, everybody is always very excited about washington, d.c.. as we say in my community, no shade. but in state capitals, we get to determine what the minimum wages, we get to protect voting rights, we get to make sure that those who care about toys are gonna be able to have access to all health care options to everybody who wants to access them. all the women in our communities. harrisburg, our state capital like so many others, colorado, oregon, nevada, there are lots of states now where they're democrats who have super
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majorities. i'm looking for recognizing that we flipped one chamber to work across the aisle in the senate, to work across the aisle in the house, and to get the best idea on bench appears desks. >> i applaud the effort and we will stay tuned to the chaos i appreciate you. pennsylvania state representative joe and clinton, thank you very much. ahead, putting a human face on economic inequality. onomic inequality. meet leon the third... leon the second... and leon... the first of them all. three generations, who all bank differently with chase.
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>> a legacy of grit and grace. >> that's the trailer for the new documentary written grayson joining me now is eric harris the cocreator and senior producer of that documentary. he's the communications director of the house select committee of economic disparity, fairness, and growth. i like it. i love this approach. what drove the committee to present its findings like this? >> thank you for having me on, michael. for the most part, congressional hearings committee reports are bad as boring and dense as the days -- so that's why we try to do things differently on the select committee on economic disparity on fairness and growth. our chairman and himes said that you can engage people on an intellectual level. but to help move them and shake -- you have to touch their hearts. and that's telling stories of dignity, resolve, and ambition. and that's what we did right here, michael. we made a first of its kind documentary that tells the story of hardworking families
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to help them achieve their version of the american dream. >> the select committee found that 90% of children -- people born after 1980, middle nails, only 50% are likely to out-earn their parents. can congress somehow address this downward social mobility and if so, how do they begin to do that? >> i think congress can play a robust role here. i think the first part is recognizing that economic disparity doesn't care if you voted for president trump or president biden. it doesn't discriminate based on your political philosophies where you live. it affects all of. us it just across age, race, gender, zip code. and it can tear at the very fabric of our democracy and society. so the first step for congress is recognizing that this is an issue that transcends politics and to truly do this the right way we need to listen to americans where they live all across this country. that means top into vigils and rural communities. suburban exurbs, urban centers.
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those who are in the midwest, those who are in the southwest. congress does a lot of talking and i think solving economic disparity means doing a lot more listening this time. >> the select committee ranking member congressman brian steele said the panel embraced ideas from both political parties to create this documentary. talk to us a little bit about how the committee accomplished that in the face of all of the acrimony that's on the hill and how did it contribute to the creation of this particular film? >> that's a great question. people really don't want more of the same here in washington. the acrimony, the caustic atmosphere, the one up man ship. people really want congress to listen. and to work together. and we're doing a good job in this committee. in a bipartisan effort, we travel to places like ohio, seattle, washington, texas, and we listen to the pressing
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challenges of economic communities. and we don't care if we were talking to democrats or republicans. we knew we were talking to americans who truly want to have a space in this 21st century economy. so really, i think the core to our work here on the committee is ensuring that both republicans and democrats can take their collective issues and ideas, find out what works within them and create a foundation for that next congress to work on. michael roan leap out two weeks away from this committee no longer existing so it's really up to the next congress 18th session to put up their political partisanship and blinders aside to truly work for better issue here and that's making sure that every single american has access to this economy. >> i think in a lot of ways that's why this is such an innovative way to get the country's a tension and to focus congress a little bit, you and the progress says interviewed 150 people across the country. but settle on three. on issues on time and things like that. but what are you specifically
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looking for and highlighting this documentary that these three families brought to this messaging? >> we interviewed almost 150 different families for this project. and we did in such a -- ethnic and racial diversity. we wanted it diverse in terms of where individuals lived, we wanted diversity in terms of the financial charges they lived -- we hope those who watch this home are left with a profound sense of empathy. this is what the films about. we hope that when they meet the families in our movie, they feel warmth and just a little less alone in the country that many people find cold in this very caustic political climate. but what we found out in interviewing all of these families is that americans have stories to tell. no matter how hard the challenges they face, no matter how emotional the hardship was. everybody wanted to have their voices elevated and amplified in a way with their dignity was center stage. and their fight for the
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american people dream was really upping uplifted. i hope we did that with this film. >> eric, i think you're well on your way in doing that in a very appreciate the fact that you are focusing attention on that american dream and helping americans express their dream as much as they can. thank you very much. it's such a real pleasure to have you be a part of the conversation tonight. very much appreciate it, eric. after the break, we are visiting the sandy hook mass shooting ten years later. shooting ten years later yawning] let's get you home for the holidays. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ (fisher investments) it's easy to think that all money managers ♪♪ are pretty much the same, but at fisher investments we're clearly different.
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since the devastating shooting at sandy hook elementary school that rocked the town of newtown, connecticut. and the entire nation. 26 people, 20, children and six school staffers were murdered that day. we spoke this week with three survivors of the massacre, to students, and the teacher who saved their lives. >> caitlin what about this on her former students a lauren milligram and julia have a bond that's hard to put inwards. >> has everything doing? you're so big! >> julia 16 and laura is 17. juniors in high school now. but caitlin can still picture them at the start of first grade. but i remember about julia's that she always had a smile on her face. and she was very vibrations and full of life. lauren was very precocious. she took school very seriously. >> ten years, ago they survived the unthinkable.
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she cramped her students into a tiny bathroom at the back of the bat classroom. >> i did what any teacher would, do and i can only think whoever is up there who helped us get into the bathroom on the day. cause if you seen it, you wouldn't think that 16 people could fit inside of it. >> i remember a lot from that day. i remember when the noses started. i remember holding everyone and holding all my classmates. >> i pretty much the only thing i think about is she saved my life. >> do you remember anything she said, julia? >> one thing she said is she loved us. going back, thinking about it, i think that's the first thing we think about. >> they are six. and i'm thinking that they're about to die. and i want them to know how loved they are. i couldn't fathom in my 29 year old mind that this is it for them. >> you wanted one of the last things they heard potentially to be out of. you >> i needed to be. >> eventually, a swat team
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opened the door and let them to safety. >> thank it for we're in for her quick thinking, i wouldn't be here today. or neither would, julia or any of my other classmates. i'm so thankful. >> that's the bond. >> she's like my second mom. >> in the months afterward, the classroom received gifts from all over the country and caitlin saw a way to teach. >> i said, why did somebody do this for us. and they raise their hands and they said, someone wanted us to be happy, and it's our job. now and i said, we should probably help someone. >> her students sent a smuggler to know the, school than kids and created classes for classes encouraging other classrooms to do kindness projects. they took the lesson to heart, both volunteered and helping animals. she now has dreams of being a mechanic, lauren wants to be a school superintendent. >> it strikes me that is one of the most horrible days in the
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history of this country and people were lost and it shipped to you are. all these things are true >> for me, the remembrances every second of every minute, every hour, and that is a truth. so, yes, here we are a ten. but that's not even than yesterday, or the day before that. you live with it. you move forward in your life. clearly, these two girls have my forte. but you never [inaudible] its holy part of you. and that's okay. law kay. la >> the growing challenge to kristen sinema's election bed. and free speech for

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