a very good day to all of you. from msnbc world quarters here in new york walker on alex witt reports. breaking news this hour, just moments ago the nail-biting world cup final ending with argentina victorious beating france and penalty. kicks that came and it 33 in regulation argentina prevailed in the penalty kick stage. argentinian superstar, lionel

messi winning his first ever world cup championship. the countries euphoria spilling out onto the streets in the capital buenos aires. as i mentioned, the game going to penalty kicks with argentina beating france 4 to 3 on that front. we will have more on that breaking news and a live report later on for. you pretty much guarantee the scene will not change -- stay tuned for that. meantime, we have more breaking news. the january six committee will hear first -- before releasing its final report on wednesday on its investigation on to the attack on the capitol. this weekend, the panel is meeting at members actively considered possible criminal referrals for former president donald trump, and his allies. a bit earlier today, committee member adam schiff gave his view on whether the former president should face accountability. >> i think the president has violated multiple criminal laws. you have to be treated like any other american that breaks the

law, you have to be prosecuted. >> charges being considered by the former president include insurrection, obstruction, as well conspiracy. last hour former impeachment manager and trump's second trial, madeleine dean, told me the importance of the committee's decision and what it will mean. >> we have to get this right. we have to hold the former president of the united states to account. every single person, whether they are members of congress, or lawyers, or whomever, to account. because no one can be above the law, especially when you are talking about trying to, literally, topple our government. >> heading to more breaking news, border states bracing for the end of title 42 this week. the core era policy that allowed u.s. to expel migrants from the southern border. today the mayor of el paso texas declared a state of emergency. the biden administration this morning expressing confidence about its ability to secure the border. >> the administration has been preparing for months prove owed

move title 42. people have to remember, this does not mean that our borders will suddenly be opened. what we need, we need republicans and democrats in congress, together, to make sure that we have the funding in place to make sure that the resources are available. >> north korea has test fired a pair of ballistic missiles into the waters off its east coast with potential range of striking japan. to maintenance as a first weapons test in a month. it comes just days after north korea claimed to have performed a key test it needed to build a more mobile, powerful, intercontinental missile designed to strike the u.s. mainland. let's go now to nbc's aly rafael on capitol hill. the january six committee is preparing for tomorrow's final hearing. welcome, ali. are you hearing any leanings, any inclination on how community -- will vote on potential criminal referrals tomorrow? >> alex, we know members have a

meeting throughout the weekend, still deciding on whether to issue those criminal referrals to the justice department adam schiff one of the committee members one of four committee members on this subcommittee within this january six committee tasked with figuring out whether these referrals could and should be made. he was asked on cnn earlier this morning whether he thinks there is enough evidence to make these referrals. he did not mince where we giving his response. take a listen. >> i think that the evidence is there that donald trump committed criminal offenses in connection with his efforts to overturn the election. as a former prosecutor, i think there is sufficient evidence to charge the president. >> you're gonna go with conviction now? >> i don't know what the justice department has. i do know what is in the public record. evidence seems pretty plain to me. i would want to see the full body of evidence if i were in the prosecutor she used to make a decision. >> schiff would not say which

exact referrals would be taken up, or how exactly he would vote. he did confirm on cnn that there would be a vote on these referrals, as well as a vote to adopt that final report of the committee's findings and recommendations. sources say those potential charges as you mentioned at the top there would be for insurrection, obstructing an official proceeding of congress, and conspiracy to defraud the federal government. alex, schiff also took somewhat of a veiled swipe at the justice department in that interview. he said trump's political relevance may have impacted the doj's own probes into the president. with all the evidence available even just to the public, it should not be taking the doj this long, almost two years, after the attack on the capitol to move on this. some pressure on the doj by schiff the day before the committee may be making these unprecedented decisions. of course, we know the doj is

eventually going to have to make a decision if these referrals are made whether to move on them. it is technically something we know they don't have to do. >> it definitely reflects the very important few days ahead of us. thank you so much allie raffa. let's bring in danny solace msnbc and -- hates brown, columnist and editor for msnbc daily. mark leibovitz, nbc political contributor, staff writer for the atlantic, and author of the new book, thank you for your servitude. donald trump's washington and the price of submission. guys, good to see you all here. danny, you. first on a scale of 1 to 10, ten being enormous way in mundane practically none, how much influence might these criminal referrals to the doj have? criminalif you are the doj, youe going to say 0.0. that is a political answer. it has to be. ? ultimately, doj is going to say, i can almost tell you what mayor garland is gonna say at the podium, the doj undertakes its own independent

investigation. they me happy to receive a grocery bag full of evidence from the january six committee and look at it. all timidly, a referral itself is something doj will essentially disregard. or at least say they will disregard. they must make their decision to prosecute independently using the evidence i have already amassed on their own. we may not even know about it. the doj does not make public its investigations. however even if some of the information that the january six committee has unearthed is helpful to doj they will take it i'm sure they might use it it will be not -- the referral not be positive in the ultimate decision by the doj. that will be truly independent. at least, again, that is what they will tell. us >> basically just follow the evidence as they see. that is a legal perspective. what about politically, hayes? again on a scale of 1 to 10. tending a lot, one being a little, how much political way to these referrals carry? >> i would give a strong seven

at this point. i feel like this is something it would be shocking at this point in the january six committee went through all of the evidence they've gathered so far -- all the years that they've put forward and came to the conclusion that no, we don't think the doj should be charging the president and his allies with crimes related to january 6th. it would be politically stunning for the democrats. if you are a republican you are bracing for this. you are ready and waiting for the fact that there will be referrals that you have to be asked about. you have to try to explain away. you will have to try to spin. i think the fact that these won't be a surprise, that sort of dulls the impact, slightly. the fact that everyone is ready and waiting for what is, at this point, presumed to be the outcome. it'll be interesting to see the full list of who is a for criminal referral. we keep talking about former president trump but there were many people in the room with him during that time.

i will be curious to see what special counsel jack smith, who is now running the investigation on january 6th and mar-a-lago does with this. how quickly he may move on. it >> won on a percent. mark, you have heard politically from here to esteemed colleagues here. seven, much greater than the actual legal way, got a zero, can you measure the risks of a democratic house sending criminal referrals for a former opposition party president to the doj? >> i would say, this actually complicates things food to you too -- the impact on the power of the january 6th committee have been in presentation. video codification. the witnesses. it is all been powerful every step of the way. i think a referral, itself, -- you know, i don't think it moves a lot of people or public opinion wise it probably won't at the justice department.

i think it is probably gonna be more weighty about the referrals is what the actual final presentation is by the january 6th commission in the coming days. i also think, one thing that adam schiff said earlier, that is important is we don't know what the justice department has. if the justice department doesn't have anything beyond what is already in the public record it's going to look not only redundant but also as if they were working as a political arm of something that has been very powerful in the public domain. it is a very tricky calculus. in fact i'm certain because i've talked to people in the justice department about this. it is a complicating factor. -- i think it puts the onus on them to try to make it seem like they are not affected by it at all. which is complicated. >> another question for hayes, but 16 committee hearings they might have been considered cathartic, ray? america community confronting one of its ugliest days. this other sense that this last

committee act may inspire more polarization. what is your take on that? >> i think the polarization is already there. one thing it is hard to parse out here is the fact that these crimes we were talking about were political in nature. there is no separating the politics from the criminal activity in this case. well maybe if he was not a political figure these won't be crimes. there is no saying that there is no political connection, no political outcome that was being affected by the actions taking up to january six. the idea that oh, it could be spun away as just politics is paul politically tough when you have a series of events that would not have happened without the impetus of the former president. you have a series of events that were in favor of keeping that president in office despite losing an election. the idea that you could, somehow, make this into a political, completely neutral

investigation is a fault hood. i think that is something that should be leaned into at this point. i understand it could set a bad precedent. he is not the position party leader who is being sent for criminal referrals to the department justice but i think it matters that the evidence is there. they have shown their work is something that will make it harder for it to be spun around and used against democrats in the future. >> let's move on and asked danny about the new york times animation. this interact we have a mar-a-lago, the proximity of the general public or members to those classified documents that were stored there. might the doj find it helpful in its case against the former president? this graphic illustration? >> sure, doj loves demonstrative exhibits. the new york times has gone and created one for that they can use pretty handily. it well lays out the grounds, i don't know that the public has ever really gotten a good view of what the ground like at

mar-a-lago. what is where. where trump's offices located. the where the residence is located. all of these things are highlighted in comparison or relation to the documents -- that were classified, should not have been removed from the white house. this is a really helpful demonstrative type of exhibit. in just the last two years we have seen such amazing advances in using these types of exhibits in trials. in general, the january six committee has used a lot of technology. look, the studies show, whether it is jurors are people out of presentation, people respond to images. they respond to things like this more than a powerpoint with bullets and writing on. this is a very effective technique. it is something the doj will certainly look at. maybe even adopt should they decide to bring charges. >> okay, let me ask you, hayes, about something we all were kind of forced to look at when it comes to donald trump's and f t sales.

you wrote about it saying he is getting back to his roots, grifting. it may be drifting, but is it working? >> unfortunately, yes. apparently these horrific monstrosities, these crimes against our, sold out. the fact that there apparently was a market for $99 a pop on these poorly done, looks like the worst version of the a.i.r. trends that are going around -- in a market there is no resale value for. i think this is a grift that is very much on par with trump's earlier work. i think this is a look at what trump would've been doing anyway if he had never become president. this is the sort of licensing scheme that he was famous for, giving getting paid for the right to use his name an image in order to get basic easy profits. i am completely on supplies at this turn of events. that this is the way the trump

decided to go. i am disappointed it is working, apparently. i am very curious to know who is buying these and what the profit share is in this agreement that was signed? and, why? why would you want this? i just don't get it i don't think any of us have an answer to that question as it is rhetorically this might be -- posed. let me ask you, mark. i don't know if you have an answer with this one. in what world would a former president, now presidential candidate, push these absurd, cartoonish images still remain a viable presidential candidate? where would that not just be a laughing matter? >> i okay, we have all mean, okay, been laughing. we have all been laughing. a lot of people on a lot of people on cable news, cable news, like steve steve mannon -- bannon -- >> his supporters have been laughing! saying, bad idea. >> yes but you know what? we've been laughing at donald trump for hiring paid actors in

2015 to watch him come down the elevator and say mexicans are sending rapists in. the paradigm of people laughing it in, all this out in the marketplace. in this case, the people buying these entities a selling out within a few hours is familiar it gets to the disconnect that he has been able to leverage not only to the white house but his career and his political career. it has been interlocked with his grift, his financial empire and so forth. as we all know. anytime there is widespread laughter, ridicule, and hand-wringing around who look how low donald trump astute, i always look at -- he is not talking to us. he actually has a very loyal following that has proven again and again, if you look at who is buying these, who has been very loyal to him. i think that is the prologue, potentially, on how he might run a presidential race on a lot of people giving him a lot of money, a lot of time, showing up at his rallies.

i think this -- we laugh too much at him earlier. okay. point well taken. it's actually very serious when you put it like that. i appreciate you all. danny, hayes, mark, good to see you. well, it might be a little out, but we're going to try to get to megan fitzgerald as we talk about the breaking news right now in the world cup final. argentina just defeated france 4 to 2 in a penalty shootout after 4 to 3 after -- regulation time ended in a 3 to 3 draw. we're going to get that straight. 3 to 3 drawn and they beat them in the penalty shootout for to do. sorry about that. my bad. let's go to megan fitzgerald. if we can hear her in doha, which -- a big smile there. it has to reflect the reaction for half of the crowd. >> alex, this was such an incredible game. i think people are trying to figure out what is going on. this game was just incredible. it's being called. the -- [inaudible]

they had two goals. one of them from the penalty kick -- it came back, fired up in the second. enough 80 minutes into this, kylian mbappé -- [inaudible] argentina hit back in the second half. [inaudible] argentina pulled it off. for lionel messi -- the first and last time. he says this is his last world cup that he will be playing in. argentina made history as the first non-european team to win the world cup in 20 years. this is a huge win. fans are so excited. [inaudible] >> okay, megan fitzgerald.

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border states are on high alert in preparation for the end of title 42, a pandemic era policy which allow the u.s. to turn away migrants. today, texas governor greg abbott sent a strong warning about the consequences of letting the law expire on wednesday. >> if the courts don't

intervene and put a halt to the removal of title 42, it's going to be total chaos. whether it's covid or some other issue, when you have people coming off the globe without knowing at all what their health status is, that almost by definition is a public health risk. there is every reason to keep that in place. >> we are joined from wilmington, delaware. the president is spending his weekend there. that's why you are there, gary. the end of title 42, it is renewing a national conversation about immigration. what are we hearing from lawmakers? >> yeah, alex. stop me if you've heard this before, but politicians in washington are not on the same page or. the left says the right doesn't have a plan. the right says the left doesn't have a plan. the migrants that are going to be claiming asylum at the southern border know that it is going to get a whole lot easier if title 42 is lifted on wednesday. by definition, it will be. the biden administration is aware of that. they have been sending down

border patrol agents to the southern border to really shore up the southern border they are by that count. they are also adding process centers to the southern border. politicians on the sunday show this morning on both sides of the aisle said there is really no solid plan. >> this is the biggest frustration for all of the republican rhetoric about chaos at the border, open borders, et cetera. number one, they have yet to come forward with a plan of how to better handle this scenario. number two, they haven't been willing to commit the additional resources that agencies say they need to handle this big influx. >> we know what to do. we saw it work under the trump administration. it is common sense. you to have a border infrastructure. by the way, that's bipartisan. henry cuellar and i have the ability to build roads, build a wall. we have to do that. we have to have the policies which will actually work. what those policies have to be our turn away and detain, not apprehend and release.

>> states have taken matters into their own hands here. arizona and texas have been busing migrants, thousands and thousands of migrants, extensively since april. more than 16,000 from -- chicago, philadelphia, new york city, and washington, d.c.. the texas governor says that is only going to continue. alex? >> cary grant bach williamsburg, thank you. we have ted lieu joining us now. he was also just elected vice chair of the house democratic caucus for which i sent my applause and congratulations. do you have any concerns about what lifting title 42 this week could mean for the border? is there anything congress can do this week to help the administration handle the influx of migrants that is expected? >> thank you, alex, for your question. you know who would try to shut down the southern border? richard nixon over 50 years

ago. that was operation intercept. every president since then, democratic or republican party, has had problems at the southern border. this is an issue that has been recurring for over four decades. it's over half a century old. democrats do have a plan to fix it. it's called comprehensive immigration reform. republicans are holding that up. congressman sanchez has a terrific bill. we should implement that bill. in the short term, we should provide the resources they need to address the southern border. this is an issue that 80s ongoing. if we want to solve it, we need comprehensive immigration reform. >> i should add that i have your colleagues on earlier. she said the first thing to address the humanitarian issue at the border. i presume you agree with that as well. >> yes. i also noted that under the obama administration, they implemented the family case management program. they kept families together. they released them. there is a 99% effectiveness

rate, meaning most of them are coming back for all the immigration proceedings. >> from there, we turn to the january six committee ahead of the final public hearing. wednesday is the release of the -- this panel is considering sending the doj on three possible charges. you were an impeachment manager. or these claims substantiated? >> let me say it is so sad that you have to identify which impeachment because our former president was just that bad. it was clear to me during the second impeachment proceedings that donald trump asked people to show up on a very specific date. why didn't you pick january 5th or january 7th? he needed to pick the date that congress was going to certify his loss.

that was january 6th. he got the people there and sent them to the capitol further purpose of obstructing that illegitimate governor an activity of certifying his loss. that is a federal crime. whether or not there is evidence to show that is something that january six committee members are going to have to look into. they have accessed evidence i don't have. i trust whatever it is that they do. >> what about the impact that any criminal referral from the committee could have on the doj? do you think that it could move the needle at all for special counsel jack smith investigation and any sort of meaningful way? >> i think they might have some frustration at the department of justice. it's very clear when you read the report that donald trump committed multiple acts of obstruction of justice. the department of justice did nothing. they could not have prosecuted him. it's very clear that donald trump engaged in campaign

finance reform. how do we know that? his coconspirator michael cohen went to prison for the exact same crime that they failed to charge donald trump for. there's all this built up frustration. i think one of the goals here is to let the organizers know, a, you should not treat donald trump differently. you need to apply the law to him just like every other american. >> donald trump is not acting any differently when it comes to social media. he's been lashing out today against the committee on his platform. one of his posts from this morning says, quote, republicans and patriots all over the land must stand strong and united against the sum of thugs and scoundrels of the committee. that is one of his charming nicknames. that being said, i'm curious about your reaction. as we see this kind of language coming from the phone president, as it raised a question of whether political risks come with a criminal referral? are you concerned at all about political retaliation or any

kind of violence when republican party take over control of the house? there could be surges of unrest in the country if nothing happens. people feel like no one is being held accountable. >> let's first say that donald trump's social media posts are repetitive and boring. he just sort of says the same thing over and over again. he is losing support within our country. people find him really boring now. in terms of possible violence, republicans can reduce the -- they simply say one sentence. i urge all republican leaders in the house to say that the election was not stolen. they would only say that. that would reduce the risk of political violence. >> i actually think you're right. that would do something right there. let me ask you about you being one of the 40 original cosponsors on the new bill. it's been introduced by david cicilline. this would bar donald trump

from holding federal office under the 14th amendment. it says that no one who previously took an oath to support the constitution and engaged in insurrection or rebellion shall hold any office. at this point, as republicans prepared to take control of the house, is this seen as more symbolic of a vote or could this actually pass and get to the president's desk? >> i support the legislation because it basically puts into law what the constitution already had. it helps enact the actual works of the constitution. i think there's a chance that republicans -- the one thing they can't stand as a loser. not only did he lose, all his candidates said he has supported it for federal office. they lost in the senate races. a lot of his ideas are becoming a loser ideas such as election denialism. i could see republicans trying

to support it. they don't want him to run because he is causing them to lose again. >> never one to mince words. that's what we bring you back all the time. my friend ted lieu from los angeles. thank you. coming up next, what you didn't know about the country's christmas tree shortage and how it all has to do is something that happened in 2008. plus, saying goodbye to the big cat known in southern california as pete 22. licafornia as pete 22. licafornia as pete 22. you did it, you did it, you did it... ♪ good news! a new clinical study showed that centrum silver supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. moderate-to-severe eczema. it doesn't care if you have a date, a day off, or a double shift. make your move and get out in front of eczema with steroid-free cibinqo. not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments. and it's proven to help provide clearer skin and relieve itch fast.

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>> this morning, p-22 was compassionately euthanized. it was the right thing to do. >> stoic scientists and wildlife biologists could not hold back there two years, announcing that l.a.'s most famous and most beloved mountain lion p-22 was humanely euthanized saturday morning. >> p-22 it is a story of survival, coexistence, what is possible. it will break anyone down. >> miguel discovered p-22 ten years ago when the adolescent cat paid the seemingly impossible trick to griffith park from the santa monica mountains, crossing to freeways, the 405, and the 101. for ten years, he escaped being hit by a car, but when he was captured for evaluation earlier this month, wildlife biologists realized his luck had run out. >> even though he lasted ten years, he was done in because -- >> they were very hopeful. it looked like sanctuary was an option. as these tests started coming back, he was hit by a car. those injuries were pretty

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the detroit institute of art. 100 years after it became the first american museum to purchase one of his paintings, the museum is celebrating the milestone with a wide raging exhibition which tracks the dutch artists rise from near obscurity to an dreamed of celebrity. joining me now is salvador, the director president and ceo of the detroit institute of the arts. it's good to see you. we're going to get to the painting in just a moment. detroit has a long-standing relationship with vincent van gogh. they bought one of his paintings back in 1922. he was only beginning to develop. talk about that paintings subjects. how much did the dia pay for it? what do you think the museum found so special about it? >> absolutely. it was in 1922. the museum acquired this painting in new york. we were the first museum to buy

that. we paid $4,200 and we were just, yeah, it was incredible. he was a in paris. he -- >> there it is right there. that's beautiful. he died at the age of 37, having being sold only the -- how did he rise from an unknown artist to become one of the most popular and celebrated artists in the world? what do you think van gogh holds for are to appeal for americans? >> absolutely. i think the -- we brought a painting. it was really the film and history. it was hollywood. it was dedicated to the life of

van gogh. that made him an icon in the world. at the beginning of that, there is the museum. i think that the were -- everyone who is in the street. he is an artist who connects with nature. he was self taught. quite amazing. >> i think you have an entire room dedicated to -- i think it was kirk douglas who played him in that film. give me the title. it might be obvious. describe it for us. >> this is van gogh's chair. he painted it in 1888. it comes from the national our gallery than london. it shows his chair. [inaudible]

you can see his name. inside the box, there is an iranian. this is a symbolic painting. it doesn't show -- it looks like a self portrait. he is not there. he is, like in america, so famous. he never came to the united states. >> that's true. give me a sense of how popular this exhibit has been for the dia. how many folks have come through? >> we already had 110,000 people coming through for the show. they came from as far as tasmania in australia. people want to see the exhibition. they say it is an excellent. is magnificent. it's better than the van gogh museum. it's amazing. >> that's wonderful. we extend our applause to you and all of those who work so hard to get there. thank you so much, salvador. we appreciate your time. again, the exhibit for all of you, van gogh in america, runs of the destroyed institute of the arts through january 22nd. that does it for me on this edition of alex witt reports.

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