i dated high che. >> oh man, we're going to miss her. she leaves after 11 seasons, the latest veteran cast member say goodbye. that wraps it up for me, everybody. i will be back here tuesday and wednesday right here on msnbc at 11 am. i will see you then. greetings, you are watching simone. just 21 hours to go until the january six committee's decision on criminal referrals. and it could include an unprecedented moment, a recommendation to former u.s. president be criminally charged. we have the latest on the panel, and who else could be caught up in referrals? the house majority will join me with what he is hearing from the hill, and who he thinks should be held accountable. and i will ask congressman

david cicilline about the legislation he introduced to barr trump from holding federal office again. and later, we are putting the spotlight on actor, lawrence chester. yes, a man considered one of the six eastman alive is coming to my green table, all to dish on his lip-limited series. i am simone sanderson and i have something to say. by this very time tomorrow, we will have some long awaited answers from the january 6th committee about their investigation of the insurrection at the u.s. capitol. the committee is gearing up for its final committee meeting on monday, although they will summarize their findings and vote and whether they will refer former president donald trump and or his allies to the

justice department for criminal charges. nbc news reports that while a final decision on referrals against trump has yet to be made, they are considering at least three charges. insurrection, obstruction of an official proceeding of congress, and conspiracy. congressman a committee member adam schiff says on cnn this morning that he believes the former president has earned criminal charges. take a listen. >> i think that the evidence is there that donald trump committed criminal offenses in connection with his efforts to overturn the election. and doing it as a former prosecutor, i think there is sufficient evidence to charge the president. >> to be very clear, a criminal referral against a former president of united states of america would be the first in u.s. history. and other referrals, they may not be just to the justice department. committee chair says that members are looking at five or six types of other referrals, which could be sent to the bar

association and more. this is all in an effort to address a threat to democracy so severe that it mobilized thousands of extremists to launch an attempt of a violent coup. former president donald trump urged the rioters to descend on the capitol in the first place, but he made a no longer be in office. the danger for our democracy is still very much alive. welcome, welcome to you, sir. let's start where i ended, with the january six committee. based on all of the evidence that i've laid out so far, the case they presented, do you believe that the charges they are considering, that they are sufficient. >> i do believe that. thank you so much for having me.

way back in 2018, president trump was doing things without regard to the constitution and he had no plans to leave office. i said that on another network in january of 2018, and a lot of people chastised me for having said that. i saw the pattern developing, and i could tell that this man was setting things up. much as i read in history. so none of this surprises me, i think it's there for anybody to see. he has violated the constitution, he is broken a criminal law. not just since he's been in office, but since he was in office, he was doing the same thing.

you can look at what he will do when he or she gets it done. i am an agreement with you, sir. the question is what will the justice department do? that remains to be seen. tomorrow is their last public hearing, we are expecting a report this week. will house leadership receive a briefing from the committee chair about what is to be expected on monday? and who else would you like to see held accountable, in addition to the former president we? >> i have no idea who the committee will be meeting with. i suspect that the ongoing communications between the co-chairs we and the eua vice chair with, and the speaker of the house.

she needs to be justly informed of all of this. so i suspect there is some discussions taking place. however, the second part of your question is very clear to me. giuliani needs to be called to justice. i think that we have seen a solution involving -- i think that some of the attorneys involved in this stuff with giuliani need to be brought to justice. it's very clear. these people are doing things that need to be -- that's why you see all of these lawsuits involving the election machines, because they just made stuff up. >> they are lying. so a lot of these lies, axios is reporting that there is a shadow group of republicans,

and they are preparing to rebut the report with a report of their own. they say that they will highlight security failures that other failures, rather than donald trump. what is your response to this news, sir? >> well, i think that the american public spoke pretty loudly last november 8th. and i think that they are kidding themselves if they don't think that the republic sees through their kind of foolishness. they saw trump out there, again people on. they saw what took place. they saw the leadership being put -- these people were calling for a pinch, for the vice president to be hanged. and so nobody can substitute

this foolishness for the fact that people have seen for themselves. >> absolutely. congressman, thank you very much for your time, sir. and if i don't see it before the next weekend, we have a happy holidays. thanks so much. >> same to you as well, thank you. >> i don't want to bring in democratic congressman david cicilline of rhode island. welcome to you, sir. we are going to keep this conversation going that i was just having with the wig. you were actually one of the managers and former president donald trump's second impeachment. this was obviously months before the january 6th committee even existed. after seeing the members make their case, how has your view on donald trump's role in the insurrection, and even the ongoing threat to our democracy evolved? for has it a vault? thank i think you're on mute, sir.

well, i can hear you now, there we go. >> i think it was very clear from the evidence that was presented during the second impeachment trial that donald trump incited violent insurrection against the government of united states. the evidence was overwhelming then, 57 senators found him guilty of that offense. i think that the work the january 6th committee has done has been extraordinary, and we now know that there was a sophisticated plan developed and executed to keep donald trump in office, despite the fact that he lost the election fair and square. and this was an effort that went to the highest levels of the president, and his inner circle. i think the evidence of his culpability is overwhelming. i am looking forward to tomorrow, where the january six committee will do their final public hearing when they will release what i know will be a very detailed report. but make no mistake about, it the evidence of donald trump's participation in inciting the insurrection against the government of united states and

trying to interfere with an official proceeding is clear and overwhelming. i expect that we're going to hear more about it in the same regard. >> we will be watching that, in the hearing tomorrow. you recently introduced a resolution that would actually bar the former president from holding public office ever again, citing a clause in the 14th amendment. as you just noted, if the former presidents were impeached and convicted in either 2019 or 2021, this would be necessary. i am wondering if you've heard any sense of regret from your republican colleagues for not convicting him back when they had the chance. and what do you think the prospects of your resolution? >> i sadly have not heard regret for my republican colleagues. they continue to in large part support the former president. the constitution of the united states, the 14th amendment section three, it makes it very clear that if you have engaged in the insurrection or a rebellion against united states,

you are disqualified from holding federal office. section five of the 14th amendment directs congress to take legislative action, to enforce that provision. and so the legislation i introduced simply sets forth in about 30 pages the conduct over the former president that demonstrates unequivocally that he was engaged against united states, and therefore is disqualified from holding office again, period. we only have one more week before congress adjourns. but they thought it was very important to keep moving this process forward, because we took an oath to the constitution, like all our other elected officials. it is required to -- they set forth information that disqualifies. one is that if you assist in an insurrection against red states, you can't lead a government to try to destroy or overthrow. i hope we will move next week. >> but congressman, do you have any indication that it will move next week? >> now.

look, we just introduced it. i talked about it a year ago but i wanted to work with the genesis committee when it was completed. those assertions were as detailed as possible. i would say that we only have a week remaining but this is an important responsibility that we have to make certain that a person who engages in this kind of conduct can never again have the privilege of holding federal office. >> some people out there might say that this is performative. i, sir, say you are doing their duty and we will be watching to see what congress does. thank you very much, congressman david cicilline for your time today. i appreciate you. coming up on simone, it is go time, y'all. the january six committee, as we just discussed, is putting the final touches on the report. my political panel will be here to discuss what to expect tomorrow, and we're also going to get into something happening on wednesday. the lifting of title 42, and what effect it will have, and a major impact will have, on the

southern border, politics, everything. but first, our bestie is here. my colleague rachel louis. happy holidays, what if you got? >> happy holidays to you as well, simone. we've got a lot to talk about today. a celebration in argentina, if you're a fan of argentina. defeating france in the fifa world cup final today, led by soccer icon lionel messi. argentina beat the defending champs after a series of penalty kicks to break the 33 tie. messi scored twice in what would call the most exciting world cup finals in history. americans in peru fear the political unrest, rocking the country. several americans are trapped in machu picchu, that's a popular tourist destination you may know about in the south american country. peru is under a state of emergency. this following a week of unrest, after the presidents ouster, peru's government says it's working with u.s. to evacuate vulnerable tourists there. and the holiday, travel surge is underway. millions on the road and in the

air this weekend. tsa screened 2.4 million trap passengers on friday alone. aaa expects 113 million people to travel by car this season. christmas, by the, way if you've got calendars, out seven days away. kwanzaa, eight days away. hanukkah, that starts tonight. more simone, right after this break. hi break.

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interviews, issuing more than 100 subpoenas, and gathering hundreds of thousands of documents, the january six committee's attempt is set for tomorrow. we will get a glimpse at what is in the panel's final report on the january 6th insurrection, while all eyes have been focused on whether former president donald trump will be charged. now, we cannot forget to focus on this moment in history. because charges are not -- these lawmakers have worked tirelessly, and they have

risked their careers to hold folks accountable for the threat that was placed on our democracy. some of them have lost their offices. their work is important, and will not be forgotten. so joining me now to discuss it all is any lynskey. she's a white house reporter for the wall street journal. elena beverley is also here, she's a former obama white house aide. and jennifer is a former chair of the new hampshire republican party. welcome. on days like today, i want to make sure i have the avengers to break down information. and that is what we've got. look, i think a lot of the discussion, as i just note, it has centered around referrals may come to the january six committee. i think the referrals are important, they will be historic. but i want to talk about the broader context here. elaina, what do you think about the january six committee's work? how do you think it will be remembered in the context of history, when folks look back at this? >> i think it's going to be remembered as one of the most

effective commissions, fact finding, and investigation commissions in the history of congress. frankly, just as strong as the watergate proceedings if not more thorough and watched by more of the american public. as we get to the point of the report, and the potential criminal referrals who. i think it what we have is the committee speaking not just to the department of justice but the american public, and the historic record. if the department of justice chooses not to indict or not prosecute, the committee itself has done its job in fact finding and comprising this evidence, in ensuring there is a historic record so that going forward, when there is an opportunity for oversight, they can still take up these issues. >> i think that's an important point for the american people. is there anyone outside of the former president looking to see

a referral on? the wig has specifically spoken out, rudy giuliani, what say you? >> certainly, i think rudy giuliani is going to be yanked up by the bar. but i do think mark meadows, in particular, was central to so much of this activity, all of those text messages coming from members of congress. i think that exposes many members to potential liability, if not sanctioning by the bar. so yes, this is about donald trump. it's also about those with him and our politicians and so-called lawmakers who helped to foment the insurrection and try to deny the legitimacy of the election. >> this point about the fact that we know, we saw january 6th unfold on national television. just suppose that this new axios report says that republicans are plotting their rebuttal to the report. jim banks told the outlet they will focus on security failures, and other aspects of the attack,

rather than donald trump. jennifer, this just seems so insane to me. because they, too, we're not only witnesses, their lives were in danger there day at the capitol. what is your reaction to this? >> it is shocking to see just how manipulative and political the leaders of a major political party in our country are willing to be, when confronting the greatest danger to our democracy that our country is possibly ever faced. it is so important that regardless of the response the republicans have to all of this, that the american people stay focused on what really happened on that day. a sitting american president didn't conspire to block the peaceful transfer of power, and it seems clear there were many others, including in the republican party and leadership who were part of this.

if we allow the response from the republican party leaders to distract us from that, then our country remains in critical danger. >> we preach, just bolden underlined what you just said there. i'm interest in your perspective, you are somebody that has reported on this from the beginning. you lived it, obviously as this was happening. the trump administration was in charge on january 6th, what are my former colleagues at the white house saying privately, in advance of this report? they haven't publicly said anything about this, they've let the committee do their work. >> the biden administration has taken the independents of the judiciary so seriously in this instance, that there has been very little private conversation about this. i was texting with one senior administration official, and

asking today, what are you watching for? and the response was just, a zip emoji. they weren't even going to go for it, even on the background in a casual conversation. so i think the white house just wanted to watch at arms length, from what has been playing out. but clearly, as you know, your former colleagues were watching it all extremely closely. they were certainly part of the 20 million people who watch the first one, and i think the other thing is really important. there was so much conversation about whether or not these hearings would actually matter, and whether people care about them, whether this was just a quote unquote washington state. but i think we saw it in the midterms with the surprising year the democrats had. part of it was this

undercurrent, of's democracy on the line here? when i talk to voters at the polls, they were talking about it. so there has got to be a sense of vindictiveness, and vindication among the biden folks. they are really keeping it to themselves. >> yes, that is the biden way, as folks used to say. we are going to continue to watch january 6th, if there are any updates in this hour. let's move to talk about title 42, because title 42 allows the government to be stripped of asylum during the covid-19 pandemic. that enforcement is said to be lifted on wednesday. they released their plan for the potential surge of -- increasing customs, and border control processing efficiency. detailing consequences for unlawful entry, and aid for non government organizations that

assist migrants. i think that first of all, i am glad to put that on the screen. we found this because we hear a lot of talk about the surge at the border. but not talk about the plans the administration has laid out. elena, i would love to hear from you on how you think the administration because -- the effectiveness of the communication on this plan. >> the search is already begun, frankly. they've been preparing for this for quite awhile, and when the rubber meets the road, they are sending the resources that are needed down to those border communities. as you mentioned, dhs has that plan, but it's executing on that plan. creating additional facilities, making sure there are balancing the need for security with a humane response. but honestly, going forward, we have seen that kevin mccarthy has talked about oversight

hearings that we will be focusing on an open border process. the administration does not have a sober and mature partner in congress, going forward, in january. so what we are going to see is the administration trying to address this issue with one hand tied behind their backs. because they don't have the winning coalition in congress to get this work done. this is not something that can happen in a piecemeal fashion. it requires comprehensive immigration reform, and i think the biden administration has been very clear about trying to tackle that. comprehensive immigration reform in the long term, and in the short term, trying to address this issue with the crisis at the border right now. >> jennifer, if you had one word, very quickly, to describe the prospects of democrats and republicans getting immigration reform done next congress? >> heartbreakingly unlikely.

>> oh goodness. this is not hopeful at all. y'all are going to stay with me, we are going to continue this conversation. do not go anywhere. we have a quick programming note, tomorrow at noon eastern, please join us at nbc for coverage of the final january 6th meeting. it will be led by adrian mitchell and hallie jackson. then stick around, for a two-hour recap special beginning at eight p.m. eastern. for expert analysis's, i will also be there to share some insights into the january 6th hearings. tomorrow on msnbc. when we come back here, president biden plans to take a victory lap on his accomplishments for the holidays. that's this upcoming week. before entering a new reality come january. reaction from the political panel is next. next. ♪♪

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nbc news reporting president biden will address the nation this week in a speech that will celebrate the accomplishments of his first two years. according to one official, the tone of the speech will be less of a victory lap and more of a, quote, celebration. focusing on unity in the holiday spirit. nbc news reports that the people familiar the matter say that president biden could announce his reelection as soon as february. my political panel is back.

welcome. elena, let's start with you. because we heard the democrats have been criticized for not focusing enough on their victories. do you think this will offset some of that? >> yes. look, we could all use some unity and some holiday cheer. but i think this is an important opportunity for the biden administration to share all those victories, everything from the american rescue plan to the inflation reduction act, and more recent actions, like the respect for marriage act, and so on the next few years are going to be difficult. with a divided congress, so i'm hopeful that the democrats and the administration continue to hone in on what they've done for the last two years and continue to lift up the american public when we do have victories in the next two. >> annie, i can't help but think reelection, when i hear about a speech like this. obviously, the president, this administration is a lot to be

proud of. they have accomplished a lot. but there is also the looming question of, will, he won't he run? in my opinion, i think we should take him at his word. he says he intends to, and that's what he will do. what do you think about this? how might this play into the potential reelection campaign announcement, later in 2023? >> the wall street journal has also reported that the administration -- that the president is considering february as a timeframe for the announcement of some kind of decision. so that does seem to be in the air. a speech right before christmas, i am not sure that is a time when americans are going to be focused on politics. i think that this administration as done quite a lot of work. i agree with many when they say

that they may have struggled with trying to take credit for these things. perhaps we will see biden on the ropes more often in the next few months, to a year. and i think that would do a little more to drive the conversation, if that's what he wants to do. >> all right. we will be watching that. on the other side of the aisle, folks are making the rounds. including lisa hutchinson. and he spoke with my colleague today about the new incoming congress, and how kevin mccarthy fears -- >> the republicans leadership should not be listed simply to the loudest voice in the room. because it is a minority, because it might be extreme. when you look at kevin mccarthy, he has got to win, just simply because you can't yield to the loudest voice that is disruptive and can bring our party, in terms of the strength of our house leadership, down.

>> jennifer, we all have 30 seconds. when you think? >> it's clear that he is giving too much credence and influence to the most destructive members of his caucus. we are seeing that already in the way he is trying to collect votes, and i think from the perspective of what can president biden do to counter all of this? i hope that he will advance more things like the respect for marriage act. we've seen gen z become so influential in our collections, i hope that he has an opportunity here if he can do a better job with communicating some of those successes. >> i will leave it there. atlanta, we've got to leave it there. but i can say that with the young people, we are paying attention, so speak to us. thank you all very much. we have a lot more to get

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holding its final public meeting tomorrow. in that meeting, we will learn -- we will learn that in the real final report that's expected to come out wednesday. nbc news has learned the committee is discussing recommending donald trump be prosecuted for at least three crimes. the most serious being insurrection. but we could learn a lot tomorrow, still. so take a look at some of the key things to watch for. who the committee refers to the justice department, for criminal charges. the fullest could very well be beyond donald trump. which charges are recommended, and other types of referrals the committee could make two entities other than the justice department. i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst, melissa murray. she is a professor new york university law school. and a former law clerk to justice sonia sotomayor of the supreme court. she's going to help break this all down. melissa, first, tell us what are the legal streets saying advance of tomorrow? what are they looking for, what do they think about criminal referrals? give us a little window. >> well, we know as little as

you do. where everyone is going to be looking tomorrow to find out what is coming out of the january six committee. but what we do know is this. this committee is not like an ordinary criminal investigation. so while it can make recommendations, for investigative purposes, it can't actually do anything like bring criminal charges. that's why these referrals to the department of justice are so important. they will make these recommendations of criminal referrals to the department of justice, and the department justice will take it from there. recognizing that they will actually have to assess whether or not there is evidence that would support a conviction, if they were to actually take this to the next level and prosecute. but leaving aside the question of those criminal referrals, there is -- for example, far associations that are professionals in their respective fields. including the law. so there could be referrals to licensing bodies about this

borrowing or censuring certain people for the actions they took, with regards to january six. there might also be broader ethical referrals to congress, if some of the members of that body are implicated. >> how heavily would the bar association or the national bar association way referral from congress like this? >> the bar associations are jurisdictions that have their own rules. i think they would take a quite seriously, if a congressional committee made the sort of recommendation. because again, especially for lawyers, this system is upholding democracy and we all take this oath when we are sewn into the bar, to uphold the constitution into actively work to support the constitutional and successful transfer of power. it seems to be exactly the sort of thing that our social nations would take quite seriously. >> okay. we will be watching for that.

earlier today, committee member adam schiff said that the january six committee is not done with a list of people who may think they have gotten away with not showing to the january 6th hearings. take a listen to what he had to say. >> we will also be considering a remedy for members of congress who have a congressional subpoena, as well as the evidence that was so pertinent to our investigation. >> melissa, republicans take control of congress in just 16 days. what really is the fate of these potential ethics referrals that will move from members of congress? >> a little dicey. it's not clear the democrats are going to retain control of congress, there will be shared governance between the two parties. that will make it harder for any kind of ethics referral to go through. again, the mere fact of referring these two committees, to actually finger and single out members of congress, that

would really be something quite significant. so, again, it might not necessarily lead to a criminal referral, to the department of justice, quite significant nonetheless. set representatives schiff has made it clear, they are going to stay on their necks to the very end. >> all right, melissa murray, thank you very much. we have so much more coming up next, including my very special guest in the spotlight. i'm talking about morris chestnut, he will be here in the studio to talk about all things the best man found chapters. stick with us. stick with us. ness get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp and it only takes eight minutes to qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what they could do. getrefunds.com has helped businesses get over a billion dollars and we can help your business too. qualify your business for a big refund in eight minutes. go to getrefunds.com to get started. powered by innovation refunds. as americans,

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we have some breaking news on the january six committee. ahead of their meeting on monday we have learned, nbc news has learned, that they met today to finalize plans to issue criminal referrals for former president donald trump. ahead of tomorrow's meeting. that includes obstructing an

official proceeding, conspiracy to defy the government, inciting or assisting an insurrection. nbc news has learned this information. the committee also discussed dr. john eastman's involvement in the conspiracy to overturn the election results related to obstruction of proceeding. we're going to have more on this breaking news at the top of the hour. thank you very, much everyone. all right, in today's simona spotlight, we are making a turn. we are going to talk to after morris chestnut. he is an actor, he is a producer. we are going to talk about his film and television career. morris chestnut is here. thank you very much. some of the folks may know you from everything, from rosewood, boys in the hood. you have a new project that the people are talking about, the best man, the final chapters. we have a clip. >> let's take a look. cool. >> we were celebrating our

20th. it's the what it's that always harm me. what if you are still here? what would you have done? i know you would love our son. >> that is your character lance sullivan. it is deep, okay? >> yes, it is deep. >> that scene, dealing with grief, loss of 11. it's something many people can relate to. the best and final chapters is back with a limited series on peacock, starting december 22nd. talk to me about the transformation from the first time we saw -- what was that? 1999? >> yes, yes. lance had hair and 99. he did, he did. so, lance was -- there he is. he was married. he was just starting a family. things were going well. since then, you know, investment, holiday, he lost

his wife. so, now in this opens up, he is dealing -- still dealing with the loss of his wife. probably around episode four or five, there's going to be some very new personal challenges. >> new personal, this is what we call a tease! >> yes, very new personal challenges to deal with. >> when you shot the original best man, 20 years ago, did you all anticipate that 20 years later the characters would still have so much life and vibrancy? you would be filming yet another series? >> not at all, listen, we had fun when we shot the first one. it was my first time filming a movie. >> it was? >> first time being in new york for extended period of time. i was only there for the day, i went to the boys in the premier, moving from california. we had no idea that we would still be here, these characters would still be relevant. the project would be relevant to this day. >> this series, the best man, it is so related will. it shows a dynamic group of

friends. who have been together since college. they had babies. they lost loved ones. they had gone through trials and tribulations. it's something that young black folks like myself can absolutely relate to. talk about this cast and how you have become a family, the bonds that have been made over the course of 20 years. i was like, i was maybe eight. >> yeah, listen, listen, 20 years is a long time. we have fun together. we really do enjoy being around each other. we love working with each other. think about it like this. just think of having like seven of your closest friends and getting paid to be at work and just having fun. that is what we do. it's a headache for our producers and our directors. we really do enjoy ourselves. we have a good time on screen. i think the audience can tell that we really do enjoy being around each other. >> what is the biggest difference between shooting a film and then this series. the final chapter is a limited

series. it's eight episodes? >> exactly, one of the main differences, when we do a movie, we get the script. we will have the script for the whole movie. we will shoot 40 5:50 days. for a television series, we were getting the scripts as they were writing them. we had the first to. and then that we got the second to, towards the end they trickled in a little bit. you don't -- we don't really know what's going on. like, i'm opening the script. >> the table reads were interesting. >> oh, they are always interesting. yes, very interesting. >> okay, okay, lance olive, and he's always been a faith driven character, right? what are the new challenges we will see lance go through? what are the similarities between you and this character? ar>> i think there's a lot of similarities. and this iteration of the best man, not so much, i know for sure that i would handle things differently than lance would. he does, his fate is tested in

this version of the best man. i'd say he's going to have some very personal challenges that he has to do. >> we will be watching, is this really the final chapter? >> well, you should ask the director. malcolm lee, is this the final chapter? look at the camera? >> michael mckinley, is this the final chapter? we're going to get an answer from malcolm lee. before i let you go, i hear you have a birthday coming up. january 1st, you are not a sagittarius, we will not hold that against you. my husband is a capricorn. >> there it is, okay. >> happy early birthday, -- >> thank you for having me on the show. >> oh, absolutely -- morris chestnut, the sexiest man alive. thank you so much. folks, get out there, just a reminder, just a reminder, you can watch the best man final chapter on peacock starting december 22nd. another reminder, okay, we are following breaking news about the details of the january six committee meeting today ahead of their final meeting tomorrow. there's going to be a live update on politics nation with

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