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choose change, california, and find medically proven treatment options at choosechangeca.org. good to be with you for another hour. on msnbc. president biden and president zelenskyy are in the oval office right now, meeting about the war
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in ukraine. here they were a moment ago when president biden told zelenskyy that the u.s. is sending patriot air defense systems to help ukraine fend off russia's attacks. >> together with our allies in europe, japan, and other places, to make sure that you have the financial, humanitarian, and security assistance. >> wearing a fatigue style sweatshirt and cargo pant, the war time president president zelenskyy thanked not just president biden but the american people as well. >> i really appreciate, i think it is hard to understand when we say appreciate, but you really have to feel it, and thank you so much. >> this is president zelenskyy's first known trip outside of ukraine since the russian invasion of that country, and after the oval office huddle, the pair will hold a joint news conference later this afternoon,
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ahead of president zelenskyy's address to a joint session of congress tonight. our team is here with the latest. also this hour, the waiting game on capitol hill, the final report from the january 6th committee is still under wraps. as nbc news reports on pre-insurrection warning, to the fbi that fell flat. and plus, the major winter storm marching across the middle of the country right now. it's keeping planes on the ground and cars off the roads. we got the latest forecast, with just four days until christmas. i'm katie tur in for hallie jackson this afternoon and with me is white house correspondent mike memoli, capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and i don't know why you said goodbye because you've been with me for the last hour. >> the long haul. >> and foreign correspondent matt bradley is with us from kyiv, ukraine, and msnbc contributor helene cooper. and chief international analyst,
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admiral james stradvidis. i will start you with, mike. give us the latest on what you're hearing from the white house. >> it is really remarkable to see the pictures that we're seeing out of the white house today. think back to the last time president zelenskyy came here to washington, to the white house, in september of 2021, and compare that to now, and what the scene is today, as these two men walking along the colonnades at the white house, sitting down by the roaring fire in the oval office, the first time president zelenskyy has left his country in the 300 days since the invasion from russia. and really obviously, this is a meeting all the more remarkable considering it only came together in a matter of 10 days, and the white house officials say president zelenskyy was keen to come to washington, understanding as president biden might put it that there is something of an inflection point coming here, that despite the fact that ukraine has been able to withstand russia's aggression over the course of these last 300 days, they're heading into, as president biden put it in the
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oval office, a moment in which russia is going to be using winter as a weapon. and also as political support from washington, from our ail licenses as well, may be waning in the face of a long conflict and first and foremost for the two men, an opportunity to praise one another and solidarity and the bravery of the ukrainian people. and let's take a listen to the exchange in the oval office a short time ago. >> together with our allies in europe, japan, and other places, to make sure you have the financial, humanitarian, and security assistance that is needed. and we will talk about that today. and we're going to continue to strengthen ukraine's ability to defend itself, particularly air defense and that's why we are going to be providing ukraine with a patriot missile package and training for your forces to be able to accurately use it. together with our partners we will continue to impose costs on kremlin, and we'll support
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ukraine pursuing a just peace. >> thank you so much, mr. president. of course, thanks to our partners, thanks to congress, and thanks from us, just ordinary people, to your ordinary people, americans, i really appreciate it. >> a poignant moment at the end of the meeting as president zelenskyy presented to president biden a medal he said a ukrainian soldier had given to him, wanting him to give it, as he put it, to a brave president, the president wanting in return a challenge coin to be gym given back to that soldier. but now pleasantries aside and from the initial meeting, we will see a more potentially difficult discussion between these two men. marine between their delegation, as they confront the difficult choices ahead, what needs to be done to sustain ukraine's effort
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to defend itself, to continue to withstabbed potential future more aggressive -- withstand potential future more aggressive move bis russia and we will see more before the address to congress tonight. >> matt bradley, before we go to congress, i want to get the latest from kyiv from you, because it was 24 hours ago that president zelenskyy was in bakhmut, considered the most dangerous region in ukraine right now, where the fighting is the heaviest. what is the reaction to his visit to washington? and can you tell us a little bit about what it took to get him here, to the united states today? >> well, there are no flights out of ukraine. when we fly to ukraine, we fly into poland and then we go by car, over the border, that's how almost everybody gets here, that's how president zelenskyy got out of the country, and to get out of the country, he had to wait for public opinion to allow him, because remember, the first part of the war, he made a point, and the ukrainian people cheered him for this, of not leaving the country, and remember, the americans asked him, do you basically, you want us to get you out of there, and
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he replied in a kind of a hollywood one-liner, i need ammunition, not a ride. so this was his whole thing, he was staying in ukraine, he was always going to remain there, and it says something about the state of play here on the battlefield, that now, there's been so much success over the past couple of months, ever since summer, beating back the russian lines, that now, he's able to go and to give, you know, basically show gratitude, and that gratitude was shown from the ordinary ukrainian people, as you said, was very genuine, i see that and the streets here in kyiv. he was able to come to washington, show that gratitude, and then ask for more. because here, in ukraine, the battle really is at an impasse. there hasn't been any real movements on the front lines for the past several weeks. that fighting in bakhmut is furiously raging. but none of the front lines are moving. it is static right now. and that's why they're looking for a game-changer and they're also worried, the ukrainians that russia is going to launch a new renewed attack, all along
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the massive sprawling front line that goes the entire length of the country from north to south, but also, making another play for the capital, kyiv, where i am now. and that could be a disaster, especially if they go from belarus or use other new more dangerous weapons that they haven't yet deployed on the battlefield. so that is what is in zelenskyy's mind here. and in the ukrainian public, i got to tell you, that gratitude he showed, from ordinary ukrainians, that's something that we see, and i've spoken to people today, people on the street, one man wearing fatigues, it looked like the clothes shall the casual clothes that we saw president zelenskyy there at the white house, he was saying, he was almost moved to tears, describing how grateful he was to the united states, and just how much affection he has for this country, and that's because the united states has given more money than any other country, and more weapons and support than any other country, by orders of magnitude.
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and so the gratitude is genuine and it is something that i think that, you know, a lot of americans who are footing the bill, a lot of the heavy weapons that are coming here, an enormous amount of money that is being lavished on this country, they can be proud of, and they can be, you know, really cheered, as ordinary ukrainians really do feel that genuine affection. >> and i point out the clothes for a purpose, this is not just a diplomatic visit by a head of state to the white house, normally very formal suits and ties and this is a visit from a war-time president, taking just a few hours in this country to plead for continued support, because this country is under constant assault by a much larger and expected to be at least much more well-equipped, much richer nation. ali vitali, president zelenskyy is going to be speaking to congress later tonight, do we know, during the joint session
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of congress, do we know if everybody is going to show up? do we know what his reception will be? >> a joint meeting of congress today, katy, and look, this is now at a point where the things that you talked about, the idea that there have been billions of dollars sent into the port of ukraine from this congress, but also, that the support for that might be waing and it is waning from a specific place. if you listen for example to the way that this visit is being received by the bulk of people on the senate side of this building, from both parties, there's a view that having zelenskyy here to express that gratitude, to talk about what the actual impact of american dollars, and military support mean on the ground, in terms of of keeping ukraine against the russian aggression, but at the same time, you're also hearing from house republicans at a point where they're about to take the gav until congress and there is a real reticence to continue this cash flow to ukraine in the same way that it has been going. this also comes at a point, though, where this is a building that is working on a larger
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funding measure right now, the omnibus bill, it is something that it is working its way through the senate as we speak, within that large package, $1.66 trillion, i believe, is the total, there are $44 billion already allocated for more ukraine aid. so at least at this point, that is already likely to go forward. what happens next, though, is when the next congress starts going and talking about funding for the following year. will house republicans go along with that? and look, you listen to what kevin mccarthy said earlier as we were listening to him in the halls of congress, he is someone who had a lot of pressure from within his conference, a lot of different things, right now, but certainly when it comes to ukraine funding, and just listen for example to the way that schumer and mcconnell have talked about this yesterday, pointing to donald trump, pointing to the schisms with house republicans. listen. >> i hope that donald trump's friendship with putin is not motivating house republicans to turn a blind eye to ukraine's suffering and desperate plea for
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help. >> the most basic reasons for continuing to help ukraine degrade and defeat the russian invaders are cold hard practical american interests. >> now, again, katy, it sounds bipartisan on the senate side, to continue the support but especially when you get over to the house conference, this is where the schisms start and likely to see them tomorrow. >> let's leave the schisms aside and talk about what is coming right now and helene what is the pentagon sending to ukraine? >> hi, thank you for having me. the biggest new thing in the package is the patriot battery, the first time that the united states is sending one of its most advanced air defense systems to ukraine. and it is a pretty big deal. it is something that the biden administration has thought about for a long time. they say that stockpiles are limited. they are only sending one
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battery, but it's still a big step for the united states. they're also sending jdns in the system, which are missiles that, a missile kit that you can fit to a fighter jet, and it allows for more precision-guided targeting from the air. i thought the, one thing i do want to bring up, though, and in is along the minds of weapons that have been given to ukraine, you saw president zelenskyy talk, as mike just mentioned about, giving president biden a medal from a ukrainian captain, he said in bakhmut, which he met with yesterday and you know it is a front line city where there is a lot of fighting going on. what is really significant, at the moment that president zelenskyy said this, you saw president biden's eyebrows go up, and he said this is a himars
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captain, he is a captain of a himars battery, the united states finally admitted back in june or july that it was providing himars to ukraine and these are advanced rockets systems, and they are a huge deal. they are largely credited by so many people, including the ukrainians for why ukraine was able to beat back that, to beat back russian troops on their offensive in september. they're a big, big deal. and the fact that president zelenskyy is now talking to one of the ukrainians, trained by the americans, to operate this very advanced system, and saying thank you president biden, for this, i think it was quite, i thought that was the most significant thing i saw in that meeting between the two of them. it was a pretty cool thing to see. and president biden's reaction, i thought was really
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interesting, because he did a little fist pump, i think, as you saw, as president zelenskyy said himars and he is acknowledging, in my view, just what a big game-changer the himars have been. >> and just to be clear, these defense systems that we're sending them, one battery, the air patriot, air defense battery that we're sending, there is going to be training on this, helene, but the training is done in a third country, this is another one of the steps that the u.s. is taking to be very clear that ukraine is fighting this war, and yes we're helping to arm them, but ukraine is fighting this war, not americans, so not to trigger nato article 5? >> yes, the training is done in germany as has most of the training been done thus far. it will take 90 troops to operate the patriot battery which is a lot, that they will shall, they will be trained by
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american trainers in germany. >> admiral, what do you think about what is being said today? >> it's hard to capture anything new after that very long series of reports from this panel. i guess what i would say is president zelenskyy has to do what we saw him do with the president, in front of the congress, and that is convey the gratitude of the ukrainian people, that's important, but there are other audiences here. he is seeking to reassure the people of ukraine that he has maintained a strong relationship with the united states and seeking to send a signal to the europeans, and by the way, the united states has spent about $40 billion or so, and europe's up and around 30 billion, these are not at all insignificant contributions from the europeans. so he is also signaling europe to stay on pace. and then perhaps most importantly, katy, he is signaling the russians.
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he's signaling putin. he's channeling defiance. and scorn. he's sending that signal. i think he's done it very powerfully in this meeting, as we've talked about, and let's let him take that game up to the hill, and much bigger audience, we'll watch it, i think it will be a very powerful moment. the final thought here on the tactics of what's happening. the ukrainians are winning the ground war. that's a fact, they're taking back territory at a pretty good pace, slowing down because of winter. but they are losing the air war. and that's why, not only are these patriots important, but are the j-dams that helene mentioned, allowing the ukrainians to go after the logistics that are flowing, not targets inside russia, targets inside ukraine, that will be an important part of this, it's a tale of two wars, a ground war, in which they are succeeding, and an air war, in which they're
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being pummelled and this is why this is a very significant tactical military moment alongside the political and strategic one that we just talked about. >> admiral, one more quick question to you. it's a quick question, but it is probably a longer answer, if you want to give it the full context, but ali vitali is reporting on what might happen next year and there are some republicans saying they don't want to write a blank check anylonger to support to ukraine and mitch mcconnell sounded different today, it is not just the moral thing to do, it is in the cold hard interest of american national security, i'm paraphrasing. you can explain what he means by that? >> what he is saying is that the dollars we are spending are directly being used to, you heard this word, to degrade the russian military, to crack the phalanx of the russian island, that is powerful for the united
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states, because it weakens russia and takes actions away from vladimir putin, and let's point it, out, chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell, in complete agreement on something, yes, there will be some cracking around the edges politically, as ali told us very well a moment ago, but i think the main thrust of this is going to move forward and it is in the geopolitical national interest of the united states there to do so. >> admiral stradviris, thank you very much forbe for being with us and waiting for me to get to you. appreciate everybody, and more on president zelenskyy's historic visit to washington, coming up. and we're going to talk to the co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus. plus, we're live at the border where towns in texas are already overwhelmed by a migrant surge that could get worse in the coming days. it is certainly very cold down there as well. first up though, republicans just released their pre-buttal
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the january 6th committee will release its final eight-chapter report at any moment now. and when they do, it will mark the end of the committee's nearly 18-month investigation into the attack on the capitol. the so-called gop shadow committee for its part just released a counter report on the january 6th attack. in the last few minutes. joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, and justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. so ryan, first up to you, give us the lay of the land. >> well, katy, this report that was put out by the five members of the republican panel who initially were appointed to the january 6th select committee by kevin mccarthy, but then all ended up leaving the committee after nancy pelosi vetoed the appointments of two of the
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member, really focuses on the security failures by not only the national guard but the capitol police, and the attempts to, in some respects, lay the blame at the feet of the house speaker nancy pelosi, saying that she did not do enough to encourage the sergeant at arms, and the capitol police chief, to beef up security, on that day. now, that obviously is in dispute by democrats in the speaker's office specifically, which the speaker said time and time again, that she, while appointing members to the capitol police board, does not make those direct decisions, what this report does is kind of dispute that, saying that there was political pressure upon some of the leadership in that division. regardless of kind of the political posturing of this particular report, there is no doubt, and it has been talked about on many levels not just through the investigation from the january 6th committee, which we will see forthcoming but also from the senate committee that look mood, this that there was a massive security and intelligence failure on that day, and you know, that is
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something that needs to be rectified, and that there are recommendations in place to do so. so that is separate. it is going to be kind of a much different focus than what we're going to see from the committee's report which comes out at any moment. but it is worth noting that the security intelligence failures are something that many people have talked about as being a major concern as to why everything kind of unraveled here on january 6th. >> that's a totally legitimate concern. where was all of the intelligence that showed what was going to happen on that day. ryan, do we know what is going on with the printer? has it finished printing out this report? >> it is pretty remarkable, katy, in this day and age and the way that technology moves and the united states congress, and it is not just the select committee, but it is something that is required here, that things have to be physically printed out on paper, before they can officially be released. and that is part of what the holdup is in terms of the delivery of this report. but we should point out that when the report actually does
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land, there probably will be some new information in there that we haven't heard. but the general thesis has been laid out, not just on monday, when they had their last business meeting, and gave usion an executive summary, but also over the course of ten separate public hearings where they discussed what they believe is the crux of what led to january 6th. and that was the former president donald trump's attempts to stand in the way of the peaceful transfer of power and to specifically encourage his supporters to come to washington on that day. they believe that has been the most important work that they've done, and is going to be the highlight of that report, when it comes out here in the next few, i don't know, when it comes out soon, katy. >> sometime today. >> they did tell us today. ken dilanian, let's talk about the d.o.j. side of this. punchbowl first reported, nbc news has confirmed, that jack smith the special counsel sent a letter to the committee asking for a whole lot of evidence. what did he want? and what does it indicate about their investigation? the d.o.j. investigation. >> he wants it all, katy, and
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there's been an ongoing frustration at the justice department that they haven't been able to get those transcripts of all of those interviews that the january 6th committee has done. they've been asking for it for some time and now they're finally getting it. and you know, obviously, the justice department has their investigation into these matters, it has been ongoing for some time, and in many ways, it was accelerated by some of the evidence that the january 6th committee unearthed and put on television. it's very clear that cassidy hutchison's testimony for fire under the justice lit a department and accelerated some of their investigative efforts. but they are pretty far down the road now. but they're very interested in what people like, you know, people like tony ornato for example told the committee. they want these transcripts so they can compare the interviews they're doing with the interviews that people have already done with the committee and they want all of the evidence that the committee had, and build on it, it is not so much as a handleoff as sort of a running, passing of the baton in a relay race, the justice
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department picked it up now and they move forward. >> ken dilanian, ryan nobles, thank you very much. appreciate it. and still ahead, i will talk to the co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus about president zelenskyy's prime time address which is now just a couple of hours away. first up though, we're going to take you inside the situation at the southern border, as the supreme court weighs the future of title 42. as the supreme court weighs the fute ur of title 42. even when things seem quieter, the urge to protect means staying on the lookout
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right now, the future of title 42 is in the hands of the supreme court. justices could act at any time now that the all of the responses have been filed. and in its filing, the biden administration argued the covid era border restrictions should end, but asked for a delay until after christmas. so they have time to prepare for an influx of migrants. the policy was supposed to end today. but it is staying in place while justices weigh the challenge from 19 republican-led states which means border officials could still more easily turn away people trying to enter the country. all of this is creating confusion. and a whole lot of who knows what at the border. let's bring in nbc correspondent morgan chesky, and so many people are trying to get in at the border and what's it like? >> i think you nailed. it i think frustration and
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confusion are the two key words here. as everyone watches and waits to see what happens to title 42. we're here in mission, texas, in the rio grande valley, where this used to be a hot spot of people coming across and in recent months and years we have seen added infrastructure and increased personnel from border patrol, from texas dps arrive here and as a result, we've seen numbers go up in areas like eagle pass, texas, and into the far west in el paso, texas. that city of course, still under a state of emergency, because of that surge in illegal crossings there. with this date, expiration of title 42 now being pushed back until after christmas, everyone is just watching and waiting. we have had a chance to hear from those in shelters who have helped the migrants and they say right now, they are concerned that not only are they already short on resources, but if and when title 42 does expire, they would be unable to help as many
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people as they would like to because there would be so many people. one director in el paso saying that his estimate is anywhere from 5 to 6,000 people crossing just in that el paso sector alone. that's the kind of numbers that could happen, if and when this policy falls through. as to whether or not it will, as you mentioned, that's in the supreme court's hands right now, who could let it expire, as the biden administration requested in just a few days after christmas, or they could take weeks, even months, studying this challenge. either way, with numbers on the rise, when it comes to illegal crossings here, there is still far from anything, from a permanent solution here on the texas/mexico border. katy. >>? what. >> what about those still in mexico? what are they doing right now as they wait and see if this is going to get lifted? >> that's interesting. we were in a city just across from mcallen, over the past two days, speaking to a church
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pastor there, who runs a tent city, or he runs a shelter that has become a tent city, over the last year, and the pastor told us that it is interesting, it depends who you speak to, regarding the men and women and children in the camp, as to whether or not they're even aware of title 42. i think there is an assumption to some degree that those coming up to seek a better life here are very keyed in to immigration policy. and i asked him, you know, do people come up to you asking what is the status of title 42, and he says there's a significant amount of people that don't even know what title 42 is. they're simply trying to get to a better place, a safe place, potentially to reconnect with family, who is already here in america. and so i think that's an important distinction as well. as for the numbers that they're trying to take care of, at his shelter there, he says over the
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past year, it has quadrupled in size, and the largest groups being those from nicaragua, from haiti, and from venezuela. >> just so hard to see those kids outside there in the cold. there's nowhere to go. morgan, thank you very much. and then just about an hour from now, presidents biden and zelenskyy will emerge from their private white house meeting to speak with reporters. we will bring you that joint news conference live. after that, all eyes will turn to capitol hill, where president zelenskyy is said to address a joint session of congress tonight. the speech comes as lawmakers weigh approving more than $40 billion in aid for the war. joining me now is democratic congressman of illinois, a member everybody the house intelligence committee and co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus. thanks so much for being with us. let's talk about this additional aid. i think it's $43 billion that's being considered in this
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omnibus. any idea if there's going to be a holdup? or do you expect it to pass? >> look, i'm optimistic, we will get the om mi bus done, it will be part of that package, the senate sometime tonight and the house sometime tomorrow at the layest the next day. >> all right, so you're confident this 43 billion in aid, this is the last chunk of aid that is going to be coming from congress for some time, or do you think that the republicans will get on board in the future? >> i think the reason you're seeing a package this large is because there is some concern that with the transition and uncertain leadership on the house side, that something wouldn't necessarily be there. and this is obviously a great deal of money. and should be able to get us through a very tough winner in ukraine, with the war going on, and on into the next fiscal year. so i'm hoping it takes us there. and i'm hoping that president zelenskyy's speech tonight will remind all of my colleagues just how important aid is. >> what's your war argument for
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continuing to support ukraine? >> you know, it's, katy, i've been here 14 years, this is one of those rare exciting and historical moments tonight, and it reminds me of another historical moment, when fdr gave his last inaugural, and he's speaking to the same point, right? the war, the second world war and this war, have some of the same basis and reasons for fighting and he said what we have learned is we cannot live alone, our security is dependent on the security of others. he quoted emerson, saying, he reminded us that if you want to have a friend, you've got to be one. so we are reminded that president putin's designs aren't just on ukraine, it's on eastern and central europe, and the rest of the world is watching, and including beijing, with its eyes on taiwan. how united will the west be and particularly the united states? >> what is the difference
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between having president zelenskyy address congress virtually, which he has done in the past, and having him be there in person tonight? >> there's an energy in the room that transcends the moment. it's fascinating. i was with president zelenskyy in kyiv in july, and in the meeting with him, and his advisers about that war effort. it's as close to, again, that parallel with the second world war, my generation, being with churchill, during the blitz, that charisma, that leadership, it's hard to miss. it's hard to avoid in your heart that you know, when we deal with these things, it is not just our mind knowing, it is the smart thing to do for our country and our world and it is the right thing to do. i stood on a mass grave in bucha, and i was reminded that what we always learned about the second world war, and the genocide that took place there, is we promise never again. and tonight is a moment when we
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remember that we cannot let that happen again. >> if i may channel some americans out there, who are feeling squeezed, certainly this holiday season, by inflation, by a recession that might be coming, what do you say to them when they say i don't understand why we can sends all of this money to ukraine, but i'm not getting the help that i need here. >> look, this country can do more than one thing at a time. and i think in the past, the inflation reduction act, when wee we passed that, we took a good step in that direction. we've starting to see some of this pay off. we're starting to see gas prices go down. there is much more that needs to be done at home. let's again remember our history. fdr fought this war in the middle of a depression. so obviously, there's news at home, and we're needs at home and we're not disregarding that, we're fighting that battle as well, but at the same time, it's on our own, in our own best interest to take care of here, because putin isn't just
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concerned about ukraine. he is concerned with much more of that. and the threats there involved, it is simply the potential attack on a nuclear power plant, that if that goes badly, it could take out much of europe. so our interests are involved, and it is also who we are as country. that has some value as well. >> and i will point out that the war effort for fdr, during world war ii, and during the depression here, did create a lot of jobs, because everything we built here, and sent overseas. congressman, thank you very much for joining us today. appreciate it. and coming up next, we're tracking what is happening at what is shaping up to be the worst pre-christmas storm in decades that could bring holiday travel to a standstill. our team has the latest and what you need to know before you head out the door.
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>> reporter: always. well, as we can say, basically, that as you said the storm is making its way toward the midwest but the impact is already being felt here at o'hare. this is of course one of america's busiest airports and when you look at the delays and cancellations that are already stacking up out west, no surprise, permeating in this direction, the latest from flight aware, more than 3500 delays just today, across the country, and 400 flights cancellation, and as you know, katy, this storm really just started making its way across the country, and dumped like a foot of snow out in washington state yesterday, and of course now, it is making its way east, and the timing frankly could not be worse. close to 7 million americans expected to fly over this holiday stretch, and to be with loved ones for the holiday. and that is nearing post-pandemic levels and near 2019 levels, which was an all-time record. so right now, the airlines are asking people, if he had can, to move their flights up to try and i know it is getting late in the afternoon to try to make it out today and tomorrow morning, and
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they waved rebooking fees but one thing to keep in mind, it allows even more time at the ailment, because as i said, you have people dealing with the delays and cancellations and people trying to get out ahead of the storm, it is creating a rush at the airport. >> good luck to everybody at o'hare and everybody traveling in the days to come. still ahead, elon musk says he will step aside as twitter's ceo but only when he finds someone who is quote foolish enough to take the job. what is happening inside of twitter? next. when cold symptoms keep you up, try vicks nyquil severe. just one dose starts to relieve 9 of your worst cold and flu symptoms, to help take you from 9 to none. for max-strength nighttime relief, nyquil severe. (vo) 'tis the season to switch to verizon. it's your last chance to get our best deal of the year.f, (scrooge) 'tis? (cecily) 'tis! (vo) this holiday season verizon gives you the new iphone 14 pro
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his plate that he perhaps finds boring or does not excite him like going to mars or building electric cars or shaping the engineering aspects of twitter. >> will he still be holding twitter polls, asking for votes on what he does next on the platform, who he allows to stay on and who he kicks off? >> without a doubt, you will probably see more of that. it's interesting, in the hours after that poll closed, he suggested or he said going forward, those polls would be only open up to people that are paying money to be on twitter, those twitter blue subscribers, that they would be able to control the votes on the policy changes. the polls would be open for other things, of course. but when it came to policy changes like he is talking about whether he should be ceo or not, that's up to the people who have paid to be on the island. >> what's about tesla? the stock has dropped so much in the past couple months.
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it continues to drop on the behavior that elon musk is exhibiting at twitter. what's the relationship between him and his car company? >> incredible drop, like more than 60% this year. the automotive sector in general is challenged as we look at macro economic issues ahead. gm and ford haven't fallen that much. there's concern among investors that elon has become distracted. he is at twitter all the time and not paying attention to the core part of tesla. the company faces some real challenges, some headwinds. there's concerns about slowing sales, concerns about demand in places like china, which have been the engine of the company over the years. as he deals with the twitter fire, he has pressure from the
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shareholders at the publically traded company. we have seen that pressure applied to the board of directors, asking where they are and what are they doing with their ceo who doesn't seem to be spending a lot of time on the challenges ahead. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. we have an update for everyone up there. the january 6 committee announcing their final report will be released tomorrow. i hope you didn't have plans to be off. >> reporter: i was going to be here. there's a million other things happening on capitol hill. now we do know the january 6 committee report that we thought was coming today is now likely to be released tomorrow. one of the explanations that we have been given, potentially, is that this could just be the effect of the printer printing. that may be a difficult reason to accept or explain, but that could be one of them. we were talking about it
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earlier. this is a report that they were writing up until the minute they had to stop writing it and send it to the government printer in the first place. we have an idea of what's in this because we had that 150-page executive summary. we know the contours of what we're expecting to find out and the main headlines of the referrals that they sent monday. we did think we were getting the eight chapters and the appendixes that we were hoping to read today. now that sliding to tomorrow. >> somebody is texting you. maybe they are texting you more information. i can hear it buzzing. >> reporter: this is one of those moments. we wait for more information. >> it's that moment. we will wait and see whether this thing actually gets fully printed tomorrow. how many pages it could be. >> reporter: hundreds and hundreds. >> i imagine it's more than hundreds. ali, thank you very much. that's going to do it for
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