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final report by the house january 6th select committee which could come at any moment. the panel is expected to drop a whopping 800 pages that will give a comprehensive and detailed look at how donald trump plotted to overturn his 2020 election defeat and purposefully provoked his supporters with phony conspiracies about widespread voter fraught. this report is a big deem. the committee interviewed more than 1200 witnesses, examined hundreds of thousands of documents, issued more than 100 subpoenas and all of it happened despite efforts from trump and his lackeys to delay and obstruct in every way possible. the committee has begun releasing transcripts from those they conducted. several new ones just this evening. earlier today the committee released the transcript from

their interview with cassidy hutchinson whose bombshell testimony back in june. like how trump urged the secret service to remove magnetometers. or how he tried to grab the steering wheel after being told he could not join supporters at the capitol. when hutchinson said that, he responded we don't want to go there. we don't want to talk about that. keep your answers short, sweet, simple. the less the committee thinks, the better. it will be painless and then you're going to be taken care of, end quote. he said he was -- the night

before her second interview she got a call from mark meadows who said mark wants me to let you know he knows you're loyal and he knows you'll do the right thing tomorrow and that you're going to protect him and the boss. that might not have been the former were boss. there were efforts by donald trump to contact select committee witnesses. we might get the money trail. and julie fancelli, heiress to publix, she was willing to spend $3 million to fund the rally. she gave charlie kirk more than $1 million to bus people to

washington. the other questions surround the police preparedness or lack thereof. they found law enforcement agencies gathered substantial evidence of potential violence at the capitol on the 6th but didn't really touch on why the fbi, capitol police and others didn't do more to update security. i'm joined by tim fox, joy advance and hugo lowell, congressional reporter at the guardian. i want to go down the middle to speak to you. could the lawyers who did that be in legal trouble? >> so right now we've heard cassidy hutchinson's side of the

story. those lawyers may have a side of the story they wish to tell as well. so often, joy, the devil is in the details and learning where the variety in the evidence sometimes indicates that the story is not as strong as it could be. in other words, i don't think we should get too far into it. she tells a compelling story, she backs it up for detamgs. whether there is some form of response i think is uchb knowable. whether or not there's enough to refer to bar grievance proceedings, know one knows. if, in fact, the evidence bears it out should be sanctioned. >> let's talk about the funding aspects of this.

whenever there is, one question is who's ptentially -- >> kirk got 1.25 million. le leks jones 100 md. it looks like this was a well-funded effort. if you are investigating this, how far and deeply do you go into the money aspect of it? >> yeah, joy, i think it really comes down to if you're looking at a conspiracy case, there are two elements that always stick out that speak to their own story. one is communications. we talked about text mess sanls and rely. the second when you see finances.

you look to who is providing any material. that's where these two things, money and communications stand much more on solid ground or climbs. but when you are doing the prosecution, it's very clear what else' -- there haven't been strong enough connects to put together who was communicating to the white house, who was communicating with each other. how close were we to guys in a hotel room in arlington bringing weapons across the river are.

>> hugo, do you know if we'll get some of those answers in the final report? >> the committee is still going to be exhaustive and comprehensive including the a pen did i sees, it will lay out the entire multi-faceted plan trump had to overturn the election which culminated on january th. some of the things like the less glamorous investigation, tracking the money, what warnings the fbi gave to capitol police, if any, and so i think we will see elements of this. i don't think it's the case you're seeing it whitewashed. from the beginning trump was one

of the unifying causes and january th would not have happened. >> i want to come back to you because one thing that has bothered me, is this idea that the phi was getting in bound threat sort of -- there was talk of threats out there on social media. they knew that donald trump himself on december 19th said come to the capitol, it's going to be wild. but there was also much more detailed. i think there's a long history of the police treating the proud boys as friendly, yes. active duty appear to have two groups that had law enforcement

impa think or law enforcement or military mems. now you have an informant, chris crabs, ken flukowski, you had a forminger trump supporter and all of these transcripts indicate the fbi had real warnings there could be violence at the capitol. the how can you explain they didn't prepare with a more robust law enforcement presence, knowing the president was speaking in a different way. >> joy, i think you probably asked me this question a couple dozen times on this show over the last few years. >> i have. >> just some things i would add to this. it's some useful context. i don't know why they didn't have more security. it was in washington, d.c.

we oftentimes forget the district just does not operate with most hours. the next part, they were reacting to the george floyd protestor scenario. they were so afraid to look like they would be appearing at the defensive call toll. morninger 3. the third thing is the way we do domestic terrorism is different than particularly cooked. when you can't do that, you

can't connect the people to see how serious is this threat? the number of tlents, something rio lens is coming town to the two things that i have not even asks and as it or is there two different types. we can't be proactive about policing it. you and i can watch it on our couch. everyone knew it was coming, it was no surprise. with you wanted more police to the internet.

>> what all of this comes down to, i think what trump's defense seems it's going to come down to are free speech issues. you can get up and make an inflammatory issue and say a lot before you've broken lies. the congress wants to be about doing what domestic terrorism and in the context of an interview where people can all say prospective fashion. >> it's clear congress has work to do with investigative tools and proos rouft stats. gus us with, after it occurring,

after the criminal conduct. we need better investigate ga at this tools top deal with it beforehand. for the present time, trump may, that's the question, use this first a meantment there's interesting court. he was a slade. if the goal is to imminently reduce violence and if you have the ability to do that, so here we have him assembled with this crowd. he knows some of them are armed and points to them at the capitol from the sheer of the white house, the other charges

the house committee is con testimony placing, for these charges of obstructsing an official proceeding, that is really squaredly up the middle on the facts. the question is whether doj believes there's enough to got it picked up. we will watch this play out obviously in the coming year. . up next on "the reid out", capitol police officer harry drawn has more. just right. excuse me? aren't you jonathan from tv, that 995 plan? yes, from colonial penn. i love your lifetime rate lock.

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democratically. always great to be here. thank you for being here. >> at the risk of particular you you back. i want to cut to my wonderful director. this is what we heard from law enforcement. >> they have glock-style pistols. >> the subject, weapon on his right hip. he's in the tree. >> more want be to make sure bpe knows they have an elevated threat in the trees outside of constitution avenue. a maga flag facemask, cowboy boots, weapon on the right-hand side of the hip. >> ar-15. >> when you were on with us on monday on the big special you talked about the fact you didn't

have to speculate about how differently a black lives matter presence at the capitol and january state trooper was like. you were there for both. you were working both. you saw the difference, but i wonder about that. i'm always bothered by the idea that that many people came armed toward the capitol and that the capitol police weren't told this is what you could be facing, armed people. reask this again. do you feel that the intel that was coming into the fbi was properly shared with your agency so you could know what was coming? >> when it comes to intel sharing and information sharing and all that stuff, that's not necessarily a rank and file issue. the officers on the ground, they're the ones who just go out there, they're the day-to-day officers you see on the street, around the capitol so the people that make those decisions about the intelligence and the

sharing, you know, the cliche is they're a higher pay grade. >> right. >> that's above my pay grade but what we do need to know if we're dealing with armed individuals. we're the first line of officers that are going to be encountering them. as far as the intel sharing, i'm curious to see what the report says about that because that -- you know, that meets the trickle do you know. i don't know what the mishap was or where the lines of communication were broken. even if they were. but i'll just wait for the report to get that information. >> zb yeah. one of the things we are getting are some of the transcripts. one is testimony from a white house press aide, a deputy press secretary named sarah mathews who she detailed a meeting in

the oval office where he asked them for how you make rhinos do the right thing. they did not want trump to condemn the view owelines that you experienced or other officers experienced because it would, quote, let the media win and about how trump did not want to mention peace or say anything about staying peaceful. what do you make of the idea that you're going through hell. you have white house press aides saying it would let the media win if trump called it off. >> you know what's crazy, looking at all these -- hearing all these transcripts and everything, how deep and how involved so many of the people, elected officials, individuals that were inside the president's inner circle, just how deep it went.

how about let america win, how about let the police win. the media? what the hell. we can't admit that. you've got officers who lost their lives, who lost their livelihood, that can't come back to work, that got their asses beat. we suffered a lot of losses that day. mental health. physical health. y'all talking about letting the media win. these are people's lives you're dealing with outside of the threat of dealing with democracy, you're hurting officers who swore an oath to protect this country to uphold their oaths and y'all are out here talking about letting the media win, y'all should be ashamed of yourself. >> you had to confront and see some of these lawmakers in the hallways who were either saying this was just a normal tourist visit, that it wasn't an insurrection, denying that the violence that you and your

brother officers and sister officers experienced, that resulted in some of them dying literally, do they ever say to you, i'm sorry that i did that? i'm sorry i lied about january 6th? >> there are individuals who walk the hall, not necessarily lawmakers, the capitol community it's a lot of people that work there but it's a small community and majority of the individuals who were there feel bad about what we went through. they thank us for our service. it means a lot. as far as specific members of congress, i haven't been personally approached to say, you know, sorry about that, i haven't. but that's not necessary for me. i don't do my job for recognition or to make people doing the right thing. it's important to defend people's right to say what they feel even if i disagree. even if it's a lie.

however, it's important for other people to inform them. that's not my job as a police officer. my job is to protect you. whether i agree with it or not. the media needs to call out what's a lie and what's not. and the people who healed members accountable do so at the ballot box. that's their job to do so. it's not just one person's job or one entity's job, everybody has a role to play in it and fortunately that day on january 6th we did our job to uphold it and at the ballot box in november, this past november a majority of americans did their part to uphold it also. >> ask well, i will join those who thank you for your service and for all that you do and, you know, if you want to see a police department that treats people respectfully and kindly

when they come onto the capitol, you guys do a great job. thank you, thank you, thank you for all that you do. >> appreciate you, joy. >> appreciate you back. coming up, the great officer, harry dunn. coming up, president zelenskyy makes his case for continued support for america as most republicans make it clear they're just not that into it. we'll be right back. announcer: type 2 diabetes? discover the power of 3 in the ozempic® tri-zone. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. announcer: ozempic® provides powerful a1c reduction. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events

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we defeated russia in the battle for minds of the world. ukrainian courage and american resolve must guarantee the future of our common freedom, the freedom of people who stand for their values. your money is not charity, it's an investment in the global security and democracy that we handle in the most responsible way. [ applause ] >> ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is monumentally historic but not unprecedented. most have referenced winston churchill in 1941. ever since king david kalkawa of the kingdom of hawaii addressed congress in 1874 on a trip that

would set in motion the annexation of his kingdom, they have welcomed leaders. in 1990 nelson mandela addressed congress four years after being freed from an apartheid prison. never mind that mostly republican house members called for a bill refusing his release. in 2015 house republicans blindsided obama to invite benjamin netanyahu. some members openly support the putin line. only 86 of 213 house members attended president zelenskyy's address last night. some who did wouldn't stand for applause lines when they weren't refusing to look up from their phones. among those absent was josh

hawley. here's why he said he skipped it. >> i didn't go to the speech because i didn't want to be part of the photo op when they haven't given us a single piece of accounting on anything they spent. >> insurrection fist bumper josh hawley didn't want to be part of a photo on. yeah, okay, sport. president zelenskyy represents the triumph of democracy and standing up to vladimir putin just as he stood up to our own disgraced president. when donald trump asked zelenskyy to do a favor and investigate biden. matthew, it's great to be here. i thought a lot about it, our morning call this morning we were talking a lot about the

zelenskyy -- zelenskyy as a historical figure and a figure who is wrapped up in all of trump's other council. >> i really hope you and president putin can get together and can solve your problem. that would be a tremendous achievement and i know you're trying to do that. >> i mean, you can see the look on his face. highly contrasted with the look on his face as he finally got the presidential meeting he wanted with joe biden whose son, the right is trying to take down because they want it to be analogous to what trump did to hillary clinton in 2016. it's kind of mind blowing. what do you make of it? >> well, i know you probably agree this was no surprise republicans acted this way in congress. why would they support democracy

4,000 miles away when they don't support it here. why would they support it in another country when they don't support it here? so unfortunately it's not surprising. unfortunately, this has become the standard operating procedure of the republican party which seems more pro-russians than pro-democracy. leaving zelenskyy out to dry like they left any number of secretary of stating in america . >> it's not surprising to me. they said tvs a national security party, opposing the ussr, fighting cold war politics. a lot of the neoconservatives.

they supported liberal social values and a strong stance on russia, on the old soviet union. now you have fox news going all in, mocking zelenskyy. what did tucker call him? a nightclub -- strip club members. the guy's country is at war. this guy is making history as probably the most important european leader in many ways. >> this is -- as you've watched this history, i know you've watched it well, it's not only are they not the president of lincoln anymore, that went off the rails anymore, they're not the president of teddy roosevelt, they're not the party of dwight d. eisenhower, they're

no longer the party of ronald regan. his most famous lines is mr. gorbachev, please tear down this wall. when republicans say america first, what they really mean is democracy last. that's what they mean when they say america first. it's not about our principles anymore and the narrative and common story that all of us have shared about a constitution and the will of the people and a government by and for the people. it is about an inability to push through whatever you want by whatever means necessary in this.

it doesn't surprise me. that's what the republican party has become. >> if ronald regan ran in the republican nomination, he would probably finish fifth or sixth in a republican primary. >> easily. easily. the stuff they're saying on fox is getting replayed on russian state tv. that's how much they love tucker. that's how much they love it. the nra is down with russia. it's a total russian realignment. it's bizarre. let's talk about zelenskyy. one of the theories will why the right hates him is that he stood up to trump and he's the reason trump got impeached. that's one of the problems with him. number one, do you think that might be the case? number two, give us an historical context on where do

you think he lands in terms of the history of this current eastern era? >> the first point is i don't know if they would think that far through. i don't know if they would connect the dots. i don't think it's fundamentally about that. three are supportive of people who exert power and can exert their power by any means necessary. it's much more they like vladimir putin's style of leadership and the way he conducts himself. i think it has less to do with zelenskyy and what they want to emulate here and what donald trump wanted to emulate here. your second question on zelenskyy, he's on a global scale going to go down as one of the most pro democratic, pro american in what our fundamental ideals are than any leader i've

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ten years ago they took over the governor's office. they pushed election laws that made it hard for north carolinans to vote. reverend william barber rose up against such policies in protest. he led a small group of clergy, religious progressives into the legislative building in raleigh. by the summer of 2013 he was leading more than 100,000 people at rallies across the state. the movement came to be known as moral mondays. >> is there anybody that's not going back snp is there anybody that's going to fight out here? are those who believe in freedom

out here? somebody said if they went home we would go away, but we going home right behind them. >> people love an origin story and it's important to know how movements began. perhaps the more important question is how does a movement last? joining me now is bishop william barber who has an even newer title. he's the founding director at yale divinity school where he will prepare the next group of moral leaders. my good brother, tell me what this new institute at yale is going to do? >> well, thank you so much, joy. you know, we won in north carolina. we beat voter suppression, sent home an extremist governor. this center is set to institutionalize my work from the field and prepare a new

generation of leaders to how to do critical reflection, moral articulation, limited action not limited to a partisan analysis. it's going to serve as a training ground for students equipping them with this framework. we're going to introduce public policy and we're going to provide students with opportunities that are practical experiences, social justice. cultivate research at the intersection of theology and public policy. could it be on how to be in fellowship and how to deal out a long term movement. what we believe is the future of our nation, the well-being of its people is not about their first right and democrat

versus republican and -- but right versus wrong and how we began to frame the narrative when we use our deepest -- constitutional bias to examine what it means to be asia society, to be human beings. what it means to be -- all people. >> we are a country where the former president and pay taxes for 20 years. let's be honest, most people don't play -- paychecks is. where poverty is aligned with people not voting. you do have a stratified society where the rich get what they want because they donate lots of money and get a free ride and where the poor peoples campaign is what you run because it's trying to activate people who are without money and without in any ways public policy. >> that's right. we are trying to show the powers at the center. --

the poor peoples campaign, right now in this country, there is not a state where the -- within 3% that poor people do not have at least 1 million persons who are already registered who have not voted. we have this power, this outlet, this moral articulation that can motivate and mold persons to engage is so often lacking. we will have to have conversations and challenges -- piece of public policy. for instance, when are we going to have that conversation and that power is not benign, people die from -- a quarter million a year. 330,000 people died from covid, not from covid but from the lack of health care. what is our deepest moral values love, truthful justice, from the strip scripture, justice and equal protection under the law and the constitution, what does it have to say about the rightness and that wrongs of allowing this

type of reality to exists? this why public -- center is so critical and rooted in deep history. every transformative movement, from abolitionist movement -- the labor movement, the civil rights movement, the peace movement, somewhere in the midst of that, a movement for social security, minimum wage, these movements, these public policy persons and gauging to shift the narrative and push the nation to its better place. >> yeah. we know that you have been very much engaged in leaving that effort in the modern era. thank you very much. bishop william barber, thank congratulations on this new role. thank you very much. still ahead, president biden delivers a heartfelt appear for -- as we prepared to put 2022 in the rearview mirror. stay right there. right there n help your business get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp

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delivered his christmas address. the same day the senate voted to pass a 1.7 trillion dollar government funding bill to avert a holiday shutdown. >> we are sure we are making progress. things are getting better. covid no longer controls our lives. kids are back in school. people are back to work. in fact, more people are working than ever before. americans are building again. find that stillness in the

heart of christmas. it's at the heart of christmas. look into each other, not as democrats or republicans, not as members of team red or team blue, but who we really are. fellow americans. >> it is, as expected, president biden biden in, calling for unity at a time america needs it most. it's a somber time for the president who lost his first wife and infant daughter in a car accident 50 years ago when they were out shopping for a christmas tree. it's partly why empathy defines -- a trait that won him the white house. is a trait that reminds us of what we hold it here and what can be lost, such as loved ones taking by covid, the seizure of the autonomy, even faith that our democracy will survive. we will end tonight with some positive news. we think we all deserve some of that and highlight what the empathy president has accomplished, such as the 10 million new jobs since he took office, the infrastructure law that promises to rebuild roads

and bridges and provide millions of americans with cleaner drinking water and it just passed the budget bill which the president signed and that will provide $600 million to jackson, mississippi, to help with its ongoing water crisis. the president is enjoying successes even in recent days. a special meeting in the holiday season. last week, he's on legislation to codify federal protections for same-sex and interracial marriages in a julius signing ceremony on the south lawn, just days before securing the release of wnba star brittney griner from a penal colony in russia where she spent nearly a year behind bars. love winds, as much as our toxic partisan politics want you to believe otherwise. with that, let's choose enjoy this holiday season. my favorite double entendre, joy is, after all, a revolutionary act. happy holidays to you all. that is the readout. all in with chris hayes starts right now. in with chris hayes starts right now.