♪ i'm hallie jackson in washington and we've got a lot to get to this hour here on msnbc including new information on the number of people killed by that horrific winter storm that has just devastated communities across the country no place harder hit, perhaps, than buffalo western new york buried under several feet of snow we'll talk about the latest there live with that travel nightmare keeping up today for many americans with thousands of flights canceled as we speak

we'll give you an update on that and on the thousands of people without power in washington state after three electrical substations appear to have been attacked as people get together with friends and family over this holiday week, more and more concerns about a rise in cases connected with the triple-demic of flu, covid and rsv. we've got a look at that in just a minute and the future of title 42 in the hands of the u.s. supreme cou court. a look at how the biden administration is getting ready for what could happen next. and we're learning what the january 6th committee learned and what comes next for the doj investigation into the insurrection we're starting with the winter weather that has already killed dozens of people. those freezing temperatures are going to keep up this week look at officials in eerie county, new york they're announcing 12 more people have been killed by that winter weather meaning 25 people in that county alone have died.

nearly 60, 55 total across the country. listen >> now they've settled down on life-saving rescues, they're going to stop people to see if they have emergency travel authorization. if they don't, they're going to ticket them and send them back on their way. >> emergency workers are having a tough time getting to people not just because the roads are tricky to get through even now, but they're blocked in other places from folks try to get out and about. they're asking people to please, please stay home as they have found the bodies of people in cars, even in snow banks i want to bring in jessie kirsch who is live for us in new york, shaquille brewster bring us up to speed on what's happening in western new york this morning. >> reporter: you just underscored at the end there i think something that just illustrates so perfectly the dire situation that we are hearing about from western new york you have people that have been found dead in cars, according to

officials, and also people who are found dead in the street it was a graphic thing to be talking about. but it gives you an idea how dangerous this weather is. i asked the mayor of buffalo last night how people are being found dead having just been potentially standing in the street and then being found later. and he said it appears some people may have ventured out, not realized what was going on, become disoriented or had a medical situation, potentially passing out and passing away in the snow that is what we are dealing with and the governor of new york says this storm is going to go down as the most devastating in the history of buffalo and i was just in buffalo back in november when they had that massive lake effect storm. obviously, those were more localized totals we're looking at a widespread blizzard around that area, close to four feet of snow reported. the governor says there have been wind gusts approaching 80 miles per hour with more than 500 rescues with the help of state police, including, in one

instance, police helping deliver a baby that is the kind of situation we are dealing with there and cleanup, obviously, there's going to be a lot of that in the days ahead from what i've seen in buffalo you can imagine they're probably running out of places to put the snow and are going to begin dump truck moving it to other sites we've heard about the first responders themselves having trouble in the snow and having to get help getting their vehicles out of the way. it is just an utter mess in western new york right now if you hear them talking about historic devastating in an area used to snow, you can imagine the scale of what we're dealing with the frigid temperatures across the country. millions of americans woke up again today to brutal cold and the northwest is dealing with bad weather over the next couple of days and, obviously, that is something that is not going to help the travel situation that we've been keeping an eye on as well, hallie. >> that's for sure thank you very much for that

jessie referenced the travel situation. this situation has had a domino effect for people trying to get home thousands of flights canceled today, shaq. >> reporter: that's exactly right. for far too many people, the travel nightmares are continuing into this monday after the christmas weekend. last check, about 1700 cancellations today alone, more than 3,000 delays at airports across the country ha hallie, yesterday here at chicago o'hare airport, 1 out of every 3 flights were delayed as they were leaving this airport one thing that i've been seeing here is that people are coming in early, they know what to expect, they know that this is a tough travel weekend, one thing that surprised me is i didn't expect them to feel jealous hearing about some of the destinations that they're traveling to you hearabout the struggle tha they have, some people saying this is their fourth day trying to travel. multiple attempts of trying to

get on a plane i want you to just listen to some of the stories i've been hearing this morning >> we just came up the elevator and i was surprised. >> reporter: what got you so surprised? >> all the people. there's a lot of people at the airport here today i don't know i haven't been to the airport in awhile i haven't seen it this crowded. >> i was about to go in security and right -- minutes before i got in line, they canceled my flight due to a technical issue. >> reporter: so you were here at the airport already. >> yeah, i just got to the airport and they sent me a text two minutes ago. >> reporter: so, unfortunately, he then had to go to another line that he estimated was about an hour long to try to see if there are any rebooking options for today to meet his girlfriend at his destination good luck to them. one thing that we're also seeing is that as some people are shifting from traveling to air and hitting the roads, there's some risk there. travel experts are calling tomorrow the worst travel day of the year

they're expecting tomorrow to be the busiest and another busy day on wednesday so you don't have many options expect to start your travel early and to be patient as you're traveling, whatever method you're using, hallie. >> thank you, shaq let's take you out west to tacoma, washington, where people are looking for suspects after a christmas day attack on three electricity substations. they triggered blackouts for more than 14,000 people. you're looking at the substations here three of them breached, vandalized crews are working to get the lights back on this morning but it comes a few weeks after what we saw in north carolina where suspects shot at two substations which put the lights out for three days for folks in that area dana griffin is joining us now this first break-in was reported in the overnight hours leading up to christmas morning. just about 30 hours ago from now. have we learned anything about from officials about these attacks? do we think they're linked

>> we learned about a fourth attack that was reported on christmas day and in every single one of these attacks, there was some sort of vandalism and at one of those substations, there was even a fire. this left at least 17,000 people without power, and most of the power has been restored to those affected homes, but now investigators are trying to figure out who did this and why. this is part of a growing trend that we have seen not only in the pacific northwest, but in north you may remember that we had five attacks in north carolina, oregon, and washington now, energy experts have stressed the need to harden a lot of these power infrastructure facilities because they say that this could be a target for domestic terrorism. investigators in the christmas day attacks are hesitant to call this domestic terrorism because they say they have yet to find a suspect. hallie >> the -- a lot of power utilities around the country had been on a higher alert after

what we saw in north carolina a few weeks ago. in this instance, it's no different. the organization is saying that federal law enforcement alerted this month, hey, people need to step up security basically there could be attacks, et cetera do we know how that played out here >> so it's unclear if they took any immediate steps following that fbi memo. but investigators say that they are increasing their security and they said they're going to do that especially around the holidays again, some have called for these facilities to be hardened, but one expert says that that is going to be extremely expensive and really tough to do so it will be interesting to see what happens in the wake of these recent attacks hallie >> thank you, very much. still ahead on the show, more gifts than ever expected to be returned in the days ahead. we're live with how some retailers have new rules if that's something that you are thinking about doing first, a lot of the country dealing with three viruses, not one, but three

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a lot of people have been getting together with family over this holiday week you probably are among that group. but this is creating some new concerns from public health experts because the next few weeks could mean a turning point in the fight against three big respiratory viruses. of course, covid, the flu and rsv. sam brock has more on this potentially fragile situation. >> reporter: the fragility of this situation is top of mind. we've seen these wave of infections energized by the holidays for the last two weeks, holiday numbers have been dipping. there are signs right now that covid is really starting to gain traction, meaning that you and your family need to be careful >> it's the most wonderful time of the year to see family, but unfortunately the holidays have

proved fertile ground for transmitting viruses and many americans are all too aware. >> i'm vaccinated and boosted and even got the flu vaccine >> we try to be safe try not to see a lot of people during this time so we can be with our loved ones. >> reporter: those all-important get to gets are coming at a time when hospitalizations for the flu have fallen for two consecutive weeks. seasonal activity remains high according to the cdc and covid infections are beginning to gather steam. over the last two weeks, covid hospitalizations are up 7% and deaths 15% the places with the biggest change in hospitalized patients span the map from delaware, d.c. and new hampshire in the east to louisiana in the south and wyoming in the west where the figure has jumped more than 40% in a week. in miami's largest health care system, jackson health this chief medical officer says there's been a significant uptick in patients just in recent weeks. >> we saw covid was in the

teens, maybe, three, four, weeks ago. it was relatively low. we saw that number jump up to the mid to high 90s about a week ago or so. >> reporter: and with americans crisscrossing the country, many finding weather and coughs the best option maybe to assume those who travel around in the next couple of weeks are sick. >> reporter: on the return trip home and also in the first few days going back to school and work, what kind of advice do you have for people. >> if you're traveling, make sure you're wearing a mask it's better if you wear a mask and have your vaccine. if you can travel it during a less busy time, that's a good idea as well. >> experts say getting a flu shot or a covid booster could make a big difference. now the flu vaccine covers four different strains which is also to say that if you've been infected this season, you're not protected from getting the flu again. listen to your doctors, listen to your parents, get the vaccine. in miami, sam brock, nbc news.

>> thanks to sam for that report what do you do if you want to protect your family and kids let me bring in dr. natalie azar it's good to see you on a holiday week thank you. we talk about the triple-demic a lot, covid, flu, rsv is the biggest concern to you now the covid piece of it? >> perhaps concerning, yes, not really surprising, right, and i think it's encouraging that we've seen the flu numbers dropping but i think we're confident that we can expect a bump in cases of probably all three respiratory illnesses after the holidays because of people gathering and i think a cautionary note, one to highlight what sam already said about the fact that if you've had flu once, that doesn't mean that you're, you know, out of the possibly of getting it again there are, you know, four strains that are covered in the flu shot and another thing i

think people sometimes don't realize, hallie, is that we saw a spike in the type "a" viruses and strains circulating for flu. we see a lull, and a spike in influenza "b" in the spring. not too late to get vaccinated we'll say that until march and april, believe it or not. >> what are you telling your patients when they're coming in and saying i'm getting together with family, i'm worried about how long we're contagious for. is it a cold, the flu, how do you give advice? >> i think the first thing i say to folks, you have to do an assessment of your own risk and for those around you and you really should be guided in your behavior by the most vulnerable person in your household. that would be a newborn that someone just had or it could be an elderly grandparent the other thing to do is to make sure that you're doing everything that you can to protect again those that are most vulnerable. that means everybody in your household who is eligible for

vaccinate should be vaccinated and that includes kids as young as six months are eligible for that covid shot, hallie. and i think people need to prioritize we're already sort of in the middle of the holiday season right now. but that might mean cutting back on certain activities and not going to every single party that you're invited to. and i think the most important thing is to lay low in terms of your exposures if you're able to go see someone in a couple of days and do that rapid testing on the day that you're about to see someone who potentially is more vulnerable. don't just rely on a pcr three or four days prior to getting together with someone and going about your business. a lot of the stuff we've drilled into people in the last couple of years, hallie, and i know we all wished that it was kind of, you know, behind us. but all of those principales tht we've been talking about, all of this applied this season, especially this season, as we've seen this surge in respiratory viruses. >> in all of my group chats and

a lot of folks i know which are pictures of store shelves empty where the children's tylenol used to be what is your level of concern about those being at least hard to get how should parents be thinking about that it feels like it's at that moment where, are you going to stock up it's tough to find places to stock up and you're holding it just in case you need it, which isn't a good thing either. what should people do? >> a couple of things to keep in mind number one, i don't say this as a cop-out answer if there's any time to speak to your pediatrician, now is the time there are a lot of things you can do to manage that, quote/unquote, empty store shelf. you can use generic versions of the drugs. there's another brand that makes tylenol and ibuprofen. we don't have to keep on going with tylenol and advil and motrin

if your child is two and above, they can use a chewable. if your child is 11 or 12, that's a good time to start taking a tablet or capsule i always want to stress for your parents, if your child is under three months old, any fever needs to get reported to the pediatrician you don't want to manage that at home but for older children, if they're eating and drinking and they have a low-grade fever, you don't necessarily have to treat it and the last thing if i can, i will leave parents with this, don't use multisymptom cold medicine to get that fever down. a lot of the medicines are not appropriate for young children don't start cutting an adult tablet to figure out and do a conversion on your own please seek guidance from your pediatrician before you would give an adult dose to a young child. >> really good advice. thank you for being with us on this monday morning. appreciate it. coming up next on the show, border states in this country getting ready for a bigger

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it has now been ten months since the start of the russian war on ukraine ten people killed over the weekend because of russian air strikes. president zelenskyy sending his message of defiance through all of it, saying ukrainians can get

through this cold and dark winter because they know what they're fighting for they're fighting for their own freedom. matt bradley is live from kyiv give us the latest here. >> reporter: the big news today is that the russians announced that three of their soldiers had been killed when an ukrainian drone attacked a russian base not here in ukraine but deep, deep into russia that was an interesting development. this is the engles air base. it's been used for staging flights. missions that have been moved over the past couple of weeks to attack electricity infrastructure in ukraine. this was retaliation now the russians have said that what happened was they shot down the drone and falling debris killed those three soldiers. this is the second time that this has happened in a month and what we're seeing here is that the ukrainians didn't acknowledge that they had done this attack. they have a policy of almost

never accepting responsibility for attacks that are launched into russia proper but this is really just to show that the ukrainians are capable time and time again and they've been doing this since the beginning of the war of striking targets inside russia proper and that's something that as we start to see the ukrainians possible in the coming weeks or months make more advances on the battlefield, we could start to see more and more attacks targeting, again, targets inside ukraine. especially targets like this air base that are used to launch attacks that have been crippling electricity infrastructure and hurting civilians and killing civilians inside ukraine so this is an important development today, and it's one that when we heard from president zelenskyy talking about how we can expect more and more attacks over the coming week well, this is something we can expect a retaliation from russia because they're hue miliated by

attacks like these. >> you spent the holiday with ukrainians there tell us about that >> reporter: yeah, i mean, you know, this is something that we keep seeing over and over again. these are ukrainians who are experiencing hardship. they're seeing the front lines in their own houses, in the home front. because like i said a moment ago, all of these russians bombardments, one thing that they have in common is that they're hitting electricity infrastructure so that household that i just spent -- it was actually two households one of them, their electricity was out and we're seeing that all around this city you can see some lights that are on here. a lot of the power has been restored in kyiv but a lot of ukrainians spent their christmas or ate their christmas dinner by candle light. it's like zelenskyy said to congress a couple of days ago, it's not because it's romantic, it's because they have to, the power has been going out over and over again i got to tell you, hallie, the spirit that i've been seeing among ukrainians is really

palpable and it helps that they're winning -- or they feel like they're winning they're making advances on the battlefield. they haven't in the past couple of weeks when you talk to folks, they don't necessarily feel demoralized, even though they're feeling the impacts of the car in their personal lives. for them, they feel such a strong sense of camaraderie with soldiers who are on the front lines, they really feel as though they're fighting on the front lines from the home front. and it's something -- an at the that permeates every aspect of live here. >> thank you so much for that reporting and bringing it to us. appreciate it. back to home, the criticism this morning from the white house, angry criticism after texas governor greg abbott bussed more than 100 people to the vice president's house here in d.c. on christmas eve one of the coldest nights of the year here. for thousands of people who crossed into the u.s. at the southern border, it means having nowhere to go in these freezing temperatures some of them sleeping on the

streets during the winter storms julie tsirkin joins us now what's the latest? >> reporter: we've been talking all day about just how cold this christmas was for most of americans, imagine spending it outside. that's what happened to multiple bus lodads of migrants who were sent from texas to washington, d.c., unfortunately, the only people helping them really are local communities, churches, local community centers. we saw from our reporters in texas with migrants in el paso, that was the similar case there. particularly to migrants who came here illegally, who don't have passes to go to shelters, per se so i want to read you a piece of what the white house had to say about this move to d.c. on saturday night they said governor abbott abandoned children on the side of the road in below freezing temperatures on christmas eve without coordinating with any federal or local authorities this was a cruel, dangerous and shameful stunt this isn't the first time we've seen migrants bussed from states

with republican governors. this happened multiple times migrants being bussed from florida, texas, to cities like new york and d.c., predominantly democrat-controlled cities these governors saying they're sending a message because of how overrun the border has been, especially for the last couple of months and it's only getting worse. hallie. >> talk about the timeline of the title 42 policy that the supreme court is currently weighing do we know anything else about that >> look, the supreme court is currently tied up there. this is the policy under former president president trump. it allowed border agents to turn away migrants for covid reasons, for issues of public safety surrounding the pandemic so the biden administration, though, they want publicly the supreme court to end this policy, they want it to be rekrep

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some hardy shoppers this morning hitting the malls braving the malls and shopping websites again hoping to score post-christmas deals and try to get a jump on the holiday returns. navigating all of that could be a little bit more complicated this year with shorter return periods, even some fees to restock by some big places let me bring in now brian cheung brian, talk about some of the changes people should expect and what you've seen are there any deals to be had or did the black friday, cyber monday throw it out. give us a sense. >> reporter: i'm seeing 50% off, 60% off in some places a lot of people are here to make

returns. the estimate coming from the national retail federation that americans are expected to return $171 billion in merchandise just this holiday season. i spoke with some new jerseyan who are making those returns today. take a listen to what they told us earlier today >> i didn't want to come i was working out. she called me, she says, let's go to the mall, get this thing over with before it gets crowded. that's what we did. >> reporter: with the return policy, did you have to read the fine print did you notice anything about -- >> no. because before i purchase something, i ask what my return policies are and try to keep it to the limit this way i don't want a problem. >> reporter: the bag that you are holding, these are the returns or you're going to return. >> we returned some already. we're on our way to do a few more. >> reporter: share with me exactly what. >> we were lucky to find the uggs that everybody wanted but we got them in a size too big.s christmas in our house

we did macy's, nordstrom, sephora. >> reporter: you have a list already? >> we have a whole list. >> reporter: the challenge, though, is that all of those returns are happening at a time when 60% of retailers have changed their return policy according to go trg. i want to highlight some return policies that you might be thinking about this holiday season when you think about amazon, best buy, apple, and also walmart so you can return if you bought during the holiday window as late as january 31st for electronics, it's a shorter window at best buy, you can return as late as january 14th, and apple you can only return as late as january 8th. remember the date that you purchased the goods as well as the date you're trying to return them. >> smart advice. enjoy the mall thank you very much. we bring in now linette lopez. talk about inflation we know it did have an impact on

people's behavior to some degree, but people still went out and bought a lot of gifts this holiday. >> i think american consumers are still going to do their thing. they're going to stay strong, keep buying stuff and because of the weirdness of the supply chain issues we have due to covid, a lot of the goods that they were going to buy for christmas, they're going to just keep getting cheaper and cheaper. we had a lot of backlogs in retail while things couldn't get over the ocean so i suspect that retailers will be in kind of a seller mood. maybe farther into this season than we expect amazon had two black fridays, it's just -- yes, there's inflation in some goods. we're seeing inflation in food still and services but when it comes to the some of the goods that people want to buy for their loved ones, things have -- that supply chain has

strengthened out significantly since the pandemic. >> you mention the concept of two black fridays. that some retailers did. talk to us about the landscape after christmas now. this is sometimes a week where things are slashed off major sales, et cetera, is that the expectation this year? >> absolutely. i think that, you know, we're in this weird economy where, yes, prices are going up, but employment is going up too we're kind of wishy-washy on our optimism for what's coming up next nobody has any answers but usually what americans do when they don't know what to do is shop. that's what we have going for us we'll continue to see prices go down and, you know, gas prices continuing to fall, that's also a plus for americans in their pocket we'll see how -- we'll see how the shaking out of inflation chugs long with the fed raising

rates. it's going to be a slower process than it was this past year maybe that will be helpful to consumers as well. >> what about returns? we saw an estimate of 18% of stuff is going to be returned. is that average? is that more or less >> i don't know. i've never really looked into this kind of stuff i assume, you know, returns are -- have become even more -- they've become more popular ever since we started online shopping and not exactly trying things on the way we used to there's been an increase in returns since that -- i don't know what to consider normal or abnormal for that. and that's up -- and that's for retailers to deal with, not necessarily customers. what the stock market and what retailers and companies around the country are faced with next year is that -- is margin compression, right we bought a lot of stuff during the pandemic and, you know, we paid for things in -- maybe we

didn't want all of them, whatever, confusing times. but that -- this year, probably won't be as great for retailers as long year they're going to deal with that however they can >> thank you very much good to see you. appreciate you being with us on this holiday monday. fort myers, florida, faced pictures, scenes of absolute devastation from hurricane ian you have this community rebuilding and celebrating this holiday season the best way they can. kerry sanders has that story >> reporter: this sheriff landed on fort myers beach. >> a lot of progress. >> reporter: where three months ago, hurricane ian destroyed much of this community >> this is ground zero hurricane ian. we landed our helicopter one hour after the storm and you couldn't walk one foot here without walking over debris. >> reporter: the breach front usually backed with snow birds, empty. >> when you look around, just yards away from here, we're

looking at debris. but the christmas spirit is here >> reporter: the bar and grill like a majority of the businesses on the strip is gutted a makeshift kitchen in the parking lot works for now. >> it's going to be definitely different. but we're alive and we're very thankful >> you should bring him to headquarters. >> reporter: they had a surprise for sebastian and his mom. >> this is all for you, buddy. >> to see the residents come together at every level and everyone helping for the better cause, that leaves me more speechless ♪ >> neighbors turning her home into santa's workshop through facebook connections and countless donations. >> i love christmas. >> reporter: she's bringing joy to 30 families >> they lost everything, so i've gotten everything from bicycles, $500 worth of gift cards

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one of the biggest stories this year has been the investigation into the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol by the u.s. select committee we've seen the final report. katy tur looks back at what the committee uncovered during the investigation and what's next. >> what happened on january 6th, 2021, played live and unedited across all networks at the same time meaning all of us saw the same thing, trump mobs beating up police officers, vandalizing the u.s. capitol, ransacking the floors of the senate, free of political spin or reimagination. but that was then. and by 2022, the events of that day had gotten fussier, muddied up by bipartisanship so the committee made it their

task to sharpen the country's memory and to prove who was to blame. >> you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength and you have to be strong. >> reporter: in nine televised hearings, the january 6th committee set out to make their case >> president trump summoned the mob, assembled the mob and lit the flame of this attack. >> reporter: using recorded depositions from the people who were there donald trump's own team. >> there are suggestions by i believe it was mayor giuliani to declare victory. >> it was far too early to be making any calls like that >> what they were proposing i thought was nuts. >> his own aides and advisers. >> he said dead people are voting, indians are getting paid to vote.

>> reporter: his cabinet members and his own family. >> i made it clear, i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff, which i told the president was bull [ bleep ]. >> i expect attorney general barr, so i accepted what was saying. >> reporter: all describing what happened in their own words, and making it clear that right from the beginning, donald trump was told the truth >> i thought, if he believes this stuff, he has, you know, lost contact with -- he's become detached from reality. >> reporter: but donald trump was so adamant about staying in power, the committee showed he would try to overturn the election >> only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged remember that. >> he tried to do it through lawsuits 61 cases lost, half thrown out n. no instance did a court find that the charges of fraud were

real. >> he tried to do it through presh other than the states. leaning on officials. >> so, look, all i want to do is this i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> there were no votes to find that was an accurate count that had been certified. >> i told president trump he would not do anything illegal for him. >> i did both times >> and spreading lies about individual election workers. >> there is nowhere i feel safe. nowhere. do you know how it feels to have the president of the united states to target you >> when neither the states nor the courts would bend he tried to do it through his doj. >> he responded very quickly and said, well, i'm just asking to you do, just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen. >> demanding the election be

declared a fraud pushing to seize voting machines and trying to install a loyal ag. >> did every assistant attorney general you spoke to as you said agree to resign? >> all without hesitation said they would resign. >> with time running out, trump tried his vice president, demanding he refuse to certify the election on january 6th. >> mike pence, i hope you are going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country, and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you. i will tell you right now. >> and when vice president pence officially refused, the committee argued trump tried to do it by unleashing his masses. >> we're going to walk down and i'll be there with you. >> in a protest the panel said trump knew would get out of hand. >> the confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi the proud boy wos have killed mike pence if give an chance. >> i'm hearing reports that pence caved. i'm telling you, if pence caved

we're going to drag the mother [ bleep ] through the streets! >> heard it here first mike pence has betrayed the united states of america >> [ bleep ]. >> all: hang mike pence, hang mike pence >> i heard the president say something to the effect of i don't efing care they have weapons. let my people in they can match the capitol from the here. >> and even planned to join. >> the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab the steering wheel mr. engle grabbed his arm said, sir you need to take your hand off the steeri ing wheel we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then use tz his free hand top lunge towards bobby engel. >> back at the white house how donald trump stayed silent unmoved by images of bloody

police gallos erected on the lawn, pleas from republican lawmakers to say something and do something. >> mr. president, you have got to stop this. >> i heard my phone ringing, turned the shower off. saw it was leader mccarthy who i will a good verelationship with. he said, please, anything can you do to help, i appreciate it. >> i already talked to the president. i talked him i think we need to make a statement. make sure that we can calm individuals down. >> unmoved for 187 minutes, until 4:17 p.m >> i know your pain. i know you're hurt we had an election that was stolen from us i know how you feel. but go home and go home in peace. >> in the end, vice chair liz cheney said president trump knew the patriotism of his supporters and he knew the loyalty he

inspired and he preyed on that loyalty turning their love of country into a weapon against out of capitol and our constitution. >> what happens when the president disregards the court's ruling as illegitimate where he disregards the rule of law that, my fellow citizens, breaks our republic. >> during the committee's final meeting they unanimously voted to make four criminal reacherefl to the doj for the form e president, inciting an insurrection, obstructing a official proceeding, making false statements and defrauds the united states. the investigation now is in the hands-of-special counsel jack smith. >> our thanks to katy tur noor reporting. that does it for me. i'm hallie jackson see you later on our nbc news streaming channel nbc "news now" for another show later tonight, but chris jansing picks up right after this quick break with more

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good day i'm chris jansing in new york and right now on msnbc no answer yet to title 42 troubles as migrants are dumped on the vice president's doorstep a major supreme court decision on the future of immigration policy could come at any time. house and politicians are leveraging the issue.