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tv   Chris Jansing Reports  MSNBC  December 26, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PST

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good day i'm chris jansing in new york. right now on msnbc, americans are digging out from one of the worst storms in recent memory. at least 55 people have been killed, and snow is stim falling in parts of the midwest, snarling post-holiday travel and stranding passengers, in some cases, for days. plus, officials once again sounding the alarm about a growing tripledemic that a lot of people seem to be trying to ignore in the past two weeks alone, covid-related hospitalizations are up 7%, deaths up 15% what might holiday gatherings being for overworked hospital staffs it is now up to the justice department and special counsel jack smith does the final report provide a road map to prosecution? we start with the deadly winter storm the nationwide death toll climbing to 55 many of those in new york's
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hard-hit erie county officials announcing 12 more deaths from the blizzard today >> i have very sad news to report that, in addition to the 13 confirmed deaths yesterday, the erie department county of health medical examiners office has confirmed 12 deaths bringing the total to 25 deaths countywide and right now this storm is creating more headaches for travelers with 2,000 flights canceled today jesse kirsch is in new york city for us and angie lassman is back with us i think southwest airlines has canceled hundreds of flights how are being dealing with all of this travel chaos where you
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are? >> reporter: well, folks are kaoulg me they are bringing ribik's cube, books. overwhelmingly, patience is required today if you look at the numbers today alone, just in the past couple of minutes, there are more than 2 thoeurbgs 500 flight cancellations. more than 4,000 flight delays across the country again, just today alone. that is not including lines like the one behind me here at chicago o'hare airport one in three flights that took off yesterday were delayed you get a sense of some of the pain people are dealing with i want you to take a listen to what they have been telling me about their experience >> it looks like a zoo it's a complete and utter zoo, chaos. crazy. >> i haven't been to the airport in a while but i haven't seen it this crowded >> we ended up on a charter. the only way to get here
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>> charter a flight. >> it was a nightmare. planes, trains and automobiles >> on christmas day. >> all of it bad >> all of it >> reporter: and a lot of issues that folks are dealing with is because of what we saw over the course of the weekend. this weekend, 6,000 flights canceled what happens then is most of those people have to rebook onto new flights as airports and airlines are dealing with already busy travel schedule it creates a pain. that as people shift from the air to the roads you're also dealing with a lot of travel. experts are calling tomorrow the worst travel day of the year there's a lot of congestion expected so, again, bottom line, if you are flying, show up early and be ready and be patient >> tomorrow when i happen to be flying, the worst travel day of the year thank you for that, shaq jesse, officials calling this a once in a lifetime blizzard. just how dangerous is the
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situation in buffalo now, jess >> reporter: chris, the governor of new york calling this the most devastating storm in the history of buffalo and, according to officials in erie county where buffalo is located, this storm is deadlier in that community than the blizzard of '77, which has lived on in the lure of snowstorms in buffalo, which is of course a community that is very familiar with bad winter weather. the governor says that state police have been involved in over 500 rescues, including in one situation even helping to deliver a baby the governor also deploying 400 members of the national guard saying there are wind gusts approaching 80 miles per hour, just below 80 miles per hour with close to four feet of snow falling in buffalo we have seen some signs of hope coming out of what has unfortunately been a deadly storm as well. an american couple telling us when a group of korean tourists and their driver got stuck on the side of the road outside their home, they welcomed them in, sheltered them and fed them
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for two nights these groups now apparently seeing each other as new family, able to spend some time with new loved ones on the holidays so a sign of hope coming out of buffalo. but no question this is a community that is devastated and has a long road of cleanup ahead. chris. >> jesse, thank you for that so, angie, a lot of that is about these bitter cold temperatures having grown up on lake erie, i know what lake-effect snow is. but it was cold this past week and some of the winds, the way they were howling were actually scary. how is it looking now? >> a lot better in both those regards. the temperatures are on a rebound. we will see nem improve dramatically the next couple days to the point where many folks will be 20, 30 degrees above normal a big temperature swing. the arctic air is in place for the eastern half of the country. cincinnati, well below normal coming into the mid-30s today.
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birmingham, you will make it to the 50s. check out denver remember a couple of days ago when we were talking about a 70-degree temperature swing in denver with the arctic air pushing in we have rebounded. we're back into the low 60s. it gives you an indication where we are going to go temperatures will end up in the 70s in the deep south. earlier today they were dealing with freeze watches and warnings the northeast, buffalo, new york city, we will get back into the 50s. and it will happen just in time for this upcoming holiday weekend. that's good news there the whole eastern half of the country will be warmer than average. then we turn our attention the next couple of days to this next storm system impacting folks on the west coast the pacific storm is working onshore. this is one of a couple we will see move in. the bpwbig picture with this is there is heavy rain and we could see the potential for flooding along the coast. it will work into the intermountain region and bring the potential for heavy snowfall
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as well, extending into southern california folks in los angeles oftentimes don't get a lot of rain. they will see rain working through their area of course this is a positive when it comes to helping the drought. we know there's fires in many areas and the burn scars could lead to potential with flooding. we will continue to watch the potential for flooding along the coast from seattle down to san francisco. we could be looking up to three feet in places like the sierras, cascades another storm system to watch. the good news, chris, the eastern half of the country will finally get to thought out >> angie, how many weather hits do you think you have done today? >> give or take 20 or 30 we'll see how it ends up >> we appreciate you thank you for that very much angie lassman. and extreme weather isn't will only concern this holiday season experts are warning about cases of covid, flu and rsv.
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the tripledemic is filling up hospitals at a frightening rate. nbc's sam brock has nor. >> reporter: this christmas, families are looking to exchange presents, not illness as they intersect. >> they're indoors people are hugging so people are getting sick and getting infections from each other >> reporter: the last two weeks, covid-related hospitalizations are up 7% and deaths up 15%. chief medical officer is keeping an eye on covid hospitalizations at miami's jackson health, one of the largest health care systems in the country >> it has quadrupled, to the mid to high 90s. >> reporter: at the hospitals that make up the texas medical center, those numbers are also rising covid doubling between mid-november and mid-december. at mt. sinai in new york, they were also up sizably as globally cases are surging. >> china is seeing an influx of
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cases. does that create fertile ground for another variant to affect us in the u.s >> we certainly saw it with covid, alpha, delta, omicron when the next strains come, we will go back to the science and see if we can develop monoclonal antibodies to treat us >> reporter: experts say there are steps you can take to stay safe assume you are flying with passengers who are sick. so mask up covid tests before returning to work or school keep medications handy >> i'm buying fever reducer for my nurses because my sister can't find any. >> reporter: as numbers are slowly creeping down, the holidays present a massive test. sam brock, miami i want to bring in v. vin gupta, affiliate, assistant professor with the institute for health metrics and evaluation and msnbc medical contributor.
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great to see you, vin. it feels like we have been talking about the tripledemic for months now where are we, beginning, middle or end >> reporter: chris, great to see you. happy holidays to you. we are at the halfway point for cold and flu season. right now where we're at, rates are plateauing we think maybe they're coming down hospitalizations at this point in cold and flu season, the highest rate in the decade rsv has peaked a high level and covid on the uprise. we expect middle of january, 6,000 to 8,000 deaths well into february >> so how concerned are you that the situation in strained hospitals that we have been hearing about is only going to get worse after the holidays >> reporter: well, chris, with we have a 10% to 20% based on the state nursing shortage intensive care doctors, we don't have enough of them. we have a health care shortage
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covid compounded that. we are expecting 17 states, florida, louisiana and california to express some degree of stress in their hospital capacity. a lot of this depends how much people get vaccinated for flu a. maybe the flu vaccine rates have taken a hit given covid, pandemic fatigue how many people protect themselves with the tools we have available will determine how many states, how many hospitals in those states will undergo a significant strain >> so there is a headline in the "new york times" that caught my eye. they called it the last holdouts, people still wearing masks. look, we're all sick of them but from a public health standpoint, should we be wearing them and, if so, under what circumstances? >> chris, this is controversial. if a health system, take children's hospitals, iffer they are stressed and boarding
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children in the emergency rooms, and turning some kids away, that should be something we do not accept in those communities we should be masking back up again that's something health care leaders should be stepping up and saying that mandates need to come back in place if that is occurring ier, it's unpopular. of course one-way masking is helpful. k-95will protect the wearer. if we're all mask anything a school setting or grocery sheing, we sh setting, we are all protected. >> dr. tkpwaoup tax i hope you and yours had a wonderful holiday. appreciate it. we are staying on top of all the winter storm developments and recovery throughout the day. later this hour i will be talking with the mayor of buffalo, new york, where residents faced historic and deadly blizzard conditions but first, best seller it took less than 24 hours for copies of the january 6th
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as the january 6th report changed the political landscape? check out best sellers list on amazon its release coinciding with a weekend we already knew would be important for potential 2024 candidates mulling their political futures with the family but are they any closer to making the decision? i want to bring in julie from capitol hill, josh letterman at the white house, mario parker, national politics editor on the bloomberg news and barbara mcquaid, former
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attorney and msnbc legal analyst. mario, folks like former south carolina governor nikki haley, larry hogan, mike pence, the former vice president, they have all said they are going to be looking at the holidays. what do you imagine the conversations are like it's not just their families it's advisers, donors. >> no. absolutely i think the fact that they're even having these conversations right now is pretty remarkable, right? six weeks ago this was unheard of when former president trump announced the third white house bid. look no further than nikki haley. she said if her former boss would run, she wouldn't run. the fact that she is having this conversation is saying a whole lot where they are in the process. >> if you are thinking about entering the 2024 race, was
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there something in that report, is there something we know doj is doing that might make a potential challenger to donald trump, say, i'm a little more likely to get in >> if you are thinking about getting into this race you feel emboldened by what's in the report it seems more more likely that we will see charges. not because of the report. i don't think they will be nudged by anything the committee has to say they will make their own decision but the facts that have now been revealed suggest the doj is looking at the same facts. those are so damning i think charges have become very likely. donald trump certainly loves to play the victim. his grievances to his advantage. i'm sure he will use it to stoke resentment in his base for moderate republicans, they will be turned off by the findings of the committee and may find some of the other
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candidates more attractive >> i think we thought trump's base was trump's base and there wasn't very much that could happen it sort of wasn't already baked in but there are some indications, aren't there, that his base may be shrinking >> yes, absolutely i think part of that was in the commentary from liz cheney where she said prosecutors were looking at some of the evidence laid out by the january 6th committee as are voters, right and i think that clause, that last clause shows maybe 30% of the gop base that has been rock solid you're starting to see a little weakness there. you heard mitch mcconnell say he's politically weakened as well he is losing some of that political altitude he had six, seven weeks ago. >> what are president biden's plans for 2024 we saw him decorating the christmas tree with the first lady is there any inkling at all that
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he is even considering a one and done >> all signs are a go. the president said he fully intends to run again his chief of staff said he expects the president to run again. now, the president hasn't formally pulled that trigger once he declares himself a candidate, that would trigger legal and reporting requirements i'm not sure they see a huge advantage of him jumping into the race this early. it's not like we are hearing any kind of significant or viable democ democratic primary intentions. we know the president has a long history of making this decision with his family. in fact,, the biden's typically have a big family gathering where they sit down, talk about the pros and the cons of whether he should enter a particular political race we don't know whether that meeting has happened sort of in a formal way
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the president has been spending quite a bit of time with the family both in nantucket over thanksgiving he has been at the white house the last several days. those kinds of discussions about what the future will look like are probably taking place. but we do know that any doubts or skepticism that the white house had about the political hand that the president would have going into a potential re-election, a lot has been ameliorated of victories that occurred over the last few months and they feel if they are going to head into a re-election campaign which, again, all signs indicate they will, like they are doing so coming from a strong basis >> and, julie, the presidential isn't the only drama in 2024 there are critical contested senate seats a lot of democratic incumbents jacky rosen, tammy baldwin there are questions about jon
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tester, whether he will run for re-election, whether congressman gallego is going to challenge kyrsten sinema, who became an independent just a short time ago. how wild is the 2024 senate landscape? >> well, coming off his win, i asked majority leader schumer about president biden. because the president wasn't on the ballot this year in two years he will be potentially if he decides to run. schumer told me it will be helpful to our candidates if he decides to do that now, 23 of 33 seats in the senate are actually held by democratsment to make that even scarier, more than a handful have not decided whether they will jump in like you mentioned, using the christmas holiday to potentially do so. i asked what he is thinking right before he went into this break. he said he will have a decision for us after christmas, not necessarily they will announce it that early but that he will
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have made one. you have joe manchin, who is also leaving the door open to potentially leaving the democratic party he's up in 2024. he did make note that former president trump swept the state by 40 points when you look at ruben gallego, who wanted to run for senator sinema's seat, he was over capitol hill on the senate side, showing his face to leadership, to those who will be tasked with ushering along and supporting potentially a challenger to cinema now that she has left the democratic party he told me that is a decision he is preparing for he's building a team he's making all the right decisions and taking all the right steps. it's a big open question for these especially vulnerable democrats in the senate if they can hold on to it like they did this year. that will be senate magic in '24. >> much tougher landscape. barbara, i don't want to go
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without mentioning a couple of things that happened while people were maybe otherwise occupied with their turkey dinners. in arizona, two election deniers lost in court of the long holiday weekend. kari lake lost and so did the man who ran to be the state's attorney general is there a clear message here? look, you can file anything you want but if you lose, the courts are going to uphold the decision of the voters >> yeah. i think one of the real keys to pushing back against donald trump's efforts to steal the election was 61 out of 62 courts that completely rejected his legal claims the one claim he won was not involving fraud. it was provisional ballots we are seeing that continue against election deniers like those in arizona so i think the courts seem to be perhaps, at least at this
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under bombardment at times and alone. >> i'm sort a last mile guy in a lot of places. >> reporter: roughly speaking, do you have a sense of how many evacuations you've done since you have been here >> reporter: dozens and dozens and dozens surely more than 100 i'm bad at counting. >> reporter: all of these videos are brad's snapshots few back home could imagine. next door to an evacuation that happened recently. >> this was brad's thanksgiving. >> hello
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at nightfall, a call came from eastern bakhmut. he was back to begin one of his most daring rescues. hello. 69-year-old tatiana was desperately trying to save her husband, valentine, who was injured in an explosion. she tried to stop the bleeding with tourpb kits he tried carrying him on his back but couldn't do it alone. so he pulled him down every step to the temporary safety of his toyota land cruiser. finally, after a harrowing d drive, they made it to a hospital there was little time to spare
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today tatiana is in western ukraine. the memories of that night still haunt her except for one >> translator: suddenly, out of nowhere, a voice on the street hey, hey, hey. a yell >> reporter: her husband of 48 years is alive and she says it's only because of brad. >> translator: he is an unream hero unreal he is just an angel. i'm serious. it is impossible for a person. it is impossible for an ordinary person i just thought an angel had come >> brad is still in easter ukraine. did you expect to be here this long >> no, i did not probably would have already been back by now. >> and he says he's not going anywhere >> there are not a lot of people who come in and go back out. >> i feel on the hook. i keep looking at the need
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i keep looking at the grief. i look at the freezing cold. animals, the medical injuries. and on and on and on >> our thanks to allison for bringing us that story i want to bring in director at the white house and senior adviser at human rights first lieutenant general ben hodges. it's good to have both of you here so, general, there you have one american doing what he can do, right? but give us the picture, we're in month 10. how is the crisis in ukraine >> chris, of course it's huge. what's interesting and poignant is the whole world has been watching it every day and night as reporters from your network and others show us every day the suffering of people, the relentless targeting of innocent civilians and civilian infrastructure by kremlin
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forces this is something that we're going to be dealing with for many years helping ukraine and the people of ukraine recover. >> in the near term, when president zelenskyy was at congress, he spoke before congress it was announced an additional $1.8 billion would be sent to ukraine. how great do you see the need as being? >> this is significant for a few reasons. on one hand, the amount of aid and the fact that is includes a battery and munitions further shows the investment the united states is make anything ukraine, the confidence we have in ukraine's military and also in trying to make this -- trying to force negotiations i also, by the way, would add that it -- there is also the benefit that this shows. what this shows is also that we are -- the united states is investing in ukraine because this is not charity, as
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president zelenskyy said at congress this is an investment. this is a broader fight that he is fighting. one last thing is congress is also looking into an emergency aid package of $44.9 billion that's to address the millions in ukraine who need help, help in rebuilding their infrastructure and such. that would be very interesting to watch these aid packages would certainly make a difference. >> yeah. when we look at the long term, obviously, general, it's extraordinary. all you have to do is look at one block of a bombed-out city and realize the road ahead, that doesn't even talk about the people who are cold right now, hungry right now, who have no power or water right now what more do you think the folks need during these winter months to prevent an even more catastrophic humanitarian crisis can this be dialed back essentially? >> chris, i'll tell you, the administration has done a very
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good job with strong bipartisan support for everything that has been going through ukraine for some reason the administration still can't bring themselves to say they think ukraine can win. that's what they need to hear, for the united states to say we want ukraine to win. and it would be not only aid for the millions of ukrainian people and more of the endless flow of generators and -- portable generators that are being delivered but also long-range precision fires that would help ukraine accomplish what needs to be done. and i think the administration just does not believe that ukraine can actually win so that's why they are stopping short. >> and obviously that's not the only hot spot on the world stage. the defense ministry says china sent seven ships towards taiwan after the u.s. passed its defense spending bill.
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what more kults about the implications of that >> china will look at every opportunity to show that they have control of the area so, for example, shortly after speaker pelosi visited taiwan over the summer, china also sent military planes around the area. they sent a minor temporary blockade just to show they could. they're going to see where the red lines are from the united states and put -- use a show of force just to show that, again, they are the ones who have control. just because they can. i wouldn't expect an invasion from china to taiwan but they are trying to show who is the boss in the area that is the show they recently put on right after congress passed that defense bill >> thank you both so much for being with us this holiday week. digging out in buffalo, new york the city dealing with its worst
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right now in buffalo, new york, first responders are conducting rescue operations as the city grapples with what officials are calling a once in a lifetime blizzard. and i want to bring in someone who knows the impact of this storm all too well, buffalo mayor byron brown. thank you so much for joining us, mr. mayor. what is your biggest concern right now. >> life and safety is our biggest concern, chris our crews continue to try to rescue people who are stranded in vehicles. we've been plowing to get to emergency medical service calls. and we've been working closely with the power company in our area national grid, getting this 'em to power stations to restore power. there have been more than 20,000
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people in the city of buffalo without power. that number is now down below 10,000 at one time i was without power as well. i know how frightening and frustrating it can be for people going through that circumstances. >> it's unbelievable the pictures that we're seeing but the stories, too i understand you've even had first responders needing to be rescued from the storm there were bodies found in the streets, in cars >> yeah. >> what do you need that you don't have right now, mr. mayor? >> we were prepared for the storm. we have equipment. we have support from the state of new york and governor kathy hochul we are working closely with our county government, county executive mark polencars president biden called and
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informed governor hochul that he is immediately signing an emergency declaration for buffalo, erie county and western new york we are just working to focus on life safety and support the residents of our community in getting through this once in a generation storm blizzard conditions that we faced in buffalo. it is probably unlike anything this city has seen in more than 50 years >> and that city has seen a lot. i grew up on lake erie in the snowbelt i lived in albany for years. but what you are going through is really horrendous are you confident of your communications system? in other words, if people are still out there, for example, the nearly 10,000 who may still not have power, are they able to reach out, understand what's going on if there are people who need to be rescued because they don't
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have heat in their homes, are you confident you know where the trouble spots are? >> we are working with the buffalo police department, buffalo fire going car by car making sure people are not in some of these vehicles that are stranded we are getting a number of emergency medical calls. we're responding to those, plows those areas so that emergency first responders can get to people who have medical issues we're hearing from people in other parts of the city, other parts of the region and across the country that have family members in buffalo who have asked us to check the welfare of elderly family members or family members they have not heard from because they could be in homes without power. we have been checking the welfare of individuals in those circumstances. soeufrl likso i feel like our
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communication is reasonably well we are doing everything we can to get information out to the public and to get to homes where there could be problems where people are without power >> can i give you the last 15, 30 seconds to give a shoutout to the first responders who have been out there tkorg the work, saving lives while their families are at home like you without power. >> our first responders have been absolutely amazing, heroic. working from right before the beginning of this storm hit on friday they have been working since thursday around the clock. buffalo police, buffalo fire, pluck public works, state police, county personnel, personnel from other city, state, and county departments. they are doing an amazing job under very difficult circumstances. this is a life-threatening
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storm. and many of our first responders have been working in very dangerous conditions and i also want to give a shoutout to the line workers from the power company national grid who also have been working in very difficult and dangerous conditions >> to say the least. mayor brown, thank you so much for taking the time. we wish you all the best of luck as you move forward. thank you for being with us today. and still ahead, the pope's christmas message. tens of thousands of faithful filling st. peter's square to hear his plea for peace. more on that next when "chris jansing reports" continues only on msnbc (classical piano music) - [reporter] one of the deadliest mass shootings in us history at pulse nightclub in orlando. - [barbara] walking into the building for the first time after the shooting, it was crippling, but it had to be preserved. if you are an ally of this community, speak out. there are more of us together than apart.
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also one of our contributors -- >> great to be with you, chris. >> we talked about this before this pope has not been shy of politically hot topics, condemning the use of food as a weapon of war. what's the tragedy here? and what's the reaction, chris >>. >> well, i think early on in, the war, you know, ten months ago, the vatican thought they could play a pretty important role in perhaps mediating some sort of peace agreement between ukraine and russia nine, ten months in, we realize that's not the case and i think the pope is trying to focus what he can do concretely and one area he has been consistently pointing to recently is food, and weaponizing food that's why he said yesterday, on christmas day, that there is a famine of peace in the world, specifically talking about the war in ukraine. >> and there is also a lot of mention of other things that he has been very involved in, talked a lot about, but not everybody thinks he should weigh into, including refugee issues talk a little bit about the
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politics of this pontificate, which has now reached ten years, right? >> yes, his tenth christmas, and yesterday, as he has done since the begin of the papacy, he has talked about migrants and refugees, the first trine when he was elected, his first trip when he was elected was to pay tribute to the plight of refugees and migrants and shine a spotlight on it and there are those of us who knock at our door and turn us away from other countries. using that christmas message and the pope always uses the christmas message to highlight certain hot spots around the globe where there is conflict and this is of course is a cause near and dear to his heart, migrants and refugees, and so we heard him put it front and center yesterday. >> we know that this is a pope that has a knee problem, call it an ailment, but he has problems standing for long periods of time and he's been out there, he's been keeping a pretty busy schedule i think he did what delegated a
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cardinal, to be the person at the tar, -- the altar and a lot people noted that. how is his health? >> i would say someone who is 86 and has knee issues, he is doing as good as he can be, and he is walking more than he was when he first fell with the ailments of his knee issues nine months ago, but largely using the wheelchair to get around especially for long distances it is not slowing him down at the beginning of february, he will under make a major trip to congo in south suzae dan and continues to work on the hot spots in south sudan, and he has been having that at the top of his mind for several years, and trying to bring peace to a country so divided by civil war. i think he will go on with his boots on and he doesn't want to slow down to any extent that he can, he will keep doing it to
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the extent he can. >> christopher white, thank you very much. a belated merry christmas to you. that's going to do it for this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports," every weekday, 1:00 eastern time, right here on msnbc. i'll be here from 10:00 to noon tomorrow, for "chris jansing reports," and maybe i'll see you then up next, richard louie picks up our coverage
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