happy holidays we're here at msnbc headquarters in new york city, thank you for spending time with us on this monday the death toll from the once in a lifetime multi-state winter storm over the weekend continues to rise today. up by about 20 from this hour yesterday. we now have at least 55 people dead across 12 states with western new york especially hard-hit nearly half of those fatalities are in new york's erie county alone. the freezing temperatures and wind gusts also knocking out power for tens of thousands. in the latest update today, new york governor kathy hochul told drivers to stay off the roads and what first responders are discovering as they conduct rescue operations. >> going into homes, going into vehicles, and too many tragic times finding people who have not survived the experience. they're grieving inside, as we all are, for the families who are getting horrible

heart-breaking news that their loved ones succumbed to the storm over the last day or two, and our hearts are breaking for them and we'll be there to support their families and get them through this, but also the people, the ones who find their loved ones, it does take a toll. >> with many americans, hitting the roads and skies today, and dealing with thousands of holiday flight cancellations, and delays at chicago's midway airport for instance, unclaimed luggage was seen piling up today, and one passenger at o'hare bringing it down to this >> it looks like a zoo it's a complete utter zoo, chaos, it's crazy. >> nbc news correspondent dasha burns joins us live from new york city, and shaquille brew ter is at chicago's o'hare airport. dasha, we'll start with you first and in terms of fatalities and how folks have passed in the streets, in cars, tell us more about what we know about this snowstorm and how it is affecting new york and other

states >> richard, well a lot of families are still reeling from a holiday weekend that turned dangerous, deadly, and incredibly devastating for some families, as you just heard there. especially here in new york state. where folks are still digging out from the storm some are still trapped in their homes and rescue efforts are ongoing. even difficult at this point, richard, because of the many abandoned cars that officials say are still on the roads, downed power lines, and many in their homes still without power. the temperature still freezing up in the buffalo area, where so many of these fatalities occurred richard, 18 deaths in buffalo alone. you can imagine how unbelievable that is, for a community, especially during this holiday time, where folks are supposed to be celebrating together i want you to listen to buffalo's mayor earlier today. >> the buffalo police department has retrieved 18 of these

precious souls that is not an easy thing to do. our police officers are human. it is painful to find members of your community that are deceased, those that are deceased actually on streets in our community, who are trying to walk out during storm conditions, got disoriented, and passed away out in the street. >> reporter: and as mentioned, those rescue efforts are still ongoing. so it is possible that these numbers we're talking about, that they could rise, because there were so many places that were so incredibly difficult to get to there are also concerns that some people who have been trapped in their homes for days now might be running out of food again, some folks without heat and electricity right now as well there is a travel ban in erie county, both for the safety of

the residents there but also so that rescue workers can get their jobs done, can get those roads cleared and can make sure folks are safe again, richard. >> dasha, we know it is big for buffalo, and when it is big for buffalo, it is big tell us more about the power outages right now. >> that's right. across the country, more than 16,000 without power more than 14,000 without power in erie county and you mentioned it there, this is not an area that is not used to this kind of weather. there have been a lot of parallels with the blizzard of '77 that was incredibly devastating for that area, but folks there used to the cold and used to a lot of the snow but many people saying this is unlike anything that they've ever seen, richard. >> and shaq, to you, as you heard from one of the travelers, this was certainly a revelation we've heard many times, a zoo, basically, and a zoo, it is crazy, we might even call it the wild kingdom right now, when you look at airports what are you seeing today? >> reporter: well, it is definitely busy here at

chicago's o'hare airport you're seeing a lot of long lines at different parts of the process. whether that's coming into the terminal, we saw a long line of cars at a certain point and there are lines of security at check-in, even when you get beyond security, there are long lines as people are waiting to unfortunately re-book their flights and we know that travel mess that we saw over the course of weekend has extended to today as well. just today, alone, there have been more than 2,500 cancellations across the country, and more than 4,300 delays at airports from coast to coast. talking to travelers here, some of them are prepared for that, they are mentally prepared, as they're trying to get to some of their destinations, maybe a little bit jealous as they're going to the warm tropical places but where the jealousy turns into sympathy is when you hear about the difficulties that they're facing, getting to those locations. i want you to listen to some of the stories i've been hearing. >> how did you feel when you got that text saying your flight was canceled >> very frustrated

and upset. and i got some strong words i can't say for tv >> it's chaos. we just came up the elevator and i was very surprised >> what is so surprising >> all the people. there's a lot of people here. >> just breathe. the sun is going to come up tomorrow so got to let it go. let it go. >> be patient. because everyone is doing their best >> just breathe. >> just breathe, that is advice that applies not just for if you're traveling during this holiday season a lot of the problems that you're seeing especially today, go through and come from what you saw over the course of the weekend where there are more than 6,000 canceled flights, christmas eve and christmas day alone, so airports and airlines are having to re-book and deal with that backlog of travelers trying to get to their destinations, while also trying to keep up with existing travel schedules, so it's making for a big hurdle that these folks have to face. by the way, if you're not flying and doing driving instead,

expect tomorrow, aaa and travel experts are calling tomorrow the worst travel day of the year so depending on where you go, you heard that lady mention trains, cars, buses, it's all kind of difficult, that's what folks are going to be dealing with over the next couple of days, at least that's the expectation at this point, richard. >> well, you just made the hair stand up on my back, because that is the day i'll be traveling, we shall see, and talk about folks - >> oh, sorry. >> yes, exactly, both of you were smiling at me saying don't do it. talk about last-minute information and keep up to date, we're just hearing here, shaq, buffalo airport will be closed down until wednesday 11:00 a.m. it just came in. so things are changing as we go. shaq brewster, thank you so much, dasha burns as well, out of new york. appreciate it. now, we were hearing about the loss of power, this is a little bit different, at least 17,000 people left without power, in washington state sunday after four electric substations were attacked. tacoma police are calling it

vandalism but are still searching for the suspects or a possible motive. nbc's dana griffin has the details for us >> reporter: so the earliest attack happened around 2:30 in the morning on christmas day we know in all four cases there was vandalism. one of the substations was set on fire. leaving nearly 17,000 people in the dark most of those homes have had their power restored but now investigators are trying to figure out who is behind this and why. this is part of a growing trend that we've seen not only in the pacific northwest, you may remember during thanksgiving, there were five attacks in oregon, washington, and north carolina, and energy experts have warned about hardening these sort of facilities, because they can be vulnerable to domestic terrorists now, investigators in the christmas day attacks are not willing to call this domestic terrorism, because they say they do not have a suspect. now, earlier this month, the fbi released a memo warning officials about these kind of attacks and it is unclear if washington has prepared for that in advance, but we know that they have increased their

security back to you. >> thank you very much for the latest on that. fresh off the holiday travel season as we were talking about, covid-related hospitalizations are up 7% in the past two weeks, and covid-related deaths are up 15%. sam brock has more on the brutal triple-demic as they call it, still putting many on edge as they head only from the holidays >> the most wonderful time of the year to see family but unfortunately the holidays have also proved fertile ground for transmitting viruses and many americans are all too aware. >> i'm vaccinate and boosted and have the flu vaccine. >> we try to be safe and try not to see a lot of people during this time so we can actually be with our loved ones. >> those all-important get-togethers are coming at time when hospitalizations for the flu have fallen for two consecutive weeks. and with seasonal activity remains high according to the cdc, and covid infections are beginning to gather team >> over the last two weeks,

covid hospitalizations are up 7%, and deaths 15% the places with the biggest change in hospitalized patients span the map from delaware, dc, and new hampshire, in the east, to louisiana, in the south, and wyoming in the west. where the figure has jumped more than 40% in a week and miami's largest health care system, jackson health >> it is essentially quadrupled. the chief medical officer says it has been a significant uptick in patients just in recent weeks. >> we thought covid was in the teens, maybe, three or four weeks ago, relatively low. >> we saw that number jump up to the mid to high 90s about a week ago or so. >> with americans chris-crossing the country, many fighting weather and costs, the best option maybe to assume those you travel around in the next couple of weeks are sick. >> on the return trip home, and also in those first few days going back to school, back to work, what kind of advice do you have for people? >> if you're traveling nowadays make sure you're wearing a mask

and even if you are wearing a mask and have your vaccine if you can schedule your travel at times where it is a less busy travel time which of course is difficult this time of the season, that's a good idea as well. >> even now medical experts say getting a flu shot or a covid booster could make a big difference now, the flu vaccine covers four different strains which is also to say that if you've been infected already this season, you're not protected from getting the flu again. so listen to your doctors, listen to your parents, get the vaccine. in miami, sam brock, nbc news. >> sam, thank you for that. still ahead this hour, defiance in the face of the freezing cold and even more casualties, president zelenskyy's message to his people amid brutal russian shelling over the christmas holiday. plus, for you, new warning sirens for donald trump, as some of his biggest potential rivals lay the foundation for possible 2024 runs. and a season of giving that's coming to an end. now, it's the season of returns. we'll get a check on how many billions of dollars worth of gift returns are expected this season and how much time you

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a ukrainian drone was shot down near an air base according to the russian defense ministry d ukrainian attack of possible in the region in one month, a sign that ukraine is increasingly undeterred from targets inside russia. over the weekend president volodymyr zelenskyy released a message telling his countrymen, we know what we are fighting for, let's endure this winter. joining me now, nbc foreign correspondent matt bradley, live from kyiv. matt, what is the latest there is this allegation that what was downed was a ukrainian drone to start >> reporter: yes, and the ukrainian drone, they didn't take responsible for it but they never take responsibility for any of their attacks inside

russia that's standard policy they've been doing that since the beginning of the war richard, this isn't new because ukraine has managed to strike targets inside russia, and also inside russian occupied ukraine and places like crimea, occupied since 2014 so this is something that the ukrainians have always shown, they have this capability to project their power beyond their own borders, especially when they're armed to the teeth with so many western weapons, as they are now but, you know, this capability is something that we could see expand as the ukrainians tend to, and we've seen over the past couple of months, make some gains on the battle field, and push closer and closer to russian borders. it might be why where we're hearing vladimir putin talking about negotiations, and though nobody here is really taking that all that seriously, but what we just heard today, from the associated press, is the foreign miner center of ukraine, he said that he's expecting to have some kind of peace negotiations before the end of

february with the united nations and antonio guiterrez, the head of the united nations as the host, and it is unclear what that meant or if he is responding to vladimir putin, because later in that same associated press article, based on the view they had with the foreign minister, he seemed to sort of pour cold woert on vladimir putin's suggestion that he might want to have negotiations. and it wasn't entirely clear that russia would be invited to a peace conference at the united nations. when we're starting to see a lot of advances on the battlefield by ukraine, and by the way, we haven't seen any real advances in either direction, by either side, in the past six weeks, it is unclear whether or not these negotiations are even in the of f'ing at all, even though we heard the last 48 hours, both sides seem to suggest that, what is clear, it looks like the ukrainians have had the upper hand for the past several months we saw the victory lap that

president zelenskyy took in washington, that historic address he made to congress, and from the ukrainians perspective, and you see attacks like this one that killed those three russian soldiers, ukrainians believe that they are willing, so it doesn't really suit them to sit down at the negotiating table with the russians even if that mean, especially if that means seizing some ground. >> thank you. retired four star general barry mccaffrey, an msnbc military analyst, we'll get to some of the details here, what we just heard from matt, but i think one of the bigger questions that we have as we sit at the end of the year, which side has the wind at their backs as we now look into winter >> first of all, i think it is a brutal situation for the ukrainians, and good news, though, a lot of options, we've gone essentially from an attack, attack on civilian targets in ukraine, notwithstanding the occasional strike by the

ukrainians at the russian air force bases inside russia, and they're not feeling any pain from the ukrainian counter offensive against the strategic air fleet. so the situation is dire it's not just electric grid, the water grid, it's also the death of civilians throughout the country, from these cruise missile attacks. they may get worse, because the iranians are on the verge of providing essentially ballistic missiles which can strike deeper and faster but it is a tough situation. i think the end of the day, there's no question, putin has lost the strategic war already and will never be able to regain it but in an operational sense, we need to upgrade ukrainian offensive weapon systems, the missiles, the m-1 tanks, armed drones and hopefully let them

batter the russian army into submission without which the war goes on and endures forever. >> is that what he's going to get after his visit, ukraine's president? >> well, i think, look, the biden team, lloyd austin, tony blinken, they're very experienced sensible people, cia, treasury, there is a whole government approach to this and rightfully concerned about backing putin into a corner. they're rightfully concerned about nuclear weapons deployment but at the end of the day, the russians have thrown everything into the fray. so for example the patriot missile battery which is going to be used in six months, it may help, but the can't fight a defensive war with your infrastructure being sabotaged and have any hope of peak negotiations we have to up the pain on the russians and the ukrainian military can do that. >> you were just discussing,

general, how your view is that ukraine is on their heels military and at any moment, things can get quite worse for them if you can, throw into the pot here, what we were just hearing, where vladimir putin is saying to, on public television, during an interview, that he's open to negotiations, that's one thing, number two, you brought up the iranians, potentially providing assistance to russia, and then we have the reports over the weekend, north korea, sending rockets to a russian military company, not the first time, we understand from what you've told us, but still, you put all of those three things together, one might think that russia might be needing some help at the moment, but that's not true? >> oh, no, i think that is quite true, i think look, depending upon the iranians and north koreans for military support where china is sort of sitting it out, where the global community of 50 nations and the contract group that puts you

under economic constrain, russia is in a terrible situation by the way, the ukrainian military is doing just fine. the unbearable savagery of the russians is against the civilian population so again, i think we need to up the ante, give the ukrainian armed forces the offensive tools they need, to try and bludgeon the russian military into unraveling so i think the you cran-- whichi think the ukrainians can pull off and they need more advanced technology and it can't be drips and drabs and i've commanded in germany in the winter and they can operate in the winter with the right equipment and right camouflage and right warfare, so i think the unbearable fact is putin will not negotiation all he might do is try and get a cease-fire, to try and unscrew the massive library, the logistics, the man power, et cetera so right now, both sides are

pretending they want to talk, but it is a neither side's advantage to do so >> they may have a busy winter in the theater and as we all remember it started during wintry weather conditions earlier this year. general mccaffrey, thank you so much appreciate it. >> good to be with you >> absolutely. straight ahead is, donald trump facing stronger head winds in the 2024 presidential race? what his potential gop opponents are signaling about their fight against the former president liquid. can it one up whatever they're doing? for sure. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains. any further questions? uh uh! one up the power of liquid with tide pods ultra oxi. (bridget vo) with thyroid eye disease... i hid from the camera. and i wanted to hide from the world. for years, i thought my t.e.d was beyond help... ...but then i asked my doctor about tepezza.

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maryland, donna edwards, david jolly, and deputy managing editor for "politico" and msnbc contributor, sam stein sam, i want to start with you. the last several days, as i've been reading "politico," you've been outlining basically how it looks over the holidays. i think the big thing to take away from this, i want to get your reflection is, they're all at home figuring out what am i going to do. >> yes, so trump jumped the gun a bit. he set the stage for the rest of them, to simply decide when to jump in. there are pros and cons to going early and certainly you want to establish your name and get all of the donors that you can get and on the flip side, if you go too early, you can lose momentum very quickly, trump is experiencing some of that right now, so if you're on the republican side of that, you're waiting your time and building up your infrastructure and engaging in a shadow campaign which is you are laying down roots, you're honing in on staffing you want to hire, you're figuring out your messaging, and then you'll jump

in at the appropriate time i think the big question essentially is what does trump do when the next person jumps in, right? how hard does he attack him or her? does he feel threatened by it? does he think his nomination is his, essentially >> ron desantis, restarting the google and facebook ads and former secretary of state pompeo looking to build up his staffing and former governor asa hutchinson, talking to donors at the moment several of many, and how do we tell the difference between a curious candidate and a serious one? >> i think at this stage, it is really difficult one of the things that we know and that the poll demonstrates is in a multi-candidate field, which this probably is going to be, that trump might indeed eek it out with a base level of support, which i don't think is going anywhere the question is what is that floor? is the floor 30% or 20% or is it the 40%?

and we just don't know that yet. and it looks like a lot of these candidates don't really have the kind of national recognition that they would need to form that base, and so i think, you know, donald trump right now looks good, and then we don't know how all of this, you know, sort of court action is going to play out and what that will mean in terms of the, in the eyes of the voters. >> you know, david, we have looked at the numbers in the poll and there are some within the numbers and some far away from the moe on that list, and you have to ask the question, who is the curious one in the group? who is the serious one in the group? you could go outside of these four, clearly. >> yes, look, the reality is if we're not talking about donald trump, it's ron desantis and everybody else, in fact, it is a question, if donald trump were to really fizzle out, does this look more like a 2000 coronation of bush 43 within the republican nomination process is it going to be desantis from

start to finish? i think there are some other names. ted cruz may get in. the miami mayor, frances suarez is continuing to tease out that he might be interested in running. and you know, does that really shake up a desantis race we'll see. but i think the more interesting thing here richard is this it is hard to think about donald trump as candidate trump we think of him, many consider him uniquely dangerous to the country and the constitution but if you just consider him a republican presidential candidate in '24 who was the first to launch, he's a terrible candidate right now. i mean the messaging has been around anti-semitism, january 6th, and the indictment, and successful prosecution of the trump business empire. and so it makes it easy for ron desantis to make the case without really having to go to donald trump, because donald trump is making the case against himself week by week he's having a terrible, terrible launch and ron desantis is sitting back as a beneficiary of all of that. >> sam, we will bring up ron desantis here, considering the

2024 run, he is one of the governors expected to possibly do so, as was described, tailer what they do, day to day, potentially in the legislative work and as they move forward on their campaigns in terms of what will help them on a national scale down the line and according to the "washington post," desantis is going to take on abortion, privacy, gun rights, environmental and social issues and the question is what does it mean for someone in the state of florida to have a governor more focused on presidential ambitions than helping the state? in other words having to take away from what their job actually is. >> so to a degree, i think ron desantis has always had his finger on the national pulse he has been the forefront, many in the cultural fights of the republican party has waged, and recently, he went heavy on vaccine skepticism, with respect to the covid vaccine push that he, prior to then, had endorsed. and that was why we see him

included within the republican circles in an attempt to get to trump's right on the vaccine if you're in the state of florida and you're a constituent of ron desantis, you already have a sense of what it is like to live under a govern wer presidential ambitions he has long stayed on the national stage in that sense that is kind of what made him into a superstar in circles and the primary choice for those who don't want trump is, that he has the ability, and indeed a craft, i would say, at earn, a craft at earning those national headlines, understanding the zeitgeist of the keviconservatie movement and playing to it. >> part of the times, we're only a day after christmas, and one of the majors here who is running for president on the gop side, and of course, that would be donald trump, what do you see as the timing that would be relevant to the field at the moment some of the names that we brought up in terms of lots of things, fundraising, endorsements, what are you looking at >> well, i mean, you know, donald trump really accelerated

obviously the primary election campaign in 2024 but i don't think that that means that the other candidates, short of standing back, getting their staffsing to, getting their base together -- staffs together, getting their base together, reaching out to donor, really has to jump in the race and to me, i'm with david jolly, i'm looking at who comes next, so this next quarter i think is going to be really important in the run-up and for some of these candidates, they just don't really have the kind of national base that they need, so they may have to come in earlier than say a ron desantis who is built up from the campaign treasury, reach out to donors and reach out to some of the republican operatives >> who is next, they may read this article and go, well, i'm going to wait even longer, you may have seen this, david, in the new york magazine, the article that was out, about donald trump, quote, using these words by the way, sad, lonely, thirsty, broken, basically

pretend run for re-election. those are the words from this actual article from "the new yorker." i want to get your reflection about where donald trump is at the moment, where he is in terms of what we read in the "new york magazine". >> i think there is a lot that is predictable and easy on donald trump, someone with incredible ego and very fragile ego. i think what donald trump is wrestling with now is he expected another coronation, not that the first one was but the sitting president and then removed from office, and now running again, i think he expected all of the republicans to head his way, but what you saw at the announcement speech, it was a lot of the republican rejects and the also-runs if you will, and there is not the substantial with donald trump, the team with him any longer, and so what donald trump has to do, he has to play that grievance card to say everybody's against me and you feel it, too and by working with me, that means we're working together and

i'm going to deliver the country for you. that worked in '16 i don't know if that will work again in '24 that's what donald trump is going to test. i can tell you desantis and the others, they're just going to try to play it straight and they're going to see if now is the time that the republican party wants to move past donald trump. it's a numbers game. can you win the party without the trump coalition? probably not but that's what every other candidate is about to test >> a full spectrum of expertise himself as well as trees and no trees and zero to one and dave jolly with two trees, we won't ask why, but maybe it is the day after christmas and he's running around collecting trees. what else are you doing? >> sam stein, donna edwards, david jolly with two trees, appreciate it. if you got a holiday gift that you're already thinking about returning, you're not alone. but you may be running out of time how to beat the rush for your refunds, that's next here to tet e through the colonial penn program.

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the shopping season may be ending but the returning season, well that's just begun according to the national retail federation, americans will return about 18% of their holiday gifts this year. that's more than $150 billion worth. joining us right now to discuss is data reporter brian cheung. that's a lot, like one out of five, right? in the basic calculation there how busy do you see folks there with their presents and returning them >> yes, rich, that's pretty brutal, if you gave someone five gifts, chances are they will probably return one of them and that's the stat that backs up the fact that americans are expected to spend an estimated $171 billion in holiday returns just this holiday season for what it's worth, a lot of retailers have gotting a little more stringent on the return policies, about 60% of retailers have changed their policies this year, reversing a lot more of the generous covid era return

policies and it all depends the time that you bought that package or that gift or that item, at amazon and best buy, though, what covers the return policy for the holidays is about two weeks shorter at amazon, a week shorter at best buy, so you're going to want to double check your receipt to make sure you know when you bought that purchase, and when you're eligible to return it. that could determine if it is eligible for as late as end of january for bringing those items back, richard request. >> nbc's brian cheung, thank you. >> looking at all of those folks returning stuff. thank you 11 days from now marking two years since the january 6th attack on the capitol. an attack revisited in excruciating detail by the january 6th committee over the past 18 months after the break, we will take our own look back at those events and the findings of the dramatic investigation that unfolded trading easier react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity

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we end this hour with a look back at one of the biggest stories of the year, in the investigation into the january 6th capitol attack and last week, the house committee investigating the riot released its final report based on more than 1,000 interviews and one million documents. katy tur has a look back at all the committee uncovered and what could be coming next

>> what happened on january 6th, 2021, played live and unedited across all networks at the same time meaning all of us saw the same thing, trump's mobs beating up police officer, vandalizing the u.s. capitol, ransacking the floors of the senate, free of political spin, or imagination but that was then. and by 2022, the events of that day had gotten fuzzier, muddied up by partisanship so the january 6th committee made up of seven democrats and two prominent republicans, admitted their tact to sharpen the country's memory and to prove who was to blame >> we'll never, ever take back our country with weakness. >> say usa, usa >> in nine televised hearings, the january 6th committee set out to make their case >> president trump summoned the mob, assembled the mob, and lit

the flame of this attack >> using recorded depositions from the people who were there donald trump's own team. >> there were suggestions by i believe it was rudy giuliani to go and declare victory and say that we'd won it outright. >> it was far too early to be making any calls like that. >> what they were proposing i thought was nuts >> his own aides and his own advisers. >> he said dead people are voting indians are getting paid to vote told him flat out that much of the information he is getting is false. >> his own cabinet members and his own family >> making it clear i did not agree with the idea of say nath election was stolen and putting out this stuff which i told the president was [ bleep ]. >> i talked to attorney general barr, so i accepted what he said, what he was saying >> all describing what happened in their own words >> and making it clear that

right from the beginning, donald trump was told the truth >> if he really believes this stuff, you know, he has lost contact with, he's become detached from eat. >> donald trump was so adamant about staying in power, the committee showed he would try to overturn the election. >> the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged remember that. >> he tried to do it through lawsuits 61 cases lost. half thrown out. >> under no incident did the court find that the charges of fraud were real. >> he tried to do it through pressure on the states leaning on officials. >> so look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> there were no votes to find that was an accurate count it had been certified. >> i told president trump, you would not do anything illegal

for him. >> i did, both times >> and spreading lies about individual election workers. >> there is nowhere i feel safe. nowhere. do you know how it feels to have the president of the united states to target you >> when neither the states nor the courts would bend, he tried to do it through his d.o.j >> he responded very quickly and said, well, i'm just asking you, just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen >> demanding the election be declared a fraud seizing voting machines and trying to install a loyal a. g. >> did every assistant attorney general that you spoke all agree to resign? >> all without hesitation said they would resign. >> with time running out, trump tried the vice president, demanding he refuse to certify

the election on january 6th. >> mike pence, i hope you will stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you. i will tell you right now. >> and when vice president pence officially refused, the committee argued trump tries to do it by unleashing his masses >> we're going to walk down, and i'll be there with you >> in a protest, the panel said trump knew would get out of hand. >> the confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given the chance >> i'm here to find pence. i'm telling you, if pence caves, we're going to drive the [ bleep ] through the streets. >> you heard it here first mike pence has betrayed the united states of america >> hang mike pence hang mike pence. >> i heard the president say something to the effect of, you know, i don't care that they have weapons, they're not here

to heard me, take the f'ing mags away let my people in they can march to the capitol from here. >> the president tried to grab the steering wheel mr. engel grabbed his arm and said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing we're not going to the capitol and mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge toward bobby >> and donald trump stayed silent, unmoved by the images of bloodied police. the galows erected on the lawn the pleas from republican lawmakers to say something and do something >> mr. president, you have got to stop this >> i heard my phone ringing. turned the shower off. saw it was leader mccarthy who i had a good relationship with he told me it was getting really ugly at the capitol and please anything you can do to help, i

would appreciate it. >> i already talked to the president. i called him i think we need to make a statement. make sure that we can calm individuals down >> unmoved, for 187 minutes. until 4:17 p.m >> i know your pain, i know your hurt, we had an election that was stolen from us, i know how you feel, but go home and go home in peace. >> in the end, vice chair liz cheney said president trump knew the patriotism of his supporters, and he knew the loyalty he inspired. and he preyed on that loyalty. turning their love of country into a weapon against our capitol. and our constitution >> what happens when the president disregards the court's rulings as illegitimate, when he disregards the rule of law that, my fellow citizens, breaks our republic >> during the committee's final

meeting they unanimously voted to make four criminal referrals to the d.o.j. for the former president, inciting an insurrection, obstructing an official government proceed can, making false staples and defraugd the united states the united states is now in the hands of special counsel jack smith. >> katy, thank you so much. still ahead, on another hour of msnbc reports, we'll have an update on the deadly winter storm that buried buffalo under feet of snow the death toll expected to climb even higher, as temperatures dip to life-threatening lows, and mountains of snow left roads completely impassable, as of today. we're back after a quick break i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price.

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good to be with you on this monday i'm ric i'm richard louie for another hour of top stories. and the hardest hit area appears to be new york's erie county which accounts for 25 fatalities earlier this afternoon, new york governor hochul addressed the ongoing power outages in the state. >> if you're a mom at home with kids and you've been out of power for a long time, that was me not that many years ago, i know from experience, it is frightening, it is exasperating and you are saying when is this going to end