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nation's" 12th annual revvie awards it's where we celebrate the best and worst of politics in 2022 and give awards to those who deserve it i'm honored to have been bringing you some of the most significant and memorable moments this past year and what a year it has been. with that let's bring in our esteemed panel republican strategist and msnbc political analyst susan del pressio. danielle moody, host of the woke a.f. daily and democracy-ish podcasts and ali velshi, host of "velshi" right here on msnbc. this year was dominated by the midterm elections. with that in mind let's get right to our first revvie. the biggest political showdowns. i'll share a few of my own nominees to get us started

then the panel can chime in. the first is the senate showdown in pennsylvania between john fetterman and dr. oz oz won the republican nomination based on fame, and he got dispensed -- dispensing medical advice on tv but it was fetterman's health that was the big concern after he suffered a stroke during a campaign -- during the campaign. in the end, though, dr. oz had no cure for allegations he wasn't a true pennsylvanian, and fetterman will be packing up his hoodies and heading for capitol hill my next nominee, the rumble in the desert for arizona governor. maga republican fell head over heels for lake's tv-ready

smoothness but arizona preferred the low-key competence of their democratic secretary of state. lake campaigned on a platform of denying the 2020 election results. and now she's raising questions about her own defeat although yet again there is no evidence to support her claims which brings me to my final epic showdown, the growing rivalry between florida governor ron desantis and former president donald trump "the new york post" helpfully broke down the feud between the two front page desantis cruised to re-election, throwing red meat to the republican base. and looks like the future. while many of trump's hand-picked candidates lost their races, making him a political laughingstock right before his rushed announcement

of a third presidential campaign panel, what are your thoughts? >> well, i'm going to put ron desantis and donald trump for later because we're going to have a lot of time to discuss that one in the next couple of years. i was very relieved to see john fetterman run, particularly after that debate in which it drew attention to his stroke look, people who don't die of strokes often get a lot better but americans have difficulty processing this stuff. he was having some difficulty processing the language in that debate i almost started to think might he just win this campaign by staying home but he won and i thought that was meaningful the kari lake and katie hobbs situation was something else because katie hobbs got a lot of criticism for not getting out there, for not debating her, for not having the high-energy campaign that kari lake had. but in the end katie hobbs, i don't know -- i'm trying to remember how you described her but she was just sort of tenacious, nose to the grindstone she was secretary of state did her job. and in the end conservatives in

arizona looked at her and chose her over kari lake because they said arizona's got a long rich conservative history, he we don't need this -- >> and maybe hobbs understood that better than katie -- >> i think in hindsight she probably did >> danielle. >> i'll tell you that i watched the katie hobbs and kari lake election and initially i was really critical of katie hobbs not showing up, deciding not to debate because i thought it was a missed opportunity anytime that you have an opportunity to speak to the voters, you should get out front and speak to the voters. but then i said you know, maybe she's on to something. because kari lake, she's just going to turn this into a circus she's going to show up and vacuum carpets like she did before donald trump's appearance in arizona she is a shtick. that's what she is and katie hobbs said i'm a serious candidate that cares about the people of arizona. so i respected her for her decision and clearly the people of arizona did as well. for fetterman and oz, i mean, oz

is not even from pennsylvania. that was the thing and medical -- >> he's really from a few places we saw all of his mansions >> all of his homes, right >> countries too >> a couple of homes and to be honest, like dr. oz stopped making sense to me when i realized that he was just running infomercials instead of providing medical advice to people so you can't just ride high on fame and that is what fetterman showed he showed that you can show up, he tell the people the truth and guess what, you don't need to do it in a suit and tie you can put on a hoodie and be with the people. so i appreciated that. and ron desantis and trump, we'll get to that. >> susan >> the ron desanity sxis donald trump with the post cover you showed i have to say it was one of my favorite moments when it said "guy from florida announces he's running for president." >> from the "post," who had helped him all his career. >> that was noteworthy but i also want to say races who

really showed who people were. in the warnock-walker race the way warnock used the ad with herschel walker's own words. >> yeah. >> really, what a showdown herschel walker vs. himself. it really worked but i think the overreaching theme was out of control trump crazy does not win so i look at the year and i say, good it's a -- we had a much better year than i thought we were going to >> all right now let's go to the revvies award for heroes and heels of 2022 let's start with my picks for the mvps of the midterms former president barack obama came out of political retirement to make a real difference on the campaign trail this year obama crisscrossed the country this fall campaigning in key battleground states including pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona and nevada

his high-energy rallies were something democrats could believe in wherever the former president went blue victories would often follow my other herebo, outgoing speak nancy pelosi pelosi's fund-raising prowess is always a secret weapon for democrats. but just as importantly, she was able to keep her big tent caucus unified during a year in which many party faithful were bracing for the worst, although democrats just barely missed holding on to the majority pelosi ends this chapter of her illustrious political career on a definite high note danielle, your thoughts. >> you know, i have to give it to nancy pelosi. nancy plosi'selosi's career has absolutely storied she reminds women that just

because you have entered into your 40s does not mean that you're done. she created an entirely new career for herself and i think people forget that and just the legacy and her fire over the years and especially going toe to toe with donald trump throughout his entire term i mean, the -- >> and outwitting him. >> yes i mean, that's not hard. but the memes wrote themselves with the shades and the glasses. her style, her elegance, her fire she's incredible and then who doesn't love to see obama on the trail who didn't love him saying you know, yeah, i thought about vampires and werewolves when talking about herschel walker? when i was 7 >> yeah. >> we forgot how funny he is and i forgot actually the joy of politics until we saw him on the campaign trail and i said oh, i remember why i love this. i remember why i went -- >> before politics got all ugly. >> yeah. so these are good choices.

>> ali >> i think we've had a lot of time to talk about barack obama and how mesmerizing he is in a room, and we will still have more feels like 2022 is a great moment for nancy pelosi to remember a very basic thing. you know, i'm an economics guy nancy pelosi could count she used a calculator. she didn't bring a vote to the floor that she was going to lose she knew what she had to do to keep her caucus together, and what she allowed, the dissidents in her caucus to do was be dissidents she allowed them to say i get it, that you don't want to support this, i'll find a couple other people, we'll delay the vote until we get it she was masterful at her craft as much as she was great when she came out to a podium and she had witty things to say, that's not where her work was >> right >> she was like we talked about katie hobbs, like we talk about so many other, like we're going to talk about hakeem jeffejeffe, people who just do their work. nancy pelosi first did her work, talked about it later. >> susan, let's get to the heels of 2022. starting with a familiar fis

face former president donald trump. trump continues to portray himself as a kingmaker but the midterms further undermined that dubious claim. a "washington post" analysis of results found "trump's position with the republican party might be the worst one possible. very effective at getting his candidates to win primaries but speaking to his base but ineffective at getting those candidates to win in november," unquote. but trump wasn't the only saboteur scuttling republican political prospects in '22 supreme court justice clarence thomas was one of the six conservative supreme court judges who voted to overturn roe vs. wade this summer but he didn't stop while most republicans insisted the dobbs decision was narrowly

tailored to the issue of abortion, justice thomas penned a concurring opinion suggesting gay marriage, birth control, and even same-sexual relations could be on the chopping block the backlash to the dobbs decision proved to be a major factor in republicans' disappointing showing in the midterms susan, let us get going. the heels. >> absolutely. clarence thomas was a heel that's for sure. but he wasn't alone. whereas i think donald trump really alone, on his self is responsible for hurting the republican party in ways that it will take almost a generation to come back from and when you look at donald trump talking about 2022, he never talked about it. rev, he went to all these campaign rallies he wasn't like barack obama getting into it, doing turnout for candidates he went there and talked about 2020 and himself it was all about donald.

so not only was he a bad surrogate, he hurt candidates. and imagine a former president, and right now the leading only republican candidate for president, he wasn't welcome in georgia. they said no thank you >> which is unthinkable. >> crazy so i think he really was a heel's heel. >> a heel's heel >> danielle, give me some heel's heel from you. >> i have to say i have to give it to clarence thomas. clarence thomas, you know, we look at justices, the supreme court, as these esteemed thinkers these analytic, you know, people who are literally above the rest of us. right? and clarence thomas had an opportunity to recuse himself when deciding the case about offering up donald trump's tax returns, when offering up the phone records that the house panel, january 6th panel asked for, because guess whose phone number might have appeared

there. his wife's right? >> yeah. >> which we knew was very heavily involved in the insurrection so the fact that we have this weaponized supreme court, that clarence thomas is a star of that weaponized supreme court, the fact that he would allude to putting everything, every right that has been won that actually allowed that man to sit in that seat, he was putting on the chopping block so i mean, for me he is the ultimate heel of 2022 and he should be investigated >> ali, i'm almost out of time, but i have to get your heels >> i'm going to split it because i think donald trump is a helium balloon we're watching deflate so i don't want to give him the credit of this i think it's clarence thomas the issue is i'm not sure he's a heel or he should be "time's" person of the year and split it with his wife. these people have been more influential in politics toward the end of 2022 than clarence thomas has been for all the time he's been on the supreme court so i think he's more influential. not sure whether he's a heel or

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>> announcer: welcome back to world famous rockefeller center in new york city and the 12th annual revvie awards here again is your host, reverend al sharpton welcome back to all of you at home. i'm here with our panelists, susan del percio, danielle moody and ali velshi time now to hand out our revvies to the history maker of 2022 my first nominee is justice ketanji brown jackson, who in june was sworn in as the first black woman on the supreme court. justice jackson's groundbreaking confirmation was the fulfillment of a campaign promise president joe biden made to south carolina congressman jim clyburn and to many black voters, to the many

black voters i should say who turned out to elect biden in 2020 also making history, house democratic leader and elected by the democrats in the house, hakeem jeffries, the new york congressman became the first african american party leader after speaker pelosi announced she would step aside last month. leader jeffries will have an important role in a congress of unprecedented diversity. a record 149 women will serve in the next house, including the highest number of black and hispanic females ever. also making history is 25-year-old florida congressman maxwell frost. the first gen z member of congress but certainly not the last

ali, anyone else you want to highlight? >> yeah, there were a number of those kinds of firsts, young people, people from non-traditional backgrounds who got elected not even to congress, in georgia there was a muslim american woman who wore a hijab who had gone to an event to talk about getting involved in politics and she told the reporter that she's planning on running a marathon and it got misinterpreted she's planning on running. and everybody started calling her and said oh my god, you're running? so she decided to run and she got elected. in illinois there's another young woman, younger man max frost, who elected to the state legislature. i want to focus on hakeem jeffries for a second. like we talked about katie hobbs earlier, hakeem jeffries is not all fire and brimstone -- >> i've known him 25 years he's never been -- >> quiet guy just going to do his work. >> balanced, quiet and maybe that is what america needs. danielle >> i was just so impressed by maxwell frost. i think that he is incredible. i think that pollsters counted

generation z out and said that they weren't going to show up and they were going to stay home during the midterm elections not only did they show up and bring democrats wins that they needed and also really were the ones that stopped this quote unquote red wave that was supposed to be coming but maxwell frost showed up and reminded us good people do run for office good people and young people run for office and they can change our world. >> and all young people are not anti-system or irresponsible >> yes >> susan >> i'm going to go back to hakeem jeffries. maybe because i'm a new yorker i don't know and i don't know him as long as you do, rev. but the one thing that's so important to recognize is how practigmatic he is he is someone who will make deals, will reach across the aisle for the right thing. he's not going to sell out his values but i think seeing him on the news every day, seeing hakeem jeffries, a young vibrant elected official who is out there is so important because

he's not from the old guard. and it will be something that will be recognized nationally almost every day >> and he's always been like that i think that it -- i've known him, like i said, since he was maybe in his early 30s or late 20s. he's always been that way. we have more of the revvies coming up for you. and more lighthearted moments from the year. we'll be right back. >> and it's my belief that the election is rigged and the results should be thrown out >> uh, it sounds like some new numbers are coming in which has you taking a narrow lead over katie hobbs. >> which is why i have always said this is a democracy, trust the system, trust the votes.

we are back to "politics nation's" 12th annual revrevvies i'm here with our panel, susan, danielle and ali now let's talk about the best and worst political ads of 2022. let's start with the most brilliant spots of this midterm election democrat john fetterman got plenty of laughs from his clever needling of his republican opponent, dr. oz, over his checkered career as a tv doctor

and dubious connections to the state of pennsylvania. but one ad from a super pac supporting fetterman seemed to put him on the yellow brick road to victory take a look. >> if you were really great and powerful you'd keep your promises >> physicians say dr. oz is a quack and a charlatan. >> the only thing that people like dr. oz care about is themselves >> you're a very bad man >> pay no attention to that man behind the curtain >> now, fetterman wasn't the only politician with a knack for going viral. in louisiana democratic senate candidate gary chambers locked the cash to blanket the tv airways against republican incumbent senator john kennedy so he dreamed up some low-budget but provocative ads he knew the

media could not ignore, including one where he smoked marijuana to call attention to the cost of the drug war and another where he burned the confederate flag chambers lost his race but sparked a lot of conversation. and then there's rhode island's state senator tara -- tiara mack, who probably wasn't expecting a tiktok she posted of herself twerking on the beach to become a turning point in her career, but when the eight-second clip attracted a lot of attention and criticism she turned the controversy into a teachable moment about the double standards women of color face >> am i surprised that the internet is more ready to talk about me twerking upside down on america's birthday yesterday

than they are ready to talk about any of the policy wins i had this year or any of the other accomplishments that i've had outside of the senate chamber, inside of the senate chamber? i'm not surprised. >> now, miss mack won her race her race for re-election she won, and she'll be shaking things up in politics for years to come. panel, your thoughts danielle, you first. >> you know, i had the opportunity to interview tiara mack and she made brilliant points it is about the faux controversy, the faux outrage, the body shaming, the ownership over black women's bodies. and they didn't pay attention to her but she got them to pay attention to her policies and she was able to flip the script and have a really smart conversation you know, and i think that that's what politics needs, are taking these viral moments and turning them into real conversations about real issues and policies and she did it brilliantly

>> ali >> remember when aoc, they released some video of her dancing and that was like the worst thing, this is like "footloose," man what are we worried about? people twerking going to bring down democracy there are actually people working to bring down democracy. if you can twerk and you can dance and all that stuff and give us all something to smile about in the meantime, i don't even get dwr these things become issues so she's completely right. focus on the right things. >> susan >> i'm going to take it through the lens, as a political operative. i have to give it to two of the three ads. i mean those who had these low-budget clips that went viral. you know, the super pac ad you showed probably had millions and millions of dollars behind it and they could do whatever they wanted these ads went directly to the people and it shows you how powerful a single voice could be fighting for their issues >> agreed. >> that's very true. and they really did a good job because it was picked up by news

outlets and it didn't cost the money they didn't have now let's get to the worst ads in a cycle where republicans worked overtime to connect democrats to exaggerated accounts of out-of-control crime, it's no surprise their campaign commercials were spiked with a heavy dose of racism. iowa's republican governor kim reynolds ran against a democrat who did not support defunding the police, but that was no problem for governor reynolds. she just went ahead and cut an ad featuring a completely different black woman from another state. take a look. >> and defunding the police has to happen -- >> watching the news, you wonder, has the rest of the country lost its mind? attacks on police. open borders paying people not to work. aren't you glad you live in

iowa >> but my first annual golden dog whistle must go to louisiana senator and oxford university grad john kennedy. the other john kennedy didn't try any clever sleight of hand with his racist messaging. he just looked straight in the camera and said this >> look, if you hate cops just because they're cops, the next time you get in trouble call a crackhead. i'm john kennedy, and i approve this message >> let's bring our panel back in ali. >> i'm a little speechless about that one i'd forgotten that ad. john kennedy known for being fairly direct. he's the one that reporters go to in the senate because he's always got some kind of quirk. so he'll lean on the fact that he's quirky and he says things the way he means them. but we've long since got rid of the dog whistle in american politics, or certainly in republican politics. everybody just says the quiet part out loud. but that iowa ad was something

else literally, as you said, taking just another black woman -- >> just any black woman. >> and making the point. i think we're in that era where there's no dog whistling anymore. you're going to appeal straight to racism, go for it >> straight ahead. danielle >> for me i just look at these and i say to ali's point yeah, there is no dog whistle. they're full on bull horizon they're podiums and stages set up to be as racist as possible the republicans reward racism and misogyny it's extraordinary right? and we should call it out when we see it. but it has just gotten worse over the last seven-plus years i've never seen anything like it that commercial, crackhead really that's what we're doing? okay >> susan >> but kennedy said it he said it straight to camera. so it does show you where we are in our politics as a nation. but the iowa ad is also really dangerous because of the way we're using imagery. and we know that it was false.

she used from different states and used a different clip than the person she was running against. and that deceitfulness is something that has run through politics and doesn't get called out. at least you could call out kennedy for being a racist and saying something just awful because there he is. >> let me ask you something. you're an operative, as you said what is a good ad? what makes a good ad >> i think a good ad is when you can show the candidate and talk about their positives and the candidate can talk straight to the people is usually the most powerful now, i will say in a tough race you need negative advertising. nowadays you tend to rely on superpacs to do the negative while your campaign office is the positive so i think that's what we -- they were trying to do in iowa it was just so deceitful >> ali, what's a bad ad? >> well, i think one of the worst ads in american political history is one of the best ads the willie horton. right? was that a great ad or the worst ad ever?

it cost somebody the presidency. but on the other hand it directly appealed to people's fears, which is what kennedy just did there is an overwhelming sense in america that crime's out of control, whether the numbers bear that out or not when you make ads that are directed at that, you know, we're fairly sophisticated about defunding the police now we realize after talking about it for a couple of years what people actually mean and generally speaking they mean redirecting resources that can be more helpful to the people in need and prevent unnecessary interactions between the police and people they pull over or stop we know that that's an ad from three years ago, two years ago that's what it feels like. it feels like john kennedy has not evolved into the discussion we're actually having in america right now about policing, which we've all realized across the political spectrum to be a problematic area >> absolutely. okay stay with us still plenty to cover, including our favorite, the blueberry pie award. and as we go to break, a special shout out to republican linda paulson of utah.

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tesla ceo elon musk last week completed the $44 billion deal to take control of twitter. meanwhile, a lot of his customers are still trying to take control of their teslas >> thank you for joining us for our end of the year celebration, and of course we are looking back on the year that was in politics it's time for a "politics nation" favorite the alfred c. sharpton blueberry pie lifetime achievement award every year we look around and ask who has the most blueberry pie on their face. this year, herschel walker gets his choice of blueberry pie or

peach cobbler. we ended up learning more about walker's family tree than his political views during his two failed campaigns for georgia senate this year and former heisman trophy winner, it can't have been much fun being sacked by former president barack obama >> mr. walker has been talking about issues that are of great importance to the people of georgia. like whether it's better to be a vampire or a werewolf. this is a debate that i must confess i once had myself. when i was 7 then i grew up >> my second pick is the likely next speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy you don't normally get this

award for winning. but with a much narrower than expected republican advantage in the house mccarthy now finds himself having to constantly placate the most extreme members of his caucus. and with trump already running again for the white house, mccarthy won't spend a single day in charge where he's not having to respond to the former guy's antics it's a sticky situation. and finally, we cannot forget elon musk. so i'm giving him a slice too. we might never know whether to being there was serious in his bid for twitter. but he bought it he broke it. and this return policy is null and void with hate speech exploding and employees fleeing for the exits

it seems the only thing sinking is musk's bank account susan, anyone else you see with a blueberry pie on their face this year? >> i mean, i would have to say anyone who worked for donald trump in taking care of those documents probably would qualify. and there's quite a few. i mean, he is just unraveling. but the elon musk is really interesting, rev i hadn't thought about that. and why to me i really want to focus on it is because the other two, herschel walker, that's this year. kevin mccarthy, he can't really be effective he's one house republican right now. but elon musk and the hate speech has just really affected our society in a different way and i think the legacy that he's created is really dangerous and one that will put a lot of

people frankly in harm and that concerns me >> danielle. >> it's elon musk for me all the way. because also i don't think that elon musk broke twitter. i think that he is doing with it what he intended for it to do. it was the global community's town hall and he wanted to destroy it it is where organizers went. it is where activists and journalists have gone to create movements. right? and to give voice to people who don't have access. and so he wanted to destroy that and he did a great job of doing so because right now when i look in my comments there are a barrage of hateful disgusting racist things that we see that we weren't seeing several months ago. so what does that -- it makes people like m he make a decision do i continue to use my voice or do i go someplace else and either way he wins >> yeah, i'm actually with everybody here, that herschel walker's an example of democracy actually having worked kevin mccarthy's an example of

democracy complicating his life as speaker so we've still got those two things that are pillars of democracy at work. elon musk is in charge of a platform upon which democracy depends. in other words, our democracy depends on an informed electorate twitter's making people dumb and hateful. and i'm worried about the effect that's going to have on the future we need good dialogue. we need honest debate. and what elon musk, who i think is one of the smart jest guys in the world has done is set us back he needs to read a pamphlet on the first amendment or we need to send him one of those pocket constitutions to explain what the first amendment is and i worry about where that's going. >> anyone else with blueberry pie on their face? >> these are pretty good >> donald trump. donald trump has all the pie on his face donald trump's organization has been, you know -- >> convicted >> has been convicted on 17 charges. donald trump has -- you know, we found that he held documents in his home at mar-a-lago

donald trump at some point, he has a special counsel that has been appointed to investigate. he's going to be referred for criminal charges i mean, donald trumpis the pie right? we're just waiting, you know, for the indictment >> anyone else nfl owners >> oh. oh, jesse jones. he was just young, rev, as you know he was just a kid, as they say awhite supremist segregationis child. >> i'm going to add tommy tuberville for the rally he did in arizona that was beyon but he went out there, and i'm telling you, to me, that could have easily have been a kkk rally than a republican campaign rally, because that was -- that was really -- and it wasn't long lasting, but to me that speech

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center here's your host, al sharpton. >> okay, we're wrapping things up here at the revvies, ending with a look at our judges' great expectations, their predictions for 2023 now, remember what you can say is on tape and will be served against you next year. who wants to go first? >> all right -- go. >> you go ahead. >> 2020 ends hopefully to me for one big reason, and that is for the last several years, in your case the last 60 years you have been talking about something called democracy there are always people who are interested and always people who say, i got a job, i got a life, i can't worry about democracy. democracy came important again to people, even if it didn't affect them in 2022 -- in 2022 part that is roe vs. wade. part of that is it's a

continuation of social justice movements. but most was the midterms. people said, i can hold two thoughts -- i'm worried about inflation, but also worry about democracy. we can go into 2023 saying, we can discuss the bigger issues as well as the smaller ones that affect you day-to-day. >> danielle? >> i have to agree i'm always ye of little hope i always say i carry around a mustard seed of hope but i believe more people in this country, more americans have become conscious of the citizenry, have become responsible in understanding that their votes matter, right their voices matter and that they need to show up, and when they do, they can hold people's feet to the fire we were bracing ourselves for amidterms that would be disastrous and it wasn't why wasn't it? because people show up they realized politics does

matter to day-to-day lyes. i go into 2023 -- >> young people showed up, they said they wouldn't, old people did. >> and republicans in georgia. >> and they did and they stood in line, so i think that we go into 2023 with a conscious and responsible citizenry that is ready to take on the gaslighters. >> susan. >> just to follow up on that, it's also important to recognize that 2022 midterm elections, we didn't have violence that was predicted. that to me meant -- this should be considered normal, by the way, but there was a lot of fear about violence, and for the most part republican, even election deniers, admit they lost herschel walker said, i lost it's a great point to where democracy is i'm going make a prediction, because i always like to go big on your show, even though i have

been wrong a couple times. is that this time next year, donald trump will not be a candidate for president. >> oh. >> really? >> but not until the end of the year, so -- >> hopefully before we record the revvies for 2023. >> will he be in prison? will he be indicted? >> i cannot say. >> why are you predicting that >> because i think between -- especially with his legal troubles, i think that there's a potential that he could make a deal that maybe he pleads down to some other charges that would prevent him. >> and he doesn't run. >> it keeps him from running for office it could also be he knows he's going to lose. he doesn't like to lose. and frankly he doesn't have to run to cause trouble in 2024. >> ohher he'll cause trouble. >> he's going to cause it. >> who's the candidate >> do not know -- that's what the magic 8 ball says. check back later >> all right, we've got you on tape that does it for us.

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