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what it breakaway, but if yo just look right now who is threatening kevin mccarthy speakership? it's not really the davi valadao's and don bacons people who are separate from trump, it's the trump wing no cases those are the ones that ar threatening to overthrow mccarthy, those are the ones that are getting concessions about these investigations into the fbi, into the mar-a-lago, raid into the 16 committee. so for now, that's still where the power center is within the party, then of course you ca see that weakening, but within the party writ large, and in the conference >> tim miller and aspen saying have a great, night that is al in on this tuesday night, alex wagner starts right now, wit alicia menendez in for alex. good evening, alicia good evening to you chris, goo evening to you all at home, i' really cement, endless - christmas eve is really th coldest night on capitol in th state capital, by the time the temperature went down, temperatures were hovering around 18 degrees. it was this, night we all abou welcoming the stranger, when the republan gov texas decided epositmigrant asyo them chi on a fr cold sidewalrth to g three ses fih more than 100rants rived in d c., late saturday where presidents officsidence. they wsent ty th republicannor seexas greg abbott, to make a political point oft' the buses were filled with miliesth children, man dothis is reliefncy mego thgrantse vice ent's n they clot, and blanketsthey htipped b er, who ure thmigrants didive i
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t. "alex waonight" starts with alicia menendez in for alex >> good morning, chris i'm alicea menendez, alex is off, christmas eve, one of the coldest nights in our nation's capital. by the time the sun went down, temperatures were hovering around 18 degrees. it was this night, one of the coldest nights of the year, the season all about welcoming the stranger as the republican governor of texas decided to deposit a number of migrant asylum seekers, including children three buses filled with migrants arrived in d.c. late saturday night, where they were unceremoniously dropped off at the vice president's official residence. they were sent there by the republican governor of texas, greg abbott, to make a political point about what is happening at the southern border. the buses are filled with families and children, many of them wearing nothing warmer than a t-shirt. governor abbott did not tell anybody ahead of time he was going to do this, but agents met them in front of the vice president's home when they arrived to welcome them with food and warm clothing and blankets they have been tipped off by another ngo working along the border to make sure the migrants
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did not arrive on christmas eve with no one to help them and then drove the migrants to a nearby church to welcome them to america. a member of the relief organization spoke to a local abc affiliate on saturday. >> it really does show the cruelty behind governor abbott and his insistence on continuing to bus people here without care, about, you know, people, late at night, on christmas eve, in weather that is so cold. people are getting off the buses, they don't have coats don't have clothes for this kind of weather, and they're freezing >> they're freezing. republican party purports to be the party of family, christian values but this is how republican governor greg abbott chose to celebrate his christmas eve. the crisis of his own invention. it was the first time that a republican politician has pulled this kind of stunt in the name of protecting our borders, not even the first time that advocates fell for bussing a
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group of migrants to be dropped off at the vice president's door step florida governor ron desantis, too, he used taxpayer money this year to charter two planes to fly migrants to martha's vineyard the migrants were told they were headed to boston they did not know until they landed that the republican from florida had sent them to an island 90 miles away and governor ducey spent the last months of his term, building a fake border wall out of metal shipping containers it cost the taxpayers $82 million. back in texas, governor abbott has started to militarize on the national guard troop with rifles and barbed wires republicans have pretended to portray the stunts as acts of protest, in order to start a
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conversation about what they say is an immigration crisis in this country. dropping off bugses of migrants on the sidewalk in freezing cold on christmas eve those aren't solutions or answers or caring for thy neighbor no, it's about raw politics and to further their own political self-interests greg abbott, ron desantis, and doug ducey, they're all tries to showcase their position to position themselves for the presidential race it in 2024 they are using human beings as political footballs. building boxes on federal land, building barbed wire fences. that's not well-intentioned efforts of immigration reform. they're trying to win the base to boost their chances for the primaries. and republicans are stoking the embers of a self-made crisis against the backdrop of what has been a crisis for migrant seeking asylum in the united states back in 2020, at the start of
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the pandemic, donald trump enacted an arcane law, title 42, allowing to seek asylum for the purpose of public health and the border anyone fleeing from danger, seeking refuge in this country over 1 is million migrants have been turned away at the border crossing this month, title 42 was set to expire as they were cueing up at the southern border. a group of republican lawmakers sued the biden administration to try to keep the law in effect indefinitely the case now before the supreme court. and just tonight there was a big development, the supreme court ruled that the policy of turning away asylum seekers will stay in place until the court will fully consider the case. title 42 is not immigration policy meant for extended use.
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it's a public health measure that republicans are now using as political codgel. and how christian of you joins us joaquin castro, congressman, thank you for joining us first, i want to get your reaction of the supreme court upholding title 42 while they consider the case. what does that meanpractically >> well, it means that title 42 is going to stay in place for several more months, at least until next june. i actually agree with justice gorsuch a conservative supreme court justice, who said that title 42 is not meant to deal with the border, it's meant to deal with covid. it's ironic that they're using title 42, a health emergency
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provision to do what they're doing at the border when a lot of these people didn't even take covid seriously. they never treated it like an emergency, and yet, they're using the policy on the board. >> your tweet this weekend really struck a nerve reacting to governor abbott's decision to send migrants to the vice president door step. tell me about your reaction when you first saw the images? >> you know, like a lot of people in politaoliticpolitics,y was not on social media on christmas eve. i was trying to enjoy the night with my family i glanced at the video that you're showing now and read what was going on and i was so upset that greg abbott, because he thinks he can become president, and because these guys like abbott and desantis are so drunk on trumpness, that they're trying to be as mean and as cruel as they possibly can. and to dump these people off in 18 degree weather. you see the video there, that
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young boy just has a sweatshirt on a sweatshirt you think of all of the parents, when parents and their kids, 40 degrees, and 18 degree weather a little kid with a sweatshirt on, and you're just going to dump him near the side of the road because you want to show how tough you are and you want to be meaner than ron desantis because you believe that's the way to win in the era of donald trump i mean, it's just heartless. it's completely heartless. and it also demonstrates that the republican party, they really didn't have any solution. i used to give some of these guys the benefit of doubts that maybe in their heart of hearts, or mind of minds, they're really trying to reach a solution they're just trying to be mean they're just trying to demonstrate how tough they are and they're trying to play to a certain base and there is a sizeable base of the republican party that eats this stuff up. you see it all over twitter and
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social media, that's part of what fuels these guys. >> and you have this anti-immigrant behavior in the lead up to 2024, i wonder what you think the antidote to that is >> well, the ultimate antidote is vote as many of these people out of office as you can it's to win the democratic election it's to organize but you would hope that the republican party also would correct itself at some point that they would get out of this era of donald trump and, you know, take a lesson from the 2022 elections where they were supposed to win all of these seats, that it was going to be a red wave and then they got beat you know, they got pushed back by the american people but, you know, you still see greg abbott doing what he's doing. >> you've heard all of the same rhetoric that i've heard and let someone like governor abbott and other republican governors what they're actually doing is standing up for people in their
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state. creating a false choice. like you can only do one or the other, and i wonder what your retort is to that appeal >> well, first of all there was something that happened in the past through weeks that happened with the border. a few things, first of all, i introduced a bill to control the small arcs trafficking the arms that go to mexico so they're not threatened by the drug lords who have all of the weapons make it safer for them to stay. the bigger thing was, the congress actually in the omnibus bill passed $2 billion to handle the situation at the border, including offering economic relief to cities in texas like mcallen and del rio and san antonio that are dealing with the situation. politico wrote an article a few days ago how san antonio has
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been a model in being able to help migrants get to their destination. a lot of them have family members here they're trying to get to their family members hundreds of thousands of people have been sent from the border areas to san antonio over the last few years, and the city, our mayor and the city, and catholic charities and other organizations have not taken them and dumped them on the side of the road. they've actually helped to get to family members by bus or by plane. you can do it in a way that is humane and doesn't get everybody riled up and is sufficient >> and with a fraction of the u.s. immigration policy, we're actually talking about a much bigger broader system. do you think the upcoming congress can get anything done that actually addresses some of the systemic issues that we see when it comes to immigration in america? >> yeah, look. we absolutely could. you've got a democratic president. a democratic senate and a republican house so, i've seen in the past, where
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you have divided government like that, it actually provides an opportunity for compromise and for people to come together and sit at the table and work ogg out. it's going to take a lot better faith by republicans to actually do something from immigration than actually using the chaos, creating chaos, and using that as the number one boogieman, which is what they do now, it's the number one boogieman >> i wonder what your message is to the abbotts, to the duceys and desantis >> well, i would ask them to stop being -- to stop being heartless to solve the challenge than just becoming the next republican president >> congressman joaquin castro, thank you for your time this evening. much more to come on this busy evening, including a republican, a republican has
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♪ this afternoon, the january 6th committee released another trove of transcripts from interviews conducted with 16 witnesses during this investigation. we now know in the days after the january 6th attack, treasury secretary steve munchen began looking into the process of removing office into office by the 25th amendment and discussing the 25th amendment on at least one occasion with trump's secretary of state mike pompeo
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we also learned from the new transcripts in the days after january 6th trump's labor secretary, eugene scalia, who scalia thought was the most loyal member of the cabinet. quote, i thought the appropriate answer was me. so i said, i am, mr. president scalia told those and laughed in the room and scalia said elaine chao called him january 6 about her intention to resign. i think she believed that in one manner or another, the president's conduct prior to the attack on the capitol contributed in one way or another to what happened and the infamous phone call asking him to find 11,000 votes was a threat raffensperger said trump's followers would carry out that threat if he did not comply.
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and perhaps one of the interesting things we learned was the star witness cassidy hutchinson, former aide to mark meadows. it's part of the interview with the vice chair liz cheney, q quote, liz cheney, did you see mr. meadows put documents in his fireplace? cassidy hutchinson, yes, ma'am miss cheney, and do you know what the documents were? hutchinson replies i don't know. and miss cheney, how frequently did you see him do this? miss hutchinson, i mean, it's hard, i want to say once a week or twice, i can recall specific times that i did maybe a dozen, just maybe over a dozen, trump white house chief of staff mark meadows was regularly throwing white house documents into the fireplace, in the period directly before and after january 6th. now, we don't know what was in
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those documents that mark meadows was burning. but cassie hutchinson does go to describe several incidents in which meadows burned documents after meeting with pennsylvania congressman scott perry, trump ally who apparently sought a pardon from trump in his role for trying to overturn the election quote, miss hutchinson, quote, i know between two and four times meadows had mr. perry in his office right before burning the documents? miss cheney, do you know what mr. perry was talking to him about? election issues. miss cheney, anything more specific than? and answer, the vice president's role january 6th i got to tell you that mental image of mark meadows burning documents after peting with
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scott perry, it sticks out i want to know what you think of the revelation of today's transcripts? >> well, with that particular incident that we learned about today really brings into the public record something that we had only heard about before. politico had previously reported that particular incident but it's much more powerful to see it on the record from hutchinson with the transcripts. at the same time, what the transcripts reveal are the limitations of the january 6th committee investigation. we never heard in mark meadows himself directly so the committee was never able to ask him about what was in those documents. the committee never heard directly from republican members of congress. so congressman scott perry was never specifically asked in that setting about those documents. and so, the torch isn't something that is just passed on to doj which is carrying on from the committee. and we know that the doj already
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seized congressman scott perry's phone as part of the larger investigation of january 6th it remains to be seen exactly how that will shake out. >> we're going to talk about that in a minute with barbara clay one of the things came about, the bizarre meeting at the white house. for those who didn't pore over those documents, can you reexplain what happened? >> there's a bizarre scene that hutchinson describes where it appears there were these republican members of the house intelligence committee were bringing these documents into the white house and then trying to pass them on to folks there and hutchinson testified that, you know, these were very closely held so closely held, in fact, that meadows tried to get copies of them to leader mccarthy. and mccarthy didn't actually want them. we don't actually know the substance of this but the time frame kind of lines up with the russia investigation and when trump, you know, might have been tried --
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mass-declassify documents. so, again, this is where we run into some of the same issues with the rest of the committee's investigation. they weren't quite able to penetrate every single barrier thrown up. and this is kind of a black box for them >> well, to that point, trump has promised pardons to capitol rioters if he was re-elected i wonder what you made in the revelation of one of the transcripts, the trump asked pat cipollone for blanket pardons for people involved in the capitol attack >> that was a pretty startling revelation, johnny mcatee, at the white house, at that point in time, was close to the president in charge of personnel at the white house, he testified about hearing that that trump had quoted blanket pardons for people involved in nonviolent actions on january 6th and the white house counsel pretty quickly shut that down.
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and it tracks with other reporting that we've heard from the white house at that time, and reporting that we've seen, you know, in the last two years or so. at the same time, this is pat of the january 6th committee's addition to the historical record, being able to see the sworn testimony from members of the president's inner circle about what was happening in the days after the attack. >> and a lot of the entry is in the details. i wonder someone who has gone through this, page by page, what else stuck out to you. >> well, what stands out to me are some of the interesting little efforts that we see aren't necessarily bombshells like that, but, you know, as someone whose been watching politics for the last few years just helped to shed a lot more light. so, for example, former white house press aide judd deer had testified about the bizarre twist at the end of the trump administration normally, there's a schedule they put out and it changed at the end of the trump
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administration to just say that the president was taking many meetings and many calls. and deer found out what the white house had scheduled was public and he changed that and that solved one of the bizarre mysteries from the end of the administration. >> so many bizarre mysteries, nicholas wu, thank you for joining us i want to turn to barbara mcclain. barb, thanks for being with us you looked at the transcripts today. what stood out to you? >> well, the thing you read the report with, about the number of cabinet officials concerned about looking into the 25th amendment. in i dig a little deeper into that, there are opinions, there are views, it's one thing, but in terms of relevance to a criminal case, understanding what was motivating that i think can be very important.
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finding out that they, too, heard things from donald trump about insurrection, or stolen election so, i think that's a red flag that i'd want to probe into a little deeper. >> it's pretty amazing someone so well resourced worked at the white house found out that google was the best resource to figuring out the -- i want to get your response from cassie hutchinson's testimony that mark meadows was burning documents in the fireplace, in his office, specifically, the timing around the meetings he was having, and then the discussion to burn documents? >> yeah, well, we don't know what's in those documents, but it's a real red flag because, when -- certainly, white house officials need to dispose of documents from time to time. they receive classified documents but they have shredders for that purpose and they are then taken in custody, and they're dealt with in a way that preserves their chain of custody so they don't get into the wrong hands burning something is so incredibly reckless from a
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number of skills that it really does raise more questions than it answers i'll tell you, mark meadows is such the key it all of this, i would be thinking very hard to find a way to flip him he's got criminal exposure when it comes to donald trump >> and the justice department, vast amount of evidence from the committee, i wonder how soon you expect them to decide whether or not to charge trump? the question that you and i constantly come back to. >> well, i think it's going to take some sometime, for one, they've got to pore through all of these things. and it's likely they're going to be looking for consistencies or inconsistencies from the transcripts from what they've heard from the transcripts and want to see if there are leads here and then they're going to see if there are people they can flip. it's likely to contrive the timing, it doesn't as what they
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have to do, but the timing on the other end. you certainly can't get to january 2025 when the new administration will shut things down if you have a trial and discovery and all things that go into it, i think you have to work your way back if i was setting a deadline, i'd tell people, spring of 2023 really is the deadline you need to be working with to work very hard and trump could be gone by then. >> let me tease out something that you said in there which is i wonder how trump's looming announcement to run for president, now that impacts how they proceed, or the time line on which they proceed. >> you know, the justice department has a policy that says that you should never take investigative steps for the purpose of influencing an election so, out of abundance to caution, i think most prosecutors read that as even having the effects on influencing an election as a result, there's a rule of
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about 60 days before an election, doj will fly low and cooling off period but i don't read that as until the first few days of the first primary election which will be january of 2024. so, i would say in terms of policy, whether it's november 1st or so of 2023, but, again, as you said earlier, i think as a practical matter, they need to see the deadline as more of spring of 2023, so they can get the pretrial discovery in motion, and a trial done before the administration of 2025 >> here's the thing i wonder, even as i read some of these transcripts out loud for our audience, we know the release of them is going to help doj in its investigation. there's a lot of information here but i wonder, you know, trump and his allies, they can see this evidence. what does that then mean for trump's defense? what is his team doing right now with this material >> yeah, this is terrible from
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the doj perspective with the testimony out there in the ether. i think there's a number of things that can happen, one is trump's team can review the documents and try to get their own witnesses to line up their stories to watch the witnesses who have already testified so there's a real danger there they could intimidate witnesses. if they know there's a witness who has given diynamite stuff, they may offer incentives and threaten that person s and it a also cause other people to come forward if they knoll the testimony is out there the last thing it allows trump and his team to start spinning a narrative for the jury pool down the road, either trying to block the work undermining the presidency so it's nota good situation fore justice department, but it is what it is
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and it's public and out there for trump and his team >> the glass is half empty and half full. barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney, thank you for taking time tonight much more to come, including a day of reckoning for former president trump is now on the calendar and the house republican promised he would come clean on the varied lies he told before coming into congress and he did but there are so many more that republican and house leaders have to answer next. your 995 plan fits my budget just right. excuse me? aren't you jonathan from tv, that 995 plan? yes, from colonial penn. i love your lifetime rate lock. that's what sold me. she thinks you're jonathan, with the 995 plan.
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about his own life and background. santos has broken his silence to fox news and admitted he did indeed lie about some of the things he's accused of lying about. like pretending he worked at major wall street firm that he never worked at and pretending to have graduated from college. he told the "new york post," quote, i own up to that, we do stupid things in life. but somehow managed to do a mea culpa interview without the biggest lies. he insists he's not wanted for any crime, but offers no explanation for the criminal case against him in brazil for check fraud. he said he never claimed to be jewish, even though he did, in fact, he claimed to be jewish in a speech to a jewish coalition just last month. at that same event, house republican leader kevin mccarthy bragged about santos growing the ranks of jewish republicans in
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congress. >> i really want to talk about who's the make-up of this new majority. you heard from some of them already. max miller in ohio, george santos in new york. and david castof of tennessee get re-elected. he introduced him. do you realize we have the largest republican jewish caucus in 40 years, not bad, huh? >> the jewish coalition said that george santos is not welcome at any of his future events because of his lies. and then there are questions that santos has not answered at all, chief among them, where did he get the $700,000 loan for his campaign? a couple years ago he was evicted and fined because he apparently couldn't pay his rent. he's now admitted he doesn't own the 13 properties he claimed to own with his family. it's worth noting the republican party has had a problem with this sort of thing lately. the republican candidate in the
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ninth district lied repeatedly about his military service. another republican house candidate in minnesota also falsified a claim to have been in combat. now, they both lost their races. and jurors, georgia u.s. senate candidate herschel walker lied about everything from his businesses to college degrees, being a member of law enforcement, he lost also. george santos appears to have created entire sections of biography. and george santos won. so what happens now? santos could face legal consequences if he lied not just to voters but on financial forms filed with the federal government. in september, he claimed in federal filings to have a net worth of $11 million which the local paper called quote, an inexplicable ride. two years earlier he claimed no assets worth over $5,000. and whether there are expectations for george santos inside congress, republican
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though at least one incoming house republican has called for an investigation into george santos, republican leaders largely remain silent on the growing controversy for any incoming new york congressman's fabrication of his story. for a few reasons, leadership demands that santos resign and follow through, it would trigger a an election. it went to joe biden in 2020 potentially impacting the narrow majority that republicans are slated to hold. and additionally, republicans are set to vote for kevin mccarthy next week. you well know, mccarthy is in a precarious situation where he might not have enough votes to win the speakership. any little better can make the difference for him.
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republican house leadership has failed to respond to requests from "the new york times" sin they broke the story. they haven't released any statements on the matter either. according to the paper, quote, apparently house leadership has appeared to perceive mr. santos' situation is problematic but has justified a lack of public condemnation. and they've stopped sort of calling for resignation, and the county republican joseph cairo said he's deeply disappointed in the background and experience. so clear with george santos or house republicans as they prepare to resume the majority next week. joining us michael gold for "the new york times," covering politics in new york. he's one of the reporters that
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first broke the story in national media. michael, thank you for being here. >> thanks for being here. >> all right. there's so much reporting to walk through here, when you have a story like this where do you start? >> sure. we start by making statements that congressman-elect had made on the campaign trail and shifting biographies over the two campaigns one of the two things we zeroed in on, this charity, friends of pets united and registered with the irs and my colleague grace checked with the irs. and from there, we hoped to talk to people about mr. santos' time on wall street. he presented himself as a financier, a big wall street guy, we reached out to goldman sachs, and the two places he said he worked that would help us locate his co-workers. both companies said they had no record of him. from there, we started paying more attention to the other
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points of the biography. >> yeah. there's sort of a lot of work here. >> yeah, he ran in tom suozzi, and santos ran again and there was attention to the race because there was an open seat. and he's admitted to some of the inconsistencies that we've uncovered. there are other things that he hasn't addressed, but i think there's been a lot of statements that he's made that have shifted over time. >> there are a lot of things we don't know about which i promise we'll come back to, but i'm also struck by this dynamic which is you have gop house leadership wanting to remain silent. admitting quietly it's problematic, but not really wanting to get out there and talk about it. and yet, you have people who are not even sworn into congress, going out there saying i think this is a problem, i think we need an ethics investigation. i wonder if other republicans
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will follow. >> it's hard to say. i should say we reached out to representative mccarthy and house republicans since the story was first published. we haven't heard from them. it was striking to see nick la the low tax a congressman in a neighboring congressman, we were expecting that. and anthony esposito also raised questions and said there are questions that santos needed to answer and be honest to voters. we're starting to see pressure, at least down on long island. i think the question, whether we see more that, whether it increases over time, and whether it's a long time or not time at all, it's hard to say. >> well, there are two questions here, right? does house leadership come out and say something and there's really the bigger question if you have a congress that is led by republicans and you have an ethics committee that is run by republicans whether or not
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they're interested in pursuing this materially? >> it's hard to say what happened. i don't cover the hill. my expertise is here in new york. we're certainly trying to get information about what happened not just with the house ethics committee but the bipartisan congressional ethics. dan goldman, incoming congressman in new york city, has said there's enough material for federal prosecutors to investigate. there's certainly calls for investigations from all sides. >> let me talk to you about your expertise which you are covering new york. you did have papers in long island, local papers looking into this, but it was "the new york times" that brought this out. i wonder what the conversations are with your colleagues about the fact that george santos is not granting interviews or answering your questions. >> sure, grace ashford and i reached out to mr. santos, never got an answer, we were told he was not interested in speaking
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to us. i can't speak to why that why that might be. it's interesting, that he would tell a story, he's given four interviews that i can count to local news and fox outlets. it's good to have his voice on the record. there's questions we would like to ask. >> you brought me perfectly to that. let's talk about the questions. to your point, he now done a full slate of interviews, and even with those interviews there are still many questions that remain answered. which are top of mind for you? >> to be honest, we still haven't gotten a full accounting for the friends of pets charity. and the questions about how mr. santos was able to reverse his financial fortunes. >> that seems like a core part of all of this. >> just to walk you through, in mid-2010s, he was facing eviction, credit card debt,
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thousands of debt has added up over time. these are court filings, but he's acknowledged this. he filed a disclosure saying $55,000 a year was his salary. but when he filed a disclosure, he said he was making $700,000 from the organization which is his own personal business and the company was paying dividends of 1 to $5 million. that's a significant change. he's not fully explained how his business works. he described it as a local outlet here in new york as a consulting firm. we're not sure to anybody who has a member of congress representing them, you want to know when the businesses are. >> it's interesting when we're living in a moment where we would like more transparency, more generally, from our elected officials that this is the standard that's been set. i wonder to your point about the fact that the pressure is really actually coming locally. if you see as a pressure point that could tip this?
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>> yeah, you know, i don't know, i can't predict the future. one of the things that has resonated with people is the claims that mr. santos made about his jewish ancestry and that his grandparents left in world war ii. i bring that up, that's something that has rankled a lot of people. once that story came out, with it, that's when we see that going up here. >> thank you for the time tonight. >> thanks. and we have one more story for you just ahead, key information that former president trump tried to keep secret about to be made public. what he doesn't want you to see and when you'll get to see it. that is next. stay with us.
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this is a citation x private jet. it has nine seats, very fast. and you might recognize this one in particular because former president trump used it extensively for the 2016 campaign trail. but here's the thing, trump doesn't actually own this plane directly. he owns a trust. that trust owns a limited liability corporation called dt endeavour 1 llc. and that llc owns this plane. now get this, in this l its 2016 taxes that llc claimed a total gross income of 680,886. and total spences of 680,886.
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the same act number. and the same for the trump llc owns a hospital. and just the $400,000 that melania trump supposedly earned from modeling in 2019. somehow, a lot of trump-related businesses seem to conveniently end up with the exact same amount of income and expenses. other of trump's businesses like the llc that owns trump force one gold-plated 757 jet which i should mention trump has managed to use entities like his own campaign and secret service to funnel money toward, that llc somehow ended up with no income to report. a couple thousand of dollars in dispenses. convenient, convenient and
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suspicious. the whole bucket worth of red flags just one of many that the house committee reported last week. that committee only had their hands on trump's taxes for about 20 days. a limited amount of staff were not shy about how they could not have caught everything wrong with them. we can now report that the house ways and means committee will be publishing the entirety of trump's taxes from 2015 to 2020 this friday. buckle up, the crowd source portion of this is getting ready for takeoff. there's likely more turbulence ahead. that does it for us tonight. we're going to
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