there is due process. i think you already made an important point about how it's not stopping people from coming. decreasing the number of encounters because people don't get asylum, they're going to come back desperate to at least get one hearing. title 40 doesn't give you a hearing whatsoever, even if you present. >> one of the lawyers on this a very complicated case, thank you very much for making time for us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> i have to say, i was raised catholic, and there's one thing a takeaway for my catholic childhood, people that are scared, tired, lonely, and cold, in a strange land of the people who we should be caring for. that cold in a strange land are people we should be caring for that is all in, "alex wagner tonight" starts tonight with alicia menendez on for alex. good evening. >> good evening, chris.

i could have not said that better myself. i'm alicia men menez, alex has the night off. here's a thing that has happened every day like clock work, as long as we can remember. every day the white house sends out from the white house the daily guidance. at the top, there's a few paragraphs describing what the president's day will entail. and below that, there's a schedule of the major events planned. with the daily intelligence briefing, any major meetings, the timing of any travel that the president is doing. the white house puts out the daily guidance that so the press can plan and that you can make out every day. it's something done every day every white house under every president. just a couple of weeks at the end of donald trump's

presidency, something weird happened. the white house issued daily guidance that said president trump will work from early in the morning to late in the evening. he will make many calls and have many meetings and then mention about a campaign rally was he was doing, he would make many calls and have many meetings. many thought this was the staff covering for the fact that the president weeks before leaving office simply stopped working. but now, thanks to the transcripts released by the january 6th committee, we know that the explanation is even more ridiculous. according to a transcript of the committee's interview with one of trump's dispute press secretaries, donald trump know the white house guidance existed until the last weeks of his term. upon learning that his schedule was being made public, he personally insisted on the way the schedule was provided.

quote, every evening, beginning sometime around mid to late diercks the president discovered that, for the first time, my understanding that we released a public schedule his to the public. he wanted to change the way we did that. it was started and language was, trump, quote, personally had approved that we could disseminate about his public schedule. when all the riveting and sobering and disturbing things we have learned from the january 6th committee investigation and their transcripts there also gems like these. while we learned that donald trump was trying to overturn an election to cling to power through undemocratic means also time to micromanage white house press releases, to make sure people knew he was working, quote, really hard. but here's a serious question about these transcripts. the january 6th committee releases these transcripts day by day. batch by batch. of all of the interviews they conducted, we are getting all of

the new insights into the evidence that the committee collected in their investigation. trump's chief of staff would leave documents trump wanting to give pardons for january 6 rioters. and trump's secretary google the 25th president after the attack on the capitol, this is all good knowledge for to us have as citizens. the committee's work is also making its way into criminal cases around january 6th. just today, a federal judge cited the january 6th report for the first time in the case of a january 6th rioter ruling that trump may have been urging his supporters to break the law when he sent them to the capitol that day. it was a remarkable moment of transparency to see all of the investigative work that our congress has done made available to the public. we expect to city more and more transcripts released in the coming days. what does it mean for the ongoing justice department january 6th to have all of the

transcripts out in the public domain now. doj and the january 6th committee have gone back and forth for months about whether and how much the committee is sharing their work with the department, back in may, the committee refused a justice department request of transcripts for interviews. then they said they would stop sharing them. as recently as a month ago, attorney general merrick garland seemed to suggest that they haven't gotten everything. while the justice department has long awaited to share the information with them but not so publicly. joining me chuck rosenberg, a former cia top official. chuck, thank you for being here. obviously, january 6, they've been released a lot of transcripts of thousands of interviews that they conducted over the course. can you tell us why the january 6th committee doing that and the doj on the attack?

>> so the committee has to be transparent, they want to show their work. that's what i used to do on middle school math, i got some credit for showing the work, but got the wrong answer. with dumping into the public domain, it's useful, but it's also useful to look at it from the perspective of the justice department. the justice department when they're doing investigations does not show its work. for a bunch of simple reasons but let me just mention two. >> yeah. >> and they're both implicated by what's going on now. the justice department does not want witnesses seeing what other witnesses said. because if you do that, witness a. and witness b. and witness c. can all tailor their stories and get their stories together, not helpful. then there's a second thing,

more nefarious and potentially dangerous, we saw back to the mueller report, volume 2 described this huge pattern of obstructive conduct by the president and folks around him. you don't want vulnerable witnesses intimidated, harassed or worse. so the department of justice absolutely wanted the transcripts. they just didn't want them dumped into the public domain. and understanding the respect of the institutional perspectives, i think, helps explain what's going on here. >> to your point, to the first point that you made of the possibility of people tailoring their testimony based on others' testimony. still, if they testified before the 1-6 committee, it would have to track with what they told the committee? >> well it would have to track, except for one thing that you would always see as a prosecutor or an investigator which is people sometimes, and sort of

faultlessly get details wrong, they remember things in interview three that they didn't mention in interview one. that happens all the time. discrepancies always occur. the way i think about it, alicia, it's some said that people are telling the truth. they're struggling to remember things. they say "a" and then not "a." that's okay, but what will happen here with a thousand-plus transcripts being dumped into the public sphere is that defense attorneys, many of them honorable, some of them less so, are going to spend a lot of time seeing what witnesses said about their potential clients. and that's what worries me. there's a reason the justice department doesn't do its investigations publicly. there's a reason congress does. again, they have different institutionalal interests. like dumping stuff into the public domain can put people at risk and help people tailor their stories to one another.

not a good thing. >> here's a thing, chuck, we know the doj asked for transcripts and did not receive them, and now the committee is releasing them to the public. i wonder if the department of justice would have made their concerns clear to the committee in advance, and how would those kinds of conversations even play out? >> well, i imagine they did. and more so, alicia, a number of senior staff on the committee are former federal prosecutors and very good ones, they would have understood the different institutional interests. i know at least congressman schiff, perhaps others, congressman schiff was a federal prosecutor in california. he would have understood the different institutional interests. so, it's hard for me to imagine that the department of justice didn't tell the committee what it preferred. and that the committee didn't understand what the justice department preferred but again, the committee wanted to show its work. i get that. but it's not at all helpful

here. the committee said it wanted to cooperate with the department of justice. well, there are two ways it could have done that. at least two ways that come immediately to my mind. they could have given the justice department the transcripts months and months ago, and they could have done it quietly and privately. >> and on the -- take a listen -- we do not have that sound. i wonder if you think it's open and shut, chuck rosenberg? >> well, i saw what the committee presented. look, they did a compelling job. it was linear and cogent and thoughtful. but proving something in a committee room is very different than proving something in a federal courtroom. and i would really hesitate without seeing all of the stuff out there to tell you it's open and shut. it seems like there's good evidence, but proving it to a jury unanimously, to proof beyond a doubt, it's hard.

by the way, you know this, there's no judge, there's no cross-examination. there's no federal rules of evidence. there's no federal rules of criminal procedure, so very different venues. not only with different institutional interests, but with very different procedures. i would have been careful saying that anything is open and shut, without seeing all of the evidence. >> chuck rosenberg, i appreciate your appropriate caution as always from a u.s. attorney senior fbi official, chuck rosenberg, thank you for your time and expertise. we have a lot more to get to tonight including the republican party at a crossroads, do they stay the course and commit another trumpism or let it pass? when we come back, the holiday nightmare is far from over for thousands of americans with the airline at the center of the chaos. stay with us.

the four-letter word you're hearing is mess, m-e-s-s. you see all the luggage here, it made it finally. but the people didn't. >> you can see behind me right here, we have a sea of luggage here in the middle of the food court where they've set up a makeshift baggage claim area. >> and that's what keeps it today and yesterday. >> where the medicine and bags

are and still booked a separate flight to kansas city to get home. >> airports all across the country are overflowing with unclaimed luggage tonight. prosecut passengers have reported spending multiple days sifting through seas of luggage with little to no help from staff. at denver international alone there are more than 10,000 pieces of unclaimed luggage. all of this chaos, would you think we're in the middle last week's blizzard but we're not. this is caused by one airline southwest. according to the flight tracker flight aware, southwest has chanced 2500 flights alone. today with cancellations of all airlines combined is just over 00 flights. passengers are claiming claims

and wait times that last hours. and once passengers actual eye get through to customer service. these cancellations are not just annoyance, they're leaving travelers stranded. forcing many to figure out their food, hotel accommodations and alternate routes home. >> reporter: mike patel and several other family members flying southwest were stranded so he booked an allegiant flight to debt to des moines before driving home to omaha. >> four days stuck, we had to book this flight for 4,000, and then car rental, with uber, it's almost $10,000. >> i was supposed to connect in denver but they dropped as you off here and told us we have to reschedule our flight. >> reporter: now, you're stuck in a city where you know no one. >> i do not know no one here. i've never been to the city. it's just been really rough. >> reporter: adding to the

trouble, southwest said they're unable to offer food or hotel vouchers because they don't have contracts with any kansas businesses. he's had to pay out of his own pocket. >> it's not just passengers, the june representing southwest ground crews have released a statement saying their workers have worked 16-hour shifts and some have encountered frostbite to exposure to low temperatures. their members have been stuck sleeping at airports because they were unable to find hotel rooms. that is all on top of having to deal with thousands of angry customers every day. southwest ceo issued an apology last night saying that they are doing everything they can to return to a normal operation. that he is truly sorry. and today, southwest rolled out a new website specifically for travelers to commit requests for refunds. but the whole thing is such a

m-e-s-s -- mess, that washington is getting involved. transportation secretary pete buttigieg told my colleagues at "nbc nightly news" yesterday that he's going to hold southwest accountable. and give to customer us. and looking into the southwest debacle. what exactly is causing this issue at southwest where other airlines were fine. how do you fix this? joining us justin george, transportation reporter for "the washington post." justin, thank you so much for being with us. explain to us why is southwest such a mess right now? what happened? >> yeah, it's pretty staggering. it's basically a perfect storm of what happened here. you had antiquated sort of older scheduling systems. you have so many things, so many variables, you're working with when you talk about flights. you're talking about positioning airplanes and cries and pilots and runways and gates. and all of those things sort of

have to work together. well, according to employees, according to the union, according to analysts, southwest has been long working with out of date equipment. and they've been urging the airline to make an upgrade like many airlines have. and they haven't yet. they've been slow to do so, for whatever reason. and they've gotten by in the past, past storms, because they've been very centralized. they've been centralized in the state. their systems can sort of recover from that pretty quickly. or in a matter of days or so. but what happened is, we saw a massive winter storm here. a winter storm elliott that blanketed 60% of the nation and hit many airports many of them that obviously southwest serves. and that just caused a huge chain reaction, disruptions. stranded passengers, obviously, crews, pilots, planes. and as that information starts to come back in its systems

cannot handle it all. while the other airlines were able to get up and running, southwest wasn't. southwest had the most flights domestically. and they're sort of dealing with that. that huge weird storm and you have antiquated equipment that you're dealing with. >> then there's a third component, you reported on an internal memo that a vp of southwest sent a week ago, today, raising red flags about staffing shortages. why is that memo important here? how does that factor in? >> yeah. that occurred in denver with ground crew workers, apparently on december 21st. there was a big runup of people who are sick or calling out or taking personal days during the afternoon or evening. and that's about when the storm was hitting. so the vice president of southwest issued a state of emergency basically mandating that everybody has to go to work. if you're going to be sick, you needed a doctor's note. it wasn't good enough to have a telemedicine note. you needed to actually have a physical doctor tell you -- give

you a reason for being out. that's part of their union contract is what southwest tells me. they say it's unusual. southwest has maintained this whole time that they have not had any staffing shortages. and they were prepared for the storm. and, you know, it's difficult to say. because, clearly, with that area with the ground crew there in denver there was a shortage. there was enough of a short age for them to raise a state of emergency. just from what crew and other members are saying it does appear they had this staff and a problem of internal systems. you have pilots, passengers, customers everybody trying to call in, because the systems require a manual reporting and it just can't handle the amount of calls. >> justin george, investigation reporter from "the washington post" thank you for your time.

joining us david slotkin for points.com. david, thank you so much. you tweeted that people's lives are likely to be ruined by the southwest meltdown. what did you mean by that? >> well, thanks for having me. it's a very tough situation that a lot of passengers are going through right now. people are stranded. literally stranded. this is the busiest travel day of the year. there aren't a lot of seats available for people. it's hard to get rebooked on other airline. when it comes down to it, a lot of this including passengers that you showed earlier on the program really just have to way their own way. they're buying their own hotel rooms. they're buying their own alternate flights. and that's not something that everybody can afford. it's christmas, people travel with their families. people save up. this is their one flight of the year. they don't necessarily have money for a last-minute ticket for a family of five or a week in a hotel room while southwest gets its separation sorted.

so, you know, you know what i was getting at this is something that is real impact on real people. it's frustrating enough or terrible enough to miss christmas or to be stuck for a few days. >> i'm struck about the sound of the woman at the top who talked about the possibility of missing they are dialysis appointment. i guess a lot of people, what rights to people have when an airline messes up like this? >> and that's the real unfortunate thing, there aren't many rights that you're entitled to. in the number one thing you do get, no matter what, is refund on the flight that's cancelled but that doesn't cover your expenses. now southwest has said they're voluntarily choosing to consider reimbursing passengers for reasonable expenses. that's hotel, alternate transportation, food potentially. the thing is they don't have any obligation to do this. so it's going to be on a voluntary basis. we reached out to southwest

today, they told us that everything is going to be considered case by case. so what does that mean? if you don't really have the savings to be able to afford a situation like this, do you risk buying a last-minute flight that southwest may or may not be willing to reimburse. >> here's something you can help me understand, southwest said they're going to lower the number of flights for the next few days to reset and get back on track. how does that work? how do you get all of these stranded people to their destination with fewer flights? >> it's a very hard thing to do but it's going to take a few days to it. the key thing, too, southwest actually put a limit on their inventory so they're basically not selling flights for at least a few days as they work to cancel flights through at least friday. they're planning to cancel about two-thirds of their network. and the idea is they didn't want people booking on to flights that are then going to end up getting cancelled, because it's

just more confusion and frustration. but it means when they get up and running to then get everybody who hasn't found alternate means where they need to go. we'll see that through the weekend and potentially through next week. >> i think it would be easy to look at this story and say this happened one time. no this is a systems problem, a structural problem. i wonder if you see a potential long-term fixer. are we talking about regulation, what would it really take to get at the heart of what consumers are up against? >> yeah, the d.o.t. who has been vocal on this, on passenger rights, enforcing the airline, but those rights, to do more you have to have legislation. to see whether or not it's going to be seen, it remains to be seen. there's big regulations in europe, but not here. we're going to see what happens.

at the very least, we're going to see that southwest is going to make changes to their technology to everything backing the system. but in terms of passenger rights, it's a big question. >> big question, indeed, david slotkin, senior aviation reporter for pointsguy.com. we have a lot to talk about including the most important elements of the january 6th attack on the capitol, the mere mention in the investigation in the blockbuster report. we've got more on what is missing and why. but first, as the republican party wrestles with the midterm failure, they face a big choice, who is going to lead them into 2024? more on that, next. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy!

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♪♪ tonight, a district attorney in new york state has just announced an investigation into republican congressman-elect george santos. santos was discovered to have repeatedly fabricated parts of his personal biography while running for office. lying about everything from where he graduated from college to whether or not he is a member of the jewish faith. george santos' election to an election seat previously controlled by democrats had been one of the few election victories that republicans reported to the cycle. in an election year that should have favored republicans,

trump-backed election-denying candidates cost the gop control of the senate to several state houses. the party is looking to cast the blame on the losses on a key ally, political committee chair ronna mcdaniel. mcdaniel can be considered a trump proxy by republicans and what many consider to be the pre-eminent problem of the former president's influence on the gop. for republicans looking to move their party past trump, there's one problem. all of the candidates who stepped up to try to replace mcdaniel, they're even trumpier than she is. there be the list includes charlie clark, from the turning point trump usa and tucker carlson and, of course, my pillow guy, spends all of his time making vile blames how

china stole the election from trump. and kevin mccarthy is facing revolt from the far-right members of his caucus who thinks that his party's only mistake is not doing more to back trump. and "the washington post" reports that several key republicans are gearing up to challenge donald trump for the 2024 presidential nomination. among them, florida governor ron desantis who already leads trump in early head-to-head polls is reportedly preparing to enact a far-right agenda that includes new gun safety laws and attacks on so-called woke corporations. in other words, the republican party appears poised to further embrace trumpism in a way it never has before. even with the spotlight on trump himself against the failure. joining us republican congressman david jolly. he is no longer affiliated with the republican party. he's also an msnbc contributor. it's good to see, you know,

george santos under investigation, i wonder what you make of the whole story. but specifically now, as we have this development, what that means for republican house and congress? >> yeah, look, george santos likely to survive for about two years and be voted out by the voters of new york's third congressional district. he now faces a federal investigation. the only way that would bring him down is if it's related to financial crimes where did his income come from, or tax fraud or so forth. beyond that expect kevin mccarthy to lead the effort to have santos seated next tuesday. he wanted santos' vote for speaker of the house. and house republicans have very little options unless there's an indictment, they likely will allow him all of the privileges as a member of the house, unless there's some additional scandal that causes them to remove him from committees. but congressman santos might very well be around for two years. >> before we get around what it means for kevin mccarthy's bid for the speakership and he needs to keep this guy in place

because he's counting vote ossen that marge. you have the new york post saying they knew about santos' lies but were keeping it quiet. i know that's not surprising to you, but i do wonder what it tells you, and if you think that not reporting it is a problem for him. >> oh, sure, look. house seats, alicia, are essentially commodities that are traded between the parties and big businesses and deep pocket donors. the candidate winning the district for the red or blue, so republicans are happy to have george santos in a caucus, frankly, where lying is kind of commonplace. i congress now, you get to lie as much as you want. it's kind of accepted socially, but the difference is on dating apps and with congress, they

went along with the lies not only makes him culpable. >> i tip my hat to you, sir, for that tech savvy comparison there. i'm struck by that -- >> i don't know which way you swipe, alicia, to get rid of one of them. but i know you swipe one way. >> one way or the other. it seems that republicans haven't said how they feel about santos, with mpg defending santos and attacking tucker carlson's asking him about his life. >> look, taylor greene is an interesting one, the truth is in modern politics, you don't need your party infrastructure if you can create a national constituency. marjorie taylor greene raises more money outside of the kevin mccarthy machine than she did within it, matt gaetz, lauren boebert and others have created a national following. the question is, can george

santos who is now widely considered a fraud and mocked for his lie, can he create this victimhood constituencies that other republicans have? that's a tough sale. but he's blaming democrats saying they lie more than i do. >> i want to ask you about a different component of this disarray which is what you make of the fight happening inside the rnc? >> yeah, look, a lot of crazies are fighting to try to leave the flock, if you will. mcdaniel likely can't hold on, you saw the state committee unanimously vote of no confidence in the sitting chairwoman, mcdaniel, and there are crazies willing to take over for her. i suspect her support will erode and maybe she'll be replaced. there's very little the rnc does in terms of actual

electioneering, other than help facilitate a national primary. that's where the mccarthy/trump relationship -- mcdaniel-trump relationship with critical. >> let's take nikki haley, mike pence, kristi noem, they look look like they might be running against trump. i want to know what you make the names? >> it's desantis and everybody else. right now, donald trump is running a terrible campaign right now so you have to give the nod to ron desantis. can donald trump up this game? maybe in survival and political race he will do that. this feels more like 2000 nomination process where george w. bush was coronated, start to front, he was the front-runner, and there was nobody else. but desantis, as you and i

discussed on election nature, the nation did not choose the politics that was offered. desantis will make the case that he's the better choice. that's why he's so strong in florida. and republicans have said we don't want that. they said that in '18 and 2024. >> i guess the question is if the rest of the field sees him as the front-runner, and they see him as the front-runner because he's trying to be even trumpier than trump, do they attack in the opposite direction? or do they just try to out-trump him? >> well, here's the inside ball game, you rattle ron desantis. he is somebody who has an incredibly fragile ego. easily rattled. easily defensive. loses his temper, mocks people as we saw him do with that college student who was wearing a mask. so, you're not going to outright ron desantis if you will, he's using migrants for theater,

denies history, science. it has angered the lgbtq community. and angered people of faith and those, frankly, willing to express their speech and check all of the boxes for a republican candidate, he satisfies those. what he can't do is survive the heat. so what a smart pence or pompeo might do is rattle the guy. >> david jolly, appreciate when you give us the inside game. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> there is more to come tonight, including a major aspect of the january 6th riot. which somehow did not make it into the january 6th committee report. it's missing from the narrative for some reason. why, that's just ahead. st ahead

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and it's yours free just for calling. so call now for free information. i think had they're not been some of these kind of errant prophesies, you know, this idea that god has ordained it to be trump, i'm not sure january 6 would have happened like it did. >> errant prophesies, that was outgoing republican congressman adam kinzinger member of the january 6th committee speaking to the incredible impact that christian nationalism had on january 6. the christian nationalism, the belief that united states should be run by christians and christian theology has become a dangerous and growing political

identity among conservatives. you recall january 6 rioters prayed out of the capitol carrying crosses, saying jesus is my savior, trump is my president. and even carried them into the capitol during the insurrection. in the report, christian nationalists is cited once in the passing of white supremacist fuentes. the report did not go into religion and the role of religion in the attack. that doesn't mean that extremists use didn't play a role. religious freedom expert amanda tyler testified to the role of christian nationalism on january 6. >> christian nationalism helped fuel the attack on the u.s. capitol january 6th uniting disparate actors and infusing their political cause with religious fervor. christian nationalism often overlaps with and provides cover

for white supremacy and racial segregation. >> that part right there, political dentpy, christian white nationalism associated with january 6. it's a growing movement among conservatives. take likely florida gunfire ron desantis we were just talking about in his message to college students earlier this year. >> to put on the full armor of god. stand firm against the left steams. you will face flaming arrows, but if you have to shield the faith, you will overcome them. but i can tell you this, i have only begun to fight. >> joining us now, amanda tyler, she's the executive director for the baptist joint committee for religious liberty. miss tyler, thank you for being here. i'm struck you testified to congress that christian nationalism helped fuel the january 6 attack. tell me more about why you

believe this. >> well, thanks for covering this really important topic, alicia. i think understanding christian nationalism alone does not explain the january 6th attack. but we will not understand what happened at the capitol on january 6th if we don't confront christian nationalism. the symbols of christian nationalism were on full display, not only on january 6th itself. but as numerous rallies, leading up to the attack. and in a report that d.j. seeback in the committee produced from the joint religious foundation we put out a comprehensive accounting of all of the ways that christian nationalism worked to turn what was a political cause, into one that was infused with religious fervor. and work to unite this disparate group of attackers in a common cause to attack our democracy through violent means. >> talk to me more about that

point, the point you made in some of your testimony. that this is not just christian nationalism, this is white christian nationalism. and the tie between white supremacy. >> christian national lichl is an ideology and framework that is pervasive and persistent and it is not new. it dates back to the country's founding. and relies on the formation of a country a, quote-unquote christian foundation. one founded by christians for christians. and what what has a special place particularly for those who have power at the country's founding, native-born white christians. this ideology attacks our foundational values of religious freedom of all. it undercuts democracy itself, and for christians like me, it's also a gross distortion of the

christianity itself. >> the january 6 committee liz cheney spokesperson told "the washington post" in reference to this final report that cheney would not, quote, sign on to any narrative that suggests republicans are inherently race ist or that anybody that supports god is a white supremacis i wonder what you see from that reading and that the january 6th report failed to mention national christian. >> i think they fear that are confronts christian nationalism might be misconstrued as an attack on christianity or christians. and nothing could be further from the truth. and that's the work that we are trying to draw attention to, the a campaign called christians against christian nationalism. we are trying to draw attention to what christian nationalism

is. and to provide resources, particularly to christians, who i think bear a special responsibility in distinguishing christian nationalism from christianity itself. christian nationalism turns christianity to a false idol of power. it turns john's gospel that the gospel left the world on its head, saying that god has a special plan for the united states, or that god loves the united states more than any other country. or that god has preordained election results. so this political ideology is being -- it's fuelling election denial in many places. it's also fuelling continuing attacks on our democracy. and so, i think it is somewhat predictable and understandable that members of congress are reticent to tread into any kind of -- any kind of discourse that would be construed as an attack on religion.

so, i think it's up to the american people, and, again, a special responsibility on christians, to explain why that's not the case. because if we don't confront christian nationalism, then we are leaving ourselves open to future attacks like what we saw on january 6. >> amanda tyler, executive director of the baptist joint committee for religious liberty. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> more to come. stay with us. by temporarily delaying ovulation—and you can resume your regular birth control right away. i've got this. ♪♪

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