adoption really outpace those estimates. >> yeah and the hope here is to kind of a virtuous cycle, right? that the more adoption, the more money flows into it both from the investment and consumer and, the better the prices upscale again, the cheaper it gets and on, and on. we've seen that already happen insular and so, the hope is that we see that when it all kinds of places. the story solar story so far on that is really encouraging. >> yeah and it's the same thing with electric vehicles. it's kind of surprising because even senator graham has said for, example, that he wants his backyard to be really a leader in batteries. so, really starting to see a big change happen. >> dr. liu stokes, thank you so much for your time. that's all in on this thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts now. nicole wallace in for alex, good evening, nicole. >> so nice to see you, when we're not covering a nail-biter together. >> it's very nice to see you, i

hope you had a great holiday. and look for a great new year. >> you too, my. friend thanks to all of you for joining us at home this hour. i'm nicolle wallace in for alex wagner -- two days after election day in 2020, before the result of the presidential election, president donald trump's chief of staff received a step message laying out a very detailed scheme. for keeping donald trump in power. attacks was from donald trump son, don jr.. it described in detail the plot to use republican legislature to keep trump in office. regardless of the actual -- and if that failed, republicans in congress could keep trump in power. the description pretty much matches up exactly, with a scheme that trump's allies did try to carry out. trying to replace biden electors with fake trump electors, in states that joe biden won. today, the committee investigating the deadly january 6th attack release the transcript of its interview, with donald trump junior. and donald trump general told

the committee, he doesn't remember where the idea came from. quote, question, is that something that you wrote or did you cut and paste that from somebody else? >> don junior, i imagine i cut and pasted it from somewhere. >> question, who wrote this? don junior, i don't know. question, do you at least have a sense of what could be within a universe of people? >> don junior, i don't know. there was a lot, a lot that the former presidents on claimed he did not know. same for trump advisor stephen miller, the transcript of his interview with the january six committee was also released today. he refused to discuss any of his conversations with donald trump. he did say, to this very day, he believes that donald trump won the 2020 election. also released today, the transcript of the committees interview with doug mastriano. he's the failed republican candidate for governor in pennsylvania that transcript is short, because doug mastriano never actually spoke. the lawyer berated the committee has illegitimate, and then he ended mastriano left.

there's also this, from the line of trump's former chief of staff. describing what she heard from people in the white house about donald trump on january six. quote, that he was sitting in the dining room, and he was watching it all unfold. and then a couple of his comments, some of his comments where that these people looked very tragic, but also look at what fighters they were. i don't know if he was expecting them to be wearing full suits, of roman armor, and that would've made them not trashy. but he did feel, that they looked trashy, but he loved how they were fighting for him. this batch of almost 20 transcripts as the latest release from the january six committee, as it winds down its work and another sign of the committee's work is coming to a close. today the committee formally withdrew its subpoena. to former president trump acknowledging that it would be -- once the committee ceases to exist next month. we really are in the final days of the january 6th investigation. the new republican-led congress will be sworn in next mauve -- whatever material the committee still wants to get out to the

public record, they have a very limited and shrinking window out which to do it. politicos tile cheney points out today, 119 transcripts have now been released. totaling 1286 pages. he adds this quote, only 900 to 1000 more transcripts to go. joining us now is kind of janey, legal affairs reporter for politico. luke -- congressional reporter for new york times. and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, and legal analyst who also -- loop and kyle, you have stories out tonight and this latest transcript. we've pulled out some things that are just shocking. although will need a new word for shocking. luke, take me through what you pulled out as highlights? >> sure, there is lots of

things i think it could start with -- if we wanted. to the comments you just highlighted were quite interesting about donald trump 's demeanor of course. but i also thought it was interesting how she said that melania trump, had grown very distrustful of mark meadows. and of the lawyers that were surrounding donald trump. rudy giuliani, sydney powell, jenna alice. she deems the mom. the first lady was expressing to her, she didn't trust the people, didn't want them around the president, clearly mr. trump had other ideas. and he kept these people around, in fact they encouraged integrate deal as he was fighting at the election results. a number of the transcripts that stick out -- the interviews stephen miller he sort of spar as with the committee some 200 pages he's criticizing every question that's asked for. i'm he's fighting with investigators and you can see just how much trouble the investigators have trying to list information from some of these individuals. there are a lot of new details, and more color and more revelations in these transcripts. >> kyle, one of those new

pieces and it may be more than cholera by the time fulton county investigation winds down. but lindsey graham was trolling on basically looking for material about dead voters in georgia. his -- champion. >> you know, this has come up sporadically throughout the investigation. they really hammer it home in the transcripts. is how ubiquitous lindsey graham. was in the background of a lot of the conversations. he seems to have been someone saying, almost begging, give me any concrete evidence that there was real, legitimate, hard fraud that occurred. that determined of fraud. and all run with. a but they never produced it for him. he's someone who at the end of the day said, i support these challenges. it never turned over any evidence. he's there in the background saying, where is it, can you show it to me. and the fact is, they never did manage to produce that anything that showed anything close to the level of fraud the trump had been climbing. >> joy, slimming read that part of the transcript that came out tonight. this is from christina bobb. who's now become infamous for her role in the mar-a-lago investigation.

question, do you remember senator lindsey graham reaching out to the legal team for information about dead voters in georgia? christina bobb, yeah, i did we were in meadows office, and graham was like, oh, i love to support the cause. i think it would be great to, you know, really show all the fraud. send me a memo and show me what information you have got. i'll champion it. senator graham was saying, get your information. just give me five dead voters. give me, you know, an example of illegals. just give me a very small snapshot that i can take and champion. i thought of sheamus and ruby freeman when i saw. this all the extraordinary efforts that ran deep, ran to the highest levels of the republican party. to manufacture fog that was never their, never their choice. >> yeah, this doesn't happen in a vacuum, nicole, for anyone that's worked particularly in the deep south doing election law for a period of decades. these are the same sorts of allegations that are made in every election, that people are voting, people who are entitled to voter voting. that's why democrats are winning. you hear those sort of claims of fraud persistently.

and very often republican legislatures, republican legislative majorities would use these very much and founded claims of fraud to justify very restrictive measures that suppress voting. what happens here with lindsey graham, with donald trump, is a mute of allude -- in a much broader sense to pepper jack the big lie. but lindsey graham is in many ways being very true to his roots here. and using the sort of tired, bogeyman of voter fraud. which people here know, doesn't taint are elections in the south, to try to drill something up in georgia. and of course, the impact in many ways on the people who are working in the elections. and there's a moment in donald trump jr.'s transcript, where he's asked, do you realize that these sorts of claims that you're making, these false claims that they're inflicting a lot of pain on election workers. and he gives the response, of course what are you talking, about i'm not familiar with. that it comes full circle there. >> one of the other jaw-dropping revelations in these transcripts. is the plan to fire gina has double. i want to read this to all of you, and then will dive into it. alyssa farah told the committee, kash patel's the cia director for 14 minutes. but as an echo to the cool guy ideology, mister clerk, attorney general for a little longer than that. this is the transcript from marissa fara. i will share one thing that i

cannot confirm myself. but it's worth looking into. i've been told that they tried to fire gina haspel, cia director, and install kash patel. gina, a very savvy operator and an incredible public serve, it already had what i had a suicide pact in place. we're basically in the entire intelligence community would walk with her that option. officially, like, essentially, decapitating the entire intelligence community. so, they were able to stop that. but allegedly, for about 14 minutes, cash was actually the cia director. i don't need to tell this to congressman schiff. that man has no business being anywhere near intelligence or anything else.

so, all that is to say, it was a scary period, and i'm glad i wasn't there for a lot of that. but i think you guys have a lot of threads you should pull. >> so, luke, correct me if i'm wrong but i believe cash patel is now immunized with some limited immunity. a witness, as a witness in the investigation into this handling of classified documents a mar-a-lago. he was, for 14 minutes the country cia director. >> right, you're correct about his role, also in the mar-a-lago case. there is a lot of echoes here of what happened at the justice department. where there was another plan in place, to install jeffrey clark, with justice department another trump loyalist. again, there was a threat of a mass resignation within the justice department. and terrible headlines, embarrassment for the trump

administration. and donald trump at the end, did not go along with this, and apparently didn't go along with his plan with kash patel either. i think if you combine this with the transcripts of johnny mcentee, earlier in the week, it shows how there was a loyalty test about who would go along with trump to the farthest planes esther choo could stay in office. because there were several people that represent mr. mcentee, they've been dismissed when they were seen as disloyal. and in fact it was almost like a loyalty tests for people, each individual. how they make it worked for mr. trump. >> kyle, when is it that you want to do if you want jeffrey clark atop doj, and kash patel a cia. what is it that he wasn't able to do, that he would've realize two of them, do we know the answer to this question? >> i think you're talking about two different strands of conspiracy theory, the conspiracy, the multi step plan to subvert the election. one of those involves foreign intelligence. and questions, that really the most extreme version, and french conspiracy theories about foreign adversaries changing votes, allies changing votes. there was scott perry, congressman texting mark meadows about these ideas that the italians, the brits were

involved. trying -- with gina haspel as their ally. these are totally crazy theory is that were being thrown around. you see how this played out, that trump was exposed to a lot of, that wasn't may have taken action to try to pursue some of those questions. and that may be why he looked at some changes in the intelligence world, he looked at other changes that doj, and we saw really was this resistance by the people running those agencies that prevented it from happening. >> choice, we also learned that chris crabs was indeed fired. he did his job to well. he declared publicly that the election was the most secure in americas history. >>, so going back to johnny mcentee's transcript. there's an entire theme of loyalty tests. of chris krebs getting fired because he stood up for

elections. of people that d. o. d. who had to go because they didn't believe that trump was entitled to invoke the insurrection act. and really what we see at this point, it feels so much last -- like telling the story of a presidential administration. then it feels like when i used to prosecute organized crime cases, dixie mafia cases, where so much effort was expended on trying to keep the truth from coming to lie. so much energy was expended on getting people to obscure the truth. when they testified so that no one could be held accountable. and now we're beginning to see some real holes in that armor. and some of the truth shining through. it echoes back to jim comey. and his earlier comments where he had dinner with trump and trump asked him for his loyalty not loyalty to the constitution. but personal loyalty. and here at the very end, we see people like gina haspel at

risk of losing her job. because she was loyal to the country, constitution, not the president. for anyone that's not getting this point, it's not very subtle at this point in time. trump was about trump. trump was never about america and democracy. i heard adam schiff tonight say, he felt like the committee had reached everyone in the american public who was reachable. everyone who could listen to the truth. and hopefully, that message continues a little bit further as this evidence continues to come to light. >> joy, is on the follow-up with you, know the active firing jim coney was ultimately investigated by the mueller probe. as one of the acts of obstruction of justice. i wonder one of the crimes from which trump was referred criminally by the committee. it was obstruction as an official proceeding. are these acts also part of what will be scrutinized by doj as that obstruction? >>, so i suspect that doj for whatever reason, has moved past

the recommendations in the mueller report. many of them will be out of stretch, by now there's a five -year statute of limitations on prosecuting federal crimes. and perhaps, hindsight will be viewed as a mistake, we know that merrick garland is very much an institutionalist. he wanted to strengthen the justice department, he didn't want to tear the country apart with cries the doj was political. and yet, at the end of the day, when we evaluate what a former president dead. it cries out for legal accountability. and at every step along the way, we see how he skirt, sometimes very narrowly, legal accountability for his misconduct. and that's really in many ways what led us to january six, it's past time for trump to tase justice. >> it's interesting, every time he gets away with something if you will. he escalates the day after mueller testifies, there is the perfect -- he dodges his first impeachment and he starts talking about a rigged election, that election ends any works on the january

62. it's just extraordinary, it's wonderful to talk to all three of. you kyle cheney, joyce vance, thank you so much for starting us off. tonight we have much more to get to tonight a veritable news tsunami. for instance the big reveals coming up -- donald trump never, ever one of the public to see. it's about to come out for all of us to see. but before we get to that. more reporters dug into the background of republican congressman elect george santos, apparent lies they turn up enough federal investigators

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february, santos claiming to be a descendant of world war ii ukrainian holocaust survivors. cnn today reports, santos appears to have made his -- historical jewish names. genealogy is can find no evidence of jewish or ukrainian heritage on sound assist family tree. santos has of course said, that he never claimed to be jewish. he said that because his mother was jewish, and his grandparents escaped, the nazis during world war ii. that makes him jew high from -ish. the high finished silent i suppose. but with this new reporting from cnn today, sanders appears to affect his mother's heritage. it says we can -- add that to the long and growing list of george santos is lies. the ceo of the anti-defamation league is calling santos's fabrication about his heritage, shameful. accusing him of using the

holocaust as a political prop. he says that congressman-elect santos quote, owes everyone including the jewish community, an apology. this new revelation today about congressman-elect santos, is just the latest and an ever-growing centrally mind bending list of things to lie about. cnn tonight also replays that santas appears to have lied about attending a prestigious new york prep school. he once claimed his parents sent -- of belgium, problem with that being that she was actually from brazil. he these falsehoods, lies at new flavor to the list of lies he's already admitted to. about his education, about his work history. and this pileup of lies is

beginning to catch the attention of law enforcement. the nassau county d. a., sanders's district, as open an investigation into the congressman elects fabrications and inconsistencies. which have now also caught the attention of federal investigators. and d. c. confirms this evening that federal prosecutors out of the eastern district of new york, have opened an investigation into congressman elect santos, there examining his finances, irregularities with financial disclosures, and loans he made to his campaign. this is potentially a huge problem. for the incoming congressmen. it calls for other republicans in congress who are about to welcome him into the ranks. joining us now, new york times reporter, michael goal, to broke distrust. already and political reporter olivia fevers, michael, tell me and we deal with the human aspect of it. what's your reporting reveal to be the human flaw in him fabricating absolutely

everything. we like to make a list of things that held up. there is a much shorter women things that turned out to be lies. >> you, know i haven't had the opportunity to speak with congressman elect. i wouldn't want to speak about what he's thinking. i have no idea. you tried many times to get an interview with him. our someone honest. game all we've gotten a statement that he first put. out and the various interviews he's done other publications. first things women able to verify about the congressman lacks background. we know that he works at a company called michael o'donnell -- he mentioned in his. bio he worked with link bridge investors, mentioned in the bio. we know that was at a company

called harper city, appeared in has bio. i want to be clear, there's things that he said that have checked out. but there are also equally things that have not. >> michael, do you think, every day since the 19th, when you first broke the story there is ben another shooter, drop eller to fall from the resume he, was on fox news with -- guest hosting for tucker carlson, he seemed to blame his constituents for why he wouldn't try to explain, saying they wouldn't understand. is there any change in a containment strategy that you've detected? >> not so far as i can tell. he spent the first week after the story being fairly silent. the initial statement at's lawyer put out accuses the series of attacks that were defamatory. a week later, he gave a series of in areas where he acknowledged that some of the things that we had reported were in fact true. that interview that he did, tuesday night with box was certainly part of that strategy.

he hasn't done up kind of precedents, he spoke before, about his business and he spoke to the daily beast a little bit about his finances, his campaign finances. he's doing interviews, getting out there, he's been committed to some of the things he said to other -- he hasn't addressed the discrepancies between his statement, to the new york post and, he denied essentially having a criminal case -- when our original story, and brazilian media's been following the story and has cooperated on reporting as

well. >> olivia, you're importing that one of his crisis management strategies is to say that he won'eelection. to muddle through the two years. it seems like a political ticking time bomb. >> right, you know when i reported that i had republicans summary ching out to me saying, how do we believe that. the thing is this is losing support by some key figures in new york. and right, now he's sort of this pariah, coming in with his colleagues -- people, members saying that if you take out of congress, you get con man. and they really are upset that somebody who basically is coming up with a new class, they're taking the majority, the sickly it's the embodiment of the -- fight against. and now that has to headline to the new majority. they're upset about that. we're gonna see whether he gets on committees, kevin mccarthy has not spoken about it. but we're also gonna see who's gonna be speaker soon enough, that's sort of all playing in together, the scandal, the speaker, all at once. >> olivia, euro know they're upset because you've all been good, reporting on the sources. but they haven't been vocal about their upset. we subset, how upset our? >> members, your hearing a bit more from republican a lax. from new york who are saying, this guy should be investigated. he should be brought to an ethics committee, by law enforcement, -- incoming freshman. other new york republicans have been a little bit more hard. you haven't heard a ton from leadership. and it's because they want him to be seated, they want his

vote. but probably after the speakership vote, we're gonna be hearing a lot more questions, we'll be seeing leadership take action. because it's really hard for someone with this reputation to be given really a big trust in the calm -- he's -- not even sworn in. >> what do you ever put him in charge? of michael, what do you believe federal and local investigators to be probing? >> we don't know what about that. i would say both investigations are in the early stage. then our south county district attorney who i should point out is our public an elected official, much like mr. santos, has said if there's any crimes committed under restrictions, she like to look into them and prosecute them. -- similarly said that they're

looking into some things. and possibly see what there might be to prosecute if there is anything. federal prosecution is looking into his finances, it is unclear what exactly that might mean. if it's about his campaign finances. or is financial disclosures. or the socialist personal wealth. it seems like much of the focus that they're doing is on finance. we'll have to see what comes out of these investigations i think. prosecutors are in the early stages right now. >> michael golden olivia fevers, we point out we only know about the story, and we only know about these lies because of great journalism, like the stories you've reported. thank you to both of you. we'll continue to follow your reporting. still ahead for us tonight, russia's biggest assault on ukraine and weeks. dozens of rockets and drones testing ukraine's air defenses. on the country's power supply during brutal -- will bring you the latest. plus, is now just a matter of hours until some of donald trump's biggest, juiciest, close csc courts are revealed to the world. someone who seen much of what he doesn't want to see. will be our guest. stick with us. ♪ ♪ ♪

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2016 in the heat of the 2016 election, new york times investigative reporter, sue, crack got a surprise delivery that would change we need to be true about then presidential candidate trump's finances. in that day, her mailbox -- new york times headquarters, an anonymous tip stern mailed her three pages of trump's tax return. just three pages. and they were from 1995, but because trump was potentially about to be the first president richard nixon to not released his taxes to the public. those three pages where the most than anybody had ever seen. quieter teamwork tirelessly to

authenticate the documents using everything from hiring tax experts to flying across the country furred incognito meeting. with what month trump's former accountants. and a florida bagel shop. that investigative work is how we as a public learn that contrary to trump's public image hasn't assessment at, trumpet lost nearly a billion ballots that era low -- such a gigantic loss. the accounting software they used when the -- can put it all. his accountants had to type the last two digits. the typewriter after pointing it out. and april 2017 greg showed up in person at the house of then president trump's niece, mary trump. and mary trump book she recalls telling craig quote, it is so not cool that you're showing up my house. she shooed craig away. craig is an was persistent. she broke he wrote or bladder is. over the many months convinced or to help the new york times dig out more of trump's taxes. that's how we began as a public

to learn that despite all of this rhetoric. of being a self made billionaire, firing people on the show. trump had inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father. the new york times alleges he use complex games to avoid paying taxes on his inheritance while doing so. since then, they've gone on to win pulitzer prizes, for their investigative journalism. they've publish multiple additional trump tax exposés. all of, which with the result of interrupted investigative work. they are more knowledgeable about trump's taxes than anyone other than trump's own accountants. so, we like to think of tonight, smack dab in the middle of the christmas, hanukkah, new years -- eve of its own for their team. tomorrow morning the house committee is going to publish trump's tax returns from 2015 to 2020. two more years, -- tonight, on trump tax eve, there is no one we'd rather talk tour here from.

joining us now is suzanne craig, pulitzer prize reporter for the new york times. one of the league reporters on the new york times multi year investigation into donald trump 's finances. thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> i saw my life flashed before me before you did that. it's been a while. >> the thing we left out, the great scene where you're on with rachel at the beginning of one of the showtime talks. devoted specifically to the reporting. i need to ask you, what are you looking forward to tomorrow, what pieces are unanswered for

you? >> i'd like to say i'm looking forward to being over, but i don't think it's over. but you know, we're gonna get two more years of tax, as what i actually step back and think about, it's a monumental stay tomorrow for democracy. i think sunlight as one of the best disinfectants. it's just a great moment tomorrow that we're actually

gonna be seeing his tax returns in public. it's an important part for des moines -- understanding the president. and his finances. he refused to do this year after year. it only done at the beginning, i don't think we'd be here. it's important that the american people know, watson's tax return, how he makes his money -- it's a great day for everybody that this is happening weather at the democratic president -- and should be mandatory. >> in between rating the 16 committee transcripts, i went back and watch mitt romney's attack on donald trump in the primaries in 2016. romney one afternoon for busting the norm. i'm not really seeing his taxes. extraordinary effort, work, and time you need to think went through shielding the taxes from the public. and it sounds like they were

lies told about being under audit. can you quantify or describe the effort that went into keeping trump's taxes from the public on trump's part? >> sure, i'll answer that i want to talk about the audit. for, years as he was in the lead up to running he said that he would release his taxes. and that he would release them under certain circumstances. many just decided that he wasn't gonna release. and he fought to least of them all the way up to the supreme court. not once, twice. they are eventually handed over to cy vance in the manhattan district attorney to use in a recent case in-store case in new york. where they got attacks convection. and separately, he thought the result from the ways and means committee. -- eventually they were turned over. he doesn't want his taxes to be. seen i actually think i've seen

20 something we're -- kryptonite for him that he doesn't want known is -- tax return or tax return after tax return. but he's just a wildly bat is this man. and just under cuts what he -- asked for and got the 72. 9 million-dollar refund. all the income task he paid on that rush of money that he got from the apprentice from 2005 2008. he was able to do that because of the abandonment of his in dress. that allowed him to get what's known as -- a cookie refund. where i want one of those. but it's where the irs gives you the money back when you requested. and with a certain program that they have, it triggers an automatic audit. that audit from 2009 has been going on, could be going on today. could be going on when he entered the white house. he actually was under audit but it looks like -- mandatory audit. when they picked up the file with the irs agent. the mandatory presidential audit that's gone on every president. they saw that audit. and they said there was a lot of complexity of issues surrounding it. when they looked at it. it was complex and irs agents are often reluctant to start

when -- ones going on. it kind of overwhelm them. one of the issues why -- the question i have. and i hope we get some answers tomorrow. i'm not so optimistic. it's gonna depend on an audit note. but why hasn't that 100 million dollars if it goes against them with 72. 9 million when it started and nobody up to -- why hasn't that been resolved. where is that act. it's big. i hope we get some clarity on it tomorrow. that's one of the things i'm definitely gonna be looking for. ahmad optimistic on. it but we'll be looking for bread crumbs on that tomorrow for sure. >> well if anybody finds any bread crumbs we know that it will be you. suzanne craig thank you so much. thank you so much. >> quick break for us we'll be right back. don't go anywhere.

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from republicans taking over the house of representatives. a standoff between house republicans and president joe biden has already begun. political was first to report that the biden administration has -- for documents and testimony from two incoming republican committee chairman. and letters to incoming judiciary chair, jim jordan, and overnight chair, james comer, white house counsel office says quote, congress has not delegated such oversight authority to individual members of congress, who are not committee chairman. should the committee issued similar our other requests in the hundred 18 congress. will review and respond to them in good faith. translation, you are not chairman -- come back to us when you have a gavel in your hand. republicans already expressed outrage that the biden

administration will be. but here's the thing, the bynum is ration is operating under president sent by donald trump during his standoff with house democrats during the first two years of his administration. so, we wonder is this a preview of the kinds of standoffs we can expect to see over the next two years. chance of that question for us, joining us now is political correspondent, highly prized bell. she broke the story. heidi, take a few reporting? >> nicolle, all the way -- given that volume of letters, request that they've gotten from expected incoming gop chairman. they're setting the stage here to file off a subpoena canada. basically a spray of subpoenas early in the new year, which they told me would break with historical precedents, they're being a process for oversight whereby ect, germination you talk about what you're able to share. and negotiate relay, it hasn't taken place here it's just a

couple members who are coming and, they'll be the chairman there not yet in the white house and basically what they're trying to do is head up a theater, kicking up a lot of smoke before they've had a chance to respond. nicolle, i look at some of these letters. the thing they're concerned about, is broderick last. made as if these members are already chairmen, already have all the investigative powers of being chairman. for instance, requesting all documentation any communication, withdrawal from afghanistan different stance. and the case of jim jordan. who's going to most likely be the chairman of the judiciary committee. there's a history there of jim jordan himself, which i'm sure is gonna come up throughout the entire saka, nicolle, that will see overplay in the next two years. of ginger terms of not responding, fighting the

subpoena in the case of january six committee. >> and what is that, other than the withdrawal from afghanistan, what are they looking for that -- if there is one? >> nicolle, i have to be a delineation for the white house between what are legitimate oversight requests when it comes to, withdrawal from afghanistan. the situation at the border. i know the chairman for instance, of the oversight committee says they want to get back to the roots of investigating waste fraud and abuse when it comes to covid funding. there's members on the committee, like marjorie taylor greene, are saying no, we're gonna force mccarthy and comer to go back and re-litigate, and investigate the investigators

for instance with the january six committee. given the leadership that's going on right now, and the demands on mccarthy, there's no guarantee that calmer is gonna be able to stick to what a lot of staff told me. are these more traditional priorities versus going after the bidens for instance on hunter biden, and transaction reports in the treasury department. and trying to link those to joe biden. even though there is no link there as far as we can tell at this time. that'll be where the -- where this white house is meant to determine, these are the things we'll yay john. but we feel very little responsibility to engage on these other issues, especially given what went down over the past four years of the trump administration.