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good morning. i am lindsey reiser. we are here in new york. wishing you all a very happy
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and healthy new years eve. we are continuing to follow the breaking news out of the vatican. pope benedict the 16th has died at the age of 95. the vatican says the retired pope passed away early this morning. his funeral will be held on january 5th in st. peters square. presided over by pope francis. that is the man who became leader of the catholic church after benedict resigned from the role in 2013. msnbc looks back on his life and legacy. >> it was a resignation that shocked the catholic church. pope benedict, less than eight years after his election, he became the first pope and seven centuries to voluntarily retire. he said that he lacked the strength of mind and body to do the job. >> he felt like he was being prevented from being the pope in a way that he felt the pope
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should be present for the people of god. >> he was born joseph rat singer in wartime germany. in the deeply catholic weijia bavaria. he and his brother george people became priests. both eventually landed in rome. they both planned retirement and i moved back home when john paul the second guide. at the gathering of cardinals before the conclave to elect a successor, the cardinal sent a pointed message. >> you expect to portray for the holy spirit to enlighten us. no, i was there at the mass before they entered. he gave a scorching indictment of relativism and the world. it was a gauntlet. >> a gun on it he had zero now before. for almost a quarter century under pope john paul, he was the head of the office that oversees matters of church doctrine and morality. critics nicknamed him the rottweiler for his uncompromising views on priest celibacy, the ordination of
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women, and homosexuality. and for disciplining catholic clergy who straight. he defied predictions he was too divisive and to all 78. his election came quickly on day number two. he will lead a church that was founded changed by his charismatic predecessor. he traveled to 129 countries. he was a serious theologian. he was an administrator and -- many believe that the eu totalitarianism that he faced in hitler's germany's best rounded uncertainty. >> what is true is true. the truth is the truth. so much of his riding was really about that. we can change the messaging to a certain degree. but you cannot change the
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truth. >> that philosophy is credited with helping the church grow. but not in the u.s. and europe. many catholics want a more modern church. there were revelations of priests molesting children and the cover-ups. they tell a casey's blow to church attendance and finances. it brought this apology. >> i expect my deep sorrow to the innocent victims of these unspeakable crimes. >> those close to him say that it revealed his kind nature. they described him as a simple man. before becoming pope, he walked to work at the vatican. there's a lecture of the most public religious leader as the world challenged his natural shyness. he was an intellectual and accomplished pianist with love for mozart. he lived not far from his birthplace. >> this was a gentle man. he was a deeply holy man and. there was a thought that he had to be a disciplinarian in the
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church. that a time caused confusion. he created a character caricature of him. i think that it actually wounded him. >> there was a progressive side of him as well. the first pope joined facebook instead a youtube channel. he was someone who fought against climate change and installed solar panels at the vatican. there was perhaps his most aggressive move it, a church with two living popes. in 2013, he became pope emeritus. he moved to restored convent in vatican city. not far from his successor, pope francis. he would say that he never expected to live so many years in retirement. but he did. as he promised, largely out of the public of. he studied and wrote about the focus of his life, the catholic church that he once led. >> he was one of the greatest teaching popes in 2000 years of christian history. the world will be reading his
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reflections on the bible. the meaning of christian life for hundreds of years. >> living the way that he once described himself, as a humble worker in the lord. >> our thanks to christiane for the report. >> -- let's bring in molly hunter. molly, what is the reaction you are hearing? >> lindsey, i want to draw your attention. they're people walking behind me right now. that's because there's a preplanned mass. >> they really end dissipating this. there was pope francis reaction. this is the first time we will hear from him since the news broke. secondly, tourists and catholics -- they feel special they were here. this is a history making day. i think that everyone feels very sad and meaningful that they are here and surrounded by other people who are practicing believers. we know this from the holy office this morning.
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his body, the former police body will lie and stayed inside of st. peters's basilica on monday morning. it will be open to the public. as you mentioned, his funeral be on thursday in st. peters square. presided over by pope lancet 9:30 in the morning. >> molly, you've given us a little bit of lay out here of what we can expect in terms the procession. we will see you in the next week or so. what is next for the vatican? >> right, this is all unprecedented. we have to understand and assume that benedict had a hand in planning not only his retirement, but he also chose his title and where he was gonna live. i he also would've had an input and how the funeral would've gone, and how the burial would've gone. i spoke with a correspondent, kris white. i wanted a little bit of context about what this moment means. take a listen. >> this will be unlike anything that the church has witnessed. this is a moment not like past funerals. he had been retired for almost
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ten years now. when john paul the second died in 2005, it was considered the most watched television event in history. i don't think we'll see anything like that. i think we will see something from various governments. this will be a tie for faithful catholics from around the world to come here and pray. i think that we will see a lot of catholic bishops and cardinals from around the world come here. i don't think we will see anything on the scale that we saw the last people funeral in 2005. >> lindsey, there are many in the catholic church or say that this is a moment that should actually start to spark the conversation and discussion about putting in a set of procedures and rules. we need to normalize the retirement of a pontiff so this is not unknown or ad hoc if this were to happen in the future. many say that benedict has a very serious legacy. part of that legacy will be defined by his retirement. and whether or not that open doors for a future popes to follow in his footsteps. >> we continue to watch people file there behind you. i know that you have had a chance to pull a couple to the
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side. -- >> when people might show up today given this news. >> i don't think that what people are showing up. >> we there are a lot of tourists coming in just for the. china think iodination layered meaning. i think the people feel very lucky and privileged to be here for this moment. they actually get the chance to glimpse pope francis. the only single living pope at this moment. that was different in the last time we saw him. i think there is a net layer of this. people are looking forward to the. >> think you so much. >> she was a trail blazer, pioneer. the first woman to take primetime network news programs. to begin the preeminent interviewer and television. legendary journalist barbara walters died at the age of 93. surrounded by friends and level ones. she became a cultural touchstone with her trademark
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in-depth high-profile interviews. opening doors for women in the news injury. it was still just an old boys club. she left behind a legacy that started here at nbc. we have more on the legacy. >> where were wolters practically invented it. a big competitive news making interview. over half a on television. she got just about everyone. she was then willing to ask questions of others would not. >> the president of the united states, you are under it. >> where do you get the nerve? >> she sat down with every american president since nixon. >> are you sorry about the tapes? >> yes, i think so. >> she went head to head with tyrants. >> we read the eu are unstable. we read that you are mad. >> they were convicted killers. >> i was just a normal kid.
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>> a normal kid who killed her parents. >> few people in the business were willing to work harder. >> i did not started to do anything. i was doing it because i wanted to be the biggest or the best. i never felt that way. >> barbara walters group around show business. her father owned the famous and quarter. it is the new york nightclub where young barbara would get to know the stars of the day. >> i would take them back stage that the makeup. i would hear their problems. i would know their stories. i realize that celebrities where people. never been in all of them. >> she joined today stowe in 1961 as a writer. >> barbara is with me right now. >> her goal was to be taken seriously. that was not easy. she was given the fluff. she was at paris fashion week playboy bunny school. >> i am on the bunny, i am a reporter for the national
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broadcast. >> in november of 1963, she had her first national news story. >> they have been guarding the casket of president kennedy. >> she became a today show regular. although in the shadow of the other host, frankly. >> i could not ask the question. the only way that i could do an interview to her grave substance was if i thought about myself. >> she had big names in politics and show business. she decided that the interview was her way of doing it. >> she is difficult. >> typical that as a daisy. >> her career took off. >> she was here. >> i was there filming the today show. are the only woman from nbc that was sent there. i did interviews with presidential candidates. i went to the conventions. little by little, people can
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see that this is a woman that is doing the same thing that the manner doing. it is okay. when >> frankly died in 1974, herbal became the first female co host for nbc. >> abc news soon came calling. it hosted the primetime special. >> there was 1 million dollar contract with. >> i went because i had a seven -- i wanted a normal life. >> she got off to a rocky start nbc news. >> my partner was a well respected news man named harry weiner. he wanted to do the news every night. he just did not want a partner. no lesson woman. he made that clear from the very first night. >> i have time on your story and mine tonight. you have four minutes. >> i became the underdog.
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it was the worst time of my life. i was drowning. >> hello, this is barbara. >> she had the legendary party unsightly night live. >> barbara walters -- >> barber just kept working. she moderated a presidential debate and host primetime specials. she landed more big interviews. >> is it true that we are the first americans across the bay of pigs and 16 years? >> she made history. the first joint interview within egyptian president and an israeli prime minister. she was then lady co-anchors of 2020. she conducted hundreds of interviews over 25 years. few of them more memorable than this one. >> but kind of a trio? >> everybody would like to be a no tree. it is very strong and pretty.
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>> this is the only time that i asked that question. >> anytime interviewer once put me down, they asked me what kind of tree i am. >> looking at this -- she started the view. it is now a television staple that survives her. >> there were different generations of women and different backgrounds. >> she announced that she would be retiring. she did it with a nod to hurricane legacy. -- i >> did anything beyond what i could ever imagine. i hope that i inspired other women to make television. i want to say the 12 you have been watching me for many years. you have traveled the same role that i have traveled. we have been together for a long time. thank you. thank you. >> she left the view in 2014. she said she was retiring.
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i dozens of the top women in television news came -- i >> with barbara walters went on to change television we. nbc news. >> thank you. still to come, some key takeaways from the release of donald trump's tax returns. first, a suspect has been charged in last month's murders of four university of idaho students. we bring you the latest after the break. afte the break. some people think that's worth more than my skills. i've run this place for 20 years, but i still need to prove that i'm more than what you see on paper. you gotta be so good they can't ignore you. it's the way my mind works. i have a very mechanical brain. analytics and empathy. that's how i gain clients. i am more... i'm more than who i am on paper.
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we are following a major breakthrough in the quadruple murder out of idaho. the 20 year old brian christopher was arrested in pennsylvania. that is in connection with the brutal killings of for college students. he was charged with four counts of murder and one count of burglary. joining me now in idaho's dana griffin. dana, what is the latest about
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what we are learning about the suspect? >> good morning. and we are still waiting for pleased to extradite him back to idaho. it is a little bit tricky. he is gonna be in court on tuesday. if he fights extradition, they tell me that it could take several weeks. even months to get him back here to idaho. we know that he was arrested yesterday in pennsylvania. he was near moscow. investigators have been receiving tips. more than 300 interviews. they have not exactly explain how they link the murders to him. they said that law enforcement tell nbc news that he was a key link in this case. even though that they have a suspect in custody, investigators say that this case is far from over. we heard from the lead prosecutor. he talked about what we need help with in this case. take a listen. >> call the tip line. report everything that you know
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about him. help the investigators. help our of a journey court system. we will understand fully everything there is to know about it and the individual. what happened, why? >> we have also learned that he is listed as a ph.d. student in the criminology department at the criminal justice department. he is not in criminology at washington state university of coleman. state news also learned university help investigators who came to search is on campus office and apartment. we also spoke with a classmate. up until the semester, he was estelle attending classes. discussions about these murders were taking place in class. the classmate tells us that he did not participate. >> all right, thank you so much. after the break, a new york representative elect will be seated in the new congress. there is a growing number of
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investigations that is still facing a lawmaker was not even been sworn in yet. been sworn in yet.
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congress is already under fire. even before the new year ushers in a new congress. three days from now, the 118th congress will be sworn in. republicans in the majority of the house of representatives. that includes george santos. federal and local prosecutors have been out there looking into his finances and background. an investigation by the times found that much of what he has said about his background, including where he worked and went to school, it appears to be false. he has not responded to nbc's request for comment. he has admitted to, quote, embellishing his resume. the congressman is joining an already divided majority. kevin mccarthy faced a brutal battle when he seeks to become the next speaker of the house.
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join me right now is lucy caldwell from the campaign manager. that is for joe walsh's 2020 presidential run on. this is walsh junior. he is a legal analyst. first do you hear, this all came to light after the election. should the gop are media and a better job of vetting santos before he was elected? >> well, sure. i mean, there are so many threats that we can pull on this story. why was the research not better? one of the most interesting pieces of this story is how santos rise reflects the area that we are in. all politics is national. if you are willing to become a person in the book named the gospel of trump, santos was in florida talking about how he love the don't say gay bill. he himself is a game man. he was proclaiming his loyalty to the kingdom of trump. you can emerge from a dark
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corner of the internet and become an overnight sensation to the point that people who are part of the so-called establishment, people like his fellow congressmen from new york, they will embrace you. i think this is a reflection for the way in which party organizing on the republican side has really eroded. >> we are gonna talk more and a little bit about the gop. it is mostly remaining silent since all of this has surfaced. charles, i want to come to you, this is a political battle. santos is now facing the prosecutors. the investigation is at the very early stages. they have not zeroed in on anyone allegation of wrongdoing yet. given the reporting that we know, what do you think will be driving them up? well, lindsey, i think the biggest thing that george santos should be concerned about is anything related to campaign finance violation. i think he has a number of different ethics considerations that might be taken up by the house that this committee, but even beyond that, when we're talking about the doj of
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federal prosecution or federal investigation, you have to be looking at following the money. in this case, i suspect the doj is very much going to follow the money to ensure george santos has not violated any campaign finance laws with respect to his fundraising, and or his reporting. we know that george santos reported a significantly higher amounts of income this year than he did last year. basically, going from rags to riches. so, i would imagine that the oj is going to be very interested in following the people there to make sure everything checks out. this is a case where on a number of different fronts, george santos should be extremely concerned, because this fabrication and the amount of lies he has told thus far it's only gathering more attention to him from local and federal authorities. >> reportedly, in addition to the rags to riches story you just mentioned, a huge amount special travel, hotels, more than a typical congress person elect, at least. lucy, we have been talking about the gop here and their
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reaction. they have been mostly silent on santos. i is that? do you think that will change once he is officially sworn in, and a new speaker is settled? >> it is hard to say. of course,. yes this is, as you say, happening in that backdrop of what will happen, who will become speaker, will kevin mccarthy make it over the line next week? he has just less than a handful of votes he could lose in order to become speaker. santos, importantly, has said he will support kevin mccarthy. that is certainly at play. it is hard to know what the republican party will do next, because in a way, if they disavow santos and expel him, he must be seated next week. but they could choose to expel him. that would require a two thirds majority of congress. who knows if that will happen? if they expel him in a way, it is like they are making this a bigger issue than it might need to be. the reality of the news cycle, could this stay out? probably, he won't get any committee assignments, but if they expel, him is going to become a special election,
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right? that becomes a bellwether for is the republican party are in trouble ahead of 2024 or not? i think they are more likely to take the kind of approach they took with marjorie taylor greene, which, is no committee assignments. put that person on ice, and hope to weather the storm for the next two years. it's unfortunate, but i think that is probably the calculus that kevin mccarthy and others are making in this very, very tight congress. >> interesting. charles, i want you to listen to some of santa's offices interview with tulsi gabbard on fox earlier this week. >> we can debate my resume and how i worked with firms such as goldman sachs. >> is it debatable? or is it just falls? >> we can have this discussion that's going to go way above the american peoples head. >> you say this discussion will go way above the heads of the american people, basically insulting their intelligence. it is hard to imagine how they could possibly trust your explanations when you are not even willing to admit the depth of your deception to them. >> charles santos, seeming to
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think here that this is above peoples understanding. how do you think that will resonate with the public? >> probably not. well george santos is already shown himself to be someone who is quite disconnected from the public view in terms of his perception of reality. on which you consider, lindsey, that if george santos were applying for a job anywhere in the country, and he was hired for the job given a false resume, he would be fired immediately. the notion this is going above the americans peoples heads it is a false flag, if you will, of trying to divert attention away from the matter at hand. you lied. he has been completely dishonest in a way, like i, said in any other capacity would be completely unacceptable. it is only because of republicans slim majority in congress now they are allowing this to move forward, shamefully, but he should know that the more he opens his mouth, the more trouble he gets himself in. the bigger whole he digs himself. so, it is not likely going to play well with the public.
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again, as to me, wondering why you continue to do interviews and have conversations, he is just showing over and over again this guy is not someone who makes very good decisions. >> we will have to leave it there for right now, lucy caldwell, will stick around for the next hour. charles coleman, good to see you. thanks for being with us. just over 24 hours since the house ways and means committee released six years of donald trump's tax returns. he quickly fired back with this response. >> if you look at what they've done, it's so sad for our country. it's nothing but another deranged political witch, and which has been going on from the day i came down the escalator in trump tower. >> the public finally getting a firsthand look into trump's financial records after years of legal battles that made it all the way to the supreme court. one big takeaway so far from the thousands of pages of documents, trump paid relatively little in federal taxes in the years before and
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during his presidency. joining me right now is john allen, senior national politicians on board for nbc news, coauthor of lucky how joe biden barely won the presidency. john, one thing stands out. trump paid almost ten -- zero taxes in what is years of office, zero dollars in 2020, because he reported losses. or are his losses? >> there's two pieces of losses, right, with trump. one is the personal income tax. the other is the business taxes. the big hole in the understanding of this, once, he is, the irs joint tax committee in congress can't tell exactly what was going on, because there's so many half, so many references to prior your tax returns, it is very difficult to follow all of the money. in terms of the personal income, when you're talking about the amount paid or the personal income, it's not the full picture. that said, $750 in 2016, $750
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in 2017. nothing in 2020. i am sure almost everybody watching this right now paid more in income taxes than those years. one other thing, lindsey. just real quick, happy new year. i know 2022 was great for you with the addition of your family. i hope 2023 is better for all of you. >> john allen, thank you so. much of not letting you get off the hook, though. i have lots more questions about this. i appreciate it, my friend. we're talking with the difficulty to follow the money here, the irs was supposed to audit trump during the first two years of his presidency. they failed to. what went wrong? >> it's a little bit unclear in terms of exactly what went wrong. internally at the iris, there were a couple of things that we're working against doing a full audit of trump who, by the way, during the campaign in 2016, said he was in the midst of an audit. obviously, that wasn't going on,
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because there wasn't going on after he became president. what they said was they basically want the resources -- there weren't the resources at the irs to pull off the kind of examination they would need. there was a reference from one irs agent to the sensitivity of the case of a reason to not pursue it further, to not ask for those additional resources. ultimately, in 2019, there was an audit, but it wasn't under that mandatory law. we already have seen democrats put together legislation designed to ensure that the honoring a future presidents is, in fact, mandatory rather than simply mandatory in one way. >> i want to cook you about -- foreign bank accounts, trump had multiple, including one in china, while he was in office. how concerning is that? >> [laughter] i guess it depends on who you are. if you're donald trump, it's probably not terribly concerning. he has made a huge case that
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china is the greatest threat to the united states of america. he has hammered president biden for doing business with the chinese. here, you see donald trump is a beneficiary of his relationships in china. he had the bank account open for years in china, and so there's a hypocrisy here. i think a concern for supporters of him would be that people might use that primary, opponents might use that against him, or a general election opponent might use that against him. you talk tough on china, but at the end of the day, you are doing deals behind closed doors with them. >> we know you continue to pour through these documents. we'll see much more if you've this weekend that much more in the new year as well. dr. allen, good to see you. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. >> next, covid hospitalizations on the rise as a new variant takes hold. we are going to talk to an expert after the break. the break have a good day, behave yourself.
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covid variant is on the rise, it's called the omicron xbb variant, and it comes as flu and rsv spikes across the country, overwhelming hospitals. the cdc reports of more than 20 million illnesses and 13,000 deaths from this flu season alone. the health experts advise you to get your flu shots, vaccines, and mask up.
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only 15% have got the omicron booster vaccine, according to the cbc. joining me now is doctor patel, nbc medical contributor and former policy director in the obama white house. let's start with this new xbb covid variant. it has become the dominant form threading in the northeast, making up more than half of the covid cases in new england. health experts are saying it's more contagious. they say it can evade immunity from vaccines and infections. what do we know about this, doctor and, what are your concerns? >> when, see on top of being more infectious and potentially evading immunity, we are trying to see if our current booster held up. we know it holds up better than the original vaccine strain, which is good. on top of that, we also know this is something that if at a time where people are traveling not just around the world, but we've got incredible cases spiking up in the northeast area and we will only see those surges increase across the rest of the united states. that means more hospitalizations and unfortunately, more deaths.
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>> let's talk about china,. doctor the covid outbreak in beijing has cost the u.s. and other countries do not require testing from travelers from china. there's been a lot of criticism, though. is this an effective move here? also, given the lack of transparency, what concerns are you seeing about china? >> i think the criticism comes, and part of this criticism, i think testing someone 48 hours before they have to arrive on land, there is a lot of gaps that can be miss in that time period. we know that people can test earlier in that 48 hours and still be positive, especially once they arrive. on top of that, lindsey, i think the basics. masks, and there are things that are very positive that everyone can do so we're not just being reactive and waiting for infections, but we can try to prevent that in the first place. i realize everyone has mask fatigue, but is one of the very proven ways we can prevent. this on top of this, i think for china, what we are trying to do is contain the numbers of positive cases proliferate.
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lindsey, domestically, exponential increases are much more likely with what we just talked about, with xbb and variants from imported cases, where we likely would see linear growth. not as much growth. >> we want to talk to you about vaccine hesitancy. we are seeing a resurgence in measles, most recently, in columbus, ohio. according to the washington post, most of the 82 children infected so fall are old enough to get their shots, but their parents have chosen not to do so, resulting in the country's largest outbreak of the highly infectious pathogen this year. what risks are they taking here, doctor, not only for themselves for probably killed? >> number one, it's deadly risk to themselves. it's something that is entirely, utterly preventable. in terms of public health, flimsy, i had to break out textbooks, literally, a textbook, because many of us have never seen cases and don't recognize some of these rashes or clinical presentations. what you run the risk of his coming into a health care situation and not anything being able to get diagnosed and treated. why take those risks?
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it's disappointing, because we're seeing this hesitancy across the board, not just with children, but with adults, too. they don't think they need their vaccines, because quote unquote, they will just get over whatever illness there might be, and their natural immunity is good enough. we have science to prove that it's not correct. >> doctor, i have to be quick with you that right, but today is doctor fauci's last day as a federal employee. what is his legacy, and, also now that presumably, the search for his replacement is underway, what are your hopes for 2023? >> those are big shoes to fill. whoever feel some will humbly put their own legacy stamp on it, but there's not enough to be said. covid-19 is obvious, but whether it's hiv or the fight to recognize the importance of infectious diseases, antimicrobial resistance, literally books have been written, not just about him, but his scholarly contributions. and much more we can learn just from unpacking, and, hopefully we will have more time to teach and mentor. i know he enjoys. that >> doctor kavita patel, thank you. >> thank you.
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>>, in a little more than 13 hours, tens of thousands of people will ring in the new year at the famous crystal ball lights up times square just blocks from here. around the world, millions of people, when the clock strikes 12, or maybe drop those stubborn 20 pounds, use social media outlets, that's, mine or get more sleep. we may start strong, but according to time magazine, as many as 80% of people failed to keep their new year's resolutions by february. only 8% of them stick with them the entire year. joining me right now is a board certified psychiatrist, dr. dion metzger. dr., happy new year. factoring with us. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> so, the stats are a little depressing, right?
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only 8% of the people who fled to themselves to that resolution are going to stick with it. what is the science behind our motivation to commit to something when we know the likelihood of failure is kind of high? >> you know, i think we kind of set ourselves up to fail. we tend to overshoot with the resolutions. one thing is we tend to focus on these big, lofty goals that are very realistic. so, by scientists break them down to smaller goals. we are more likely to keep them. that >> forty four, example, less social media. instead of saying okay, i am going to get rid of instagram on my phone. what would be sort of a stepping stone to help me achieve michael? >> exactly. that is a one hour left a day on social media. we're doing it step-by-step instead of trying to come over. instead of, i am going to cut off social media, you break it down into steps. it makes a big difference. >> some of the most common resolutions, new, year knew me. i'm going to drop 50 pounds this year. i'm not going to spend any money on anything but bills. it's very well-intentioned, but
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are these kind of traps that people typically fall into? again, to your point, just too big? >> they are absolutely trumps. like i said, we are setting ourselves up with these huge goals, making it more realistic. what we do with a resolutions of pretend to focus on the end goal, and not really focus on the process. for example, i want to lose 20 pounds. instead of saying that, a resolution could be, i'm going to walk twice a week. that white, we are focusing more on the steps to get there rather than that huge goal without having any direction. >> what are some of your new year's resolutions or goals? >> i know, it's personal! >> now, it's not personal. it's just a cliché, right? use social media less, lose, wait kind of the same once every year. i wish i had something good. but with that, i'm going to talk about instead of saying oh, i'm going to lose this amount of weight, and going to be focusing on oh, how can i become more active? really incorporating it into my schedule. i think that's another big point. make it realistic, saying, okay, i want to lose weight.
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i am going to work out 2 to 3 days a week, where you are making a part of the process and making it realistic and putting it into your schedule. >> what are some tips on a healthier way that people can chase their goals this year? sometimes, the resolutions has sort of a negative spin on it, because you're saying inherently, i need to change something about myself. >> right. i always say, it's not new year, new me, it's not your, better me. that's when i focus on. the first, and focusing on the process. not just the results. thinking of ways to incorporate it into your schedule realistically and the positive changes he want to make, and don't forget about accountability. having a body. telling someone about your resolution. checking in weekly. it makes a big difference. we see that resolutions tend to get fulfilled more when there is accountability, and you have that group effort. and last but not least, not to let the obstacles the rail you. with anything, with any, change that is going to be bumps on the road. always remembering that this is part of the process. keep going. >> i have a timer on my social
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media apps. i feel like every other day -- >> that's a good idea. >> i hit ignore? maybe that is not such a good idea. you are inspiring me to keep the timer and even if three days of the week i adhere to it, it's all good. dr. dion -- >> i'm going to join you. i'm gonna join that, too. >> i love that. >> doctor, so good to see you. happy new year. >> happy new year. thanks, lindsey. >> in the next hour of msnbc reports, the january six committee releasing its last batch of interview transcripts. we'll tell you what lies ahead in the new year. plus, preparations being made at this hour for the new years eve party in times square tonight. tens of thousands are expected. we will take you there later. there later ♪ what will you do? ♪ what will you change? ♪ will you make something better? ♪ will you create something entirely new? ♪
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breaking news out of the vatican, we're up emeritus benedict has died at the age of 95. in a statement saying the pope has to wake early this morning. his funeral will be held on january 5th in st. peters square, presided over by pope francis, the man who became the leader of the catholic church, after benedict resigned from the role in 2013. joining us now is nbc's foreign correspondent, claudio la bungle at the vatican. claudio, what can we expect here in the next several days? >> hey, lindsey. we'll, if attic in just issued some new guidelines in the last 20 minutes. what's going to happen is until the january, that remains of emeritus benedict will remain behind me, where he will receive no visitors and no official prayers, but then, on the morning, in the morning on monday, the body will be moved inside st. peters basilica to give the npc the chance to gi

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