thrilling 51-45 upset over michigan. not to be outdone, georgia and ohio state came down to a last 2nd field goal as the clock struck the night. missed wide left, georgia clinch their 2nd straight trip to the national championship. the big game is next monday. others across the globe are celebrating the new year in a very different way by jumping into a cold body of water. it's known as a polar plunge. on your screen right now, people in the netherlands celebrating in that chilly way. to all of our viewers at home, we want to warmly miss you wish you a very happy and healthy new year. that wraps it up for us this hour. i'm lindsay reiser, i will be back here tomorrow at 2 pm eastern. symone starts right now. >> greetings, everyone, happy new year. you are watching symone. the new year, americas ushering and a new congress. lawmakers will be sworn in on tuesday. global house republicans do

with a new majority, and who will lead them and congressman kevin mccarthy can't secure enough votes to become speaker? adding to the chaos, there are growing calls for congressman elect george santos to step aside before he's even sworn in. the freshman from new york shows no signs of doing that. will there be consequences for the lies he calls resume embellishments? we are going to ask a fellow new yorker congressman pat ryan in just a moment. case closed, folks, tory lanez was found guilty of shooting megan thee stallion. and now audio has surfaced of a phone call between tory and megan's former best friend. we are getting into all of it in the regroup. first, 2023. i'm simone sanders, and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪

new year, new congress in just two days. 118 congress will officially begin. and the new republican house majority will bark upon a legislative agenda divorced from the reality of what americans across our country actually care about. in a recent dear colleague letter, republican congressman skied scalise who's expected to serve as majority leader and the 180 congress outright some of those that house republicans plan to bring to the floor in the first two weeks. take a look at what they are talking about. and includes legislation of that would rescind additional irs funding designed to offset staffing crisis in the agency, it would cement the hyde amendment, banning public funds for reproductive health care, and allow border control agents to turn away undocumented migrants when resources are strained. first to implement this agenda that no one voted for, they are going to need a speaker. congressman kevin mccarthy has already started moving his

things into the speaker's office even though he is still struggling to reach the 218 votes he needs to get the gavel. at least five of his republican critics are refusing to support him. nbc news is reporting that as we speak, mccarthy is holding a call with house republican conference members too shura votes ahead of a conference meeting tomorrow morning. the standoff could and with far-right members getting more power than ever, and could lead to a floor fight unlike any the nation has seen the century. happy 2023, all. joining me now to discuss the shifting political tides is democratic congressman pat ryan of new york. welcome to you, sir, happy new year, thank you for being on set. let's just jump into it. house democrats are going to have new leadership come literally in about two days time. what has the new leadership discussed about the priorities for the hundred 18 congress? >> happy new year.

thank you for having me. i am excited. the democratic party is in a ray at a time when, as you just said, the republican party in a pursuit of power and greed is in disarray. we are going to come in and do exactly what we have been working to do and delivering on the past two years. fundamental relief, delivering relief, and defending rights and freedoms that i think, high fear, are going to be under even greater threat with the republican house majority. >> this is the first time that democrats will be in the minority in the house representatives in about four years. other parties, the republican party, the colleagues that you'll be working with in congress, it is become a party steeped in, you know, just extremism. you saw the list of things that i detailed from steve scalise about what some of the legislative priorities are. not necessarily where americans are what, they voted for, in this midterm election. do you --

this is a slim majority. do you have any plans to cross party lines, to vote with republicans on any issues or pieces of legislation, if so, what could some of those things be? >> i try to stay an optimist. i believe in democracy. i believe in our country. our rest are life for our country. and so we have to continue to try to work to actually deliver and help people. we were able to in a bipartisan way put a cap on insulin costs and bring down prescription drug prices. >> it goes into effect as of yesterday. >> we have to be able to continue to do those things. if we are headed in a direction where we don't have a good faith partner, i certainly have and will continue to call them out. our democracy, i believe, is at a literal existential risk. are >> you optimistic about your ability to work with the republicans in this upcoming caucus? >> i'm going to sta optimistic. we have you can't come to congress and not be an optimist. that is what gets us in the

moments. we have a bunch of cynics and power hungry people. i am going to continue to be an optimist. being an optimist means i believe and our democracy. if there are grave threats to our democracy, for example, seeding, a member of congress who blatantly lied about their entire record -- >> george santos, your fellow new yorker. let's talk about george santos. just for folks out there, you have called for george santos to not be seated in this congress. you think he should resign given the lies an embellishments. i just want to remind people at home about george santos and what he has done. he is a republican, he is a republican who has elected in the past midterm election in a seat that democrats previously held. he embellishes his resume and actually apologized to the outlet city and state and wabc radio. he admitted to, quote, embellishing his resume. he misled voters on key points, previous employment at goldman sachs, that is the tip of the

iceberg. he had additional claims, including his religion ancestry and more. all of those were challenged and debunked. he famously asserted he was jewish, and then he came out said, actually, i'm jew dash-ish. i don't know that means at a time when antisemitic attacks are on the rise against our jewish brothers and sisters. what do you think is going to pan out here. george santos has said he has no intention of resigning. he plans to take the oath of office on january 3rd. >> i, mean in the history of our country, this is one of the most grave -- it's an insult to our democracy that in pursuit of 218 seats, kevin mccarthy is going to allow a blatant liar to be seated. and a whole bunch of other republicans are being absolutely silenced. , look as someone who served in cabinet when he said, months had a top circuit secret security clearance, i don't think a lot of people realize, george santos, if seated, yes,

i have called for him to not be seated. i think he should resign. if seated, he will have access to highly sensitive top secret national security information as a member of congress. >> frankly, he would not be able to get a security clearance under any other circumstance. i've had one, he would not pass. >> clearly, where do is allegiances lie? where do the hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions he has refused to account for come from? those are some of the most ripe for control by a foreign adversary issues that an individual would have. there is no way to have a clearance. this is something when you talk more about. it's certainly something i'm going to be focused on. you know, just a few weeks, ago we had a top secret ukraine briefing from senior military and diplomatic leadership. he should be in that room. >> he should not be in that room. it's something we will be watching. congressman pat ryan, good to see you, sir, happy new year, thank you for coming in today. we will be chatting. under 18 congress, just days away. thank you. all right, i want to bring in my political panel now. kadia goba is a politics

reporter. this kurt bardella is here. a democratic strategist. and an l.a. times contributor. and bryan robertson as a republican strategist and president of robins and republican. welcome to you all. happy new year. let's start with kevin mccarthy's efforts to become speaker. you all just heard my conversation with congressman ryan. kadia, you are on the hill regularly talking to folks. what are your sources telling you about the meeting kevin mccarthy is holding right now to secure the votes he needs? >> yeah, it's interesting. we know that we are waiting for this rules package to happen. for my understanding, he has started with confidence members a few minutes ago. we should expect with the moments after the meeting that they will publish a rules package. so, now we get to see exactly what all the details about the motion to vacate.

they are still up in the air. we are not sir if that is going to be included. we will see how much influence the five people or 5% plank of the party actually are going to have on kevin mccarthy in the upcoming speaker. >> do you know how long the meeting is expected to last? >> no, they haven't given us any details on that. >> all right, we will be waiting with bated breath. , brian do you actually think that kevin mccarthy is going to be elected speaker? >> well, i do, because republicans don't really have any other options. look, we have no president in our history. there being some coalition with a few democrats, maybe some moderate democrats to have some consensus. that's something we don't have to take. there is no second place for these. guys it has got to be kevin mccarthy. , look even your far-right members like marjorie taylor greene from my home state of georgia says, kevin mccarthy is

our hope in a republican speaker. she is right. that is the reason why i think he's going to be speaker. we don't have any other options. >> okay, we will be watching. again, while this panel is having it. you get some information that you get chair. let us know. we will come back to you. kurt, i want to bring you in here. aside from kevin mccarthy, we have mitch mcconnell in the senate. earlier today, we learned that president biden is going to travel to kentucky this week. he is going to appear with the republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. what does this visit signal to you about the presidents approach to this 118 congress? >> i think, republicans continue to be in complete and utter disarray, kevin mccarthy dealing -- with president biden is out there going directly to the people with one of the fiercest opponents. and showing they can get things done. we are as a democratic party,

we are the grown-ups and their room. for all of the punditry, for all of their rhetoric and flare, from the conspiracy theories from the republicans, democrats have managed to get something done in your day today. life that will make influence rather than all the -- and having mitch mcconnell standing right there for all republicans steadfast against the biden agenda, of very effective agenda, mitch mcconnell now -- >> i'm going to interrupt you for just a second. there is a slight delay. i'm going to interrupt you. i hear court saying that this is an opportunity for democrats to demonstrate that they are the adults in the room. they are focused on getting things done. brian, i'm wondering if you agree with that assertion, especially given the debacle that is george santos coming into the house of representatives. s coming >> i think mitch mcconnell making an appearance with president biden is actually --

in the room. it is extending a hand and being seen together is a good politics for him necessarily. i do think the nation needs to be seen a lot more of. that we do have some opportunities in the next couple of years. one of the things that majority leader steve scalise has put forward, how we deal with the challenge of china, this is something that cuts across partisan lines. we saw both parties come together last year with the chips act. these are national security issues. republicans and democrats are fighting common ground. look, on congressman-elect, santos if being a giant liar was a disqualifier for congress, who would we have to serve, i mean, this is a name to me. >> i do think there is something to say about completely lying about your entire resume. like, who is george -- >> it's not illegal. >> well, on this point, let me

bring kadia in on this point. bryan is saying, folks, out there, is true. it is not illegal. kadia, what is the conversation inside the republican congress right now? are there any conversations about ethics referrals, what about elections investigations, given that he may have lied on his forms, electronic disclosures, financial disclosures. >> we covered some of this last week. they were lucky to get an interview with him where he revealed where the source of some of his income was coming from. we already saw -- okay, apart from leadership, we see people in his -- just members who represent districts that right next to him coming out for ethics investigation. as well as a criminal one if needed, we saw loadout from who used to represent louise eldon's and then we also saw a

district or terry come out saying they are going to investigate. i think the big point is, it's not about them, lying it's about the campaign finance and what he did. fall where to the money come from? are there any problems related to that? >> and it's about the money. all right, thank you very much. if you have any other movements and you want to come back, let us know about this meeting. kurt and brian are sticking around, because there's more for us to discuss and just a little bit. i will see you too later. coming up, folks, i've got more of my exclusive interview with january 6th elect committee chairman bennie thompson, and we'll get into the committee's decision on criminal referrals. plus, we get an update on the witness interview transcripts the committee has been releasing. first, my colleague, jessica layton, is here with today's other new stories. happy new year, jessica. >> happy year to you, simone. what a busy start to 2023. stories we're watching at this hour, city officials say the three nypd officers hurt in last night's machete attack -- new york times square, are all

expected to recover. the suspect himself was shot in the shoulder and taken into police custody. some new information we're getting right now, law enforcement officials tell nbc news that back in mid december, a relative of the suspect told law enforcement in maine about pro jihadist views the suspect had allegedly shared. suspect was interviewed by law enforcement shortly after that according to those tombs forces. over to russia now, vladimir putin announced his continued commitment to the war against ukraine and his new year's address. that's as russia launched a new round of missile attacks in ukraine. meanwhile, ukrainian president zelenskyy vowed to keep fighting back, sharing a hope for a year of return to freedom for ukrainians. and pope francis today reflecting on the life of the late pope americus benedict the 16th, calling for people to give thanks to his life of service to the gospel and the church.

he will line rest at st. peter's basilica for three days starting tomorrow. the funeral is this thursday. and jessica layton, more simone after the break.

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so let's go. with the beginning of 2023, we the digital age is waiting. are seeing the end of the january six committee. but the day, a house select committee released a new website. it's an interactive version of all eight chapters of its final report, including video from the hearings. chapter headlines include, the

big lie, and i just want to find 11,780 votes. that website will live on long after the january 6th committee is gone. i sat down with congressman bennie thompson, chair of the january six house select committee, for an exclusive an extensive interview after the panel wrapped up its work. i asked him how his time in bolton, mississippi, a place that once excluded black people from the political process, prepared him to lead the january six committee. here is part of that conversation. >> you know, bolton, mississippi, was ground zero for political movements in mississippi. but for me, it was home. so i said, what can i do after having gone to college and met martin luther king junior, john lewis, everybody you can imagine? so i go back home, and --

you help your community. i didn't know that helping my community would upset the apple cart. i just wanted bolton to prosper. and so, i met that kind of resistance, and it's been that kind of resistance even when i got into congress. i had to sue the district to get one created where a person of color could win, and got here, and you know, it's been a challenge. but nonetheless, it's one that i'm prepared to do, and i think we have put forth the best possible effort the show that people of color are patriots. people of color love this great country of ours. and all we really need is a chance. >> that's to say, you believe in democracy? >> no question about it. >> it seems to me that there's just a lot of what ifs. because president trump's attempted coup, right, was not

successful, in large part because elected officials, many of them republicans, when we go along with this plan. but i keep thinking about what if mike pence would not of rebuffed then president trump's request. right? what if ralph raffensperger would've said, okay, i'm gonna find you these 11,000 votes in georgia. do you think about the what ifs? >> absolutely. and the thing that -- this community has brought to me it's, i'm firmly convinced that in america, there's still get people who believe in this country. sometimes, they're confused, but a majority of them believe in democracy. and so what we saw in brad raffensperger, what we saw on others that came forth, is that patriotism really was beyond party.

and so, for our committee to demonstrate that in america, there are still good people, who you don't philosophically in a lot of issues agree with, but in the question of whether or not they believe in democracy. i think they are modern-day heroes. at the -- >> i think it's fair to say that under your leadership, the january six committee has demonstrated that a serious inquiry and congress happens in the modern era. could you talk to us a little bit about how and maybe what were some of the points of disagreement or contention among folks in the committee? >> there was a lot of back and forth. and actually, until january 19th, we were still back and forth. because we wanted to get it right. and so, there were some

decisions we made not to go forth, because we didn't have the unity of effort that we wanted to show this country. america needed -- >> which one of those decisions was it? >> well -- >> because i think -- >> we'll, for instance, there were some lawyers who gave bad advice to people who gave their -- to our community. >> that's clearly an ethical violation on behalf of those lawyers. we can prove it. but we said, well, we'll let the buyer handle it on their own. there were lawyers also paid by individuals to represent clients who came arbery -- before our committee, who basically had a vested interest in those clients not telling

the truth. so, there were significant dollars raised by former president trump that never went toward the efforts for which people donated money. and so, we don't know if this was an effort to just make money, but we know that when people donate money to you, ostensibly, to stop the steal, and none of that money can be traced to anything, quote, to stop the steal, and you still have the money right now, you know, two years after, there are some problems with that. >> but there are not the unanimous decisions reached on what to do. >> so, rather than go down that, we looked at the broader issue. to be honest with you, we

wanted to look at represent -- recommendations, but it was just so agree just that the committee felt that in terms of what the former president had orchestrated, that we just couldn't in good johnson's not make the referral. >> either referrals not related to the justice department, but you made referrals with four members of congress to the ethics committee. separately, i have not seen -- and maybe you couldn't illuminate some of this virus -- recommendations that the members of congress that we know aided and abetted in some way, shape, or form, the insurrection or the plot to disrupt the people transition of power. on the -- ethics committee referrals, have you reached out to the ethics committee about what the process is gonna be? what happens come january? republicans are in charge, and then for these other members of congress, should they to not be

held accountable? after the civil war, members of the united states senate who sided with confederacy were expelled by their colleagues. >> well, yeah. and obviously, that was called the ku klux klan in 1871, when individuals came forward and passed that law so that you couldn't be intimidated if you came and participated with this great government of ice. so, i think people should not be intimidated. i think we absolutely have a right, as americans, to participate and not be intimidated. and so, to be honest with you, symone, what occurred on january 6th, and what our committee ultimately uncovered, well, there were individuals who really wanted to alter the outcome of the will of the

people. and they will prepare -- the chief of staff, the president, other people, about doing these kinds of things, and never in my wildest dreams what i have imagined that a member of congress representing over 700,000 people would participate in the active denial of the right of the lawful -- the lawful right voters in this country. now, that being said, the law is kind of sour on what you can do with members who participated in that. i subpoenaed those for members, they refused to acknowledge the subpoena, and so, the committee said, look, law is kind of sour, we'll get to the ethics committee. because there's an oath they take. so we hope the ethics committee

will look at it seriously. as you know, that's an equal number of republicans and democrats on it, so we'll just have to see what happens. >> the two year anniversary of january 6th is this upcoming friday. january 6th, 2023. many thanks to chairman bennie thompson for that interview. after the break, folks, we're getting into what to look out for this week. republicans are taking back control in the house and they're gonna unleash their top priorities. president biden and vice president harris are traveling. don't go away. to tell you about it. wait what? get it before it's gone on the subway app! i tried everything to remove fabric odors, but my clothes still smelled. until i finally found new downy rinse and refresh! it doesn't just cover odors, it helps remove them up to 3 times better than detergent alone! find new downy rinse & refresh in the fabric softener aisle. >> i said it before, and you

can bet i'm gonna keep saying. the january six committee's work maybe i'm done, but the fight to protect our democracy is ongoing. i think now, it's more urgent than ever. craig and bryan are back with me now. correct, this is my moment right here. after hearing congressman thompson's comments, how do you think democrats should keep up the urgency of protecting our democracy? especially when they'll be in the minority in the house. >> well, i think we need to all understand that what we saw on january six was a rehearsal. a dry run for the republican party wants to keep doing. there's a reason why another campaigns that continue to talk about the fact that they believe the 2020 election was stolen even though we know that almost everybody who orchestrated that knew that it wasn't. there's a reason why they talk about these grievances over and over again that donald trump has continued to repeat them over and over again.

it's a playbook they'll continue to turn to. they see it as a way to motivate their base, to incite the most extreme in their party. the refusal to even acts of responsibility and culpability for what happened on that day, the fact that the republican party wants a salty just keep moving on and not remember january 6th, it's an indictment on to itself. >> well, you know, brian, congressman mccarthy has signaled -- investigate the january 6th committee's work. along those lines, while they may not believe in what the committee did, they're gonna investigate how it all went down. then, you also have some house republicans who have also vowed to investigate hunter biden's laptop, the secretary home land security, big tech, the origins of suck -- covid-19, and so-called woke ideology and education. do you think this whole strategy could backfire on republicans? because these were not relatives -- these were not winning issues in the midterm elections. >> i think overtime and what we've seen, and let me apologize for my voice, simone,

the dodgers won the bowl last night in dramatic fashion, so i'm a little worse for wear. -- putin would be very good politics. if you take the majority and i are focused on is using the power of your gavel to go after their opponent, voters don't reward that at the ballot box. you know, democrats did not do good politically going after trump on the russia hoax. it backfired on them. i was disappointed after the election, when the republicans barely won the house majority. they had an opportunity to come out at a time when people were concerned about public safety, they're concerned about inflation, they're concerned about what's going on in ukraine. the first thing we heard from these members was about investigations. i don't think it's the right move. you know, doing the right thing, steve kolisi, he's talking about substantive kitchen table issues that are the reason why voters put republicans in control of the house. they want to see a country --

secure border, they want to see something done on inflation, and they want to see some side of accountability for the biden administration. you said nobody voted for the republican agenda, i disagree with you on that. i can promise you no one voted for the build back better plan back when it was first put forward in 2021. >> well, i think some people voted for it because joe biden got elected president. but the question is, did the build back better agenda get implemented, and i think those pieces out there that people say no, it did not. this week, what will folks be watching for? , quickly. what are you watching for this week in washington? given everything you just heard from brian, everything that's going on. >> i think the most interesting thing outside of the drama surrounding kevin mccarthy is what members will republicans a point to the judiciary community, to the house oversight community. what will that tell us about the type of agenda, tone, and tenor that they're going to embrace going forward? if they put on marjorie taylor greene on the house oversight committee, if they put more

extreme fringe white wing members of congress, that's gonna be revealing. about what we can expect from the republican conference going forward. >> all right. i'll be watching. also be watching to see what happens with steve scalise, okay? the people say he could be a secret dark horse speaker. but we've got to go. kurt bardella, brian robbinston, thank you very much. i sound horse because i've been celebrating all week for my husband's birthday. but i'm also horse because i've been reading about this economic here, and coming up next, we're gonna come into what you should expect for 2023 when it comes to the economy and really the affects about a growing disparity when it comes to the racial wealth gap. i've got an expert. stay with us. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger.

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-- and i mean, like, grocery bills, the chicken, the bacon -- we talked about it on the show. but that's good news, folks. the good news is there's been some relief. remember the jaw-dropping 9% inflation? it was already down to 7% by the end of october. but still on the decline. gas prices have also dropped from their peak of $5 a gallon in june to $3.20 today. the reality is we're still facing some significant problems. homeownership, for example, is the least affordable it's ever been ever on record. it would cost a family with the median salary nearly half of their income to pay for a medium priced home. that's up from 30%. check out these figures right here. almost 75% of white households own their homes, but only 45% of black households own their homes. there's plenty of reasons why the numbers look like this. i want to bring in derek hamilton to talk about this. he's the founding director of the institute on race and political economy at the new school, and truly one of the greatest economists i think of

this generation. thank you very much for being here today, professor. i want to get into this conversation about generational wealth. because we know that the path to that generational wealth, which gives families out of poverty, keeps them, out through homeownership. but the pathway is just really full of obstacles for black americans. i wanna put this up on the screen for the -- black families are 41% less likely to be approved for mortgages than white americans. there's also something called appraisal bias. can you explain to folks that they're watching what appraisal bias is and how all of this impacts our community. >> i mean, appraisal bias it's pretty simple and it's definition. all things equal, appraisers downgrade the value of black homes compared to white homes. i mean, it's something that is structural. it's been occurring for quite a long period of time. and it occurs across income groups. even high income blacks,

relative to high income whites, are more likely to have their home appraised at a lower value than that of their white peers. >> when we first by talking about this on the show, they're a lot of people who are surprised to learn that this is actually happening in 2023 now. but there are some things being done to address this. first, when it comes to the racial wealth gap, you've got president biden's effort to relieve student that, then you've got the fair access to financial services act in congress that would prohibit banks from discriminating on the basis of race, religion, or gender, and then when it comes to housing, marcia fudge has this bridging the gap plan that's aimed at helping low income renters build wealth and buy homes. she's also specifically addressing the racial bias in appraisals. when you think about these measures? you support some of them? do you think these are what should be being done? and what other, you know, measures do you think -- and steps should the

administration take? >> the most critical ingredient as it relates to wealth and home ownership is capital itself. so the capacity to facilitate black people to accumulate the resources so they can have that down payment, that, in and of itself, should be front and center. but as you pointed out, when we have things like appraisal bias, or even homeownership discrimination or ventured to skirmish and, for something like discrimination, we need not rely only on individuals bringing claims of discrimination. we should proactively go out and detect it. so if we believe that this is a problem, a blight on our economy, and we value antidiscrimination, why wait? you know, really quick, if we are trying to make sure that our airports are safe and secure, we -- send testers through to see how safe they are. so if we want markets to be fair and efficient for all people, then we should guy and

proactively -- employers, if realtors or bank lenders or appraisers are actively engaging in discrimination. and if they, prosecute them. >> i think this is a systemic answer -- a systemic way to really address some of these root causes. very quickly, one last question for you, it's how optimistic are you that this year, 2023, we'll have substantial progress being made to really close the racial wealth gap in our country? on a scale of 1 to 10. >> scale of 1 to 10? you know, that's a hard thing for me to do. give one single number. but i'm gonna give eight. i'll go with eight. i'm being optimistic. we're moving in a pathway to our changing narratives towards recognizing that we really do need a fair economy. that we do need an economy founded in human rights. >> derek hamilton, thank you so much for being here. you'll be back in 2023.

>> happy new year. >> happy new year. well, folks, we're not done, because when we are back, -- joining me for the regroup, and we're talking about justice for meghan the stallion. we're also gonna get into everyone's new year's route solutions, and why. please stay with us. k in their windshield. [smash] >> dad: it's okay. pull over. >> tech: he wouldn't take his car just anywhere... ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: ...so he brought it to safelite. we replaced the windshield and recalibrated their car's advanced safety system, so features like automatic emergency braking will work properly. >> tech: alright, all finished. >> dad: wow, that's great. thanks. >> tech: stay safe with safelite. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ it is time for the regroup, i

think, when or where digging into the team that is circulating and group chats, and worth kicking things off with meghan pete, also known as megan thee stallion, and day star peterson, aka tory lanez. in a case that seems more like an episode of -- tory lanez guilty of all charges in the 2020 shooting of megan thee stallion. lanes now faces up to 22 years in prison and deportation back to his native country of canada. the scene is set for january 25th. i wanna bring in today's culture critics to discuss this and more. autumn joy is the -- 96.3, and donny manchin is the radio host of pop crush nights. welcome to you both. happy new year. the plot has thickened in this case as it relates to megan thee stallion and tory lanez. we have a full audio clip that's recently surfaced on social media between an alleged call from tory lanez from

prison and megan thee stallion 's best friend and assistant, kelly. and part of the call, lanez admits to being drunk, and apologizes for his actions on the day of the shooting. now, nbc news has not independently verified the authenticity of the call, but donie, do you think this is enough to shut conspiracy theorists down who thought that he was innocent even after the guilty verdict? >> yes. the phone call brought him down. it was probably the reason why he got convicted and found guilty. the problem is, if you knew he recorded this call but he went on this crusade of clueless -ness for years, really, saying he didn't know what happened, he didn't do it, but clearly, he didn't admit to it, but he kind of roundabout apologized for it and said he didn't know what was going on. but also, i will say, it did seem like he had remorse and the phone call. so i will slightly give him the benefit of the doubt there. >> he seemed like he had

remorse on the phone call, but lest we forget that he has a whole album essentially calling megan thee stallion a liar, and mocking her. i just -- this whole case was really, it was disturbing for me, autumn, because so many people jumped on the we don't believe megan bandwagon. why do you think that is? >> well, thanks so much for having me, simone. we know why it is. black women aren't believed when where the victim. and this hopefully will allow people to understand that when we, as black women, state that something happened to us, please believe us. now? we don't always have to be the strong ones here. and you, know to the point earlier stated, tory lanez, like he said, he did go on a hold tour, if you will, of making himself seem innocent. not just that, he got into multiple scuffles with other people while we were waiting for this trial to happen. so, even though he didn't admit that he shot meghan in that

phone call, he apologized, honestly, i believe, because he got caught. he was in the middle of two friends, and the situation escalated to a point where meghan got shot. but again, i do hope that the apologies are just as loud as the accusations against meghan. again, this is a win for meghan, this is the one from black women, and i hope that she's able to find some sort of comfort in knowing that tory is now hopefully gonna be punished for the foolish extent of the law for what he did. >> i'm always wary of jumping into punishment. the last thing i want to say on the top because, is the mental health piece of this -- at what point during this whole debacle, megan thee stallion, he says that tory lanez would've just killed her given everything that she's experienced. donny, very quickly, your thoughts on the mental health piece. >> the mental health is here. the sad thing is, megan will carry through with this for the rest of her life. getting shot is a very traumatic experience. but, also getting shot by

someone you know, and a friend, and so many other people who honestly didn't believe her. that and itself will affect her mental health. >> her entire mental health. let's bring it up. this brought me down. we gotta bring it up. new years resolutions, y'all, there's a lot of people out there talking about dry january now, starting the year off at the gym, kicking off the daniel fast -- y'all know what i'm talking about. autumn, the fast is for me. i'm hungry. but what about you, what about these resets at the top of the? you got any new years resolutions? >> well, kind of jokingly, i decided i'm gonna take a shower every day, simone. yay for me. but you, know i just want to keep walking and my purpose, continuing to do tv appearances with you, symone, i'm so appreciative of the opportunity that you've afforded me, and i want to continue moving far and with my talk show, a radio shows, number one in the dmv area. so -- >> okay! >> i -- >> talking like that, all

right. put that in the atmosphere. i'm just grateful that you all are constantly coming back, bringing us the team in the group chats, and breaking down such an important conversation. , donie autumn joi, happy new year, i appreciate you both so much. thank, you guys. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. before we go, everyone, really want to take time to remember a needle pointer of the grammy award winning pointer sisters. she passed away yesterday at 74 years old. the pointer sisters rose to fame in the 70s and 80s with songs like, i'm so excited, and jump. and the approach play music really spread dry and left hearts around the world. we're keeping her family and our thoughts and our prayers. thank you all so much for watching symone on this new year's day. i am symone, i'm very happy to be here. you need to keep it right here as well, because the webbies are starting right after a very short break.

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