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awards. from rockefeller center, here is your host, al sharpton. >> good evening. welcome to politics nations 12th annual revvie awards. that's where we celebrate the best and worst of politics in 2022, and give awards to those who deserve it. i'm honored to have been bringing in some of the most significant and memorable moments this past year. and what a year and has been. with that, let's bring in our esteemed panel. republican strategist and msnbc coulee -- political analyst, susan el presidio. danielle moodie, host of the

woke a f daily, and democracy podcast. and, -- host of -- right here on may msnbc. this year was dominated by the midterm elections. with that in mind, let's get right to our first revvie. the biggest political showdown. i'll share a few of my own nominees to get us started. then, the panel can chime in. the first is the senate showdown in pennsylvania between john fetterman and dr. oz. oz won the republican nomination based on fame, and he got dispensed -- dispensing medical advice on tv, but it was futterman's help that was the big concern -- health that was a big concern when he suffered a stroke after the campaign. and the, and dr. oz had no cure for allegations he wasn't a

true pennsylvanian, and fetterman will be packing up his hoodies and handing for capitol hill. my next nominee, the rumble in the desert for arizona governor. maga republican -- fell head over heels for lakes tv ready smoothness. but arizona preferred the lucky confidence of their democratic secretary of state. lake campaigned on a platform of denying the 2020 election results, and now, she's raising questions about her own defeat. although yet again, there's no evidence to support her claims. which brings me to my final epic showdown. the growing rivalry between florida governor ron desantis, former president donald trump. the new york post helpfully broke down the feud between the two on the front page.

desantis cruised to reelection, throwing red meat to the republican base, and it looks like the future, while many of trump's handpicked candidates lost their races, making him a political laughing stock right before his rushed announcement of a third presidential campaign. panel, what are your thoughts? >> well, i'm gonna put ron desantis and donald trump for later. because we're gonna have a lot of time to discuss that in the last -- next couple years. i was very relieved to see john fetterman run, particularly after that debate in which it drew attention to his struck. look, people who don't die of strokes usually get a lot better. but americans have difficulty processing this. having difficulty processing the language in that debate. almost started to think he might just win the campaign by staying home. but he won, and i thought that

was meaningful. the kari lake and katie hobbs situation with something else, because katie hobbs got a lot of criticism for not getting out there, for not debating her, for not having the high energy campaign that kari lake had, but in the end, katie hobbs -- trying to remember how you described, but she was just sort of tenacious, most of the grindstone, secretary of state, did her job, and in the end, conservatives and arrogance ana looked to her and chose her over kari lake, because this, at arizona's got along rich conservative history. we don't need this. >> and hobbs understood that better -- >> in hindsight, she probably did. >> i will tell you that i watched the katie hobbs and kay lake election, and initially, i was really critical of katie hobbs not showing up, deciding not to debate, because i thought it was a missed opportunity. anytime you have an opportunity to speak to the voters, he should get out front and speak to the voters. but, then i said, you know, maybe she's on to something.

because kari lake, she's just gonna turn this into a circus. she's gonna show up and vacuum carpets like she did before donald trump's appearance in arizona. she's a stick. that's what she has. and katie hobbs said i'm a serious candidate that cares about the people of arizona. so i respected her for her decision, and clearly, the people of arizona did it was well. four john fetterman and oz, oz is not even from pennsylvania. and -- >> he's not from a few places. >> so -- right. different countries, different homes, and to be honest, dr. oz stopped making sense to me when i realized that he was just running infomercials instead of providing medical advice to people. so you can't just write high on fame. and that is what john fetterman showed. you control, tell the people the truth, and guess, what you don't need to do it in the second play. you can put on a hoodie and be with the people. so i appreciated that. die and beron desantis and trum,

we'll get to that. >> well, the ron desantis and donald trump, with the post cover you showed, i have to say it was one of my favorite moments. guy from florida announces he's running from president -- >> from the post, which would help them all his career. >> so that was a noteworthy moment. asked want to say, as far as races that really showed who people are, the warnock rocker race, the way the ad was used with herschel walker's own words, really -- i mean, what is showtime. herschel walker versus himself. it really worked. but i think the overreaching theme was, out of control trump crazy does not win. >> right. >> so i look at the air, and i say, get. we have a much better year than we thought we were going to. >> all right. okay. now, let's go to the revvie award fort heroes and heels of 2022. let's start with my picks for

the mvps of the midterm. former president barack obama came out of political retirement to make a real difference on the campaign trail this year. obama, crisscrossing the country, campaigning in keep battleground states, including pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona, and nevada, as high energy rallies where something democrats could believe in. wherever the former president went, blue victories would often follow. the other here, outgoing house speaker nancy pelosi. pelosi's fundraising is always a secret weapon for democrats, but just as importantly, she was able to keep her big tent caucus unified during a year in which many parties -- were bracing for the worst. democrats just barely missed

holding on to the hunter ivy. pelosi ends this chapter of her illustrious political career on a definite ina. danielle, your thoughts? >> you know, i have to give it to nancy pelosi. nancy pelosi's career has been absolutely storied. yeah now, she remains women that just because you've entered into your 40s does not mean that you're done. she created them entirely new career for herself, and i think that people forgot that. and just the legacy and her fire over the areas, especially going toe to toe with donald trump throughout his entire term, i mean -- >> and not winning. >> i mean, that's not hard. but the means wrote themselves, with the shades and glasses, her style, her elegance, her fire. she's incredible. who doesn't love to see obama on the trail? who didn't love him saying, you know, i thought about vampires

and werewolves when talking about herschel walker when i was seven. you know, we forgot how funny he is, and i forgot, actually, the joy of politics, until we saw him on the campaign trail. and i said, oh, i remember why i love this. i remember way -- >> before politics got all ugly. >> yeah. so yeah, these are good choices. >> ali? >> you know, i think we had a lot of time to talk about barack obama and how mesmerizing he is in a room, and we will still have more. feels like 2022 is a great moment for nancy pelosi to remember a fairly basic thing. i'm an economics guy. nancy pelosi can count. she used a calculator. he did bring a vote to the floor that she was going to lose. she knew what she had to do to keep her caucus together, and what she allowed the dissidents and her caucus to do was beat dissidents. she allowed them to say, i got, it i get you don't want to support this. i find a couple other people, will delay the vote until we get it. just masterful at her craft. as much as she was great when she came up to a podium and had witty things to say, that's not

where her work was. she was, like we talked about katie hobbs, like we talked about so many other -- like we're gonna talk about hakeem jeffries. people who just do their white. that nancy pelosi did her work first and talked about it later. >> let's get to the heels of 2022. starting with a familiar face. former president donald trump. trump continues to portray himself as a kingmaker. but the midterms further undermined that dubious claim. a washington post analysis results found, quote, trump's position with the republican party might be the worst one possible. very effective at getting his candidates to win primaries, but speaking to his base -- but ineffective at getting those candidates to win in november, unquote. but trump wasn't the only saboteur --

republican political prospects and 22. supreme court justice clarence thomas was one of the six conservative supreme court judges who voted to overturn roe versus wade this summer. but he didn't stop. while most republicans insisted the dobbs decision was narrowly tailored to the issue of abortion, justice thomas penned a concurring opinion suggesting game marriage, birth control, and even same-sex relations could be on the chopping block. the backlash to the dobbs decision proved to be a major factor in republican's disappointing showing in the midterms. susan, let us get going. >> absolutely. i mean, clarence thomas was a heel, that's for sure. but he wasn't allowed. whereas, i think donald trump really alone, on his self, is responsible for hitting the

republican parties -- and ways it will take almost a generation to come back from. >> yes. >> when you look at donald trump talking about 2022, he never talked about it. he went to all these campaign rallies, he wasn't like barack obama getting into it, doing turnout for candidates. he went there and talked about 2020. and himself. it was all about donald. so not only was he -- he hurt candidates, and imagine a former president -- and right now, the leading, only republican candidate for president, he was a welcome in georgia. they said, no thank you. >> which is unthinkable. >> crazy. so i think he really was a heels heel. >> give me some heels. >> i have to give it to clarence thomas. we look at justices, the supreme court, as these esteemed thinkers. these analytic, you know, people who are literally above

the rest of us. right? and clarence thomas had an opportunity to recuse himself when deciding the case about offering up donald trump's tax returns, when offering up the phone records, right? but the house panel, january six panel asked for, because guess whose phone number might of appeared there? his wife's. right? which we knew was very heavily involved in the insurrection. and so, the fact that we have this weaponized supreme court, that clarence thomas is a star of that weaponized supreme court, the fact that he would allude to putting everything, every right that has been one, that actually allowed that man to sit in that seat, he was putting on the chopping block. and so, for me, he's the ultimate heel of 2022. and he should be investigated. >> we have, on most of the time, but i have to -- >> i got a split. i think donald trump is a helium balloon that we're watching to flight.

i want to give him the credit of this. i think it's clients thomas, the issue, as i'm not sure if ezekiel or he should be times person of the air and split it with his wife. these people have been more influential in politics towards the end of 2022 than clarence thomas has been for all the time he's been on the supreme court. so, i think he's more influential. not sure whether he's a heel or he's help us understand who we are and what we had to fight. >> right. >> all right, we're just getting started here. much more to come. don't go anywhere. as we go to break, a look back at some of the funniest late night jokes from 2022. >> actually, trump supporters think biden knew about the raid before it happened. the white house said that he didn't. biden can't win with trump supporters. one day, he's completely seen, all the next, he knows everything. [laughter] icious subs. there's the philly, the monster, the boss. if i hadn't seen it in person, i wouldn't have believed it.

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>> time, now, to hand out our revvie's to the history maker of 2022. our first nominee is justice

ketanji brown jackson, who in june was sworn in as the first black woman on the supreme court. justice jackson's groundbreaking confirmation -- fulfillment of a campaign promise president joe biden made to south carolina congressman, jim clive brown. and, so many black voters, to the many black voters, i should, say who turned out to elect biden in 2020, also making history, house democratic leader and elected by the democrats and house, hakeem jeffries. the new york congressman became the first african american party leader after speaker pelosi announced she would step aside last month. leader jeffries will have an important role in a congress of unprecedented diversity.

a record 149 women will serve and the next house, including the highest number of black and hispanic females ever. also making history, as 25 year old florida congressman, maxwell frost, the first gen z member of congress, but certainly not the last. ali, anyone else you want to highlight? >> there are a number of those kinds of forest -- young people, people from nontraditional backgrounds who got elected not even to congress in georgia. there was a muslim american women who wear a hijab who have gone to an event to talk about getting involved in politics, and she told the reporter that she's planning on running a marathon, and it got misinterpreted as she was planning on running, -- she decided to run, and got elected. in illinois, there is another young woman, younger than max foster, it got elected to the state legislature. i want to focus on hakeem jeffries for a second.

like we talked about katie hobbs earlier, hakeem jeffries is not all fire and brimstone. right? >> i got him 25 years. >> quiet guy. just gonna do is work. and maybe that's what america needs. >> and maybe that is what america needs. danielle? >> i was just so impressed by maxwell frost. i think that he is incredible. i think that protesters counted generation z out, and said they weren't gonna show up, and they were gonna stay home during the midterm elections. not only did they show up and bring democrats winds that they needed, and also really where the ones that stopped this, quote unquote, red wave, that was supposed to be coming -- but maxwell frost showed up and reminded us, good people do run for office. good people and young people run for office, and they can change the world. >> and all people aren't anti-system or irresponsible. susan? >> i'll go back to hakeem jeffries, maybe because i'm a

new yorker, and i don't know him as long as you do. but the thing that's important to recognize is how pragmatic he is. he's someone who will make deals, will reach across the aisle for the right thing. it's not gonna saad's values, but i think seeing him on the news every day, seeing hakeem jeffries, a young, vibrant elected official, who is out there, it's so important. because he's not from the old guard. it's something that will be recognized nationally almost every day. >> and he's always been like that. i think that -- you know, i don't, i'm like i said, since he was maybe in his early 30s or late twenties. he's always been that way. we have more of the revvie's coming up for you, and more lighthearted moments from the year. we'll be right back. >> and it's my belief that the election is rigged, the results should be thrown out. >> it sounds like some new numbers are coming in, which has you taking a narrow lead over katie hobbs. >> which is why i've always

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politicsnation's 12th annual revvie's. i'm here with our panel, susan, daniel, and ali. let's talk about the best and

worst political ads of 2022. let's start with the most brilliant spots of this midterm election. democrat john fetterman got plenty of laughs from his clever, needling of his republican opponent, dr. oz, over his checkered career as a tv doctor and dubious connections to the state of pennsylvania. but one i had from a super pac supporting fetterman seemed to put him on the yellow brick road to victory. take a look. >> if you are really great and powerful, it keep your promises. >> physicians say doctor oz as a quack. >> the only thing that people like doctor oz care about is themselves. >> you're a very bad man. >> remember doctor oz. the wizard of lies. >> pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! [inaudible] now, fetterman

wasn't the only politician with a knack for going viral. in louisiana, democratic senate candidate gary chambers locked the cash to blanket the tv airways of his republican incumbent, senator jon kennedy. so he dreamed up some low budget but provocative ads he knew the media could not ignore. including, one where he smoked marijuana to call attention to the cost of the drug where, and another where he burned the confederate flag. chambers lost his race, but sparked a lot of conversation. and then, that is road island state senator trat -- tiara mac, who probably wasn't expecting a tiktok she posted of herself to working on the beach to become a turning point in her campaign. but, when the eight second clip

attracted a lot of attention and criticism, she turned to controversy into a teachable moment about the double standards women of color face. >> i am i surprised that the internet is more ready to talk about me twerking upside down on america's birthday yesterday, then they are ready to talk about any of the policy winds i had this year? or any of the other accomplishments i've had outside of the senate chamber? inside the senate chamber? i'm not surprised. >> now, miss mack won her race. a race for reelection. she won, and she will be shaking things up in politics for years to come. panel, your thoughts? danielle, you first. >> i had the opportunity to interview tiara. she made brilliant points. right? it is about the faux

controversy, the faux outrage, the body shaming, the ownership over black women's bodies. they didn't pay attention to her, but she got them to pay attention to our policies, and she was able to flip the script and have a really smart conversation. you know, and i think that's what politics needs. taking these viral moments and turning them into real conversations about real issues and policies. she did it brilliantly. >> no, i remember when -- some video of her dancing, and that was like the worst thing? this is like footloose, man. what are we worried about? democracy?king, b there are actually people working to bring down democracy. if you can for condense and give us something to smile about in the meantime, on an even get why these things become issues. she's completely right. focus on the right things. >> susan? >> i'm gonna take it through but when once, a few, well as a political octave. i have to dig -- give it to two of the three ads, meaning those that had these low budget clips that went viral, you, now the super pac adieu show probably had

millions and millions of dollars behind it, and they could do whatever they want it. these ads went directly to the people, and it shows you how powerful a single voice can be fighting for their issues. >> that's very true. and the really did a good job, because it was picked up by news outlets, and it didn't cost the money they didn't have. >> right. >> now, let's get to the worst ads. and a cycle where republicans worked overtime to connect democrats to exaggerated accounts of out of control crime, there's no surprise there campaign commercials were spiked with a heavy dose of racism. iowa's republican governor, kim reynolds, ran against democrat who did not support defunding the police. but, there was no problem for governor reynolds. she just went ahead and cut in

there, featuring a completely different black woman from another state. take a look. >> defunding the police has to happen -- >> watching the news, you wonder, as the rest of the country lost its mind? attacks on police. open borders. paying people not to work. aren't you glad you live in iowa? >> but, when i first annual golden dog with sal must go to louisiana senator and oxford -- brad john kennedy. the other john kennedy didn't try any clever sleight of hand with his racist messaging. he just looked straight in the camera, and said this. >> look, if you hate cops just because their cops, the next time you get in trouble, call a craighead. i'm john kennedy, and i approve this message. >> let's bring our panel back in.

aly -- >> i'm a little speechless about that one. i forgot that ad. john kennedy, known for being fairly direct. is the one that report is going to in the senate, because he's always got some kind of cork. it lean on the fact that he's quirky and says things the way he means them. but, you, know we've long since got rid of the dog whistle in american politics. everybody just says the quiet part out loud. but that iowa ad with something else. literally, as you said, taking just another black woman -- >> any black women -- >> and making the point. so yeah, i think we're in that area where there is no dog whistling anymore. they're gonna peel straight to racism, go for it. >> straight ahead. danya? >> for me, i just look at these, and they say, to at least point, yeah. there's no dog whistle. they're full on bullhorns. the podiums and stage is set up to be as racist as possible. republicans reward racism and misogyny. it's extraordinary, right? and we should call it out when we see it. but it is just gotten worse over the last seven plus years.

i've never seen anything like it. that commercial, kraken? really? that's what we're doing? >> but kennedy said it. he said it straight to camera. it does show you where we are in our politics in this nation. but the iowa ad it's also really dangerous because of the way we're using imagery. and we know that it was -- different states, and use of a different clip than the person she was running against, and that deceitful-ness as something that has run through politics and doesn't get called out. at least you could call out kennedy for being racist and saying something awful, because that he is. >> let me ask you something. you're -- got is a good at? what makes it that? >> a good ad is when you can show the candidate and talk about their positives, and the candidate can pop straight to the people. it's usually the most powerful. i will say, and a tough race, you need negative advertising. nowadays, you tend to rely on

super pacs to do the negative while your campaign office is the positive. so, i think that's what they were trying to do in iowa, it was just so deceitful. >> -- >> one of the worst ads in american political history is one of the best ads. willie horton. right? was that a great ad or the worst at ever? it cost him on the presidency, but on the other hand, it directly appealed to people's fears. which is what kennedy just that. there's an overwhelming sense in america that crime is out of control, whether the numbers bear that out or not. when you make ads that are directed at them, you know, or fairly sophisticated about defund the police now. we realized after talking about it for a few years what people actually mean, and generally speaking, they mean redirect resources -- more helpful to the people in need and prevent unnecessary interactions between the police and people they pull over, they stop. we know that. that's an ad from three years ago, two years ago, that's what it feels like. it feels like john kennedy has not evolved into the discussion we're actually having in

america right now about policing, which we've all realized across the political spectrum to be a problematic area. >> absolutely. okay, stay with us. still plenty to cover, including al franklin, the moon berry pie award. and as we go to break, a special shout out to republican -- paulson of utah. and the lyrical prowess wasn't quite enough to get her elected to the state senate. but, rap legend she is, will live on. ♪ ♪ ♪

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was in politics. it's time for a politicsnation favorite. the alfred sea sharpton blueberry pie lifetime achievement award. every year, they look around and ask, who has the most blueberry pie on their face? this year, herschel walker gets his choice of blueberry pie or peach cobbler. we ended up learning more about walker's family tree than his political views during his two failed campaigns for georgia senate this year. and, former trophy winner -- can't have been much fun than sacked by former president barack obama. >> mister walker has been talking about issues that are of great importance to the people of georgia. like whether it's better to be a vampire or a werewolf. this is a debate that i must

confess i once had myself. when i was seven. [laughter] [applause] then, i grew up. my second pick is the likely next speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy. you don't normally get this award for winning, but with the much narrower than expected republican advantage in the house, mccarthy now finds himself having to constantly placate the most extreme members of his caucus. and with trump already running again for the white house, mccarthy won't spend a single day in charge. he is not having to respond to the former guys antics. it is a sticky situation and finally, we cannot forget elon musk.

so i am giving him a slice to. we might never know -- for twitter he bought it. he broke. it in this return policy is null and void. with hate peeped in exploding and employees fleeing for the exits, it seems the only the only thing sinking is musk's bank account. to anyone else, you see with the blueberry pie -- >> i mean, i would have to say, anyone who worked for donald trump in taking care of those documents, probably would qualify. there is quite a few. i mean, he is just unraveling. but the elon musk is really interesting. i hadn't thought about that. and why to me, i really want to focus on it, is -- herschel walker, that is this

year. kevin mccarthy, he can't really be effective. he is one house republican right now. but elon musk and the head hate speech has just affected our society in a different way. and i think what, the legacy that he has created is really dangerous and one that will put a lot of people, frankly, in harm. that concerns me. >> danielle. >> it is elon musk for me, all the way. because also, i don't think elon musk broke twitter. i think he is doing with it what he intended to do. it was the global communities town hall, and he wanted to destroy it. it is where organizers went, it is where activists and journalists have gone to create movements right? and to give voice to people who don't have access. he wanted to destroy that. he did a great job of doing so. because right now, when i look at my comments, there are

barrages of hateful, disgusting, racist things that we see that we weren't seeing several months ago. what does that, it makes people like me make a decision. do i continue to use my voice, or do i go someplace else? either way, he wins. >> yeah. i am with everybody here. herschel walker is an example of democracy actually having worked. kevin mccarthy is an example of democracy complicating his life as speaker. we have still got those two things that are pillar of democracy outwork. elon musk is in charge of a platform upon which democracy depends. in other words, our democracy depends on an informed electorate. twitter is making people dame and hateful. and i am worried about the effect that is going to have on the future. we need good dialogue, we need honest debate. what elon musk, who i think is one of the smartest guys in the world has done, has gone and set us back. he needs to read a pamphlet on the first amendment and we need to to send him what a pocket constitution to explain what the first amendment is. i worry about where that is going. >> anyone else?

with blueberry pie nominations. >> donald trump. donald trump has all the pie on his face. donald trump's organization has been you know, has been convicted on 17 charges. donald trump has, we found that he held documents in his home at mar-a-lago. donald trump, he has a special counsel that has been appointed to investigate. he is going to be referred for criminal charges. donald trump is the pie. we are just waiting for the indictment. >> anyone else? nfl holders? >> oh, jessie jones. yes. he was just -- he was just a kid, as they say. a white supremacist, segregationist child. >> i will add tommy temporal. for the rally he did in arizona. that was beyond disgraceful.

he, i mean, we have seen some ads that are clearly no, like we said, we don't take dog whistles anymore, but he went out there and i tell you, to me, that easily could have been a kkk rally then a republican campaign rally. that was really -- it wasn't long lasting, but to me, that speech was terrifying. >> it was enough to get him a blueberry pie award. stay with us. coming up, the panel looks into their crystal balls to predict what will happen in 2023. don't go anywhere. don't go anywhere. >> tech: cracked windshield? make it easy and schedule with safelite, because you can track us and see exactly when we'll be there. >> woman: i have a few more minutes. let's go! >> tech vo: that's service that fits your schedule. go to safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ listen, i'm done settling. because this is my secret. i put it on once, no more touch ups!

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awards, from rockefeller center! here is your host, alice sharpton. we're >> okay. we are wrapping things up here at the ravi's. ending with a look at our judges great expectations. their predictions for 2023. now remember what you can say it is on tape. and we will be served against two next year. who wants to go first? >> go ahead. >> 2020 and hopefully to me. for one big reason. that is, for the last several years, in your case for the last 60 years you, have been talking about something that feels like democracy. the civil rights movement, it is all about democracy. there are always people interested in it and a whole lot of people that say i got a job, i got a life i, can't worry about it. democracy became important again to people, even if it didn't affect them in 2022.

part of that is roe v. wade, part of that is the continuation of some of these social justice movements we have had, most of it was the midterm elections. people said i can hold two thoughts in my head, i can say there is inflation and i am worried about it but i'm also worried about democracy. so i think this year and with hope. we go into 2023 being able to say, we can discuss the begrudge shoes in society as well as the small ones that affect you day today. >> daniel. >> i have to agree. i am all's always -- mustard seed of hope. i feel like we are ending 2022 where i believe that more people in this country, more americans have become conscious of their responsibility of the -- responsible in understanding that their votes matter. their voices matter and that they need to show up. when they do, they can hold peoples feet to the fire. so, we were bracing ourselves for midterms that would be

disastrous and it wasn't. why wasn't it? because people showed up. they realized that politics actually does matter, to their day-to-day lives. and so i go into 2023 -- >> lots of people showed up, young people showed up when they said they wouldn't, old people did. -- they wouldn't come out -- >> this stood in line. so i think we go into 2023 with a conscious and responsible citizen tree that is ready to take on the gas lighters. >> just a follow-up on that, it is also important to recognize that 2022 midterm elections, we didn't have violence that was predicted. that to me -- this should be considered normal, by the way. but there was a lot of fear about violence. for the most part, republicans, even election deniers, they admit they lost, herschel walker said i lost. they didn't go into -- so i think that is a great

point. -- i'm going to make a prediction, because i always like to go big on your show, even though i have been wrong a couple of times. is that, this time next year or, donald trump will not be a candidate. for president. >> oh. >> not until the end of the year. so. >> really? >> hopefully, before we record the reviews for 2023. >> we'll be in prison? >> -- [inaudible] >> why are you predicting this? >> i think, between his legal troubles especially, i think there's a potential that he could make a deal. he could plead down to some other charges that would prevent him. that keeps him from running for office. it could also be, that he knows he is going to lose. he doesn't like to lose. and frankly, he doesn't have to run. to cause trouble in 2023 2024. he is going to cause it. >> who is the candidate, if not him? >> do not know. that is what the magic eight

ball says. do not know now. check back later. >> we got you on tape. that does it for us. we had lots of fun many, thanks to susan del percio, daniel mooney and ali belski. remember, politicsnation is live each saturday and sunday on 5 pm eastern, right here on msnbc. have a wonderful 2023. a wonderful 2023. you've been watching the 2022 ravi awards. brought to you by reverend al sharpton and politicsnation. thanks for watching! we will see you next year. have a happy holiday season. py holiday season. hi there everybody, happy holidays. we are so glad you are here with us. as we take a moment, to