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everybody. i'm lindsey riser in for katy tur in new york city. the big news today, the potentially historic battle surrounding house republican leadership and the growing resistance to kevin mccarthy, as he scrambles to find and secure the 218 votes he needs to become the next speaker. despite that, we learned over the weekend that mccarthy has already moved into the speaker suite in the capitol, if he secures the votes, no problem, but if he doesn't, he'll have to move out and that is seeming like more of a possibility by the day. before sunday, the number of republicans openly opposing kevin mccarthy was five but that number has appeared to grow after nine more republicans released a letter saying that mccarthy's concessions up to this point have not been enough to win them over. one of the original five, congressman bob good says the plan is to deny kevin mccarthy the votes he needs and see what happens. >> what we'll do is we'll block kevin. i suspect there will be 10 or 15

members who will vote against him on the first ballot tomorrow. they will vote for andy bigs. i think you will see on the second ballot, an increasing number of members vote for a true candidate who can represent the conservative center of the conference, can motivate the base, inspire republicans across the country and get 218 votes and bring our congress together to fight against the radical democrat agenda. >> who could that person be? let's bring in senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, and andrew carney, congressional correspondent for "the new york times." >> congressman good there wouldn't say who he thought could beat kevin mccarthy. where does this meet republicans? >> everyone's favorite topic of speculation on capitol hill right now. you can pick your fantasy speaker if you want. the question is who will get to 218 if not kevin mccarthy is very much an open one. right now they're stuck. mccarthy just left the capitol a short time ago, we were with him trying to gauge how he was feeling and he continued to

project optimism he will be able to close the gap with his opposition faction if you will. as you pointed out in the intro, the number of republicans opposing him is growing in recent days from the five hard core never kevin mccarthy republicans to the bigger group of nine who want more rules changes and concessions. kevin mccarthy can make those nine happy potentially, he could give away some of the powers that speakers have accumulated over the years and try to satisfy them. if you're bob good, or matt gaetz or some of the other folks who vowed never to support kevin mccarthy and you're dug in, we could be in for a very, very long day, or perhaps several days, i feel, and last time a house speaker bout went beyond the first vote is 100 years ago. it is not uncharted territory but there is nobody around here that knows what it will look like after the first vote happens tomorrow afternoon. >> garrett, real quick. how you would characterize the fact that he has already moved into the spiker's office? >> that's -- speaker's office.

>> that is norm until the course of doing business when the control of congress changes over but the last time this happened with speaker pelosi, who you will remember had her own battle behind the scenes to line up the votes to be speaker, between democrats winning the majority in 2018 and taking it in 2019, but by the time that vote came to the floor, in 2019, she knew she had the votes, so you know, look, real estate can project some power, can project some authority and look like mccarthy has some momentum but moving out of that office without grasping the strings and becoming speaker could be painful personalfully they're not able to pull it off the next couple of days. >> and mccarthy is trying to cut some deals with republicans but trying to essentially do the bare min yum to get to 218. do you have any sense of what more he can offer to get the votes he needs? >> well, the main concession he's made is on this motion to vacate, which is typically

requiring half of the house to vote to remove you from the speakership, this was a nonstarter from mccarthy and over the weekend, he made a concession, one that we didn't think he would ever make, which was to allow five people to bring up a motion to vacate. that was a huge concession. because usually in congress, if you want something, you can find a few more people to get with you, to get that done. so bringing it down to five is a major concession, but key go even farther, and say, maybe, one member could bring up a motion to vacate. this would be basically starting out his term as speaker, getting every single member of his conference a way to get rid of him immediately. like basically as people put it, writing your resignation letter, and leaving it undated, as you begin your new job. it is unlikely he will do that, but you know, there are questions when you go down to one, that is unlikely, but there is still, you know, you have

another day and they're negotiating now and what is left to do to win over the votes. >> i want to read part of that letter signed by these nine republicans, the times call for radical departure from the status quo. not a continuation of past and ongoing republican failures. i mean punch bowl news characterizes this essentially saying there are plenty of republicans who think the house has not operated properly for decades. why does it seem though like they have so much leverage this time around? >> well, first of all, the narrow majority, the red wave that never existed. the republicans hold 222 seats in the house. mccarthy needs 218. that's a razor thin margin to be playing with here. when he thought he was assured the speakership, they thought they would be able to easily lose these five detractors and thought they wouldn't need them but there is a slim majority. that is one reason. another reason kevin mccarthy is liked by his conference, he is liked by republicans, but he's

not beloved. you know, his favor ability is not particularly high. and he is doing, another issue for him, he is dealing with a not of chaos. it is not clear, to your last question, what can he offer them? the frustration among mccarthy allies is he has offered them everything they demanded and they're still no. he's dealing with negotiators who, you know, don't necessarily want to negotiate. they want to block him from being speaker, and they want chaos, and there's not much you can do when that is sitting across from you at the negotiating table. one thing that working in mark carthy's -- mccarthy's favor, what people who support him are saying, the thing here, there s-there is no obvious alternative. if not kevin mccarthy, then who? there is not a paul ryan sitting in the wings. it is not clear what anyone wants if it's not him. so that's what they think is working in his favor. >> garrett, three of those

lawmakers that are sitting at the negotiating table who just signed on to that letter just got elected. they haven't even been sworn in. could they represent internal opposition that we don't really have a handle on yet? >> yes, that's possible. although i think it sun likely that the opposition among the new members goes deeper than that. and the opposite, for the new members, kevin mccarthy is the central figure in the fact that they are there. kevin mccarthy weighs something in the neighborhood of half a billion for his associated pacs and congressional leadership fund, all of the various groups that helped these members get elected. so i think in many cases, the newer members in this congress, and the preceding congress, with the republicans also picking up seats, are the ones who might owe kevin mccarthy the most. some of these folks who have been around a little bit longer, you look at the signings of the letter, chip roy, an old line tea party guy, those are the people where i think the opposition to mccarthy has been baked in, going back in some cases a decade or nor. and that's where i would be more concerned if i were kevin mccarthy, than these newer

members. although the presence of even two on that kind of squishy, maybe, we don't really like kevin mccarthy but we're not saying we're voting against him list is not where you want to be, again, if you're trying to get to 218. >> once again, garrett haake with the official technical term at squishy. thank you both so much the speaker battle highlights gop division in the house, president biden is trying to showcase political unity, not only among democrats but with republicans as well, on wednesday, mitch mcconnell and president bide. and a pair of local governors who highlight a trillion worth of infrastructure spending approved through bipartisan spending last year. joining me is peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the nooips and msnbc political analyst and jonathan allen senior national politics reporter for nbc news. jonathan, we have been talking about this year, this is a rare joint event, what do we know about this event wednesday? >> so the president is going to covington, kentucky, and folks

have been from kentucky, to cincinnati, in the past, they crossed the bridge and president biden has promised to fix the damn bring and leaders of ohio and kentucky together to apply for grant money for the significant infrastructure passed and $1.6 billion to refurbish that bridge that connects kentucky to ohio, and you're going to get not only mitch mcconnell but governor mike dewooin of ohio, a republican, and governor andy bashar of kentucky, a democrat and sherrod brown possibly, a democratic ohio senator. not just bipartisan but int inter-state. this is what joe biden promised when he ran for president in 2016 and now he has gotten buy-in from some of the republicans at least of the names of dewine and mcconnell. >> former president donald trump

over the holiday weekend said he is not to blame for republicans poor performance in the midterms and the blame should be placed on the combination of how republicans ran on abortion and mitch mcconnell. we just talked about gop division in the house, because of these factions. meanwhile the former president leader of the company continues to blame the senate minority leader. is this as fractured of a republican party as you've seen in some time? >> yes, because it is a long sort of unnegotiable line here, basically. you're either for donald trump or you're not for donald trump. it's not ideological, it is not even, you know, a philosophical cleavage, it really is about loyalty to the former president and that is certainly what he wants to characterize anyway. and you can see in his statement, that he doesn't, he's not about hardened unity and building it, and he put out another statement in which he listed all of the republicans that he had taken down, including senators and congressmen and others, who he considered to be his enemies, and therefore helped to defeat

in the primaries or force them to retire and bragging his ability to defeat other republicans. that's not what you want to see in a party. and in this party, that's what you get with donald trump, is he is either with him or against him. for him, the problem is that a lot more are against him. and he is trying to reinforce discipline, if you will and reinforce the fear factor and the intimidation factor that, you know, the factor where republicans are willing to go along with him so long and watching them drift away and clearly he is frustrated by that. >> we have this purported show of unty that we will see this week, though, how difficult of a reality will it be for president biden to pass anything new over the next two years? >> well, you know, republicans control the house, that's not going to be an amenable situation for him. they're not going to be obviously looking to advance the parts of his agenda that we like to that would be satisfying to democrats in terms of social spending or more climate change initiatives or immigration, and things like that. there are possibilities there

for bipartisan, you know, consensus building, they could theoretically, if you talk to the white house, coming together on things like legislation, regulating big tech, or maybe it is crime legislation, there are some areas where they see room for possible compromises, but i don't think anybody in the white house is banking on that. i think they like the image that they have on wednesday, and for all of the reasons john just talked about that biden loves to be seen as a bipartisan leader and coming back to washington, mitch mcconnell will do everything he can to stand up against most of biden's agenda. and even more so, the house republicans. it is going to be the speaker kevin mccarthy, if he is the speaker, he will have to keep the five or 15 or 20 or or however many, you know, really hard right conservatives in his caucus happy, because the minute he doesn't, they can take him out. that's the compromise andy carney just talked about him making. >> let's jump three spaces past go here, and 2023 just began,

but it feels like the race for 2024 will really heat up. what do you expect in terms of candidate announcements in the coming months? >> i think we're going to get more in the coming months and the question is which months and which candidates, and there is some thought that ron desantis the governor of florida will wait until after, if he does, wait until after the legislative session of florida, the events of june, pointing out the same thing with the governor of virginia might wait until after the legislative session in virginia. there are several candidates who look they are closer, edging toward, it former vice president mike pence looks like a candidate right now, on a book tour and seems to be putting his team together and former trump administration officials, nikki haley, and mike pompeo, former secretary of state looks like he is positioning himself to make a decision.

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accused of attacking three nypd officers with a machete now faces attempted murder charges. the violent attack happened hours before midnight on new years eve, blocks away from the heart of times square. kathy park has more from new york city as investors work to piece it together. >> reporter: officials are telling us that the suspect, 19-year-old trevor bigford of wells, maine, is still hospitalized at this hour and it is unclear when he will be released. we have just learned he has been formally arrested and charged with two counts of attempted murder and two counts of attempted assault. and within the past 24 hours, we learned a little bit more about the suspect. we learned that he was actually on law enforcement's radar. because the family member of his alerted them, just a couple of weeks ago, for his pro jihadist view, and the same views were shared while he was in the hospital this weekend. officials also got a hold of his backpack from his personal belongings and in that backpack were terrorist propaganda, cash,

as well as a pocketknife. meanwhile, we also saw fbi agents on sunday at his family home. so obviously, a lot of questions about what motivated him to do this, and police are saying that he acted alone and there is no longer a threat in the city. back to you. >> kathy park, thank you. the washington state grad student arrested in the killings of four idaho college students could be back in idaho as early as tomorrow to face charges. authorities arrested 28-year-old bryan kohberger on friday in pennsylvania and his public defender says he won't fight extradition. here's nbc's gadi schwartz with new details about the investigation. >> reporter: with the suspect finally in custody, after a seven-week man hunt, the search for justice is only beginning. >> detectives arrested the 28-year-old bryan kohberger. >> reporter: early friday, officials took bryan kohberger into custody at his parent's

home in northeastern pennsylvania on suspicion of the murder of four college students in moscow, idaho. after graduating, he enrolled in a doctoral program in criminal justice at washington state university, miles from the university of idaho campus and the scene of the murders. he's being held in pennsylvania, where his public defender says bikz was shocked by the arrest. >> he believes he will be exonerated. >> the lawyer reading a statement from bryan kohberger's family. >> we fully cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek the truth and promote his presumption of innocence. >> reporter: he confirmed that bryan kohberger's father flew to washington state to meet his son and made the cross-country road trip back to pennsylvania with him, his father telling him he doesn't notice anything different about his son. >> everything was ordinary, and he saw nothing unusual about him. >> reporter: police seized a white hyundai elantra at bikz's parents home in pennsylvania, the same model seen near the crime scene around the time of the attack. austin morrison says bryan

kohberger was a teaching assistant in a criminal justice class he took at washington state. >> just really quiet and very off to the side, standoffish, he sat in the class and didn't do a whole lot. >> officers told nbc news, scientists used genetic genealogy to track down the suspect. >> it broadened the search and instead of looking for one person in the database or close relatives, we're looking for second, third, fourth cousins and beyond. the team that did this work had a difficult task. >> thank you for the reporting. the suspect's back grounds in criminology is racing new questions what may have motivated the attack. joining me is mary ellen o'toole, a retired fbi profiler and. director of a forensic science program at george mason university. mary ellen, what do you make of the fact that the suspect here is a criminal justice student and what else stands out to you about his background? >> reporter: well, the fact that he is a criminal justice

student, certainly suggests that he is very interested in criminal justice, the criminal mind, that is very typical, students that go into that major, but i think it is important to note that majoring in an area like criminal justice would not have been a cause and effect. in other words, it's very doubtful that his academics would have caused him, the alleged suspect, to act out violently. in other cases, where people have planned ahead for their crimes, that violent ideation pre-existed their studying about it. so i think that that ultimately, we'll learn it will be the case here. so i think there is an interest, but i think that there was probably prior violent ideation before. >> we're just beginning to learn about him, and he doesn't appear to have a violent past. what is the likelihood of someone with no violent criminal history, committing four murders? >> well, i think that's unusual.

but i'll also say this, that the absence of a criminal record does not mean that criminal behavior is absent. it simply means that they weren't caught for what they did. so we always look for a history of domestic violence, we look for acting out against animals, other people, so the fact that we don't have a formal criminal record may not be indicative of anything other than there is still criminal behavior there but there were no arrests. >> mary ellen, one of the facts of this case that has struck a lot of people, the family of the victims included, is that it took so long to get to an arrest, in this case seven weeks. what does it tell you that it took that long to make an arrest in this case? >> this is a case that had an awful lot of physical evidence that had to be analyzed, and it had to be analyzed very carefully, because the physical evidence ultimately the dna will

be the foundation of the case. so when a case like this goes to court, goes to trial, the science will be attacked. and as a forensic scientist, you have to be able to defend what you've done in the forensic laboratory, that you followed all of the procedures, that you did it correctly, that you did it in the proper order, so i think unlike what we see on tv, where the forensic evidence is analyzed and reported back within an hour's tv program, that's not the case. they had to look through just a wide range of evidence, physical evidence, in order to extract what ultimately was dna from this offender, and that takes up time, and then it takes time to dot analysis, and then it certainly takes time to do the genealogy. >> let's talk a little bit more about that. because police say they're confident they have their guy, we don't know that a weapon has been found, but to your point, two law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation have told nbc news dna evidence

played a key role here in linking the murders to bryan kohberger. how would they obtain and analyze dna evidence in this case? >> first of all, the dna has to come from the scene. it has to be, the scene has to be the story. the offender is at the scene, the offender was close up to the victims, so that becomes really important. that's the first key piece of evidence. we have to put an offender at the scene. because that house was really occupied by six people, but there were people coming and going there all the time, the csi people had to really focus on where it's most likely that they would get offender dna, and that would have been around the beds, around the bodies, and around the bedding itself, because what they're looking for is deposits by the offender of his dna, and that can include material that came from underneath the nails of victims,

it can also include the offender's dna when an offender stabs repeatedly, even if they're protected with gloves, it's not unusual that their hand slips down on the blade, they cut themselves, and deposit blood. but they had to be very focused on where they were collecting this evidence, because it could be argued later on, well, there are hundreds of people that came into this house, you have to really focus on, yes, but this dna came from right next to the victim's body. so that becomes again a very important piece of information. csi people, forensic scientists, they're always thinking three steps ahead, what do we have to have to present in court. and that's why it's, it can be a very tedious process. >> difficult details to hear, but obviously important that we understand what led police to this ultimately getting those families justice. mary ellen o'toole, thank you for joining us. >> you're very welcome. what never before seen

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as the january 6th committee counts down the hours to the dissolution, overnight the panel released another trove of underlying evidence from the 18-month investigation into the attack on the capitol. "politico" report, quote, as the january 6th attack unfolded, the west wing aides sent horrified messages about trump's incendiary tweets and inaction. after the attack, some trump allies discussed continued efforts to derail the incoming biden administration. joining us right now kyle cheney sr., legal affairs reporter for "politico," and lisa ruben, an msnbc legal analyst some of the both of you by the way, i should mention, have been following this incredibly, and everybody follows you on twitter and you have been breaking all of this down. kyle, that was your reporting we were just reading. >> from talk about new revelations that came from the latest batch of evidence. >> sure, so i would say, i would

argue this is the most significant batch of evidence we've seen yet but this is not just what witnesses told the committee, some of which was incomplete, some of which they had foggy memories, this was primary source, contemporaneous documents, text message exchanges in realtime on or before january 6th and conveying both mindsets and real conversations they were having around everything donald trump was doing, again, in the run-up to january 6th and during the attack. so i would consider this some of the most reliable evidence the committee had, and in some ways, it tells a much more complete picture than even the committee did in this report, or in its hearings because it tells you a much more complex and detailed sense of what was going on, and so it is things like steve bannon was the one you referenced who was saying, you know, what happened to the million people showing up and surround the capitol, and the day after biden takes office, it is a nod to doing things after january 6th.

all of the examples, one of the examples of the dozens in the evidence. >> staff staffers discomfort with what is happening, including a text exchange from hope hicks to ivanka trump's chief of staff. >> all of us that didn't have jobs lined up will be perpetually unemployed. i'm so mad and upset. we all look like domestic terrorists now. >> how much of that kind of language would pick the ears of investigators when they're weighing whether to charge someone? >> well, i'm not sure that's the kind of evidence that necessarily goes into investigates' heads when decides whether to charge someone. what i think is more important, lindsey, is the sort of messages that corroborate some of the testimony that we've seen for example. for example, cassidy hutchison very famously testified about conversations about the magnetometers on the periphery of the ellipse rally. and the fact that she and others were well aware and trump was

aware that folks didn't want to come in through the magnetometers. why? because they were armed and dangerous. and the president dismissed that, saying they don't want to hurt me. we saw in this trail of documents, for example, a text exchange between hutchison and ornato that corroborates her testimony very nicely. those are the sorts of things that i think the folks at the department of justice will be interested in. the other thing that i think they'll be interested in is evidence that trump and others saw this coming. one of the other pieces of evidence that folks like kyle and i honed in on is a text exchange with mike lee, and mitchell, where mike lee is struggling to find a way to satisfy mitchell's urges to sort of expunge what they think is these allegations of fraud, but do it in any way other than executing the january 6th plan, which senator lee says would be bad for the president, and bad for the country. those sorts of documents, i think, are going to be incredibly important to the

department of justice as they move forward. >> kyle, your reporting references continued efforts discussed to derail the biden presidency. what sort of efforts do you mean? >> so this was again a reference to the steve bannon conversation where he is talking to a press assistant of his, alexander, who testified to the committee and gave texts and one of the texts january 8th, so the whole country is still reeling from what happened on the 6th and trying to make sense of it, and he's saying, we still got to turn up the heat, and she is saying this isn't over, when is donald trump going to leave the white house and he isn't going to say, bannon says he won't stay there past january 20th but what if we show up the next day and a million people surround the capitol and surround it in silence a little bit cryptic but it is the sort of the mentality that this is not done yet, we're not done. and this is happening simultaneously, when you have other groups that were sort of present on january 6th, also sort of having conversations, extremist groups that i don't know if they have any connection or relationship to bannon but are still talking about this as

ongoing, and we're not finished yet. january 6th was just sort of an inflection point but not the end and it is another example of people who are intent on biden not taking office, and didn't necessarily give up after january 6th. >> lisa, you flagged a letter that was sent by liz cheney and bennie thompson to the white house, just before the new year, announcing the conclusion of the hearings, and you say it highlights a danger here to certain witnesses. now that the republicans are taking over the majority of the house. why? >> the letter is basically saying to the white house, we have protected white house career staff so far. we have kept their identity confidential. but we can't guarantee that that will happen after the tran fer. so what we're asking you, white house, is to file these documents with the national archives, and ask for limitations on their release, or other limitations that would make it hard for people to find these witnesses' identities because we are concerned for the safety, security, and reputations of these witnesses.

and that's not an abstract concern. let me give you a particular example. there is a note that bill harrison who was an aide in the white house, sent to tony ornato and mark meadows advising them that ashley babbit was killed and that was intended to get to them so they would tell the president. there is an unnamed white house employee who testified and quoted in the report saying i saw that document on the desk. that person's identity still has not been revealed. a footnote, 531 of the report and the committee says we will not reveal that person's identity to guard against the risk of retaliation. this is not an abstract risk in the mind of the committee and they are doing what they can, the limited amount that they can, to ensure that those folks are not targeted tomorrow once the takeover begins. >> thank you both for your hard work in not only poring over the transcripts and providing the much-needed context. thank you still to come the passing of

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muscle or nerve conditions, and medications including botulinum toxins. as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. see for yourself at botoxcosmetic.com thousands of mourners are lining the streets in rome as they wait to pay their respects to pope benedict xvi. as he lies in state at saint peter's basilica. his body was moved earlier this morning and continue to lie in state until his funeral this thursday. an estimated 60,000 people are expected to attend. i want to bring in msnbc's papal analyst christopher white in rome. so christopher, thanks for being with us here. what is it like in rome now that the gates are open, to view the pope emeritus? >> so it has been a pretty somber atmosphere here on the ground all day. a steady lines into saint peter's basilica and moving

briskly. italian police were expecting about 30,000 people to flow into saint peter's today and by day's end it was 65,000. mostly people that were already in town, catholics and noncatholics alike, that decided to pay their respects to the late pope. a lot of religious folks, priests, religious sisters, but again, it was not a festive environment. very respectful. but it wasn't a particularly mournful one. but calm and collected. >> the pope emeritus, the first pope in nearly 600 years to voluntarily resign. handing over the reins to pope francis in 2013. what will his legacy be? >> i think first and foremost, his legacy will be the shock after the resignation, this was an act that helped to demystify the papacy, to help separate the office of the papacy from the person and most people, even his critics would say, it was a real act of mu humility to say physically i can't go on

anylonger to take what it needs to run the catholic church and beyond that as a real scholar and intellect, a theologian long before he came to rome as pope, and i think it is that legacy itself, many will see him a traditionalist who silenced open discussion of certain ideological ideas and others a great promoter of catholic doctrine and faith and holding firm on long held traditional beliefs by catholics. >> it is interesting, pope francis who has bucked a lot of traditions subscriber we say, will preside over the funeral. you spoke about the pope eai mare tus yesterday. what did he say? >> pope francis has been very high in his praise of his successor, gentle, kind, noble, bright intellect and particularly emphasizing the sacrifice and something to drive home and served the catholic

church and abdicated it and i think pope francis sees that as a gift to the catholic church and one he may one day continue. >> christopher white, thank you very much for your time. coming up next, we are in two of america's busiest airports where folks are saying so long to one of the craziest holiday travel seasons ever. >> i made it here just in time. if i would have left the next day, i would not have made it. because every flight was canceled. this table is on its last leg. y'all need this. you're kelly clarkson! a whole new look for a whole lot less. ahhh! -you're kelly clarkson! i am... and you need this. i love it! are we in a wayfair commercial? maybe. personal sauna. ok i need that. ahhhhh! ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪

at least three deaths out west are being blamed on atmospheric river floods in northern california. atmospheric rivers are long, narrow regions in the atmosphere like rivers in the sky that can dump down lots of rain. sacramento county was hit hardest. mandatory evacuations were issued for some residents in california's capital. widespread flooding forced the closure of a key highway there. and cell phone video captured multiple cars with water up to their windows and higher on sunday. in fact, dozens of people had to be rescued. according to the national weather service, flash flood watches in effect for several communities until further notice we're in the final stretch of the season's travel rush.

millions of americans will hid hit the roads and skies today as they head home after the holidays. it is expected to be one the most congested days on the road and at the airports travelers are hoping to avoid a disaster like last week's. hard-hit southwest airlines now says its operations are back to normal reporting that only 133 flights were canceled today. i want to bring in nbc's antonia hylton at laguardia airport in new york city. and blayne alexander at hartsfield jackson international airport in atlanta. what does it seem like at laguardia, what is the scene like at laguardia? >> it is pretty calm here and everyone i have spoken to today is grateful for that, because many of the people who are heading out of, you know, new years day celebrations, back to their different corners of the country, they dealt with some of the challenges that you just described, and i talked to a young guy who is living in kansas, has family here, and he says he waited around at the airport back home for about 12 hours, annual was stuck, and finally made the very last flight that was able to make it out. he was just so grateful that he

was able to get that precious time with family. but you know, a lot of other people weren't as lucky. and so people here are grateful that it seems to be over. but they definitely have their eye on southwest right now. everyone seems to be aware of the investigation, you know, grateful to be in most cases flying other airlines today, but also very curious to see what ends up happening, and what kind of accountability there may be for the airlines and what kind of changes they ultimately make, lindsey. >> what about you at har hartsfield-jackson, what you are hear requesting? >> a day and night different from last week, and last week, i was in the same spot talking to frustrated passengers, watching the southwest line growing by the hour. and today it is completely different. it is the typical busy day at the world's busiest airport. and the book end of a busy travel holiday season and air travel this season has been up 14% over what we saw last year, so no matter where you go, you are going to expect some clouds. make sure you budget time for

that. when it comes to the backlog of southwest airline, very few cancellations here, across the board with the airlines. i will say we talked with a bunch of people about basically their feelings of southwest from last week to today and while some people say they will never book again, others say they really don't blame the airline. they're not going to cancel their southwest trips in the future, it's not enough to draw them away from the airline permanently. some of them citing the fact that they can check their bags for free, saying that is just too good of a convenience to pass up, despite the inconveniences that they've gone through this holiday season. so it really does kind of, it is a mixed bag when it comes to that. >> and what is southwest now saying? also, are you hearing the same from passenger that blayne alexander told us about? >> i'm hearing about the same. i think i met some grumpier folks than she did today who were saying essentially, i'm going to think twice, before i book a southwest flight. the ceo of southwest has apologized, essentially said, you know, that the airline can't apologize enough to their

customers, and they have committed over and over again, to make sure that people are made whole and by that i mean, they are reimbursed for flights, the bags that are still lost, they're found and then returned to the right people. but there is this reputational issue on the line and that's what a lot of folks are talking about today, take a listen to one quick conversation i had. >> do you know what happened with southwest, as with what has happened in southwest, has that changed your interest with the airline to book with them in the future? >> probably, because i think they had issues earlier when covid was worse, i remember that southwest was having a lot of issues, so i think overall, throughout the years, it kind of steered us away from that. >> reporter: people had been hearing all of these horror stories of not just the cancellations, and you know, families missing out on their holidays, not getting to celebrate with their loved ones for christmas, but also people just waiting forever to reach customer service, finding it impossible to get airline employees, to actually honor their customer service policies, and requirements.

and that's going to be a major part of the next phase of this investigation, from the federal government, you know, is to make sure that southwest follows through on their own policies, and then of course, all of the questions right now about their technology, their operations, and their scheduling systems, and what they do to update those as well, but it is really that customer relations piece, and even people who don't regularly fly southwest are really aware here of what has happened and they're going to be keeping an eye on it lindsey. >> thank you so much. next hour, if you're hoping to leave covid in 2022, there's a new variant we need to tell you about. >> plus, will he or won't he? represent-elect george santos set to be sworn in tomorrow but some members of his own party are suggesting he reconsider. are suggesting he reconsider e*tg trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are.

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good to be with you. i'm lindsey reiser in for hallie jackson in new york city. kevin mccarthy predicting a good day tomorrow as republicans prepare to take control of the house. it is still not clear whether he will be the man leading them. over the weekend, kevin mccarthy moved into the speaker's suite, but when he spoke to reporters today, he stopped short of confirming that he had the votes needed to win the job. >> kevin mccarthy, do you have the votes for