in the meantime, my administration will use that authority as the supreme court has required. until congress passes the funds, a comprehensive immigration plan to fix the system completely, my administration is going to work to make things better at the border using tools we have available to us now. today, my administration is taking several steps to stiffen enforcement for those who try to come without a legal right to stay and to put in place a faster process to decide a claim of asylum. someone says i'm coming because i'm escaping oppression. there has to be a way to determine that quicker for people who are credibly seeking protection from persecution. the secretary of homeland security will detail these actions shortly after i finish. here is one significant step we are taking. over the summer, we saw a huge spike in the number of venezuelans traveling through

mexico and attempting to enter the united states without going through our legal processes. we responded by using and ensuring there are two safe and lawful ways for someone leaving the country to come to america. that was one of the reasons you were proposing. first, if they are seeking asylum, they can use an app on their phone called cbpone. that's to spell it out. not the number 1. to schedule an appointment at a port of entry and make their asylum claim there without crossing the border unlawfully and have a decision determined by an asylum officer, do they qualify? second, in october we worked with the mexican government to launch a new parole program. there's another program -- you know it but the public may not. it immediately showed results by

reducing the number of people crossing the border unlawfully. the way this parole program works, one must have a lawful sponsor here in the united states who agrees to sponsor you to get here. then that person has to go -- >> good day, in washington, i'm andrea mitchell. as you can see, the president just announcing a new immigration policy for people nicaragua and venezuela to try to replace what he says is a patchwork quilt that is not working for anyone. flanked, of course, by the vice president. before his trip to the border since becoming president scheduled for next week. the main act in washington where house republican leader kevin mccarthy is hoping seven times is a charm after a night spend offering big concessions to the never kevins at the risk of i'll nature ing alienating s

original supporters. this after the only vote mccarthy won yesterday. it was on a disputed motion to adjourn for the night after six failed votes to become the next speaker. at this hour, lawmakers are headed back to the house floor facing the same dilemma. they are doing the prayer, then the pledge of allegiance. they will gavel down. democrats are completely united behind hakeem jeffries. mccarthy has not been able to cobble together the 218 votes he needs to win. today, suggestions from some of his original backers he has to show some progress in today's vote or they may start considering alternative candidates. garrett haake joins me now. kevin mccarthy needs to show his allies within the republican conference that have supported him on the first six votes that he is winning over some of his critics, some of the 20. some of the concessions may impact his current supporters. >> reporter: yeah, i think that's right. mccarthy's probably not going to

be able to show support in terms of vote totals today. he does seem to be getting breathing room. some of the members in the group of 20, never kevin folks, have been telling reporters they think it's progress. it's not just coming from mccarthy's camp. it's coming from that group as well. one of the new members said that he thought there was progress. chip roy, who has been negotiating on some of the more meaty procedual issues says he thinks there's progress. boebert said there's no circumstance until which she would vote for kevin mccarthy. matt gaetz has been similarly dug in. mccarthy doesn't need all of them. he needs all but four or five, depending what he can make the math do with absences, present votes, vote for other members and so forth. we will see as this vote gets under way. >> let's go to the floor.

>> a quorum is not present. the chair will count for a quorum. >> this takes -- a quorum call, you know that takes at least 15 minutes, could take longer if they hold things up. let's talk some more about the process of the big concessions that have been going on. overnight, there were a lot of huddles. more this morning. one of the big concessions was letting two supe pacs agree that the leadership pac, the speaker's money would not go towards insurgent incumbents. keeping a lot of challengers, incumbent challengers who don't follow the leadership at bay. >> reporter: more to the point, andrea, was this agreement that in open seats -- safe republican house seats, the leadership

super pac wouldn't get involved in selecting candidates for those races. what that could potentially mean is that future congresses could have more and more members coming from the far right as opposed to the kind of establishment leadership-backed candidates that mccarthy tried to put in place. i'm thinking of arizona where you had the leadership pac get very involved early in ciscomani. they thought he could be a future star. in terms of this agreement, they may not be able to do that. that's one of the things that somebody like chip roy has been looking for as this insurgent group tries to grow their ranks in future congresses. it's a mrit. >> kyle: -- political agreement on the margins. does it perhaps show a little bit of trust building that mccarthy very badly needs to do with this faction? perhaps.

>> let's talk about rules changes, that could rob the speaker of a lot of power going forward. >> reporter: yeah. there's two in particular that are worth talking about. the first is this idea of the motion to vacate. a vote of no confidence in the speaker. we have seen the threshold to call for such a vote go down, down, down during this negotiating process. mccarthy's offer is to have that at one. that means you might see every day of a republican controlled congress open with a prayer, a pledge and a motion to vacate. if there's one member who decides they want to be difficult on that day. it makes whip counting, attendance, in a congress that no longer has proxy voting, so much more important for basic control of the floor and getting things done. the other big change is on the rules committee. we don't talk about the rules committee a ton. every action that goes to the floor has to go through the rules committee. he proposed giving more seats on the rules committee to freedom

caucus members or to their allies. one of their big sticking points is to allow more open rules. bringing stuff to the rule and allowing amendments on that. this cedes power to the body, it makes it more of a free-for-all. there were democrats who wanted to see more open rules in the last congress. here you have freedom caucus members potentially forcing mccarthy's hand on it. it makes it harder for the speaker to control the agenda. that may be what is required for there to be a speaker in this republican-controlled congress. >> it's interesting, garrett. that's exactly what caused some people -- some democrats to go against nancy pelosi, both in '19 and '21. slotkin comes to mind. stay with me. let's bring in steve kornacki,

yamiche alcindor and former florida congressman david jolly. steve, to you. you have been following each vote on the floor. we shouldn't underplay the importance of some of these rules concessions and the motion to vacate. this gives bigger leverage to kevin mccarthy. >> that's the question when this vote starts we expect within the hour here. this is the list from the sixth ballot held yesterday. this has been the list throughout all of the ballots of the republicans who have been opposing kevin mccarthy. there's one extra yesterday. >> steve, hang on a second. i think the quorum call is ending. let's go to the floor and see what procedural motion we may see next. you can see the clerk, steve,

talking probably to the parliamentarian and probably figuring out what to do. we saw a lot of disputes over the motion to adjourn with the clerk and a lot of democrats objecting. that was a 216-214 vote. they thought they had won it. then she extended the time, which does happen frequently, where the votes are held open until the leader decides, the speaker. of course, there's no speaker. there's no leader. the clerks are on their own. with the help of the parliamentarians, who are very good at all of this. we heard the gavel. shall we hear the clerk? she's looking for guidance. it's a tough spot to put these clerks in. steve, as we watch this -- hang with me as we try to do the play by play and carry all of this live and see which way they are going. >> the chair would like to clarify that as part of the

clerk's role during the organization of the house, the clerk has the responsibility to preserve order and decorum in the chamber. prior to the election of a speaker. to that end, the chair would like to remind members elect of the following, members elect should address any remarks through the chair and not to other members elect in the second person. members elect should refrain from engaging in personalities toward other members elect. the chair appreciates the cooperation of members elect in respecting and upholding order and decorum in the house. thank you. [ applause ] >> you see applause for the

warning from the clerk that they have to behave on the floor, which is something the speaker usually manages. but there's no speaker. there's kevin mccarthy now. >> madam clerk, i rise to nominate kevin mccarthy for speaker of the house. [ applause ] >> the gentleman is recognized. >> thank you, madam clerk. there's been a lot of talk about history over the last few days. in 1856 was the last time it took longer than the votes we're having right now to find a speaker of the house. 133 over two months. without question, the issues divide us today are much less severe than they were in 1856.

in fact, there's far more that unite us than divide us, regardless of our political party or ideology. the issues today are over a few rules and personalities. while the issues at that time were about slavery and whether the value of a man who looks like me was 60% or 100% of a human being. it was a long and drawnout, painful process. but it needed to happen. in the end, nathaniel banks won, by the slimmest of margins. you know, margins don't matter when your policy is on the right side of history. [ applause ] on that day, long ago, the good guys won. on that day, long ago, the abolitionists won. on that day, the people who believe in freedom and self-determination won.

the leading republican nominee won then, and the leading republican nominee will win again today. [ applause ] since then, our nation has made a lot of progress. that includes families like mine. my family has gone from slave to the floor of the united states house of representatives, being the first member of his freshman class to speak in a series of five generations. my family has gone from slave to right here since 1856. my father and mother, born in the 1940s and 1950s in the jim crow south, and my dad lived across the street from a school he couldn't go to because he was black. he started a business with one truck, one trailer, no excuses with the help of his wife. and now his son stands here on

the precipice of taking back the majority for the american people and taking this nation in the right direction. [ applause ] i'm a freshman. but i've heard a lot of d.c. politicians tell me how broken d.c. is. i don't need d.c. politicians to tell me how broken d.c. is. the american people have told us how broken d.c. is by giving republicans the majority so we can fix this mess. [ applause ] we will counter the socialist movement with a conservative movement of access and opportunity. we will stand on the right side

of history again. we will end the growth of government, and we will stop 87,000 new irs agents from picking through your pocketbooks. we will secure our energy independence. we will ban the sale of petroleum from our strategic reserves to china. we will establish a bipartisan committee to keep our eye on the ball in china. we will address the crisis at the border that's killing americans by the day and improve our safety of our nation and our dignity for those who come here in search of a better life. but not yet. we're still stuck at the starting block. the american people have told us by putting a republican majority here they want republicans to lead. they want a government that works and doesn't embarrass them. we are failing on both missions. that must change today. it will change -- [ applause ] benjamin franklin said, we must

hang together or most assuredly hang separate. we are stuck in a malaise, an impasse. we will stay here. we will not be able to fight the real conservative fights until we find a way to come together and fight that mission together. yesterday, we experienced very briefly our first win. it was a small victory. [ applause ] it was a small victory, but didn't it feel good? we have been working hard for that victory. and there are much more to come. i learned the phrase, it's been my motto first, mission first and people always. right now the people are left out.

right now, they don't have a congress to speak for them. at the highest level of government. right now, every individual in this room can concede the rounds we have taken is not what we told our constituents we would do. we told them that we would fight the opioid crisis. for perspective, there's a hallowed monument my father took me to. my father is a vietnam veteran. this monument is the length of 500 feet. nearly two football fields. it's ten feet high. the letters are a half inch. 58,000 names for a war that lasted years. according to the cdc, in 2021, we lost almost twice as many people as we lost in vietnam to overdoses. we have lost 600 americans to

overdoses since tuesday. we are talking about the debt rising. you can't count how many dollars we spent of our great grandchildren's money since tuesday. the work we promised the american people we would do, we are welching on that process. i have hope we will come together unified and put the right person in leadership. i'm standing here today because i'm seventh to stand up and support kevin mccarthy for speaker. he earned my trust. the first time we met was in his office under the watchful gaze of a frederick douglass painting. he told me in that office on the eve of the 2019 state of the union address that there's nothing that could be said or done during that address that embarrassed him more than the fact that when the democrat side

stood up, they would look more like the united states of america than we did. he set out not to compromise our values, not to compromise our ideology, but to work harder to make sure that more people with diverse perspectives and different lived experiences could be here. the next election, he won 14 seats up from 199. all the seats he won were with minorities, women and veterans. the very next cycle, this next cycle, he won and me and my buddy helped double the number of black republicans in the congress. [ applause ] we have a long way to go, but we have come so far. we have come so far. we can't quit. you don't fire a guy who is winning. when you look at the governor's

mansions and legislatures we lost across the country just this past cycle, when you look at the gains that kevin mccarthy has made uphill getting the gavel as a minority leader in half the time, the mainstream media likes to laude the leadership of nancy pelosi. kevin mccarthy won the gavel back in half the time uphill. we want to talk about people who can win? i'm a lions fan. i'm well acquainted with snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. we need to learn how to win. we need to learn how to take a victory. kevin mccarthy's leadership, he has given us victories on keeping costs down, with winning the majority back. i'm so proud to be a part of majority making class. he earned my trust. hopefully, he will earn your trust. he has 90% of us in the

conference. when is the last time anyone had 90% approval ratings? kevin mccarthy, you are going to see up there, has over 90% approval ratings. if you want to make history, let's do it the right way. we need a conservative fighter to help this country get back on the right track. we need to elect leader mccarthy as speaker of the house. i'm ready to make history. i know you are. i'm excited to work with each and every single one of you. we have a job to do. at the direction of the republican conference, i advance the name of kevin mccarthy as speaker of the house for the 118th congress. [ cheers and applause ] >> for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise?

>> madam clerk, i rise to nominate hakeem jeffries of new york for speaker of this house. [ applause ] >> the gentleman is recognized. >> madam clerk, i speak on behalf of the democratic caucus when i say that there is no victory in adjourning without doing the business of the people. [ cheers and applause ]

madam clerk, house democrats are united behind a champion of expanding and protecting the right to vote. since the beginning of 2021, 21 state legislatures have passed 42 restrictive voting laws. hakeem has stood up against voter suppression and the new jim crow era every step of the way. [ applause ] as we begin -- as we begin a new congress, we need a leader who believes this strengthening democracy, who understands that to cast a vote is a sacred responsibility that should be afforded to the many, not the privilege for the select few. hakeem understands that in order

for us to become a more perfect union, we can't deny the voices of individuals in a democratic process. madam clerk, today we affirm our support of the john lewis voting rights advancement act and nominate -- [ applause ] madam clerk, that's why i am directed by the democratic caucus to advance the name of hakeem jeffries from new york as speaker. [ applause ] >> for what purpose does the gentleman from north carolina rise? >> madam clerk, i rise to place

in nomination the name of byron donalds of florida. [ applause ] >> the gentleman is recognized. >> i want to begin by saying how much i have anticipated the gentleman from michigan's arrival in this house, not in the senate, not in the old unchanging senate, but in the house where we make change. yesterday, we could have elected the first black speaker of the united states house of representatives. [ applause ] [ chanting hakeem ] >> hear me clearly. hear me clearly.

had the cascade of votes begun, it would have extended to every member of this body. it could begin today. last night, i sat within feet of mr. donalds as the tweet of another member elect appeared on the screen. that member elect wrote and sent out to america that byron donalds is a prop. i spent a good bit of time with mr. donalds, especially lately. he ain't no prop. [ applause ]

and if he were a prop, he wouldn't be sitting where he is sitting. this is the tired, old, grotesquely racist rhetoric that we have seen far too long. [ applause ] today, a member elect quote tweeted a fox news story that incorrectly reported that i said that if i don't prevail on the question before the house, i will resign. that member -- that member elect quote tweeted that incorrect story for his own political purposes. after the story had been corrected and the actual statement contradicting that report had been provided. this is the old trafficking in lies from washington that the

american people know far too well. by the way, i'm not leaving. [ applause ] kevin mccarthy released to the public on new year's eve a document entitled, restoring the people's house and ending business as usual. to his great credit, mr. mccarthy made a statement of huge significance to the country. the nominal leader of a major party acknowledged publically that this institution is broken. and he committed to make change to fix it. [ applause ] so let me help my colleagues in the minority understand. we are doing the people's

business. [ applause ] that's what these three days have been about. three days. we are committed to make change to this institution that has lost its way. it is epitomized in the $1.7 trillion omnibus rammed through this institution two weeks ago. you see, ladies and gentlemen, i came to fix this broken system. america has seen that problem for a very long time, too. the commitment to change it is new. the genesis of the prospect of changing it emerges from this

moment. and those since june that led at long last to the new year's eve statement of mr. mccarthy and to these three days on the floor. america needs men and women of courage to do something new in congress so that congress can serve the american people. [ applause ] the lord said, behold, i do a new thing. we need more byron donaldses. i know byron. he is not a prop. he is a man of personal conviction. he arrived at his convictions through authentic and genuine

life experience. people ask me, what is the end game? how does this end? the answer to this question is that this is a dynamic process. all of the decisions on this floor result from the coming together of minds one way or another. this is the people's business. we will resolve the people's business. [ applause ] and when we do, we will go to the mat for the american people. [ applause ]

because we will be led by people of conviction, like the gentleman from florida, byron donalds. i yield back. [ applause ] >> the reading clerk will call the roll. >> this will be the seventh vote. this is the third day that they have been doing this. again, it's byron donalds nominated as well as mccarthy on the republican side, and, of

course, hakeem jeffries who has been getting united support. let's listen. >> aguilar. jeffries. alford. mccarthy. allen. mccarthy. allred. jeffries. amodei. mccarthy. armstrong. mccarthy. arrington. mccarthy. auchincloss. jeffries. babin. mccarthy. bacon. mccarthy.

baird. mccarthy. balderson. mccarthy. balint. jeffries. banks. mccarthy. barr. mccarthy. barragan. barragan. bean of florida. mccarthy. beatty. jeffries. bentz. mccarthy. bera. jeffries. bergman. mccarthy.

beyer. jeffries. bice. mccarthy. biggs. donalds. bilirakis. mccarthy. bishop of georgia. jeffries. bishop of north carolina. donalds. blumenauer. jeffries. blunt rochester. jeffries. boebert. donalds. bonamici. jeffries. bost. mccarthy.

bowman. jeffries. boyle of pennsylvania. jeffries. brecheen. donalds. brown. jeffries. brownley. jeffries. buchanan. mccarthy. buck. mccarthy. bucshon. mccarthy. budzinski. jeffries. burchett. burchett. burgess. mccarthy.

burlison. mccarthy. bush. jeffries. calvert. mccarthy. cammack. mccarthy. caraveo. jeffries. carbajal. jeffries. cardenis. jeffries. carey. mccarthy. carl. mccarthy. carson. jeffries. carter of georgia. mccarthy. carter of louisiana.

jeffries. carter of texas. carter of texas. mccarthy. cartwright. jeffries. casar. jeffries. case. jeffries. casten. jeffries. castor of florida. jeffries. castro of texas. jeffries. chavez-deremer. jeffries.

cherfilus-mccormick. jeffries. chu. jeffries. cicilline. jeffries. ciscomani. mccarthy. clark massachusetts. jeffries. clarke of new york. jeffries. cleaver. jeffries. cline. mccarthy. cloud. donalds. clyburn. jeffries. clyde. donalds. cohen. >> we have five who voted for donalds. that means that on this roll

call at least, mccarthy will not most likely get the speaker's gavel. garrett haake, let's catch up on a couple of people who have moved into what would be the speaker's office. roy donalds and scott perry -- do we know anything about what's up? >> reporter: not the speaker's office. the minute this vote got underway, several of the members of the anti-mccarthy sanction high tailed it off the floor. they are not talking. they have all ended up in another office that's being used for some of the negotiations. downstairs, about 100 yards from where i'm standing right now. some of the mccarthy allies like french hill, other republican members who have been trying to midwife these negotiations between mccarthy and his opponents. it's noteworthy for the first time in as many days action we

have been covering this, none are talking. they are tight lipped. no comments. we're going to keep talking. this is a situation in which the absence of new information suggests to me a certain amount of activity here. we knew going into this vote, kevin mccarthy told me on the way to the floor, told reporters, no expectation the vote totals will change. the fact people are having closed-door meetings and clamming up in public is typically a signal something is actually noteworthy afoot. we have more work to do to figure out what. >> i know you are all over this. thank you, so much, garrett haake. steve kornacki, let's catch up with the count. this is the seventh. something is beginning to shift. certainly with the agenda vote yesterday. a small victory. the first victory. they won 216-214 last night, a signal that maybe there was give

among mccarthy supporters and some of the 20 who are refusing to go along. >> real interesting to hear what garrett is describing, the potential activity. very curious to see what, if anything, shakes out there. as you can see, it's holding. the folks who voted against mccarthy on previous ballots, how are they voting as they go through this roll call? you can see they all continue to vote against mccarthy, for donalds. alphabet alphabetically, donalds the next name, he might not cast a vote. curious to hear if he has been voting for himself, will he continue? look down the list. these are names to come alphabetically. is there going to be anybody on this ballot who switches over to mccarthy? it's academic in the sense he's not settled in the seventh ballot. this will go to an eighth. would there be a budge to

m mccarthy? ken buck of colorado who had been sending public signals that maybe he was through voting for mccarthy, he did vote for mccarthy. look at this list. we will see what is to come from it. you mention that motion to adjourn last night that got them out last night. it was a win for mccarthy. if some kind of a deal with some of these renegade faction does emerge, there were still four republicans who voted against that motion to adjourn last night. that was andy biggs, lauren boebert, eli crane and matt gaetz. even if mccarthy strikes a deal, four is the maximum number of republicans he can afford voting for somebody else. there were four who wouldn't even vote to adjourn last night. you see, they make the top of the list. there are other names on this

list like bob good who has been sending signals he doesn't think he could ever support kevin mccarthy. again, even if there is some kind of a deal that moves a significant number of the republicans into mccarthy's camp, anything more than four voting for a non-mccarthy candidate, he still won't have the votes. >> he has a big cliff to climb, especially matt gaetz and others, as you said, they will never vote for mccarthy. i want to bring in yamiche alcindor with me here. we have been talking about what kind of concessions are being made here. some are big, like the motion to vacate. that's what brought down john boehner. now it has been down to one -- he conceded it's one that can bring up a motion, as garrett was saying earlier, this could be the third motion after the pledge and the prayer each day, a motion to vacate. something that nancy pelosi got

rid of after seeing what happened to her predecessor john boehner. >> it is fascinating to watch kevin mccarthy appear to lose the seventh ballot here because as you said, he made those concessions. he talked about the fact he was going to go and talk to these conservative members who didn't want to be part of the people who were supporting him initially. i think it's something to say that kevin mccarthy last night was telling reporters, i crawl before i walk, i walk before i run. saying that this is a mountain that he is climbing. he might be on his knees at the beginning but he is hoping to be on his feet and at the top of the mountain. it's hard to understand how he gets to the number where he doesn't lose four republicans. this seems personal. i have been asking sources, republicans all this week, what is really at the heart of this? is it policy? is it rules change? is it personal animosity? my reporting suggests people just don't trust kevin mccarthy for the people who are staunch opponents. that's a really, really hard thing for kevin mccarthy to deal with.

i think it's fascinating to see how this turns out. the fact that he is making concessions, that he is continuing to say, i will give you more and more, that's not working, it doesn't bode well for him. >> david jolly joining us as well, former republican congress member. i've been told matt gaetz stood up and voted for donald trump. that gives you a sense of the flavor of some of the rebels. trump had shown his own weakness by not being able to put kevin mccarthy over the top on day one or day two. he seemed to be ignored, especially by lauren boebert, in one of her floor speeches last night. david jolly, what is your read on your former republican colleagues and what this all means in terms of the concessions that have already been made and how that will affect mccarthy or any other future speaker in this caucus? >> not just the concessions on the rules that you have talked about, but kevin mccarthy is pulling out all the stops, having donald trump weigh in,

having his allies at fox news, one of the largest pacs that he is affiliated with make concessions. he unleashed all the pressure on these members. they are not moving. this is an interesting vote right now. mccarthy needs to show movement here or we're going to ask the question, is he really telling the truth when he says progress is being made? the theme of the last 18 hours was, we're making progress. he needs to demonstrate that on this vote. it was telling that they didn't offer a motion to adjourn right away. if they really needed more time to talk, he could have had cooperation among the current 20 to say, let's keep talking, let's adjourn and keep talking. instead, they did go to this vote. there's a lot on the line for mccarthy. maybe he shows progress. maybe he doesn't. to yamiche's point, he can roll back some of the 20 who are voting against him. it doesn't matter if he can't roll back the five never kevins. in this lane, i think the never

kevins are going to start to have to share more with the country that it's not just about the rules. in fact, they don't trust kevin. yamiche is right. the issue is trust. they don't trust kevin mccarthy. ken buck alluded to that. even if you change the rules, we don't trust kevin mccarthy to not waive those rules down the line. kevin mccarthy has a long way to go. maybe he chips away a little bit here. if he is not shipping away at the five to six true hard no never kevins, there's no pathway for kevin mccarthy. i think he is going to have to withdraw. it's a question of timing. >> if he were to withdraw and they do go to an alternate candidate, a consensus candidate, even if such a person exists, would that candidate be constrained by the deals mccarthy offered? does that become the new baseline? >> it's hard for -- if a deal is just done within the republican caucus, which i think would have

to be right now. we're not at the break glass scenario. most of the concessions would have to stay on the table. here is the most critical thing if there's another candidate. the way it has to happen is the following. it cannot just be that kevin mccarthy withdraws and there's no candidate and they spend two weeks fighting over the candidate is. what kevin mccarthy can do is what boehner did for paul ryan, which is the deal that he could strike today, kevin mccarthy, is to work out with all of these rebels, who is the candidate that gets to 218 so that if i, kevin mccarthy, am going to withdraw, we move to a vote as a uniied caucus and anoint that speaker. i don't know there's somebody that can get 218. that's a real deal that would >> it is such a dilemma for the republican caucus. they look weak. the former president looks weak. let's bring in chief white house correspondent kristen welker.

donald trump got a vote from matt gaetz. >> it tells you all you need to know about the various different threads that we are watching as this extraordinary moment unfolds. here you have matt gaetz, mccarthy detractor, saying he supports donald trump underscoring that trump still has a wide swath of support among the republican base. and yet this moment also high lying the fact that that support maybe limited, maybe starting to wane a little bit. he's called for republicans to get behind mccarthy. he wants to be focused on the fact that republicans have won the house, have taken back the house. we know he's been reaching out directly to some of these republicans, including lauren boebert, who publicly said she still will not back mccarthy. so you're seeing these conflicting threads as it relates to the former president who announced he's running for

reelection. and it comes against the backdrop of the current commander-in-chief trying to make that final decision about whether he will announce. >> and to steve kornacki in new york at the big board as we go through we're in the end of the h's now. now in the j's. no sign of anybody moving here. >> no, this the only movement is matt gaetz switching his vote from donald to trump. they can call out any name they the. as you had from the reporting there, donald had left the floor for some kind of conversations. when donalds, the candidate who has been normal the nated by the renegade group here, his name was called, he did not vote. at the end of this roll call, they will come back around and. i do think the one interesting thing, just based on garrett saying there's folks talking

now, if donalds is among those talking and he comes back from those talks and his name is called, will he vote for himself again? he's been voting for himself in the previous ballots or does he send a signal when this vote nears its end and his name is called again. that's one thing to look for. but otherwise, you can see bob good from virginia, ghoster from arizona continuing to vote against kevin mccarthy. there are still a number of names to come here. i think garrett said that scott perry might be part of those conversations. chip roy, off the floor. we'll see if the conversations are ongoing by the time their names are called and see if there's any switch or even to something like present that would indicate that there's something that came out of the talks that could change things going forward. but yes, right now, everybody who has voted who had previously voted against mccarthy is still voting against mccarthy. so far, flost one who has previously been voting for mccarthy who has broken away from him. that's the other thing.

ken buck from colorado was sending signals he might be done for voing for mccarthy, but he did vote for him on this ballot. they are working their way through here no indication any of those folks are budging. >> thanks to steve. i want to bring in ashley parker, senior national political correspondent at "the washington post" this is a display of dysfunction the likes of which we have not seen in a long time. we have never seen this. none of us were alive 100 years ago, but we have never seen the house in such disarare. >> that's exactly right. one thing that has been so striking to me that you mentioned before has been the former president's weakness this this. and even matt gaetz voting for

trump, that's not actually what former president trump says he wants. he wants people to support mccarthy. but instead among these hard liners you have all but two were election deniers. 15 of 20 received trump support in their primaries. many of them have already endorsed him in 2024. so it also shows a level of disawe pray and weakness in the former president, who is still the de facto leader of the really party of his control over the party. >> garrett haake, up on the hill with all the talk going on behind the scenes, do you get the feeling as the week comes to a close they don't want this to go into the weekend? that they want something to happen preferably today? >> that depends on who the they is. all kinds of motivations at play here. i'm sure mccarthy doesn't want

to continue running the strategy of getting punched in the tas until they can lockdown the votes. they would love to lock up a longer adjournment to do the behind the scenes work. a semifunctional majority of democrats and mccarthy opponents arerfectly happy to let the would-be speaker keep getting beaten up on national television. maybe for the weekend, but almost certainly not tomorrow. democrats might even make the political point tomorrow on the anniversary of january 6th that some of the other guests were making about election deniers once again holding up the results of an election on january 6th. so there's rhetorical value to keeping this process going. i don't think mccarthy will be lucky enough to get a longer break to finish whipping votes. >> garrett haake, thank you. thanks to all. while this is going on, the

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