>> and he continued to hold out. we thought they were going to adjourn. that did not happen. and here we are in the middle of this vote.

and it appears, though obviously it is not done yet. that kevin mccarthy may in fact have the votes. steve, can you give us a bit of a history lesson here. compare this to any other time in modern history. >> any other time in modern history there is none because,, the last time the speaker's vote went past one ballot was 1823, but, we will come right back to this, but just to put in some perspective, what the history of this is, you are looking at here, this is every speakers race in history, that's gone past one ballot. we put this together earlier, only 11 ballots, this is the 15th ballot, so right here in history is where the speakers race ranks, this is the fifth longest speakers race in the history of the country, and you can see the four that were longer than this were all pre civil war, this is going to finish well shy of a record of 133 minutes, if it does indeed finish here, 15 ballots will be the fifth longest in american history, and again we haven't seen this go past a first

ballot since back in 1923. >> there were moments of this week where that hundred 33 number looked like it might have been in reach, in fact when the 14th vote failed, they talked about adjourning till monday, stephanie, you are saying what is gonna happen, what exactly is going to happen, now something interesting has happened, because it seemed like the deal making to the extent that there was some, was going on with matt gates and we watched kevin mccarthy after walking up to matt gates where he was sitting, and confronting him, and moving together, and holding him by the arms, and they walked and kevin mccarthy changed his vote, it does see that mccarthy continues to be the ringleader on this one. >> mccarthy or matt gates? >> sorry, matt gates, seems to be the leader on this one but it may not batter because the other vote changed. >> the vote may not matter now but if you think about how this meant just moments ago, a democratic congressman tested me and i can't believe i'm saying this but matt gates has

played this brilliantly. >> yep, this is his 15 minutes of fame, his 15th vote of fame, we're about to hear what matt gates does, does he vote president or does he not. >> gates? >> president. >> over and over again at this point. mccarthy voting presents doesn't change anything now. in fact, now mccarthy, gates voting president doesn't change anything. steve kornacki, but now mccarthy has a cushion. >> yes, basically mccarthy would have to lose people who have been voting for him on a previous ballot, that is the only thing that changes right now, the gates present vote, that actually means that if everybody else where the votes, there would be 430 total votes, and again, a majority there would be 2:16, and like we have been saying, mccarthy already has, he comes into this ballot,

with 260 votes, that's what he got in the last one that's what he showed he could get, so, in all of these present votes so far, it has lowered the threshold down to 2:16, if both good, if this indeed is a package deal here, and we will see if good and rosendale both vote present as well, then there will be 433, the threshold to be 2:15, then mccarthy would clear it with 2:16. but as long as nobody who is already been voting for mccarthy switches their vote, it does not matter what good or rosendale do right now. mccarthy, on the 15th ballot has finally gotten what he needs to be elected house speaker. and here, is good and virginia. president, president for good in virginia. so there you go. it looks like we will see what rosendale does, but that vote from good, that present vote, five present votes, that lowers the threshold to 2:15, and again, mccarthy and showed in the last ballots that he can get to 16 so now he definitely has that cushion, no reason to

think that kevin mccarthy is not about to become speaker of the house. >> jeffries? grainger? >> ali vitali are you with us? >> yep. >> kevin mccarthy getting what he needs would mean that matt gates got what he wanted. what was left for him? head of the armed services committee? it wasn't even like that to keep negotiating? >> we don't know that he got that, i guess we will see in the coming days. but you know what this means for kevin mccarthy? is that he probably got the votes, and he got what he wants. and now it might be a question of be careful what you wish for because he gave away so much, what these negotiation is, they took so much power away from the speaker, that it had been centralized by people like speaker pelosi, and others over the years, and taking it away from the speaker, and stripping it out and putting it back through the rank and file and specifically allowing the freedom caucus to permeate several key committees?

that was a points, that was the whole point of these negotiations, people like chip roy who were leaders for the freedom caucus in this, scott, perry others they also said that the old point was to make sure that they had rank and file with power, and we have talked about, this when you have margins that are as close as this congress is. just like they were last congress. for members. five members. it means that everybody sort of gets to make it parallel. everyone gets to be a joe manchin. everyone opinions matters that much more now in the house of representatives. and if you listen to chip roy and others talk about the way that they were able to negotiate a motion to vacate, to better fire the speaker, they call that accountability measures for kevin mccarthy, so i think the next question that we have to be asking are, okay, kevin mccarthy is the speaker, we are getting a sense at what cost? and i think the other question is, do we think that he is the speaker for the full next two years? because you look at people like john boehner, like paul ryan, they lived under the threat of this motion to vacates the

entire time that they were speaker. ultimately, it was part of the reason why they could not persist, leaders of this conference. the conference has shifted even further to the right since then, premade in trump's image and empowered by that. but certainly, he will get the deal that kevin mccarthy and his deputies have made. and continuously look back at that, and wonder, if they haven't given certain things away, you know, at various points in the future, would it have looked different? i think that this is such a seminal moment in the mccarthy speakership legacy if and when we officially get there. >> let's bring david into this conversation, david, you have been with us, basically every single minute of these last 15 votes. what is your take at this hour? here we are, january 7th. >> yeah, obviously a lot of things have been said, mccarthy is pulling this out. i would say, intriguingly, he's gonna pull this out. with the minority of the house, that actually hasn't been

discussed. but because of the members voting present, he will not achieve 218 votes. which is a majority of the house. but under the rules, he will receive a majority of those who are naming a candidates, but obviously the storyline will be what did he promise matt gaetz? i mean he really had his moment here where he rolled kevin mccarthy. but we also saw 21 other members in the last week, roll kevin mccarthy. i also think one thing that is not been talked about. stephanie. and this is really important, there is a group of members we have not talked about. it's the 200 that stopped working with mccarthy all week. and you could view that through the lens of loyalty. of members that stuck with their leader. but if we are going to lay some criticism on mccarthy for getting rolled, i would suggest that all 200 of those members that stuck with him got rolled as well. because they allowed themselves to do so. we already know that the rules package now makes the freedom caucus chairman more powerful than the speaker in the upcoming two years session of congress. we also know that the guard

rails of this congress have now been defined. and one of the most concerning things that he gave away, that i think that we are not yet talking about, is the appointment of what is called a church committee, that we saw in the 70s in the senate. allowing house republicans to go right at the deep state and try to tear down federal agencies, investigate them, and suggest to the american people that the federal government is out to get you. it's almost like formalizing an insurrection committee if you will. i realize that is in hyperbole. but consider what will happen. because we know this coalition within the party exists. that they want to take down the federal governments. mccarthy set up a special committee to allow house republicans to investigate the federal government. and what they will do is they will tell their base on fox news that the government is coming for you. the government is spying on you, that the government wants to take your freedom, your guns,

everything else. and it is the most powerful narrative right now in today's republican party. it may be the most powerful concession that the freedom caucus, and they got to get tonight to support him. >> which is an interesting point, because the church committee, i want to bring in michael steele to this conversation. it was formally called the senate select committee, with governments information with respect to government activities. but before kevin mccarthy had to give everything up, or whatever we are going to learn the next few hours that he gave up to get a bunch of these guys to vote president, his agenda, his entire legislative agenda was all investigations anyway. this is what the republicans, after not performing as well as they would have in the midterm elections decided that they were putting forth for the american people to see in terms of their ability to govern. >> well, yeah, you use the word govern there my friend. and that is not a part of anything that we had witnessed over the last four days. and certainly not what animates this vote tonight. this idea that these

republicans are prepared to govern. i think the way that they had just laid it out is exactly how it will play out. the freedom caucus, and i mention this earlier, in this process. has for some time, in its evolution through boehner, through ryan. tried to find a way to create two things. respect, and leverage. and in the course of that, they've achieved it. this evening. and the proof is in the polling, the proof is in the rules, the proof is in the chairmanship. the proof is in the agenda that the 118th congress is going to pursue. already, your beginning to hear, some can guessing among some democrats, about why for

example the biden administration did not push to get a debt deal done before this congress came into session, because now that looks even more difficult particular given that one of the things that kevin mccarthy gave up was essentially any protection to get that done. and so, it will be a free-for-all. on the debt ceiling, and, you know look, these republicans. have been saying, the government is banned, and biden is awful. but they are gonna own this debt conversation. because they've been on record now, exclusively stating what their intent was, and has been. and so, if it does come to, god forbid, a shutdown of the government, the american people have only one place to look. and that is right there on our screen right now.

who gave away the house, so that he could take a seat. >> michael steele, why would they want to do that? that is what i want to understand, right? when you talk to the c-suite, 4 to 500 ceos, those who are republican leading. they like to close their ears, and look the other way, when we talk about the biden administration's and all the stuff the freedom caucus tries to do, and look the other way. but if we actually see something go down, if we see true problems around our debt ceiling, and it will be disastrous for our economy, why would republicans want to do that? >> well, i think with respect to, those republicans in those seats, we just don't think it will happen, the problem stephanie is you well know that there have been too many examples where it has happened. there's been too many examples where the republicans, we go back to ted cruz and the filibuster and all the other times where it has created a problem for the economy and for the economics, and i don't understand, it it makes no sense to me and it is not good governance, it is exactly what you are talking about, a little bit earlier and that is that

these republicans said they wanted to do. and from 2016, he construct the administrative state. and that means that everything that touches on government. they think it is all bad. even as they serve, and that south, same government. maybe they can start by just not coming to work. that may help. but as we have seen, that is not a solution either. so here we are. >> then michael, could the and my biden administration have held off on addressing the debt ceiling? because now the clock has moved forward, and whatever happens, it is the republicans problem. >> yeah, i think that definitely, to that point, there was some political calculation there. i think that the setup going into 2023, is perfectly aligned for the democrats right now. who will be laying out their agenda. in the senate. and in the executive branch, the white house. and the house is going to have

to take all of that in. and yeah, they will pick and choose. what they are going to fight over. but at the end of the day, on the big stuff like the debt ceiling, and any other major legislative piece that needs to get passed? it is going to fall on these republicans because of the processes that were made. so this one coming speaker will find himself in the unenviable position of having to backtrack on some of the very things that he said that he would do. and that is going to create a lot of problems in, are we talking about vacating the chair eight or ten months from now? we will see. >> have we got dug around? doug, you and i've been talking for a while, thank you for being with us tonight, you have seen this movie before, with the character. and this whole thing that michael is talking about. could 15 ballots to win the speakership have wounded kevin mccarthy and the republican congress so much at this point that they are not going to get it undone?

>> the factions that you have within the party as well, you're not talking about a whole lot getting done legislative this year. the big win for republican, so to speak, and this is that they can say that they have ended the biden legislative agenda that is their accomplishment,, what they get through legislatively, whatever passes the house, which is going to be very difficult to do, isn't going to go anywhere in the senate, joe biden is not going to sign, it's so there's not gonna be a lot of legislative accomplishments from the house republicans, they are claiming victory and stopping biden, that's the first and foremost here. >> getting legislative things done is part of the agenda, the legislative agenda, and there are policy things on the agenda. you worked with air canter, and the policy wonks of the republican party, people who had a philosophy around things that they want to get done, that is absence this group of

-- ? >> yeah, that's actually not a new phenomena, the majority leader had an initiative, a series of bills on things like pd active care, and what we call making life work, and at one point, one member said to another, i swear this is true, he said, why are we doing all of these things to help people? and really that's what you're supposed to be in public service, for and so, this predates donald trump, in predates this congress, it certainly is gone into overdrive over the past four, days but certainly the past four years before that. >> so doug, would you agree that the next move out of republicans will be to pivot, all investigations, we could potentially be expecting subpoenas of the biden administration, moving the new cycle, conservative media will be all about investigating the administration, is that the place that we are headed after this having nothing to do with policy? >> i think that is gonna be a big part of, it republicans have been very clear that this is going to be an investigative congress, the czech imbalances what they are calling, it

obviously, they're going into overdrive on this, and look, this is one of the natural things that happens when you switch over parties, democrats want to do investigate, donald trump pretty harshly, not a big surprise, republicans certainly did the same thing with barack obama. a lot of that is natural, we will have to see if republicans overstep on this or not. certainly it depends on who the lead investigators are gonna be, depending on who's leading which, not just, committee with some committee. >> david, i just got a note from court that has me thinking, how is mitch mcconnell going to interact with this dynamic? >> i think something is often misunderstood by voters that surprised me -- as a new member, is you assume the house and senate really do communicate well and work together. they really don't. mitch mcconnell will have republicans and the agenda in the minority to the best he can. and, honestly, the house bills will be more aggressive than most senate republicans will want to have to carry. to doug's point, you can look -- at the next two years, the

agenda of republicans, three ways in the house. they will pass messaging bills. they want to draw a con trashed with democrats going into 2024, the labor policy, they will get into every investigation they can think of, too. from fauci, to hunter biden, to joe biden to dhs to afghanistan. the ready to launch. but then what they have to do, stephanie, those two things really into the budget. they have to keep the government opened by passing an annual budget, the annual appropriations cycle. we have to keep the government open. and they have to either raise the debt limit or wave enforcement of the debt limit. and i promise you that will only happen by working with democrats. and particularly, by working with democrats in the senate. so what does that do for kevin mccarthy? certainly his caucus will not get his back on that. it will fracture. i actually think it will have the effect on kevin mccarthy of having him be more vocally leading, perhaps the impeachment of joe biden. to hold his own caucus together.

kevin mccarthy will have to be seen as the leader taken down joe biden. because otherwise he will just look simply way too weak to survive as the speaker the next two years. >> will they get republican elected two years from now? >> probably not. there are a couple of theories in elections that we all know. turnout models, first persuasion models, negative partisanship is often stronger at motivating voters. it's not as though they're trying to convince the 1% of the country to come their way in two years. they're just going to try to turn out their voters, that's, it that's what they're about, that's what the investigations are about, and that's what surviving the debt limit, the optics around the debt limit will be about. >> let's listen in to the clerk, we're coming up to matt rosendale, republican of montana who voted for andy biggs last time. we're listening for rosendale, the republican to see if he votes present or for someone else. or for mccarthy. >> rosendale?

rosendale. ross. >> that was interesting, steve. no vote from rosendale. >> no vote. we've seen it before. it's possible he is in the chamber and will answer when they called a second time. remember, the overall answer when they are called on, they come back to those who didn't. this vote, of all the 14 we had before this one, almost everyone answered the first time they've been called. i believe rosendale's only the second member not to answer the call in this vote. the first was gonzález, the democrat from texas. again, from the standpoint of mccarthy status here, whether rosendale votes or not, whether he votes present, it doesn't matter. everything is holding for mccarthy. the magic number here is, he's going to be at or above the magic number. >> rosendale can't hurt him, he

already voted against in the last. time. >> it's an interesting dynamic. ali was talking about the day possibility that the six, probably the votes that they agreed upon themselves, to all vote present. and if rosendale, perhaps, he may just be, he may vote present. i'm wondering about him in gonzales. one or both of them if they just decide to leave, if that's also a possibility at this late hour when the outcome seems pretty certain at this point. because, again, on previous votes we have seen a half a doesn't, a dozen or more that, that have been answered when called. so far on this when there have only been to, but that is the case for. but we are now within about 75 or so votes of the final vote being casted. we're getting near the bottom of this list. but yeah, five of the six, mccarthy, interestingly enough by the way, mccarthy is going to win the speakership it appears, with 216 votes. that is the exact same number

that nancy pelosi won the speakership with two years ago. she also won with 216 votes, her majority was 222 seats. so is the republican. >> i'm walking. i'm a ten minute walk. >> let's bring in congresswoman sheila jackson lee. i think she's with us. congresswoman, are you with us? >> i am, good to be with you. >> the whole country wants to know, what did you say to matt gaetz. ? that was not something i was expected to happen. you, in the midst of all that mayhem. including when someone had to be held back at the pier from grabbing adam, or striking him. you showed up. and i was thinking to myself, god, i wish i had audio. you are with us. can you tell us what this conversation was? >> first of all, anyway you can find the solution to uphold the constitution and create some respect for this institution, i will try to do. matt gaetz and i have served on the judiciary committee.

we do a lot were gauging and disagreeing or agreeing. basically, i secured at that time, the information that it was over. that what you will hear next is that kevin mccarthy has been elected speaker of the house. and so with that in mind -- and that does not mean there was exact language exchange. but there was an exchange that gave the understanding that the fight had been waged. the spearhead been placed in the sand. the fight had been made. the point had been made. and now it looks as if we are moving to a conclusion. which is what i said -- we should not have adjourned. we should've gone on -- and we have gone, and i think we're gonna see something in a few minutes. >> we are very close to, that we have been watching matt gates and his body language all night, in the interaction with,

you which i will ask them to play again. you two were sort of smiling and laughing with each. other you talked about the fact that you too had done things together. right now there are lot of people, a lot of republicans and americans who are not happy with the way matt gates has conducted himself. you know him. he's going to be a lot more powerful in this congress than he was in the last one. what do we need to know about matt gaetz? >> i'm gonna treat him just like i did before. he's a member of congress, he has no more power than i have. he certainly does not have the standing that i will give to our leader, jeffries. having worked on the judiciary committee, we've supported similar bills. we've talked about bills in the future in the 118th congress. but i have no qualms with going over to matt gates and, saying what's going on? i can see the discourse and disagreement that's going on. i knew that he was not a person that bends easily, if you will, and he had more than a point to make.

and he was going to continue to make. did i disagree? of course. who do i want to be speaker? hakeem jeffries. a man of tenacious this, integrity, and leadership. but that does not stop me from crossing the aisle. we're gonna have to do a lot of crossing the aisle. i'm allowed to do a lot of fighting, because i'm an have to fight for principles i believe in. and ali, you know me, i've stood my ground on many things for the people of america, and the american values of democracy. but tonight, i wanted to know, and i thought it was important that we continue and not adjourn. and we need to go forward. >> why do you think kevin mccarthy did not have the votes the 14 time around? what changed? >> there are a lot of things that go into someone giving you their vote, i think you heard the opposition speak a lot about trust. a lot about relationships. all i can say to you is that in this place it is an intimate bowl of relationships. there were none there for some of these individuals, and there were no trust.

there and he got highly emotional. and when this leadership a sense, how will i be treated? i'm speaking about the person that we're in the opposition. i think there came a final reckoning by a number of the members there. some people said there was a call that came in. i don't have any firsthand knowledge of that but i think one could say that the persons, many of them i know, and the judiciary committee has appropriate these may numbers. they made their point. they made their point, and the conditions of which there voting are their conditions, and about anyone else's condition. >> congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this evening, we know you have a lot to get to. >> thank you so much for having me. >> steve kornacki talked about the fact they were very close to the end now. remember, hakeem jeffries -- unless somebody, we have not missed one vote. we make it back. hakeem jeffries is going to get 212 votes. mccarthy should get 216 --

it should be 215 under this? >> 216 is what he should have. he's lost no. buddy. one we're down to the last dozen votes. you have five present votes. the other, one met rosendale here just did not answer when his name was called. there are two members of the house who did not answer when the name was called. you're getting down to the final members. the last name you're gonna hear is ryan slinky from montana. and then what they're gonna do is call out gonzalez, the democrat from texas. he did not answer the first time around. and then they're gonna call it, rosendale he did not call up the first time around. see if they both the second time around. that will be it with 216 votes is what we expect this mccarthy number to be when all is said and done he will be elected speaker. >> something that we thought was going to happen several days ago, 15 votes ago. this on the 15th vote might actually do it. i want to know if simone sanders is still around. simone, you've been talking to.

some people what are you hearing? >> i'm hearing that members are expecting that once this vote closes -- >> these are the last vote. >> he will be elected speaker. i'm also being told by democratic members they've been informed that republicans actually do not have the votes to pass a rule package tonight, and they are -- >> simone, excuse me for a second. let's listen in for what looks like we are done with the voting -- [applause] [applause]

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>> the reading clerk will now call the names of the members elect who did not answer the first call of the role. [muted] >> gonzalez. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> rosendale? >> present. >> present.

>> and matt rosendale, he had voted for andy biggs in the 14th vote. it didn't matter whether he did it again or not, but he voted present this time. he wasn't gonna do anything to hurt mccarthy at this point. because mccarthy has the votes to win. >> smiling ear to ear. he got the bottom line that he was looking for. the question now will be at what cost? let's bring kurt into this conversation. kurt, kevin mccarthy, it took 15 tries and now he has got it. what is your take? >> well, you're looking at stephanie, the weakest speaker. perhaps in united states history. the fact that someone could be held hostage by just a few amount of people within this caucus. does not bode well for getting things done in the future. and i think we are going to look back on this night, months from now, when the full faith

and credit, united states is on the line. when the debt ceiling is hanging on the balance. and we are dangerous, defaulting on our current obligations. >> i'm so sorry, i'm a jump in. we're gonna continue this in the second. the clerk is grabbing the gavel. let us listen in. >> those are all the tellers. they are trouble checking their work. because they don't want to get this one wrong? we are all watching it, and putting these numbers up ourselves. but the reason it says at the bottom, mccarthy appears to win the speakership. is because until they gavel it in it is not done. let's listen to what the clerk has to say. the clerk appears to be waiting on getting some final tallies from the tellers in front of her who have been collecting all these votes. they quadruple check this stuff every time something changes.

they go back, and i think they have to make sure that everybody's numbers are in order. >> they need a kornacki. >> they need a steve kornacki, that is right. although steve, they have been doing remarkable work all week. they are running the show right? there is usually a speaker in charge and they have a rules park ridge that they have to charge. so they're going back to parliamentary role. >> and for the first time, since you and i are covering politics. c-span has their cameras wherever they want in the room. normally those cameras are actually being operated by government employees, and the rules are strict. but without a speaker, it is why we have actually had all of these moments that we are seeing. >> you're seeing these intimate roam moments right? >> where we all wish we had reading skills. >> obviously, the clerk is

taking their time about this, this is a moment, a historical moment, it is 15 ballots. they do not want to get anything wrong. [applause] and that houses waiting for this decision to be made, the decision in which the clerk will announce the number of votes that kevin mccarthy got. the number of votes that jeffries got. the number of people who voted present. and that mccarthy is voted speaker of the house. but she is not gonna say it's a second before she is ready. she's come along a lot of pressure this week, every time she's gone, it's a certain member of the party who wanted it gone another way. and she is a very patient, patient women. >> cheryl johnson under pressure, which he hasn't blinked. is ali with us? [muted] >> feels like any

second here, they are going to gavel a decision. and you will see her. she is not, normally she has her hand close to the gavel, are holding it, and she's not ready to do that right now. so it is clear that somebody is waiting for something. >> here is what i know. -- >> they agree in the tallies that the total number of votes cast is 428. of which the honorable kevin mccarthy, of the state of kevin mccarthy, of the state of california has received 216. [applause]

[applause] >> the honorable hakeem jeffries of the state of new york, has received 212. [applause] with six recorded as present. therefore, the honorable kevin mccarthy of the state of california, have received a majority of the votes cast. is duly elected speaker of the house of representatives! [applause] [applause]

[crowd chanting] >> the clerk appoints the following committee to escort the speaker-elect to the chair. the gentleman from louisiana, mr. scalise, the gentleman from new york, mr. jeffries, the gentleman from minnesota, mr. emer. the general woman from massachusetts, miss clark, the gentlewoman from new york, miss -- , the gentleman from california, mr. aguilar. the gentleman from louisiana, mr. johnson. the gentleman from california, mr. lieu. the gentlewoman from michigan,

miss mccray. the gentlewoman from washington, miss healthy. the gentleman from north carolina, mr. hudson. the gentleman from south carolina, mr. clyburn. the gentleman from alabama, mr. palmer. the gentleman from colorado, mr. magoo's. the gentlewoman from oklahoma, mrs. bryce. the gentleman from texas, miss escobar. the gentlewoman from indiana, miss hulsey. the gentlewoman from illinois, miss underwood. the gentleman from oklahoma, mr. cole. the gentle men from minnesota, mr. phillips. the gentleman from north carolina, mister henry. the gentleman from michigan, mr. kelly. the gentleman from pennsylvania,

mr. perry. the gentleman from california, miss barbara lee. the gentleman from louisiana, mr. graves. the gentlewoman from florida, miss wasserman schultz. the gentleman from arkansas, mister hill. the gentleman from rhode island, mr. soleimani. the gentleman from texas, mr. roy. the gentleman from virginia, miss brand burger. the gentleman from florida, mr. donalds. the gentleman from california, miss jacobs. the gentleman from north carolina, mr. bishop. the gentlewoman from texas, miss crockett. and the members of the california delegation. miss pelosi. miss waters. mr. calvert. mr. as she. miss lofgren. mr. sherman. mr. napoleana. mr. thompson. mister schiff. miss sanchez. mr. issa.

mr. costa. miss max louis. mr. mcclintock. miss shoe. mr. garamendi. mr. bera. miss brownley. mr. cardenas. mr. hoffman. mr. -- . mr. peters. mr. wylie. mr. swalwell. mr. to cano. mr. vargas. mr. dishone.

mrs. torres. mr. valadao. miss barragan. mr. carbajal. mr. korea. mr. connolly. mr. panetta. mr. gomez. mr. harder. mr. levin. miss porter. mr. my garcia. mrs. kim. mr. open lte. mrs. feel. mr. doula. mister robert garcia. mr. calm like a dove. mr. keighley. mr. mullin. the committee will retire from the chamber to escort the speaker elect to the chair. [inaudible]

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>> let's bring simone sanders back into this conversation. simone, what will happen next? >> so steff, what is going to happen next. as peter-elect, mccarthy, will come in. he will be part of the speaker then he will likely he will likely speak for a time. previously we were told that people in our and are standing that congress would follow the rules package, and adopt the rules. because right now there are no rules governing congress. and frankly, there's no member of congress until they get sworn in. the republicans do not have the votes as they have the rules package. so they've sent a statement, around, noting that the plan to adjourn after the members of congress are sworn in. and do rules on monday. this is significant. for all the talk about how kevin mccarthy finally eats it, and the smile he has on his face. we know what he had to do to get to this moment. we are unsure about what is going to happen and congress

having the debt ceiling fight. but what we do know is that this whole, long week, republicans do not have the votes of their own caucus to pass a rules package. so people thought this week was crazy, if the folks that tonight was a rollercoaster. or you know what show. buckle up. because you're gonna have votes like this. once a month, for the next two years. so long as kevin mccarthy is the speaker of the caucus. where he has empowered the never kevins. aka, the extremists. who hold hostage and do of their jobs. >> holy cow. let's bring tim miller into this conversation. and tim, one of the things that we have heard over and over this week from those who were never kevins is that they didn't trust him. he went back on his word. could he go back on his word in the next 48 hours since he has now got the votes. but they haven't agreed on a rules package? >> i think, conceivably, what happens with the rules package. you saw one republican rep

already, gonzalez from texas, he's going to roll against the rules package. the problem is, the republicans in the middle might vote against the rules package. maybe get it done. mike and new york, and one of the new representatives. but there just aren't a lot of moderate republicans. so i think he probably will have the votes for the rules package. i think the bigger question then comes, the next time that there is any sort of controversial vote, the six guys did not vote for him, there's a lot of applause for him and he didn't even get to 2:18! he still only got 216 votes because of six votes for president. so he did the bare minimum, of getting his colleagues to not vote against him, the next time it goes to a controversial vote. it will start with the six that voted present, he's full of marjorie taylor greene. you still have been -- and go down the list of the far-right extreme members that could scuttle anything. and so, i think that rules see of the rules package. i think it is still open to

possibility. that something in the middle, voted against it. and i think that the bigger threats come when they actually need to do something proactive in the coming weeks and months. >> yeah, or even a weekly basis, ali, and matt gates, one of his oilier coats in the week. was that kevin mccarthy's gonna have to step aside, or he's gonna be a speaker in a straight jacket, and he very much is gonna be a speaker in a straight jacket, i think they have been on an extremely short leash, it is possible that they will have a little bit of runway here if the republicans don't actually have to pass anything. the debt ceiling, that's a problem for the summer.

the responsible adult did the business of funding ukraine in some of these other issues. some of that they have little runway on. kevin has maybe a few weeks and months to shore up his conference. that's the best positive spin you can put on it. but eventually whether it's ukraine's, that settlement, or something else, he's gonna have to actually pass something that there is controversy about in the conference. and there's no evidence that he can get there when he can't even get 218 vote for himself. >> i think he is absolutely right. sometimes when folks have -- and packages. it's very weedy. and things that just don't make sense the american people. the rules here are very important. this whole conversation about taking one person to saying we want to get rid of the speaker, that's the motion they take, that would be in the roles. how many folks get to sit on these various committees, what are people bring to the four? the rules are very important matter very much.

what did kevin mccarthy give up so that he could be the speaker of the house? why him? at this, point this is not about the american people at -- a number of republican members of congress have come to the floor instead over the last week -- it seems as though this has been about kevin mccarthy and his ambitions over all these years. we cannot underestimate or overstate the fact that this is all happening -- on the second anniversary of january 6th. the members in that chamber who sided with the insurrectionists, there are members in that chamber who were outside of the capitol that day as a part of not just a rarely, but the insurrectionists were at the capitol. this is who's governing the united states of america or not governing because you have to be able to pass things the government. >> and the point we're talking about earlier is even before, we don't know and it may come up in the next few hours what kevin mccarthy had to give to

get those six present vote, or at least former present votes. what we do know is before he had to give anything up he had an agenda for the next two years for this republican conference that had no legislative priorities other than investigations on it. >> yet what republicans land on leading into the midterms was inflation -- >> there's no inflation plan that kevin mccarthy. had >> crime. >> no plan for that either. >> we're not hearing about any of that. the autopsy from the mid term, was all about, the american people, said please time to reach across the aisle and get some work done. we're tired of noise about noise. how is that gnat being processed? it doesn't sound like anyone is listening to that autopsy what am i missing? >> well, we know with the track record is for autopsies. so i don't think that really mattered [laughter] too much. that was not the take away that i think this -- these republicans took from

this election. they were given power back and they did not lay out for the country and agenda that they could rally the country behind. this is a party without a platform, for heaven's sake. you're going to have a rules, fight maybe. but then, again okay. it doesn't really matter. because the rules are stacked against the operation of the house. i mean, he's not going to be able to govern. it's going to be hard for kevin to have any of his members reach across the aisle on critical pieces of legislation as we've already discussed. that he is going to have to do -- and it's gonna be hard for him to do that. i took note of the fact that, you know, just five or six short months ago marjorie taylor greene was arlette kevin 's backside about how he was not fit to be speaker. and she was one of the first in

line to go run up and give him a hug. because she got everything she wanted and then some. so she is now a powerful member of that caucus, as are a host of others. matt gates pleaded expertly. so what we saw was not a chess game for the opportunity to put forth an agenda. it was a political chess game to capture a seat. this is literally what we saw was a modern-day version of the game of thrones. played out without the dragons. although some may argue there were some dragon there in the house. the reality is, this is what the party has set itself up for. and now what do you do? what do you do next week when the president of the united states calls and says, so what are we gonna do about the debt? what is your plan? kevin's already made the promise that he is not going to help on this issue. these guys want to shut the government down because they

need that -- they think that's a political advantage for them to run against democrats in 2024. we'll see. i'm all about the spirit of the moment. congratulations mister speaker. now, the fun part. governing. >> it's john allen with us? i think we just lost him. >> the point you've been making in that michael's been hinting at is that we've had showdowns about the debt before there's always been warning about a few to fall on to -- the state of the united states suffers and prices plummet, and interest rates go up. we now have an economy on edge this is a really dangerous time for this game to be played. >> ali, it's extraordinary. because just this morning when we got the jobs report, you saw economists across the board, saying wow. the fed might actually be threatening this very difficult needle. because while there are still

strong dropped out there, we're starting to see wage increases slow, which should help inflation. but if suddenly we get cute with the debt ceiling, we're in a very -- >> every of the time we've gotten to about the debt ceiling, interest rates have been close to zero. people say whatever happens, interest rates go up 2%, that's meaningful to people right now. >> yes, they never have the time we've gotten close to, what you have it gotten people like you do right now on the far right that aren't afraid of us blowing up the system. >> here's what didn't take five days and 15 ballots, there is a statement from the president of the united states congratulating kevin mccarthy on his election as speaker of the house, the president says that the american people expect their leaders to govern in a way that puts their needs above all, else and that's what we need to do now. i am prepared to work with republicans, when i, can and voters make clear that they expect republicans to be prepared to work with me as well, now that the leadership

of the house of representatives have been decided, it is time for that process to begin, it's a much longer letter, but that is a congratulation from the president who called, this embarrassing. earlier this week. he said was going on with the republicans and their inability to elect the speaker is embarrassing. >> ali, you've got to take a minute. i could say, look, it was a democratic congressman who said to me within the last hour, matt gaetz played this brilliantly. i think was michael who said a moment ago, marjorie taylor greene -- these are people who regularly fan dangerous rhetoric. >> space laser lady. hold on a second -- >> conspiracy theories. hugely powerful people in the conference. >> let's listen. we're seeing the new speaker of the house select committee today. he's probably gonna go up to the podium. [applause] and deliver a speech. >> -- catherine clark behind. i'm steve scalise, hakeem jeffries. they're making it official. [applause]

>> the next thing we're about to see, he'll be getting the gavel from hakeem jeffries, physically. [applause] it's 12:56 a. m., january 7th. i would say most notable right, now ali, the amount of kids who appear to be -- wide awake. >> i'm not sure if there is serving coca-cola's and ice cream, but those kids are wide awake. >> it's quite a night. we both expected. it you and i were talking before. we both started on tv -- thinking it was not going to be this long. the republicans were fully confident that this would be done on the 14th ballot, and it did not. [applause]

>> madam clerk. -- distinguished members of the house democratic caucus and the house republican conference. it's my high honor and distinct privilege to finally be able to welcome all of you to the 118 congress. [applause] [applause] >> let me just begin by thanking my good friend, pete aguilar for his very generous words of introduction and placing my name into nomination a total of nine times.

[applause] >> and i also want to thank my other colleagues from the democratic caucus for your generous words and nomination, as well, jim clyburn, catherine clark, ted lieu. dean phillips, -- and veronica escobar. i also want to think my colleagues, my friends in the house democratic caucus for your perseverance, for your strength. for your friendship, for your unanimity of purpose. and for your unanimous support [applause]

i simply want to say that that showing up strain is not for any one particular individual it will be a showing of strength throughout the 118th congress unanimity of purpose on behalf of the american people. [applause] >> before i proceed any further, let me begin by acknowledging the distinguished gentlelady, from the great state of california. the iconic, the heroic, the legendary speaker emerita, nancy pelosi! [applause]

>> and without question in my mind, speaker emerita pelosi will go down in history as the greatest speaker of all-time! [applause] throughout her time, [applause] throughout her time, though in congress she has been a legendary legislator. a fabulous facilitator, and a no nonsense negotiator. we know that nancy pelosi is a woman of faith. a loving wife, a mother a five, a grandmother of nine. a defender of democracy. a voice for the voiceless, and a powerful champion for the children, the climate, charles cynthia, california, the caucus, the congress, and the constitution. thank you madam speaker for all

that you have done! it is an honor to stand on your broad shoulders! [applause] as well, as well as the shoulders of the great steny ona, and the great jim clyburn. two consequential leaders in their own right. [applause] now, scripture says in galations, let us now become weary and doing good. for at the proper time, we will reap the harvest if we do not give up. over the last two years, house democrats in partnership with president biden. and our colleagues in the senate. have been hard at work, on

behalf of the american people. getting big things done. we passed the american rescue plan. saved the economy from a deep recession. put shots in arms, money and pockets, and kids back in school. we pass the infrastructure investment and jobs act. to create millions of good, paying jobs, fix our crumbling bridges, roads, airports. a water system, or mass transportation systems. and ensure high-speed internet access and every single community. [applause] we've has gotten slave day legislation, for the first time in 30 years that will save lives and make our communities safer. we passed the chips and science act, to bring domestic jobs back home to the united states

of america, and ensure that our workforce has the skills to succeed in the 21st century economy. and we passed the inflation reduction act to strike a dramatic blow against the climate crisis, set our planted on a sustainable trajectory forward. lower energy cross, strengthen the affordable care act, lower the [inaudible] and drive down the price of lifesaving prescription drugs for millions of americans! it was one of the most consequential congresses in american history. president biden gets the job done, and the d and democrats stand for deliver! [applause] so over the next two years, [crowd chanting] over the next two years.

[crowd chanting] as we begin this 118th congress. let us continue to fight for lower costs. let's continue to fight in this congress. for better paying jobs. let's continue to fight in this congress for safer communities, let us continue to fight in this congress to defend democracy. let's continue to fight in this congress to put, and protect, the public interest. let's continue to fight in this congress for economic opportunity in every, single zip code and let us continue to fight in this congress for reproductive freedom! [applause] because, [applause] , as democrats we do believe in a country for everyone. [crowd chanting] we do believe in a country for everyone.

a country that provides for the poor, works for working families, make sense for the middle class. sense out for senior citizens, innovates in the intercity. strength in suburban communities, helps out the heartland, and revitalize is the role of america. we believe in a country where liberty and justice for all, equal protection under the law. free and fair elections, and yes we believe in a country with a peaceful transfer of power! [applause] [applause] we believe that in america, our diversity is a strength.

it is not a weakness. an economic strength, a competitive strength, a cultural strength. our diversity is a strength. it is not a weakness. we are a gorgeous mosaic of people from throughout the world. as john lewis would sometimes remind us on this floor. we may have come over on different ships. but we are all in the same boat than. we are whites, we are black, we are latina, we are asian, we are native american. we are christian, we are jewish, we are muslim, we are a hindu. we are religious, we are secular, we are gay, we are straight, we are young, we are older, we are women, we are men, we are citizens, we are dreamers, out of many, we are one! that is what makes america a great country!

and no matter what kind of haters that are trying to divide us, we are not going to let anyone take that away from us. not now, not ever! this is the united states. of america. a land of opportunity. the fact that i am able to stand up here today, is another data point. in that narrative. i was born in a brooklyn hospital where i was raised in a working class neighborhood. and, crown heights grew up in the cornerstone baptist church, started off in a cradle role department. some hal survived the violence of a crack cocaine pandemic, and wound up here in the united states congress as the highest ranking democrat in the house of representatives! america truly is the land of opportunity. governments of the people, by the people, and for the people. so on this first day. let us commit to the american dream, the dream that promises that if you work hard, and play by the rules. you should buy able to do

provide a comfortable living for yourself and for your family. educate your children, purchase a home. and one day retire with grace. and dignity. let us commit on this first day to lift up the american dream for every single person in this nation! now, i recognize that this is a moment of transition. as we transition from one congress to the next. from one majority to the next. from a year of accomplishments, a year of accomplishments to a year of ambiguity, a moment of transition. the american people understandably after the events of this week recognize that the congress is at a fork in the road. and are asking the question, what direction will we choose?

on this thursday, i do not pretend to answer that question. on behalf of my colleagues on the other side. of the aisle. but we do extend our hand of partnership, to you, and want to make clear that we and stand, and intent, to try to find common ground. whenever and wherever possible on behalf of the american people! [applause] not as democrats, not as republicans, not as independents, but as americans! [applause] but i also want a plan that we will never compromise our principles. house democrats will always put american values over autocracy.

benevolence over bigotry. the constitution over the cult. democracy over demagogues. economic opportunity over extremism.

freedom, over fascism. governing over gaslighting. hopefulness, over hatred. inclusion, over isolation. just, this over judicial overreach. knowledge over kangaroo courts. liberty over limitation. maturity over mar-a-lago. normalcy over negativity. opportunity, over obstruction. people over politics. quality of life issues, over qanon. reason over racism. substance over slander. triumph over tyranny. understanding over ugliness. voting rights over voter suppression. working families over the well connected. genial over xenophobia. yes we can! or you can do it.

and jealous -- over zero some -- we will always do the right thing by the american people! so let us not grow weary of doing that. for the american people who reap the benefit of the harvest that we do not give up. god bless you! god bless the house! and god bless the united states of america! [applause] [applause] [crowd chanting] it is now mice them responsibility, to hand over the peoples gavel. to a son of bakersfield. a former small business owner.

a proud product of a firefighter's highs hold. the gentleman from the great state of california, and the next speaker of the 118th congress, kevin mccarthy! [applause] [applause] >> that was easy, huh?

i never thought we would get up here. thank you, minority leader jeffries. , i have to warn you, two years ago i got 100 percent of the vote for my conference. [laughter] >> there's somebody else i want to think, the gentle lady who served as our presiding officer this week, our clerk, cheryl johnson. thank you.

my father always told me, it is not how you start, it's how you finish. and now we need to finish strong for the american people. [applause] i'm the son of a fireman, and a grandchild of immigrants can rise to the highest position in the most important legislative body in our country. and if my colleague, hakeem jeffries, with his life story can rise to lead his party, then opportunity and democracy still thrive in america.

the leader jeffrey, is there will be times that we agree. and many times that we will defer, i promise our debates will be passionate, but they will never be personal, that is my commitment to you. and now, the hard work begins. what we do here today, next week, next month, next year will set the tone for everything that follows, tonight, i want to talk directly to the american people, as speaker of the house, my

ultimate responsibility is not to my party, my conference, or even our congress, my responsibility, our responsibility is to our country. two months ago, you voted for a new direction for our country. you embrace our commitment to america, and now we are going to keep our commitment to you. it is a commitment for an economy that is strong, where we can fill up the tank of gas and feed your family, where paychecks grow and not shrink. it is a commitment for a nation that is safe, where communities are protected, and law

enforcement is respected, and criminals are prosecuted. [applause] >> a commitment for the future that is built on freedom where children come first and are taught to dream big. because, in america, dreams can still come true. a commitment for a government that is held accountable. where americans get the answers they want, need and deserve. a system that's built on checks and balances. it's time for us to be a check and provide some balance to the presidents policies. [applause]

>> there is nothing more important than making it possible for american families to live and enjoy the lives they deserve. that is why we commit to stop wasteful washington spending, to lower the price of groceries, gas, cars, housing. and stop the rising national debt. [applause] >> we pledged to cut the regulatory burden. lower energy costs for families and create good paying jobs for workers by unleashing reliable, abundant american made energy. [applause] >> and though the night is late

but when we come back, our very first bill will repeal the funding for 87,000 new -- [applause] >> you see? we will leave government should be to help you, not go after you. we are going to pass the bills to fix the nations challenges. from wide open southern borders, to -- america last energy policies, so woke indoctrination in our school. [applause] >> we'll also address america's long term challenges.

the debt and the rise of the chinese communist party. congress must speak with one voice on both of these issues. this is why we will and wasteful washington center. from now on, if the federal bureaucrat wants to spend it, they will come before us to defend it. [applause] >> as for the chinese communist party, we will create a bipartisan select committee on china. to investigate how to bring back the hundreds of thousands of jobs that went to china and then we will win this economic competition. [applause] >> speaking of committees, we will hold the swamp accountable.

from the withdrawal of afghanistan, to the origins of covid, to the weaponization of the fbi. [applause] >> let me be very clear, we will use the power of the purse and the power of the subpoena to get the job done. [applause] >> this is something we should all agree upon. we will stand up and speak out

for the backbone of our economy. the hardworking tax fair. [applause] >> it's nighttime here in washington. but in some ways, it's also like a new beginning. a fresh start. my friends, this chamber is now fully open for all americans to visit. [applause] >> i want to give all americans a personal invitation, you are

welcome to see this body at work. no longer were the doors be closed. but the debates will be open for you to witnessed what happens in the peoples house. [applause] >> from the committee rooms to this for, we commit to pursue the truth passionately. and embrace debate. no more one sided inquiries, competing ideas will be put to the test in public. so that the best ideas when. [applause] >> but we also pledged to bring congress to the people. because answers have not and

will not always been found in washington. that's why one of our very first hearings will be held on the southern border. [applause] >> no more ignoring a crisis we for safety and sovereignty. we must secure our border. [applause] >> we must get america back on track. now, on a personal note to my

family. here at home. to judy, megan connor, emily, my brother, mark, monica, zak. and, yes, my mom, bert. i am where i am because you are who you are. [applause] >> you could stand. [applause] >> i would also like to thank my constituents in california central valley. yes, especially my hometown of bakersfield. i don't know if you're familiar with music, but as --

how many of you that sit and judge me have ever walked the streets of bakersfield? [applause] >> i've walked those streets my entire life. i know it's people. they're hardworking and relentless and optimistic about our future. and i am very honored to have the opportunity to represent them. i am the son of a firefighter. i saw firsthand the millions -- of hard work, leadership in service to others can change peoples lives. and that is exactly why we are here today. to serve you the people. we come here with the support of our families, and the face of our neighbors, to be the voice in washington. for all the wives and husbands, children's and parents that are

watching. a loved one being sworn in. i know it took a couple extra days. i'll be honest, it's not how i planned. i want you to remember this moment. take it in. your loved ones are about to make history. my colleagues and i thank you for your understanding and your sacrifice. and we will work every day to make you proud. my most -- is not in the chamber. it's in this chamber we met before, in statutory hall. one of my favorite places to take people on a tour. it is where abraham lincoln served, a one term congressman sat in the back. i like to go to that spot and i like to stand where he stood.

i like to look over and look at the clock. because that is the same clock in same view that abraham lincoln saw. as i've watched lincoln served in the greatest challenge to the civil war. -- i watched him take people who were arrivals, and put them together. i've watched at a time but he did not know if the nation could sustain itself. but he dreamt of a future and built a railroad across the nation. i want us to all take a moment, one time that you are here, and i want you to stand there. i want you to look and i want you to think, if america could do it then, we could do it now one more time. [applause] >> abraham lincoln gave his

life in service to this country. one of his most important observations about america applies today. as much as it did 160 years ago. he said we are striving to maintain the government and institutions of our fathers. and to transmit them to our children and our children's children forever. my fellow americans, that is still our mission today.

this moment calls for restoring trust within our country and with each other. in that spirit i will work with anyone and everyone who shares our passion to deliver a better future for the nation. i hope you will join me. as a congress, we can only operate if we cooperate. my door will be open. i'd like you to come by. i want you to see, as you walk down the hall, a large portrait of lincoln. i want you to go into that conference room and i want you to see another portrait. my members know this. it's of washington crossing the delaware.

you all know the story. it happened on christmas, 1776. there was no iphone to take a picture. people wonder when it was painted. it was not painted by someone who was there it was painted in 1850 and 1851. he wasn't immigrant who lived in america -- emmanuel. you know why he painted it? because he knew america was more than a country, america was an idea. he went home to germany and he wanted germany to have a revolution based upon the values and freedoms that we defend every day his talent was art so he believes he painted this painting he could inspire his countryman to rise up for the ideas of freedom many

historians will tell you he did not get a correct they'll tell you washington crossing on a durham vote but he paints it with washington in a row bow. you see, 13 people but only 12 faces. you see, washington standing up in a row bow in the middle of winter wearing a ceremonial uniform with his hand on his chest. he looks so stoic. you look at that man he would say, i fall him anywhere. you probably believe that he never lost a battle. but history would tell us that that moment, at that time, he had only lost. we have never won. uc, that was the night of our first victory as a nation when we surprise the -- but when you look at that painting, don't look at washington. i want you to look at who is in the boat. you see, the second role in the beret, he scottish. the person directly crossed him

in the green growing in the exact same cadence, as an african american. you come down right to the middle in the red. the person who was rowing the strongest is a woman. and in the very back, is a native american. i don't know from her historic fact that they were on the boat that night. but to this young immigrant who had lived in america, that's who he believed would be in the boat. the second to last person is a farmer. he could be from bakersfield, i'm not sure. his hand grows across his face. people would debate this part. but what i see is the hand of the 13th person no one sees. what i believe a manual is

saying is, here we are, battling for the creation of the idea of freedom. that every individual is equal. not a perfect nation, but striving to be a more perfect union. having lost every battle against the greatest challenge with the strongest nation, having lost them all. but willing to do it on our holiest of nights with the hand reached out and asking if you would join us. that's as true today as it was then. if we let everybody on the boat, if we road in the same cadence together, there is no obstacle this body can overcome for this nation. [applause]

>> it is time for us to be the voice and worthy of their vote. let me close with this. i may not know all of you, some of you are new. but i hope one thing is clear after this week. i never give up. [applause] >> i make this promise. i will never give up for you, the american people. and i will never give up on

keeping our commitment to america. our nation is worth fighting for. our rights are worth fighting, for our dreams are worth fighting for. our future is worth fighting for. [applause] >> therefore, with a love for this country, and charity for each other, let us now take our oath and be worthy of the office on which we are about to enter. god bless everybody in this chamber. and god bless america. [applause] >> not so fast. i have to get sworn in first. sit down. i am now ready to take the oath of office.

i want to ask the dean of the house, the honorable how rodgers of kentucky. one of my first mentors to administer the oath of the office. [applause] >> first, we want to offer a bipartisan congratulations to the gentleman from california. [applause] >> now will the speaker designate raise his right hand? do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic?

that you will bear true faith and allegiance -- to the same? that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose -- of evasion, and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office of which you are about to enter. so help you god. >> yes i do. >> congratulations and godspeed! [applause] >> thank you. >> according to the president, the chair both wherein the members elect in mass. the member elects will rise. the chair will now administer the oath of the office. all members elect will raise

their white hand. do you solemnly swear and affirm that you will strongly support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic? but you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which you are about to enter so help you god? >> i do. >> congratulations. you are now members of the 118th -- [applause]

>> 35 congresspeople sworn in. c-span cameras on george santos. >> we can confirm george santos was actually sworn in as a member of congress, something that he put out in a press release on monday, which was not true. it's done. it's definitely you and i met each other in the halls a few hours ago when we're not sure if it was gonna happen tonight. >> now is he's doing he's not doing the rose package tonight so you might have to adjourn. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from new york. >> it's my humble honor to be the first to address you from the floor of the people's house as mister speaker.

[applause] >> mister speaker as chair as the republican conference i'm directed by that conference to notify the house officially the of the republican members have selected as majority leader, the gentleman from -- louisiana, mr. steve scalise. [applause] >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. aguilar. >> mister speaker, as the chair of the democratic caucus, i've been directed to report the house of the democratic members have selected as my morally leader, the gentleman from new york, mr. hakeem jeffries. [applause]

>> the chair recognizes the gentleman from new york -- >> mister speaker, as chair of the republican conference, i am directed by that conference to notify the house officially the republican members have selected as majority -- from minnesota, mr. tom amr. [applause] >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. aguilar? >> these are technicalities, all of which we know, of the officeholders of the various priorities are gonna go through that for a while, i assume at that point they will wrap it up. i'm curious, hakeem jeffries speech whether it was written by miranda, that is something else.

i've noticed on twitter, that it's only donning on some people that he went through the entire alphabet. >> you and i did not realize it and then we got the w it was extraordinary. but i will say, he did have all week to prepare. >> that's a good point. [laughter] i was texting with another congress person who confirmed to me there was no teleprompter, there was no script. >> it was a wild speech. simone sanders is with us. simone, by the way, in the week that hakeem jeffries may have been preparing the speech a lot was going on we had an unemployment number today that was strong -- more job creation. the unemployment rate dropping 3.5%. we had the president of the united states hobnobbing around with mitch mcconnell talking about bridges this week. in something that looked like a snub to the house. >> [inaudible] >> republicans and democrats talk about things getting done it was a very different week outside of the house. >> absolutely. you saw president biden do what he has been saying he was going to do. he's been saying that he is

going to go out there vote for the american people they're going to and then he's gonna get on the road and demonstrate to people what this legislation means to them -- the bridge in kentucky, for anyone who does not know, that particular bridge -- it has kentuckians, it has ohio and. it's probably one of the most -- bridges in the east coast. the one people that could bring all the people together. that bridge is just one example of many infrastructure projects that are now going to be fixed and rehabbed, if you will, due to money from the infrastructure bill that has passed. i think is very important and critical -- and i think that this entire week is something we're going to see -- we are going to sue the house and chaos due to the extremist republican members that have been empowered by now, speaker mccarthy. and you are going to see the white house in the senate try to go forward and do some of -- their business. the extremism that took over this week in the house of

representatives -- , that was roundly rejected at the ballot boxes. it's not what the american people want frankly, i don't think it's what the majority of republicans who are elected leadership wants. they want to be able to get things done. i think the last point i want to make is about the historic moment we just witnessed. the speech from the democratic leader, hakeem jeffries. he's the first black person of any political party to lead a caucus. to lead either in the house or the senate. a story only possible in the united states of america. he talked about what democrats were four and his story. he made clear that under his leadership that he work with republicans. but also he made clear what they would not compromise on. and then you have the speech from speaker mccarthy who came out and it was an important moment for him, personally. a combination of his career. it was not as inspiring, but i was very struck by the point he

made about wanting to get to work for the american people. and the things he lifted off that they would do were about investigating the origin of covid-19. he talked about specifically looking into what happened with the pull out from afghanistan. again, not things that were on the minds of voters. >> i was surprised at the red meat he threw two conspiracy theories particularly with the covid stuff. after the week he had, i would almost think you'd want to give a middle finger to them. but he threw them some red me. >> how about the night that john allen has had? he has been waiting for hours to join us, he is with us now, john your take away? here we are, 1:47 am. >> well, republicans are messy staff and i will continue to get messier. the republicans don't have the votes right now to do a rules package, they were told to do that tonight, they are gonna wait until monday to do it because they don't have the votes. and also mccarthy will make it more difficult for congress to

raise the debt ceiling's. they want to make sure that america pay its debts, and make it extraordinary difficult to keep the government open and we've got them talking, i've got norman talking this week. talking about whether mccarthy would like to shut the government down. in september. that was one of the things that was in the criteria. it was willing to do this thing if they were gonna vote for him. it's a messy republican, still stands, but this house may be the incentives and called his right now for the next two years. we saw earlier tonight, one in the left, or, another and that wasn't alabama going after matt gates, i've been told by a source familiar that rodgers was angry that gates was in the armed services committee gamble. and i don't think that's gonna be the most fiery that we've seen members on the floor in this congress. and americans having that divide. >> if they can agree on the

rules for a vote package tonight, what happens if they don't have the votes on monday? >> i was texting with a moderate democratic member who thought that the rules package that we are going to see when the details come out this weekend is absolutely crazy, and that there are republicans that can be worked on. as i said, i'm a little bit skeptical that there are, i think there are plenty of crazier republicans on the right in the weeks and months ahead. are there five moderate republicans that would break with the new speaker on his first vote? i don't think that they're big enough for that, but i say that the details are the rules package, so who knows what specific injections that they might have in that vote on monday. i thought it was interesting, it's something that ali was saying about the candidates, in the first speech as speaker mccarthy, was that he dabbled in some of the conspiracism, any dabbled a little bit in the conspiracism. but i don't know, i listen to republican speeches all fall on the campaign trail, and there was a lot more then maga nationalism.

and the votes that we saw, i think 90% of speaker mccarthy's first speech could have been mitt romney's 2012 convention. and i think that that shows how uncomfortable he is with his conference and why they were doing this at two a. m. on a weekend. instead of having done this on tuesday. is that, he is not comfortable with where the party has gone. and he's trying to navigate this, even with his speeches, by being his natural self. a chamber of congress republican, and dabbling in, and moving on with a discomfort of some of the more conspiratorial maga stuff that is going to appeal in the dynamic and rising part of the republican congress. >> he said in his speech, simone, he said that i never give up. based on the information i want, given that, i want to know what he gave up?

i want to know what he actually gave up to not give up his bid for speakership, he kept on giving more stuff up and we do not know. we may found out with the rules package, but we don't know what it is. we don't know what he traded to get all these votes. and what they need to come around. >> yeah, there is a verse in the bible, that says, what is it caused the man to gain the whole world and lose his soul. i think that's actually a classic, kevin mccarthy here. we don't know what he gave up, but i think that we should bold underline, and i want to say what they just, said the fact that speaker mccarthy is not comfortable with where the party has gone. but he's willing to traffic in the depths and the sales of the most terrible parts of the republican party apparatus. because it will give him the hold on to power. so i think that that is the dynamic that a lot of republicans out there, they're not comfortable, but they go along with it. and what a number of those across the country and said, you have to stand up for, something and what we are about to witness, in the house of representatives, you are going to see people who are willing

to equate themselves into a pretzel for things that they say that they don't necessarily believe in, all for power. a number of these folks voted to go with donald trump on the big lie about the election. a number of these individuals supported and upheld and believe the insurrectionists. a number of these individuals have by alex against their fellow members of congress. these are the people that kevin mccarthy has just empowered with the speakership. make no mistake, there is no watering this down. there is now, looks like matt gates, and it's a good guy who can work on with some things. we sat here and talked about the fact that he was -- for social activity. so we really need to understand what is down here. >> but that's also while they are in office. remember, those who are willing to go the farthest in this last election. kari lake, mehmet oz, doug mastriano. and where are they now today?

sitting at the couch's at home. because the american people would not stand to vote them in. john allen, isn't that a consideration as we go forward? remembering where the american people are. and what voters want? >> you would think that lauren boebert would've been a great example of that. somebody who almost lost her seat, perhaps, learning from that. maybe she might not want to go so extreme. but some people don't understand if they put their hand on the stove it is going to burn. some people have to put their hand on the stove to feel the burn, and then withdraw it. and you have lauren boebert and these other holdouts who would sit the republican party on that stove for the last few days. they've not learned the lesson of not being too extreme. we will see what happens with this house as they try to put together an agenda, and they try to oppose joe biden, but i don't think that there is anybody happier about what happened in the last few days,

and simone was talking about the contrast of biden at the bridge, i'm sorry, maybe stephen and aly you are talking about the contracts of biden at the bridge in cincinnati and coming into kentucky. with mitch mcconnell. that contrast against what we have just watched in the house. a speaker vote that took four days. and some that you saw on the floor earlier this week are probably old enough to vote right now. [laughter] >> my takeaway, there is still awake today. >> simone, tim, and john, thank you. and thanks everybody else who has been with us tonight. stephanie and i had a nice interaction earlier before both of us started our shows. and i thought that was kind of fun. that was, you and i spent ten minutes talking to each other. like old times. who knew? >> 10:48 pm. i walked into the studio and said. hey ali? can you say a few minutes with me. and the last, it's almost two a. m.. >> always happy to stay with.

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