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finally official. kevin mccarthy is the new speaker of the house after 15 hard-fought ballots and some serious late night drama. and a good saturday morning to you, i'm katie fang, let's begin today's show getting caught up on how we got here. it started with the 14th vote late last night >> mccarthy managed to flip more of the hard-line republicans needed to win the speakership. but came up short one matt gates voted present. that led to a tense conversation on the house floor between the two men, and our show of visible frustration from mccarthy. and watch this. republican congressman mike rogers approaches matt gates to see something and a colleague pulls him back by putting a hand on his face. the moment showing how much anger was boiling over on the floor after several days of voting. and then for a moment it looked like republicans are going to

adjourn, and start voting again on monday. but at the last second, or it was out that they suddenly had the votes. and of that 15th ballot, mccarthy finally won. and early this morning, five days after the speakership voting began, the 118th congress was sworn in, and speaker kevin mccarthy took the gavel. but even though we have a speaker as of 1:38 this morning, the story is far from over. it remains to be seen exactly what speaker mccarthy had to give up in those negotiations that eventually gave him his victory. in this new house, set to vote on a new set of rules on monday. one of the items are hard-line gop rebels were focused on. where do we go from here? congressional correspondent joey sorkin is alive. julia, i know it's been a late night for me, and definitely for you. what more can you tell us about everything that happened last night?

>> oh my gosh, katie, so much drama. 15 ballots he had to go through before you finally secured the speakership. seven years after you first began going for it. really, in 2015, when he was blocked. so this was a heated moment. i was standing outside the speakers lobby when the rubble was going on, a member of the floor, democrat, sent me a picture of that saying, no rules yet. they were able to take the pictures and videos in the flow. and on monday facts actually what they can do next. they were gonna actually do it overnight last night, because they have the moment to keep moderates aligned over the finish line. mccarthy had to get up quite a lot cote -- making it nearly impossible to pass anything in the next two years. the government telling control of the senate. so some of the biggest items in that rules package, all up to

do with bending in giving us members more power. that given a few seats on the power fossils committee. this essentially controls plessis can call for a vote of essentially no confidence, in order to remove kevin mccarthy cote -- >> house democrats will always put american values over autocracy. but benevolence over bigotry. the constitution over the call. democracy over demagogues. i economic opportunity over extremism. >> i hope one thing is clear after this week. i never give up.

>> katie it should be noted that mccarthy went from 20 people voting against him, to actually not one republican voting against him. all the holdouts change their votes to president it, a last-minute turnaround out when congressman paul were trying to bowlusville that lead to a spiral effect on the line,. a lot of drama, you can see of the conservatives would coq au vin. >> i can imagine, julie, that lauren boebert was the sapped of the floodgates open. for doing this hard work, thank you, i know you've been locking those hours, so things are getting us started. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we are also getting new reaction from the white house

after the overnight developments on capitol hill. white house correspondent monica alba has more. >> good morning katie, everyone was watching the drama, including the white house. biden released a statement around 1 am, congratulating now speaker mccarthy and he is ready to work with looking than this. voters there and a statement he highlighted his own trip to kentucky, partisanship working in that measure, coq au vin somehow they were already investigated the biden administration, and even his own family. so that we need to be navigate coq au vin.

this is embarrassing because the whole world was watching and you want them to get their act together as quickly as possible. katie? >> thanks to monica and. albuquerque got, by talk to you about my power political fellow, about the jam on the house floor, and meansville and publicans ability to govern could this be the beginning of a congressional circus? this morning buffalo bills safety hubert copy good morning, what do we know about a mormons condition this morning? >> yes, katie, good morning, it's been a remarkable turn of

events for damar hamlin. he remains hospitalized, but his breathing tube has been removed. so he's breathing on his own. he's able to communicate with family, friends, and physicians. well as conditions from new -- >> kitty, there is a lot of unknowns about demarcus york, arbery like when he might be released from the hospital. and what exactly caused is currently cardiac arrest monday

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>> and i cannot be more proud of that. >> the teachers in her 30s and has suffered life-threatening injuries parc churchley came face to face with the killer. but first, our saturday morning power political panel here louviers.

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morning, kevin mccarthy is not the speaker of the house. and the 118 congress has been sworn in. now, all eyes turned to the house's first order of business. setting its own rules. many of the gop are learners that opposed to mccarthy as speaker of the house had very particular roles changes that they were maneuvering for. it's still unclear what exactly would go on mccarthy. in the negotiations. and i'm hoping to and msnbc

political analyst. and then. shoe democrats have any hopes of working with the rulebook income. but to lose a soul to all the power, it comes with being a speaker, and what in the gavel. it's something to watch pelosi's hand being traveled to kevin mccarthy, almost disintegrated into ashes before our eyes. but she had questioned, no, i don't think the democrats have anything to pierre.

spawned with great unity and organization and no kid when. has opposed to the absolute other chaos. . we're gonna find out what the costs, and then as long as the democrats start right now, i know joe biden and anyone else at the white house are looking the chops this morning saying, if there's anything dysfunctional in this government, it's a

responsibility of one party, trump maga kevin mccarthy controlling this in the morning. you've been in the room for these types of negotiations. matt gates was asked why it changed his vote to present and eventually for support of mccarthy. he said quote, unheard of things to ask for. i mean, how concerned should americans be? about what governor kathy gave up, what he agreed to behind closed doors to get the gavel he's been craving for so long? >> the question of what was given up was so important here, in the context of what we commemorated yesterday, the two year and over serial january 6th, first, katie and that sticks to be with you and ferdinand. to my good friends. i have to eat a little kudrow this morning. i said he couldn't get it done. i overestimated the two things. the amount he would give away in the fact that never kevin

said he would be never given. i gotta run by a hair here. let's talk about what it takes to get it done because it's so critically important. what >> we know we gave away was to give more breathing room and more power to the insurrectionists. and we really have to look at it through this context. he'll hear the insurrectionist caucus talk about what they did was empower all members to feel more do more attitude. but those members had usually been kept in check by letter ship. certainly by pelosi pape to the very people who have waited too important to steal the election. he handed over the keys to that party by saying you can have one of the house. i'm gonna give you the opportunity to shut down the government. and then secondly what he given

that we know is the formation of what looks like a tour church committee or they sure that the integrity of the federal government, and tell america that your government is spying on you coming up to you. that is at the heart of this tear down break down government. we can't just the government. we're gonna topple. it louis vuitton and then have undermined the itself government peuplier. to david's point, in order to add that gender, you've got to be able to have a certain set of roles procedurally, to have it all play out. what is your prediction about how that vote is gonna happen on the rules package? how is it gonna play out? >> well it's past is long and

by the chaos of the last week, i think it's gonna be another one of these unhinged prompts. and i think we should really select a bow oka hublot.

. along with those jeffries, provided that they -- governing starts, ago. what we saw this past week was a continuation of the politics of the 2022 election. as congressman jolly said that these issues come up and the agenda is that even parc mignon.

we are somewhat want to talk about this morning. on the other side. including the parc.

. >>. ,. , mignon i it getting top e.p.o.c.h. of the vaccines in margaret first gold as for jean marjorie taylor gwinnett hoboes on body cava are the after what the speakership. >> this whole week, we saw her and donald trump supporting mccarthy. and then we saw boeberty diggig in her heels until the bitter. and we've seen plenty of talk about how this bizarre split is affecting the republican party. including a headline from the guardian, saying this week, showed the markarova lucian,

quote, evening it's children. pierre. huge government data given. >> i do want to especially think president trump. . somebody wrote the data whether we was there. so >> which is? it is donald trump still the clearer unquestioned leader of the republican party? or the maga movement outgrowing them. let's bring back david jolly, and fernand ahmaud, i'll start

with you. putting behind the parc. and or the gop like other markup figures taken with movement. . coming off a two-year commemoration of his friend january six, thank you to donald trump for everything is done for the party. kind of a disgusting moment. it shows exactly the kind of force and of mccarthy's.

. pape. let's talk a little bit more about the election in the party. i have to ask you about the moment when mike or the pierre.

>> republican caucus, you folks who understand just are problematic and how, causative,

pierre with, the republicans don't present the entirety of the united states. i want to take a step back for a second and kind of pick up a little bit on our last block about this rose package. you've been. there you've worked on the floor. towards where those rules package is pape.

as we saw the last four days of. amen pape parc.

numbers and wasn't how stranger that definitely benefited this week was extra centers, if that is his name. he definitely has not escaped scrutiny, we saw him getting buddy buddy with marjorie taylor greene, which was very disturbing. talk about getting sworn into office early this morning, and whether or not that's continuing to get of election, and frankly it's craving no, let me get where you need to

be. support mccarthy got in there. there's no question about it. i don't see it as any kind of outlier. or any kind of storyline that we should have anticipated. what else do you need. he threw a white supremacist signs so we know what that's about but again. the beauty of the george santos storyline, as he's gonna be, here stone in congress. there's an investigation underway. all these elements triple with the credibility of the gop, and the house majority. i think, to draw a distinctive, effective, parallel, in any of the investigations, that they may try to do, to undermine the credibility of democrats. what other factor i think we need to be very, very focused on, there are perhaps a dozen, perhaps a few more, republicans in that congress that are gonna run for reelection in 2024. and districts that joe biden would.

and if they start to see this become more chaotic. and if the speaker is working with them on the side, that's gonna be a problem. they're gonna bail, and then there's the other, is the retirements, you're gonna remember seeing, after a couple weeks, i'm not putting up with this much longer. i'm not gonna be going down my legacy and history, with the caucus, i might form a unity coalition with democrats and other insensible republicans if there's any loved, and now the sandals wing, representing the new congress katie. >> all right olivier for now, and i think i touched on an optimistic foot, i don't know if i subscribe to, that but i think you are the optimism. i think we all need. it may be that dysfunction will

dissipate. i want to thank my saturday morning political power, thanks for lodging 2023 with. we appreciate it. and coming up, more than a month after special counsel jack smith was appointed to take over two criminal probes involving donald trump, where do his investigations stand? that's coming up next.

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second anniversary of the january 6th attack on the capitol, the special counsel investigating donald trump has arrived back in the u.s. after staying in europe to recover from an injury, according to the washington post. jack smith, is known as a fearless prosecutor who has won a tough cases against the worst of the worst, including war criminals, monsters, and crooked cops. and now he is deep diving into trump's alleged efforts to undermine the 2020 election results on his potential mishandling of classified documents. this week, his office reportedly received a trove of subpoena documents from clark county, nevada, that showed trump's lawyers raising baseless concerns about voter fraud and a man in clark county reveal the names, and political

ideology of workers tasked with counting votes. that, according to documents obtained by the ap through a public records request. nbc news has not independently reviewed those documents. jack smith has issued a similar subpoenas to officials in the battleground states of arizona, michigan, and wisconsin, as his office probes trump coordinated efforts to remain in power. joining me now from more on all of this is former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, cynthia oxley. cynthia, good morning, thanks for being here. we just marked as you know, the second anniversary of the january 6th attacks. there is supposed to be a doj investigation, as we're running parallel to the 16 select committee's work, are you surprised as we hear today that trump still hasn't faced any charges related to the attack on the capital, or is this case just a little bit more complicated than we get credit for? >> well, it's a little of both. the cases are complicated. but, let's face it, the

department of justice was slow and getting started on this. according to the new york times, when cassidy hutchinson flipped and came out and told her story, that was news to the department of justice, okay, well i should've been news to the prominent justice. she worked for mark meadows, she obviously was a key witness, and they should've interviewed her first. so, i do think they are behind and that is a problem, but now they're clearly moving forward with this guy jacks mitt, he's a serious prosecutor. you put those convictions up. the most important to me is the justin bowl think conviction, that was the brutalization in brooklyn of admiral louis monk, that was a very -- that was an awful, awful thing that justin vail be did to add may -- it was highly political and he moved forward with speed. and it gives me hope, based on those prosecutions and his efficacy that he will move forward on this one. but it's hard, i mean, there's

no question. if you have to look at the two prosecutions, the more longer prosecution is clearly the easier prosecution, i hope he goes for it on it soon. >> and to your point, cynthia, doesn't expression, or about the mar-a-lago investigation. that one is so much farther along in terms of the development of evidence. we've seen some of it already in public, for public consumption, why haven't we seen charge here with respect to the morning of classified documents. >> well, i would guess that that was going to come pretty soon. let's face it, that's an easy prosecution. you stole the documents, we're asking for, them we ask you pretty please, he said no, you lied about it, you move them, and then we found it. it's a reasonably easy prosecution. there are a couple of outstanding things. one is, what is the obstruction? we know that originally, they made the eight live and didn't say that he had moved the documents under trump's direction and then eventually flipped ended. now, the question is was that

flip, was that in any way coordinated? without an obstruction by trump or any of the lawyers all of, perhaps that cassidy hutchinson model. they have to figure out that obstruction, and they also have to figure out, now that they have the documents, where they shared with anybody and what exactly happened with him. and that may take some time, but the truth of the matter is that it's a relatively easy case, it could be prosecuted at anytime, and i hope they do it before spring. >> i got less than a minute left with the, but i did have to ask the related use, longtime partner -- brian sicknick who died after the 16 insurrection, she's filed alongside death lawsuit against trump, and two of the men attacking him with bear spring on a day, what are your thoughts on this lawsuit. >> well, i'm worried about it. i think that there are causation issues, not only for sicknick died the day after he was bare spread and had those numerous strokes, and a d.c.

examiner, a medical examiner said he died of natural causes even though he had some supporting language that would help the lawsuit. and then there's a connection between those people who sprayed officer sicknick, and trump, and that's going to have to be proved. but here is the joy of it. the joy of it is, there's gonna be discovery. i'm in, there's enough information, there is enough basic information that the lawyers in that case are going to get to depose president trump. and i think that will be very helpful. these are very good look years, they have a great reputation, particularly marked zaid, so i'm looking forward to that deposition testimony. >> cynthia, it's good to see you, my, friends happy new to your, my best wishes, and thank you for launching 2023 with us this morning. i appreciate it. and just ahead, chilling new details about how authorities were able to track and on the suspect in the murders of four

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knowing next almost nothing, of the brutal murders of four idaho students back in november, we are finally getting some answers. oren kohberger made his first court appearance this week, and with it, an unsealed probable cause affidavit outlining some shocking details. there's still no matter what brand to be found, but we now know that police could find a knife sheath next to the body of one of the victims. on, it male dna on the sheets button snap, investigators were able to match to trash activity that was found outside of cooper's family home in penciling feel. the affidavit says that the one

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students? >> >> okay katie, what we know about this case is that it was a mass murder. and what we know about mass murders are, the is retaliation, pierre. and i'm sure the police pierre. surges she peuplier -- try to understand more about his relationships and its interactions. and it's the affidavit i'm so olivier so we know he's been

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