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just look around. this digital age we're living in, it's pretty unbelievable. problem is, not everyone's fully living in it. nobody should have to take a class or fill out a medical form on public wifi with a screen the size of your hand. home internet shouldn't be a luxury. everyone should have it and now a lot more people can. so let's go. >> thanks for joining us this the digital age is waiting. morning and watching the katie phang show, velshi, is next. >> good morning, it's saturday january the 7th i'm, ali velshi. if you didn't stay up late last night, like some of us stood,
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let me be the first to tell you that there is finally a new speaker of the house, and the 118 congress has officially been convened. it took four days, and 15 tries, but in the early hours of this morning, the california congressman, kevin mccarthy, was finally elected the new speaker, putting him third in line for the presidency of the united states. it was a tough road getting there, especially last night, when tensions between republican members themselves, almost reached a breaking point. from the house reconvened at 10 pm last night, republicans appeared hopeful that they had votes to elect mccarthy on the 14th ballot, but when that seem headed for baylor, mccarthy's allied huddled around the florida congressman, matt gates, to get him to vote for mccarthy. instead, gates voted present, which is not good enough to win mccarthy in speakership. after the roll call, mccarthy himself approached gates, the two exchanged words amid a group of other lawmakers. mccarthy was the only one who seem frustrated with gates. i want point, the
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representative mike rogers of alabama, watchlist, was about to happen, he approaches a group, shouting at gates, he has to be physically held back and lead away. just minutes after that tense confrontation, gates approached mccarthy on the floor, and they appeared to strike a deal. then, shortly after midnight, mccarthy received enough votes to become the speaker he was sworn into his new position after one a.m. and so it was the rest of the 118th congress. mccarthy was elected with 216 votes, enough to win him the speakers gavel on the 15th try. the last day of mccarthy speaker stillbirth so go up abused the backdrop of the second anniversary of the january six insurrection. and noticeably, there lost six republican holdouts who voted present, allowing mccarthy to win, where supporters of donald trump's big baseless lie about election fraud that ultimately led to the violent attack on the capitol two years ago. with the exception of the freshman congressman, eli crane, the other five members continued to object and vote against the certification of
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the votes when congress resumed its duties after the attack. all six, are members of, or are associated with, the fear in congress. the most ultraconservative group in the house. gates and his allies have tried to explain their actions this week as, democracy and action, arguing that they were giving voice to their constituents back home, but their actions this week were in fact a deliberate act to interfere with a regular functioning government, and to grab more power for themselves. keep in mind, if this had been the convening of congress after a presidential election, congress would not have been able to certify the votes for president because members hadn't been sworn in, because there is no speaker just for the man, there was no congress until 2:00 this morning. that's something to keep in mind, as the 2024 election cycle gets underway. now, that the 118th congress is officially in session, the question isn't just how republicans will govern, but do they want to? i'm gonna put that question to the republican congressman,
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angela garber in out of new york. he was a member of the homeland security and small business committees in the last congress, he's also the chair of the climate solutions caucus, and a member of the problem solvers caucus. congressman, good to see, thank you for being with us this morning. exhausting time for the country, and exhausting time for republicans this last week. we are starting this congress off with a bit of a big stain in the middle of our shirts. >> well, you know, we have a speaker and i think everybody is excited, and congress can now get to the work that the american people elected them to do. so, i think it took 15 votes, but i'm excited to finally say, speaker kevin mccarthy, and i think after this week it took a couple extra days than normal, but i think the republican party is a little more unified now. like i said, it took a little longer, but now we know how to work together and move things forward. that's going to be very helpful,
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especially this congress, with such a tight majority for the important bills to come over the next two years. >> so let's talk about. that an issue, late for most of the week, the 13 votes, there were 20 people who either voted present, voted for someone else, or didn't vote for mccarthy versus the 215, 212 who did. then it came down to six people. so the bottom line is, the group in the republican car party is very small. democrat kratz also had a -- didn't want to go with what nancy pelosi had. say the margins are exactly the same in the last congress. what do you do about this? are you worried about how dame imaging this small group of congress members can be over the next quarter for years after you and the problem solvers caucus are -- the county help the american people? >> i think it's not just the six members. it's any member in the
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republican congress can work together to make sure that a bill that they don't think is good for their constituents, that they don't think it's good for their district does not pass. i think this is actually, it's going to be good. you have members in the republican conference that represent districts biden won by over ten points. you have members of the republican conference that trump won by over 40 points. so it's a big tense this conference, we're gonna work together because we have such a tight majority. i think it's going to be better for the country because the bills that we passed won't be extreme and at the end of the day, we're going to need to work with the democratic senate, and the democratic presidential, to pass any legislation to become law. so the bills, we're going to have to work in a bipartisan way. but first, the republican conference is going to need to work together, and finally, we did that last night when we elected kevin mccarthy speaker. >> i think you make an interesting point there. that this does force a degree of bipartisanship. that's never going to be a bad thing. however, last night on fox news,
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matt gates said, and he seemed to be implying that he was going to vote for mccarthy, even though he didn't at any point, he said i'm running out of things to ask for. which suggests that mccarthy made more concessions. you didn't vote on the rules package last night, that's going to happen on monday. do you know what mccarthy gave up to get the present votes of the six members last night? >> the only thing that was changed in the rules package from what was presented and agreed to by the congress over the weekend, on i think it was actually new year's eve, was that they motion to vacate's role, that one from it needed to be put forth by five members was changed down to one. at the end of the, day speaker mccarthy thought that was fine. it was one vote, before speaker pelosi change the rule a couple of years ago, so it just goes back to the way the rule originally was. other than that, not much else was changed in the rules
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package. actually, nothing is changing the rules package compared to what we agreed on -- >> except there are more committee memberships that are affected by that. >> well, i think at the end of the day the discussions were about having members of the freedom caucus, having members of mainstream caucus, having members of the choose the, group having members of problem solvers all list different committees on the committee requests. at the end of the day, the speaker can't behind the steering committee. i'm also member of the stand committee. i represent new york's region on the steering committee, and every member of the steering committee has their own vote to say what members get on what committees, so the speaker couldn't promise gavels away, he couldn't promise actual committees spots away. that still all has to go through a regular order which is with the steering committee, which are meeting start this week on monday. >> there were a lot of people who were watching this with
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either glee or looking at it like there's a clown car, but for people like you, moderate republicans, members of the problem solvers caucus, were you starting to get annoyed by the fact that the small group of people seems to be dictating your agenda when guys like you are just looking to solve problems and move on. >> yeah, you know frustrations did run high this. week i know you showed the clip of mike rogers who's gonna be the chair of the house armed services committee, but at the end of the day i think this was healthy because we're gonna need to have these discussions for a lot more. we've got the debt ceiling coming up. we have budget votes coming. up we have the nba. i'm pushing for 9/11 health care coverage. we have a lot of things that are coming up and we need 218 votes for. so, i think there showed us that we need to start communicating as a conference a lot sooner than we did to make sure everybody is on the same page. so i think, at the end of, there is actually healthy for us and i think everybody is
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excited to see what speaker mccarthy is going to do for us. >> i'm worried about one thing. and that is the debt ceiling discussion. both government funding and that's going to sketch. and every year, what we've talked about not increasing the debt ceiling, there's been this fear that if you don't do that bond prices fall, interest rates go up, and you have all sorts of economic problems. we are now in a place where we have really high interest rates, and we write about a recession in this year, the debt ceiling gamma might be more dangerous this year than it's been for the last 15 years. >> yeah. listen, i don't think anybody wants us to default on our debt. that's definitely something we can't do as a the major player in the entire world. so, nobody in the conference yet, in conference discussions have said that we need to know if the fuel. nobody said we're going to not lift the debt ceiling. the focus is to make sure that
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they debt ceiling is lifted, but as kevin mccarthy, the new speaker said, he said i'm not going to give a blank check. those discussions, i believe, are going to start amongst the president, senator schumer, and now speaker mccarthy. >> congressman, i am appreciative. you had a as later night as i did. even yours might've been later. i appreciate you joining us is. when i was good to see, other publican congressman, andrea garber reno of new york. let's bring in someone else who i know didn't get any work closely mostly by got last night. the other are levy. nbc news cap -- we were on tv together, late last, night covering the speaker vote. ali, what's a night. so many curveballs and changes that we didn't expect. i am dying to get your analysis this morning after either in our sleep, or zero sleep. >> i think what i did is technically a nap, but it's probably the same for you. and i have to tell you, last night was such a rollercoaster. we have been tracking this the entire time. my colleague and i regularly in
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touch with these key negotiators, these key holdouts, it seems like as everyone was walking to the floor last night, everyone thought this was. it i heard byron donalds talk to someone else, this is happening right now and of course, we know it didn't. somewhere in our eye credible footage there was imagery of me reacting. i look like an emoji. i was shocked. i think everybody in the building was because this was what we thought the combination of the evening was, the whole reason they adjourned was for kevin mccarthy to become speaker. now he has. and you and i started talking about this last night about what the ramifications of that are. he gave away so many things that would've allowed him to have a more affective speakership, and i say that way because he was always going to have a tough time. here, when you have the margins of fourth and five, we watched pelosi do this balancing act and she's probably the best person who's ever done it. mccarthy was always going to have a hard time. this shows now, just how heart of a time he's going to have. because the things that are up on the screen and ida, the idea
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that the freedom caucus was able to negotiate seats on key committees like rules and appropriations, all of these places that have a lot of control of spending and also just, what gets to the floor, like the rules committee is the gatekeeper committee. you don't get any vote on the floor without first having the rules committee passing it on through the. and the fact that you're gonna have freedom caucus members,. they're one of whom mccarthy gets the choose, and the other two who get to come off a list of the freedom caucus gave to mccarthy, they have a lot of control over this process. and i listened to chip roy, scott perry, all of these key rebel negotiators as we've started calling them, the whole point of this process was to take power away from the speaker. mission accomplished. they did that. kevin mccarthy now has a job, and he's gonna have a pretty tough time going forward. >> you, not just to show the viewers how the sausage is made. i was arguing with my producers last, night because they said get ali vitali to join us in the morning, i said, come on she's not gonna have any sleep, she's probably gonna be working
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till midnight, or even when i am, and you and i were together on tv till far later than that. >> they'll know for taylor. >> andrew governor, you just heard him, problem solvers caucus, more moderate member of the republican conference. trying, and if you're trying harder this naturally cursed him to not come down hard on that group of 20 rebels and then six through this week and kevin mccarthy speakership into disarray. we did see mike rogers, lunch at matt gates last night. something i mentioned earlier in the week, is it gonna come to blows and the floors of congress. we've been seeing that in a very long time. somebody trained him, you can see it here, he's coming up and you'll see him sort of, i don't really know what happened. he reaches in, it doesn't look like he was going to do much, but then somebody grabs him and pulls him back. kevin mccarthy notices something's happen, turns around starts walking back in a group of people have gathered around. i say this all as set up to,
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what's the tension level amongst the republican conference if you have been able to gauge it since last night. >> it's high, and one of the potential explanations for that, what we just saw on the screen, and i don't know that this is exactly why it happened, but one of the reasons why i was given after unfolded was there was talk, and we reported this last night on the air with you, that matt gates was interested in negotiating out a subcommittee chairmanship for himself on the house armed services committee that rodgers is the likely chair of. mccarthy had told rank and file members that he is not giving gavels away during his negotiating process to try to get to speaker. there's a lot of seniority questions, there's a lot of questions about how people get gavels, mccarthy assured rank and file that he wasn't something he's using as a cartoon table. i think the fact that this he gaetz was trying to finagle one, really upset some members on the floor. those were the text messages that i was getting, that my producer was getting, so it could be one explanation on why
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we saw that from mike rogers. but i think the larger premise here is that this is now a conference that has aired a rig removes the theme had and they're trying to say that is just family batters, the go forward unified. i have a hard time believing that, because you are talking about the debt ceiling battled garber rideau, about basic government funding, about ukraine aid, that's going to come to a head going forward. there were also deals made about a balanced budget based on 2022 fiscal year numbers. so not the omnibus package that they just pushed through. they did come out to say later, they're just gaining balanced budget based on non discretionary numbers. so they're not touching defense money with that. because there was some worry that they were gonna be cutting about 70 billion from defense spending that they fought so hard to put in. so those details are starting to emerge and moderates have reason to have a little bit of heartburn over this. they can't say much, because it's done, but that's gonna be coming to fruition too.
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-- we are talking to jason crow military veteran last night who was very, very worried that if matt gates was to get the chairmanship on the subcommittee and this kind of stuff came up, including the reduction in defense spending, the lack of commitment to ukraine, that we were in for some other problems. olivier, thanks 1 million, great to spend this much time with you as always. the allergy levy. >> i hope you get a nap. >> we're gonna put some points. they are nbc washington course banning live in washington force. still to come, form republican congressman helps us to try to make sense of the chaotic battle. remember, he was an original tea partier, and the former governor of south carolina. and he ran against donald trump for president. plus, two years after the insurrection that nearly destroyed american democracy, i will talk to the democratic representative, and a custom, as what it was like to be in the chamber that today, and what it was like last night. >> the original group is out
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just look around. this digital age we're living in,l your it's pretty unbelievable. problem is, not everyone's fully living in it. nobody should have to take a class or fill out a medical form on public wifi with a screen the size of your hand. home internet shouldn't be a luxury. everyone should have it
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and now a lot more people can. so let's go. the digital age is waiting. just look around. this digital age we're living in, it's pretty unbelievable. problem is, not everyone's fully living in it. nobody should have to take a class or fill out a medical form on public wifi with a screen the size of your hand. home internet shouldn't be a luxury. everyone should have it and now a lot more people can. so let's go. >> i know might be hard to the digital age is waiting.
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believe, given the state of our politics over the last few decades, and particularly at this very moment in time. but the members of congress do indeed have a code of ethics that they are bound to follow. it's a long and quite throw document, it consists of no fewer than 22 clauses, and an abundance of sub clauses. you're looking at it right now. the code of official conduct for the house, holds its members to certain rules regarding finances, campaign funds, compensation, relationships, who they hire, and more. as a general rule, our federal politicians and their staff are expected to avoid criminal activity. but as we know those who make the laws don't always follow them. that could have been more
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evident back in 2006. a year of sleaze and corruption in congress, from 2005 to 2006, just ahead of the midterm elections, for republican congressman resigned on ethics scandals and criminal indictments. democrats portrayed the republican party as enmeshed in a culture of corruption. yet congressman joe cunningham, who resigned and she doesn't five after accepted more than $2 million in bribes -- and bribery, male frat, wire fraud, and tax of. asian congressman mark foley was accused of sending teenage boys sexually explicit ten messages. he denied the allegations at the time, but was never charged criminally. -- tom delay to violating campaign finance laws, and money laundering. delay was also connected to lobbyist -- abramoff pleaded guilty to
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conspiracy, fraud, and tax evasion for defrauding mainly native american tribes that we're trying to develop casinos on the reservations. the republican congressman, bob nate, resigned to thousand six after pleading guilty to several charges in connected to the abramoff scheme. several other republicans lost reelection that year because of their proximity to or their controversy or scandals of their own. the democrats did have use tumbles of their own not year including the congressman william jefferson who is charged with accepting bribes and engaging in money laundering, in a bizarre case that involved fbi agents founding tens of thousands of dollars in his freezer. the so-called culture of corruption, within the republican party in 2006 led to a sweeping victory for democrats, who reclaim the house, and the senate, and with the renewed power, the house democrats decided to, i guess you can call it, drain the swamp long before someone else made that phrase a false
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campaign promise. in 2008, the democrats establish something called the office of congressional ethics. this is a non partisan, independent entity that reviews allegations of misconduct by the house of representatives. it for indifferent purpose in the house of representatives committee. the difference between them being that the board members of the office of congressional ethics are members of the private. an assault on the oce website, the mission of the osce and its board is to assist the house in upholding high standards of ethical conduct for its members, officers, and that, and in doing so, to serve the american people. the office of congressional ethics, reviews claims and allegations against house members, but cannot end any further than that. when appropriate, the office refers investigations to the house ethics committee, for further review. now both republicans and democrats have argued in the past that the office of
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congressional ethics, hold too much power. but it's been imperative to accountability and transparency in congress. it's a necessary part of the checks and balances on this democracy. yet, since its inception, republican seeking to avoid independent scrutiny, have tried to abolish the office of congressional ethics, and this year is no different. in the house republican rules package, are several causes that would essentially got to the aussie-y and rendered nearly useless. the new rules would limit the ethics office and make it harder for to do its job. let me state the irony here. the republican party, an all caucus devoid of a moral compass and bursting at the seams with conspiracy theorists, and one -- and one man who might be a pathological, are that republican party wants to shield those people from ethics investigations. you'd think an incoming majority it would want to highlight its commitment to ethics, not try to skirt it, which is why the timing of this
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move is notable. just a few weeks ago, before the last congress adjourned, the house committee investigating the january six insurrection referred several republican members of congress to the house ethics committee for refusing to comply with subpoenas. that was a pipe dream. because now the republicans control the house, and the ethics committee, they were never going to investigate their own in connection with the attempted coup of the u.s. government two years ago, yesterday. we know who could? the office of congressional ethics. unless of course, taken down to its studs. it seems the culture of corruption lives on. corruption lives on. contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.
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the moxie. on january six, 2021, millions of us watched on live television as thousands of trump supporters violently attacked the capitol. we watched and we listened in horror as insurrectionists desecrated the building. they chanted about hanging vice president mike's press, for hours. the american people in the world could not keep their eyes off of this coverage. but true by comparison truly understand what it was like in capitol hill and in the chamber on that day. feel, like new hampshire representative, andy custard know what it was like to be told, get down, put your gas masks on, not knowing whether they or their colleagues would make it out alive. custer was part of the color group, a group of lawmakers who are trapped in the house gallery as the violence erupted in the hallways. i'm joined now by the democratic representative. congresswoman, thank you for joining us. after remarkably long night at the capitol. i'm kind of wondering what the overlap was, if any, about the fact that two years ago, on that day, yesterday, you had a
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bunch of people, including some members sought, move your colleagues who are fanning the flames of something that took a big bite out of democracy. some of them were up to it last night again to. >> absolutely. great to be with you, ali. you know, it was just such a surreal day and we spent the day together. those of us have -- that were in the gallery on january six 2021. we had a very solemn ceremony led by our speaker, our later, hakeem jeffries who, there was only run republican who joined us, but i'm so grateful that hakeem did arrange that. and then we gave lunch to the members of the u.s. capitol police force who saved our lives, and saved our democracy that day. i don't think the american people actually understand how close we can, both our lives
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are in danger, definitely. we all thought that we are going to die in that gallery on january six. but how close our democracy cam. and now that the january six committee has laid all of this information public, we've actually seen video footage, the hallway that i was evacuated out of on the third floor, i docked into an elevator with a policeman that bravely saved our lives, those insurrectionists were in that very hallway 30 seconds after we docked into that elevator. and they had big backpacks, they head weapons and bear spray, and who knows what else, what they would've done to us. for members of congress, and i remind, you it was only a four member margin on that date as well. so, if something had happened to us, the american people would not have woken up the next day to the election of joe
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biden, and kamala harris, and our democracy intact. >> yeah, when you dodge something bad like that, it may be lost on people what was so close. i just want to read your own op-ed in the hill. it's what she told us, but the narrative really makes it stand. out suddenly, at 2:42 pm a brave u.s. capitol police officer directed us to evacuate shouting go, go, go, as we scramble across the house gallery, docking under railings and dodging past rows of seats. he risked his life to save ours, just 30 seconds later, the mob reach that hallway, searching for members of congress, determined to thwart the will of the voters and to disrupt the results of the 2020 presidential election. just 30 seconds. that's how close we came that fateful day, not just members of congress, but the american people in the future of our democracy. 30 seconds. >> and those very same actors were involved in the threats to
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our democracy really, this past week, from within the chamber. i mean, we have colleagues, one of which is really an unindicted coconspirator of the january 6th insurrection, who were involved in -- it's a legitimate process, but you have to wonder what their motives. are they're not here to go through. they're here to disrupt our democracy. one are their motivations? how did we sort this out? you talked earlier or about the ethics committee, how -- sworn in last night, you mentioned the pathological liar who was sworn in last night. this is how desperate kevin mccarthy was to try to get those votes. >> it's remarkable. one of the things, look we're in a profession in journalism sometimes we find ourselves in danger, but never at the hands of our own colleagues, or never with the encouragement of our own honda leaks.
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something like that had happened here at nbc, i may not be able to return to work, i don't know how i would be able to think about that. you go back into this place of work, and you have to look into the whites of the eyes of those people you just talked about. many of your colleagues who worked on that floor with you. i've got to imagine that there's an element of ptsd involved in this. well, absolutely. i should say i have been public about this myself. >> we were so terrorize that day. we did think that we were going to lose our lives. the pounding on the door, the shouting out in the halls. i, and many of my colleagues thought that the first people that broke into the chamber would have had automatic weapons. and so we were laying on the floor, hiding behind that railing before the policeman shouted go, go, go, go, and we had to run across and dock those railings. so, we have had, what my colleague jason crow who's an army ranger told us was really
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a combat experience. many of us were physically exhausted for several days after work from the adrenaline coursing through our bodies. and several of us did experience ptsd. i myself couldn't sleep for a long time. i had at night terrors. you know, we got the treatment we needed, we feel better now, but yes, it's very challenging to have gone back to work in that chamber to be in that chamber together and to try and work together. our country needs us to move forward together, and the incoming chair, the new democrat coalition, we are the hundred or so democratic members most likely to be working with our colleagues across the aisle, but we have to sort through who are the responsible republican members who want to move the country forward. who want to govern, and clearly there's a group that is hijacking that party who have no intention of governing. >> and we spoke to andrew
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carver arena this morning, a republican of new york who expressed frustration with the fact that there's a group that is hijacking that effort. thanks so much for being here, we're glad you're feeling better after this. that was quite a day, two years ago that we will never forget. but we hope we heal. from >> thank you so much, ali. >> any customer, out of new hampshire. the heroes who up -- president biden has decorated 14 americans with one of the nation's highest civilian honor, we'll give you their stories, next, on velshi. next, on velshi.
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an inflection point in our nation's history. on january six, is a reminder, there is nothing guaranteed about our democracy. >> on the two year anniversary of the january 6th insurrection, president joe biden awarded one of the nation's highest civilian honor to 14 people who helped uphold democracy. he awarded the presidential citizens medal to a group of law enforcement under -- whom he called heroes some of the choices were obvious like the police officers who literally put their lives on the line that day. that includes three officers who received the award posthumously. the late brian sicknick, howard liebengood, and jeffrey smith. after receiving -- election workers who help protect the integrity of the 2020, election despite efforts at the highest levels to overturn the results, including
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ruby freeman and sheamus, the mother and daughter pair who served as election workers in fulton county, georgia, and faced threats for simply doing their jobs. >> they were forced from their homes, facing despicable racist taunts, but despite it all, ruby freeman and shea moss found the courage to testify openly and honestly to the whole country and the world, about their experiences. set the record straight about the lies, and defended the integrity of our elections. presumptions of me, but i'm so proud of you both, i'm proud of you both. >> michigan's newly reelected secretary of state joscelyn -- was also awarded the presidential citizens medal metal, will speak to her tomorrow morning on bought, it will be right back. ght back
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on what was happening on the world, because all of our coverage is evolved on the vote for house weaker and much going on in washington. i want to catch up on a few international stories that you may have missed, according to local media reports, today iran executed two more months for convicting up allegedly killing a paramilitary volunteer during public demonstration. it is executions continue on the ongoing months-long protests that broke out after the death of a 22-year-old woman, masala meanie, who died after being detained by the iranian morality police by violating the nations compulsory hijab. law to public protesters were also publicly executed last month. according to the group, human rights activists in iran, at least 517 people have been killed since the start of the conflict, including 70 children, and at least 26 people are at risk of execution. meanwhile, benjamin netanyahu's administration, yeah he's back, is already making headlines after he was sworn in for his sixth term last month. the prime minister's hard right coalition has promised to
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expand and expedite settlements which have systematically displaced palestinians. this past week, his new national security minister's joe tension when he visited the holy site known by jews as the temple mount. it's a location that has long been disputed. it's considered sacred to jews, muslims, and christians. since israel took control of the company 1967, there's been a delicate says quote starting visiting and prayer rights. the disruption of that has including the -- varying backlash from the visit, you couldn't oceans security council held an emergency session on thursday in an effort to ease tensions. of course, the global chaos is not relegated to just outside our borders. the racial group is out with its annual list of top geopolitical risks facing the global order. we'll give you scoop on what's at the top of that list, just next. list, jus next (einstein) i got what i paid for. not so smart. (cecily) nah, you're still a genius. but, there is a smarter way to save. (einstein) oh?!
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administration announced a new round of a two crane, nearly three billion dollars. as a large's package yet, including its commitment to send its powerful bradley fighting vehicle's. ukraine expert said the availability of the brother vehicles is going to be a game changer marching a major military boost for kyiv as russia's unprovoked invasion of ukraine nears its 11 month mark. a new report by the eurasia group has deemed the rogue russia as the world's topped
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geo political risk of 2020. russia ushered in the new year with its highest death toll yet since the conflict began after a ukrainian strike killed dozens of russian troops in the occupied ocean city of makiivka, shortly after midnight on new year's day. on friday, ukrainian forces exchange fire with russian soldiers, even as moscow said it had called for a 36-hour unilateral truce to observe orthodox christmas this weekend. ukraine rejected the truce calling it a stunt by moscow to buy time to reinforce its struggling troops. the erasure group -- a quarter of russia will likely become more dangerous, quote accumulated did russia will turn from a global claire -- >> this is an annual report. we talked about it on the show
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every year. it was issued this week and it warns that russia's war against ukraine can become an even bigger problem for the west as the kremlin looks to expand its aggression toward its nato allies. the report adds that russia will likely shift its focus to nato resorting to asymmetric warfare in the form of cyber attacks on western firms and governments. that could mean disruption to oil pipelines, western satellites, to other infrastructure as well as global elections. joining me now, president finder of the racial group and cheese or media is the author of the power crisis and other books. and of course, the support that we are just talking about. my friend, good to see, you have been new york to you, look it's an obvious decision but what your report points house is not the obvious thing that itch just one country's invasion of another country's sovereign. land it's much more complicated than that --
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>> that's, right when we call russia a rogue state, which was not true a year ago we're talking about it becoming a principle security concern not just for ukraine, obviously, but for the entire west for all of nato. think about, it that's what iran, which is the last most powerful rogue state we've had to deal with has been with the middle east, it's been espionage, john attacked, cyberattacks, proxy warfare, terrorism. that's precisely what got -- its way brought israel to gather its were brought to geopolitics the region. that's exactly what's happening in the west today -- nato shongaloo countries are joining but you also increasingly have not just a cold war against russia but an actual proxy hot war against russia as the russians are unable to achieve any of their military goals on the ground in
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ukraine which will be true in 2023. indeed, russia increasingly faces economic, diplomatic isolation. they have virtually no friends in the world of course except iran. that war will not be contained to ukraine. you're right, ali, there's no way you can make that anything but the top risk in 2023. >> you spent time in moscow. you know a lot about this topic. but you are really also a china expert, often, china you know makes it close to the top of this list except i think china is watching what's going on in russia, particularly as it relates to taiwan and saying, we don't want the world -- maximum sheet, tell me what you mean by the? >> well, you're absolutely right, ali. they risk around china this year is not about confrontation with the united states. in fact, that and the taiwan risk are actually red herrings on the list.
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what's interesting about china's here is that domestically, she jinping is the most -- what is up in a position we -- massive mistake in judgment which she is also planning him self with yes men. he no longer has himself. he doesn't have any checks and balances on his decision, and that allows for big mistakes to be made on the ground in china. we just saw one of them of course, with the move from zero covid two maximum covid. and the implications of that for the rest of the world when china once again become the epicenter of the global pandemic, but with no transparency in terms of caseload and new variants as they emerge, that's quite dangerous given how important the chinese economy is for the entire world and the ability of xi jinping to make a whole bunch of domestic mistakes like that with global implications
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is pretty significant in a way that it wasn't when she jinping first took power ten years ago. i got left than a minute left,, and i want to check in the brain your list after what we saw last night having been up most of the night, the divided states of america. >> >> besides that is only number. a keep in mind, ali, this list is on the basis of impacts, imminence, likelihood. the fact that the united states is that fourth on the list in place it's really not as much of a risk factor. the idea of a constitutional crisis hitting the united states in the near term is really off the table now, especially given the fact that the secretary of state and governor positions that could have been won by people who were prepared to break a 2024 presidential election, all of them lost. that actually shows a level of resilience. that's the self relying on this list this year, and i'm glad to talk about. it recalling to have one of the, jocelyn benson, the forefront of that effort to hold democracy on the show tomorrow. great to see you. thank you, and thanks for a little bit of good new
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