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headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone to alex witt reports. we begin this hour's with some breaking news and new reaction to that chaos on the house floor last night. and california congressman, kevin mccarthy, turbulent climb to the speakership. florida congressman, matt gates, and heated moments leading the charge to mccarthy with colorado's, lauren boebert. while jurors, marjorie taylor greene reportedly got on the phone with donald trump at the
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end of it all, gates talked with reporters about what mccarthy ally, mark rogers said to him during the exchange. >> something about real todd, i don't know. don't know >> roll republicans, are now looking ahead at the concessions mccarthy made to far-right rebels in the gop, hoping this would not be the new normal in the house. >> and we go right now to nbc's, julie tsirkin, on capitol hill. julie, welcome, you caught up with the new speaker just moments ago, what did he say?
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>> yeah he was here, my ego producer spotted the entering his because office right on the homeland standing. when i was talking to, last, are a night he was just in jeans and a vest, very casually, take a listen to what he told me when i pressed him for how he's feeling and whether he has the votes for the rules package on monday, watch. >> mister speaker, how are you feeling after. >> really great. >> are you confident that the rules package then passed on monday? >> do you think you have the votes to pass that, sir? >> so, blood, he told me it's off, give me a break, obviously now he's in line for the presidency so this position will certainly not come from any breaks for him, especially as he tries to get and keep his party together here in the house in order to pass legislation, or do anything here on the floor as we look for to that vote on monday
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night. i thought it was interesting that he didn't comment on whether he has the votes for that rose package. remember, it includes concessions that he made to members, conservative members on the house freedom caucus. some of the far-right, in his party, he did not say whether moderates would be able to accept those concessions and voted for that. it's kind of an open question here on capitol hill. and without that rules package, the really aren't any rules by which he can -- >> actually, i think you can answer the question to julie, because i think he knew the answer to that question you are posing. but a for effort, my intrepid correspondent colleague. thank you so much! let's go from there not to nbc's aly rafah who's at the white house with president biden's reactions to his speaker. when what we're hearing from the president today after that long contentious battle in the house? >> yeah, alex, what president biden left for a quick overnight trip to his home in delaware a few hours before the house reconvened for that final round of votes late last night. but, he, like the rest of us, was watching and waiting adds
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this drama unfolded on the house floor last night. shortly after mccarthy won the speakership, he released a statement congratulating mccarthy saying he's ready to work with him over the next two years. in the statement he says in part quote as i said, after the midterms i am prepared to work with republicans when i can, and voters made clear that they expect republicans to be prepared to work with me as well. president biden, in the statement, highlighting his own trip this week to kentucky with senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell. where both of them touted the bipartisan infrastructure law, and just at the importance of working across the aisle to get things done. president biden saying that now that the house has a speaker, the real work can start. but, alex, you and i both know how difficult that's going to be after house republicans have pledged to use the next two years to really try and stop president biden's agenda to launch investigations into the president himself, his family. one thing that president biden is making good on is something that house republicans, as well
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as senate republicans have slammed him on four really months, and years now, really calling for him to go to the u.s., mexico border to see the crisis there himself. now, we have learned that president biden will help to el paso, texas tomorrow to see that firsthand to meet with border patrol agents, and possibly asylum seekers themselves while in el paso tomorrow. after, that he heads to mexico city for the national leaders summit where he will speak with the mexican president, undoubtedly this immigration crisis to be brought up especially as the -- heavily relies on mexico, who will now be pushed back to mexico, especially in light of these new immigration policies that he will announce this week. >> yeah, that is often going to be the focus for the few days ahead of. us thank you so much for that, ali rafah, let's bring in connor lam, former congressman from pennsylvania. stephanie grisham, former director of communications for first lady, millennia trump.
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mark leibovitz, msnbc political contributor, and staff writer for the atlantic. and hugo lowell, political for the guardian. welcome all. congressman, i will go to you first sir. as a former member of the house, i want to start with your reaction to everything that happened this week. how to speaker mccarthy govern after all of this? >> he can't. i don't think he ever could, anywhere, but one of the things i think was interesting about this week is that there were a lot of people attacking the mccarthy opponents saying, you know, their demands aren't really about anything, this whole fight is about nothing. i don't share that view. i actually think it was about something, they just don't really want the american people to know what it was about, which is that they want to use the debt ceiling to wreck some of our most vital government programs like social security, and medicare, and obviously cause other chaos in the economy. so, mccarthy has signed up to be an agent of all of that, along with them. he's made his bed, and now he's
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going to have to lion air, and we're gonna have to find creative ways to stop him from delivering on the promises he made. >> well, if they do that then mary much have short ten years in congress, that's for sure. but hugo, mccarthy's win was secured after a series of negotiations with the 20 republicans holds out, for what kind of concessions has mccarthy agreed to, and how do you think they could affect his ability to lead the house? >> yeah, look, the principal one is the motion to vacate, right? historically we have had a one member threshold, and that had been changed in recent congresses. mccarthy's red line was originally to have a member threshold. he's have to reduce this to. basically, and no confidence will be a to bring a vote of no confidence. this is really problematic for him. you, know if the business of the house can get derailed at any moment by these freedom caucus members, as freedom
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caucus is done in the previous congress, with various percy joe pardons that motion to adjourn, it can really function and hamper the voting of the majority. so, even if matt gates didn't get the gavel for the subcommittee on house services which is what mccarthy was saying yesterday, i think the fact that he has given away a lot of ground is going to make his speakership a very difficult for him, and the kind of weeks and months ahead. >>, mark i'm looking for a silver lining here. what do the concessions mccarthy made mean for democrats? will they make bipartisanship more difficult, or more likely if mccarthy has to reach across the aisle four votes? i mean, do you first of all see that as ever happening? >> i mean, i think in a sane world that would be the obvious solution for mccarthy, and for the country. i think, unfortunately, what we saw play out last week's and not a sane world and it's not a precursor to the same congress
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by any stretch. i think what would happen, is, first of all kevin mccarthy is not an ideological person. he's someone who has worked across the aisle. he is instinct is to work across the aisle. it certainly was in california, where he comes from, a very blue state. he's someone who's very collegiate, his institutionalist, or he had been up until a few years ago. he is someone whose instinct would be. there but i think the second he does anything with any democrat, if they even mentions a democrat's name in a positive vein, there's gonna be some motion to vacate which he is now vulnerable to from his own party. so, theoretically in kind of an aaron sorkin world this would be an obvious solution, but this isn't gonna happen in the real world. >> yeah, i was kind of channeling the west wing episode anyway. let's move to stephanie. throughout this process, trump maintains support from mccarthy and encourage the defectors to the same. you quit the trump oh brit on january six, and you did it before mccarthy condemn trump
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and then sprinted to mar-a-lago to kiss the ring, is it possible that mccarthy made concessions to trump to get his support, and what do you think they could be if so >> oh, that is a great question that i have not been asked. sure, anything is possible. i think that the last four days have shown us that. i don't know that he was focused with trump on that. it doesn't sound like trump gave a very tepid endorsement of him earlier in the day. i know he was making some phone calls, but i'm not sure there was any horse trading. there i do believe kevin was just so focused on trying to wrangle this caucus of his. >> okay. what about you congress men lamb. because look at before the final vote. the tensions wouldn't all-time. hi let's took a -- between gop congressman mike rogers and matt gates. -- as you can see, rodgers, right there he is having to be held back by congressman, richard hudson. during your time in the white house, you witnessed a similar
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commission. a huge argument broke out the day after the capitol riot in response to a speech that you made on the house floor. i'm in, is this kind of becoming the norm for the new congress? >> yeah, it was two years to the minute almost that that same thing happened. and they couldn't show our tussle on c-span because of the rules, but, i wouldn't say it's becoming the norm. we did go two years basically without one. this has to be unusual in the sense that it's two members of the same party going at each other. at least on the original january six, it was democrats versus republicans in the trial, so it is a little more easy to understand. but the house gop is just now so, you know, divided doesn't even really express it. i mean people like mike rogers that they're in a sinking ship as long as they have matt gates on their side, and that he's going to bring them down, and he's going to make someone like mike rogers worked his whole
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career fort, impossible. so you see the tensions flaring for that obvious reason. this isn't over, it's not going to go away. with this motion to vacate, another way of looking at it is just to say that this whole week of the 15 rounds of voting, that could just start again at anytime now because of the motion to vacate with one member. that's the world we're. and i wouldn't be surprised if we see more of the spots on the floor. >> yeah, certainly extraordinary, in fact. stephanie, as the washington post pointed out, all two of the -- her election deniers. of the 18 deniers, 14 are returning members who -- carl on saying that at one point we need to expect this in the future, but just think it's a reflection of trumpism and it's in during impact on our political system? >> oh, absolutely. that is the easiest question i've had.
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absolutely, yes. i think that this is something to do with trump and you know, he relishes in the chaos, and i think a lot of the members who that are coming back but without we're locked it are relishing it. and do believe that there were a lot of people who elected that were endorsed by trump, that did go the right course, and vote for mccarthy. and i want to say i hope he's successful for the cigar country. i was watching last night, of course, like everybody else, all i could think was, there are other countries watching us and there are some bad actors out there that are salivating over this kind of thing. i share the opinion of the panel that i think this is just going to be the next two years all of this because of that motion to make it. but i also don't know what would've happened any other way. i think any speaker, in order to get elected, would have had to agree with that because of this small group holding people hostage. >> but, stephanie, follow peer because during the speaker about, donald trump tried to use his influence to help mccarthy, but as efforts were shot down by some of trump's
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biggest supporters. let's take a listen together to what congresswoman lauren boebert said on wednesday. >> let's stop with the campaign's mayors, and tactics to get people to turn against us. we've been having, my favorite president call us and tell us we need to knock this off, i think it actually needs to be reversed. the president needs to tell kevin mccarthy that sir, you do not have the votes, and it's time to withdraw. >> it's a clear indicator. did trump's power over the republican party is waning, and as someone who worked in the white house, how do you think donald trump reacted to such a public rejection? >> i think his power is waning. i think that after the midterms, people have seen that the american people voted widely that they want people to work across the aisle and just work on behalf of the country. now, what i meant what i said is trumpism, it's that attitude. it's that attitude of causing chaos, doing things so that you can fund-raise off of it, or
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get a tv personality going. that's the trumpism i was speaking up. i think his power is waning. and i guarantee he was not pleased with what she said on the floor, and i'm just waiting for him to start taking credit, of course, for last night in the fact that mccarthy is now speaker. >> oh yeah, that is coming. congressman lamb, hakeem jeffries delivered an historic and moving speech -- let's take a listen to that. >> we will never compromise our principles. house democrats will always put american values over autocracy. benevolence, over bigotry. the constitution over the -- democracy, over demigods. ergonomic opportunity over extremism, freedom over fascism. >> this comes as the democrats just played unflinching unity during this entire process.
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what to tell us how jeffrey will move as minority leader. >> well just further confirmation that he is the rhetoric. i've been a supportive hakeem's for several years now and it's because he's a unifier. behind closed doors, on the individual member level, and then what the public, he's a very cool under pressure, and a great communicator as you can see. the thing that i think is going to be very important is that akeem has a sense of humor. he also knows how to keep things light in times that are going to be very tough, and that's part of what our caucus has been through a lot in the last two years since january six, especially. the unity that you see is a product of that, and hakeem has been a big product of putting that unity together, and keeping it together. that's why think he's going to be an effective leader, i think he's going to be someone people can look to for the next two years and get a sense of reassurance. >> mark, as we look ahead, what you think is next for this republican-led house. what's going to be the first order of business? >> well, getting the rules
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package passed which from the silence and the report leading up to this it looks like, i mean, mccarthy's not answers the volumes there. i don't think that the shore. thing i think we're going to see, as congressman loma secca, this is a precursor to a lot of this playing out. i think another thing you're going to see is president trump is going to be reminding people, all the time, that he made this possible for kevin mccarthy. there seems to be a lot of pressure from trump and his supporters to have mccarthy be endorsed by him, and not long desantis, his former colleague. i'm guessing all of this will begin fairly soon because that e orbit around this party has now chosen its leaders in the last couple of years. so i think we're going to see more of that. >> yeah, okay. hugo i don't have time to go to the details of your article, if you have a chance to come back and talk to us tomorrow about what to expect a --
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with and the ethics bodies that they prepared to investigate the party. it's an excellent article, come back tomorrow, i'll have a book or talk to. in the meantime, i thank you, hugo, mark leibovitz as well, conor lamb, thank you so much, stephanie, not done with you, you are sticking around to talk about your testimony to the january six committee, and the one thing you say makes donald trump afraid. p afraid
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those officers. >> meanwhile, at the white house, president biden honored election officials and police officers with the presidential citizens medal, three of which were given posthumously. he described the attack of a product of lies of the -- ones that trusted moxie remain. >> we face an inflection point in our nation's history. on january six, it's a reminder that there is nothing guaranteed about our democracy. >> and standing or members of congress hid from rioters two years ago, congressman james clyburn who earn the sheet -- and highlighted the strength of american democracy. >> greatness of this country, and the resiliency of our democracy, were put at terror. but, we survived. >> back with, me stephanie grisham, former chief of staff
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to former first lady melania trump. she also served as press secretary, and director of communications to both than president trump, and the former first lady. stephanie resigned on january 6th, 2021 and wrote the book, i'll take your questions now. so, my friend, we've got a few questions for you and here we go about your testimony to the january six committee which is now public. you told him that you were disgusted that trump had told the crowd he would walk to the capitol. here's what you said. he's actually quite terrified of being in danger, the man was not going to march down the street with people, he's afraid of people. so, why were you disgusted, what did you mean by this? >> well, it was often -- he would often say i want to go be with the people, knowing that the secret service wouldn't let him. and that was kind of a bit of a running joke with some of us at the white house. i believe, and the reason that i was discuss it was because i knew that he wasn't going to go walking down there with people. so to me that show that he was just riling them up and getting them, you know, excited to go
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and march to the capitol and cause chaos. i believe he would've if he could've got in the car, and ridden past them and waved, which is what he like to do, but i think he did that just purposely to get people motivated to go. >> and, did he truly believe that the mob wasn't there to hurt him, right? that's why he would've potentially gone to the car? >> well, yeah, remember that he said to people, take those mags down, i don't care if they have weapons, they're not here to hurt me. so, he absolutely didn't think that they would hurt him, but he also doesn't like crowds. he's like germs. he often put down many of his supporters as not very cleanliness, not very sophisticated looking rough. but he liked that they were fighters. so i think his only purpose that day was to egg them on to go to the capitol. >> i've gotta say, a lot of people observed a lot of his supporters, are people he would never let into his mar-a-lago property. i think to your point. let me ask you about what she said.
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while working from home the day, and watching the news coverage, then at 1:25, very early in the targhee, texted melania trump when you asked her, do you want to tweet the peaceful protest of every right but there is no place for lawlessness and violence. and she responded with a quick and very abrupt, no. that shocked you, right? so why. what do you think prompted that response? >> well, i think she knew, at least a little bit of what was going to happen that day, and i think she didn't want to go against her husband and the west wing, which is something she never, ever cared about for the entire four years that we were there. i know, when she just said now, and didn't say what is going on, she claimed that she didn't know what was going on, i know given the other day, i actually think it is in kellyanne conway transcript she said that i should've gone up and explained what was going on. mrs. trump always knew what was going on. there was not a time when she didn't know, you know, what was happening. and the fact that she just responded with no, she did say what's going, on why would i suddenly tweet that out of the
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blue. she, to me, knew what was going on and just didn't care to get involved, which she usually never hesitated to. do >> you also to the committee that melania did not trust don junior, kimberly guilfoyle, mark meadows, giuliani, jason miller, and some others who had access to trump after the election. did she always feel that way, or did something change, and if so, what was it? i mean, was it related potentially to the secret meetings that you say were taking place inside the residence? >> you know, she was always very protective of who was around her husband. she very much like to people who would tell him the truth, tell him he shouldn't do things. and she felt that many of those people that you just mentioned would oftentimes tell him what he wanted to hear. another big thing with her is that she didn't like people profiting off of her husband, or her family. and so when you consider how much of a jason miller has made off of the trump family, or, you know kimberly demanded $60,000 just to introduce the
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president the day of the rally, it was things like that that bothered her. she just wanted people who had his best interest, and the country's best interest at heart around him. and especially towards the end, when you head to sydney powell, and rudy giuliani, jenna allison giving him the advice that they were, she never liked that kind of thing. >> yeah. you say that milan yet typically had an, f the west wing attitude, do you think the change had accounted to also saying no to the incoming lady jill biden. wasn't at one point, melania big on tradition. >> very, very big on tradition. a big ruffle or. again, the entire time i worked there we had a very separate two wings. i didn't have to ask permission to put statements out. we often put statements out, and did things contrary to what the west wing liked. so, the fact that towards the end as she kept asking me, what's the west wing doing, all i can think of is that she knew that they were leaving, she
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knew that she was going to have to go and live at mar-a-lago, or in new york with the president, and not have the buffer of staff between her. and she just wanted to kind of make peace in her family for the after the white house part of their life. >> last question is, why do you think was the final straw for you. ultimately, did you resign because you believe that she had the power to change things, and that she chose not to, or was there more to it? >> well, there was more to it. i had tried to resign a few times prior, and she had always talked me into staying. i was very, very loyal to her. so, at the end, yes what you just hit the nail in the head. i believe she had the power, because if he would have seen that, he would have followed suit. she would've forced the west wing's hand to at least say something sooner. and she knew she had that power, and the fact that she didn't use it really, it really just broke me. but things with mark meadows, at the moment mark meadows came into the west wing as one things really, personally got
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since, no house right now, is it beyond embarrassing, is there a danger to this? >> is there a hypothetical example of something that is on the table that could move the needle, because right, now it feels like groundhog day. >> these folks voting against kevin mccarthy, they're out of things to ask for other than kidneys and lungs. >> and we have come to a moment where you have president joe biden, and marjorie taylor greene is saying the same thing. this is embarrassing. >> i'm sure mccarthy and his allies don't want to continue running the strategy of getting publicly punch in the. face >> we're sitting here in limbo. waiting for the tide to flow, sitting here in limbo, knowing that i have to go, they're putting up resistance, but i know my fate will lead me. on >> forcing america to endure kevin ammunition week for another day. >> i think this next vote will look like déjà vu all over. again >> the house of representatives coming back into session at 10 pm eastern. this evening, to potentially
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end of this now historically an embarrassingly-long election for speaker of the house. >> well, there is one person we can all think for keeping the house mostly in order during this chaotic week, house clerk, charles johnson. >> those agree in their tallies, that the total number of oaks cast is 428, of which the honorable, kevin mccarthy of the state of california has received 216. [applause] >> well, she got a well deserved the bipartisan standing ovation this week for the way that she performed her whirl. her administrative tax taking on new significance in the absence of a speaker, presiding over a severely divided house gop. johnson is the fourth woman, and second black person to hold the role.
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was first sworn in by speaker nancy pelosi, in 2019. she was sworn in again in the wee hours of this morning of my new speaker, kevin mccarthy. job well done. it wasn't only a crazy week for the house clerk. democrats were also tied to their chairs throughout the speakership showdown, unable to govern, unable to be sworn in, unable to attend classified briefings, until the republicans came to an agreement overnight. finally, three days late, the entire congress was sworn into office and one full swoop. joining me now, one of those congressmen, democrat from illinois, raja krishnamoorthi. here we go, after everything you've seen this week, what does it foreshadow for you on the challenges democrats are going to face working with republicans in this congress, particularly with the extreme maga republicans and negotiating now from positions of power. >> unfortunately the chaos of last night, i think gives more chaos.
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especially on imported issues, such as the debt limit, raising the debt limit, avoiding government shutdowns, and so forth. i have to say, the other thing is, my son, a few years ago asked me, what's a swearing in. he said what swear words are you gonna be using hit this event. and last night, i gotta tell you, the f bombs were full lyre. i was in the scrum mere matt gates and kevin mccarthy, and then mike rogers. and, i have not seen any scenes like that on the floor of the house in my time in congress. i hope not to see that again. >> while. i can just about imagine. well the fact is the former president license that all kind of language publicly and privately. having said that, kevin mccarthy, he has made at the significance concessions to the holdouts to keep his position. the framework includes just one
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member to call for a vote to remove the speaker anytime. it makes it harder to increase spending. to deal with the taxes, the debt limit, and reportedly offered some prime spots on some key committees to freedom caucus members including on the rules committee. so, first of all, why would mccarthy concede on allowing one person from either party in power to force a motion to vacate. how can this broader concessions impact the house's ability to govern this congress? >> well, i think it would negatively impact the governing ability of its congress. i think that the fact is that he was more willing to negotiate with these holdouts, these hostage takers, people like matt gates and others, then he was to arrive at any kind of compromise or negotiating rules practice with the democrats, which would have made the house a much easier place to do business.
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ed, opened probably, one other anecdote, i was there when marjorie taylor greene was actually received that phone call from donald trump, asking to speak with one of the holdouts, matt rosendale. and, it was a bizarre surreal scene in which matt rosendale, one of the holdouts, refused even to speak with donald trump. and so, you're in a situation where it's not really clear who can reason with these people, and so it's just going to be -- over and over again, which is obviously bad for our country. >> let me ask you, relative to donald trump, do you feel, based on the experience you witnessed, and the call with marjorie taylor greene not even being able to get through to that congressman, do you think that his power has waned of the republican party, and is that a good thing because someone has to fill the void. it depends who does fill that void on how difficult it will
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be going forward. >> yeah, i think his power has waned. as you can see from that very request to speak with a member. i don't think trumpism has waned. i think it's grown. i think there is a certain, as you know, craziness associated with different positions, of course there's the xenophobia, and the discrimination and intolerance, and indeed the embrace of political violence that stems from trump-ism. so while i think donald trump's influence as an individual has waned, i think trumpism has become its own thing within the party, and i think that animates that base, that crazy set of people that are this tiny minority to whom those holdouts, in some cases, or their allegiance. and so we are in for tough times if kevin mccarthy is going to continue to curry
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favor with those people instead of trying to do the business with the country and working with democrats. >> well, let me get to a serious note on that then, because one major point of contention is mccarthy's deal with fiscal conservatives of preparing efforts to raise the debt ceiling with spending cuts. how problematic could this become when it is time to raise the debt limit. are you worried the u.s. could actually default on its debt? >> yes, if he goes through with this and he's not willing to be reasonable about this, absolutely. just to understand, or, i mean i think you already understand, this interview was probably already understand this already, what they are proposing to do is basically mandate cuts in destruction airy programs, as well as social security, and medicare, to offset increases in the debt limit. as you know, those are requirements that are
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consistently unpopular and go against the will of the american people, both democrats, and republicans. so, if he intends to tie the two together, and increasing the debt limit with cuts, massive cuts that can threaten our economy, then we're in for a real disruptive session. >> okay, illinois democrat, and front office, roger krista murphy. happy new year, -- the new hope for patients fighting alzheimer's after the break. break. next in life. for her. i may not be in perfect health, but i want to stay in my home, where my family visits often and where my memories are. i can do it with help from a prep cook, wardrobe assistant and stylist, someone to help me live right at home. life's good. when you have a plan. ♪ ♪ >>, police in virginia say a
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bracing for yet another bout of extreme weather. justice and power outages that have been rolling the region since new years eve. meteorologists are forecasting heavy rain and mountain snows beginning this evening in some areas, rainfall totals could reach seven inches by tuesday with even more predicted in the hills. nbc's got cohen is joining us now from capitola california which has seen some of the most dramatic damage thus far. so, i mean, capitola, scott isn't used to this much severe weather, right? >> no, absolutely not. alex this is supposed to be rainy season but what happened
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this past week, with the latest wave of severe weather, it was not just rain, but also high winds and all happening at high tide was the worst possible combination for this seaside village which it has just been decimated. you can hear the cleanup going on. you can see behind me, there's a row of beach side restaurants that all been taking out of commission. some of them structurally unsound. as they try and cleanup from this, before the next wave of severe weather comes in. one of the things that shows you just how powerful this is, if you take a look at the historic capitola wharf. it's been around since the 1850s, and it now has about a 30-foot chunk just taken right out of it. again, as they talk about how they're going to rebuild this. so, yes, rainy season is common, here but nothing like this. >> i've been here over 20, years i've never seen kind of the storm that we saw.
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so that was -- it was a lot of water those coming in a. so, yes, the wharf did 16 pretty significant damage and so like i said, i'm not sure, that hasn't been like in the priority for us right now, really the priorities getting our residences and businesses back up. >> and all of this as yet another wave of severe weather threatens the. state works electing more rain going into tonight, and then a bigger system coming in on monday and tuesday. this is affecting the whole state. 16 million people now, at risk for floods through tuesday, and into wednesday. the issue here is sort of a cumulative effect. the ground is saturated. any bit of winds can topple trees, and trigger mudslides in areas that are burned by the wildfires last. year a lot of concerns here, alex, since new year's eve, six people have died in the storms
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that are in the republic of california. and still, not enough to alleviate our record drought. alex? >> that is extraordinary. okay scott, thanks to a heads up on all of. it will and that's been there for maybe four of, one on alex, porcelain tomorrow noon eastern my friend cory continues our coverage. es our coverage directly on the nerve. i recommend sensodyne. sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. and my patents say: “you know doc, it really works." i'd like to thank our sponsor liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. when you're through with powering through, it's time for theraflu hot liquid medicine. powerful relief so you can restore and recover. theraflu hot beats cold.
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