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we have got lots of news to cover, lots of questions to answer, so let's get started. president biden just hours away from his first trip to the southern border, after announcing new immigration programs. we are live on the ground in el paso, texas, with the latest. plus, speakership fallout. kevin mccarthy's battle to win the gavel, laid bare, deep divisions within the party. and a possible opening for democrats. we will explain as we look ahead to another crucial house vote tomorrow. and, bombshell revelations, leaked from prince harry's upcoming memoir, less than a month after getting personal in a netflix docuseries. what is his endgame? all of that and more is coming up. and, a good sunday morning to you, i am katie fang. we got brand new details on president biden's first trip to

the southern border since taking office. the white house says biden will use today's trip to call in congressional republicans, to fully fund his request for border security resources, and to stop locking comprehensive immigration reform. the trip comes after biden unveiled a new immigration policies just last week. for more on all of us, which is nbc news correspondent dave gutierrez, live in el paso, texas. good morning, gave. katie, good morning. by all indications, this is a humanitarian crisis with no easy answers, katie. and behind me is the sacred heart church, outside of it, you see dozens of migrants who are sleeping here outside, in very cold temperatures. we were here several weeks ago. the numbers were much higher than. the white house says because of recent enforcement actions, that migrants crossing of dropped 70% since mid december. but critics of the biden administration say that it's lax border policies, as they

see it, are continuing to encourage migrants like these to come to the southern border. nbc news has obtained video of migrants here outside this church, being arrested last week. and migrant advocates say that was inhumane, that the customs and border protection officers were coming here and arresting these migrants who are seeking asylum. however, cbc released an statements to abc news saying they increased enforcement, and many arrests they have undertaken have been migrants who have invaded apprehension in the first place. now, katie, yesterday they were protests here in el paso, protesting these policies announced last week, that the biden administration announced. the biden administration says that it will expel up to 30,000 migrants from haiti, cuba and nicaragua as well as take in 40,000 migrants, those who apply through the proper

channels. that is what the biden administration, katie, has been facing for the last two years. it has faced criticism that its border policies have not been spelled out enough, that there's been an increase, record number of border apprehensions, about 2.6 million last fiscal year. so now, president biden is said to come here to el paso to tour a port of entry later today, according to the biden administration officials, as well as tour a migrant processing center. not scheduled to come here to see these migrants, this has been the epicenter of the migrant center for at least the last couple of years, but still significant, this will be the presidents first trip to the border since taking office, katie. >> our thanks to you, gabe gutierrez live in el paso, texas. coming up on the show, i will speak with former senior adviser to the biden campaign, cristobal alex, that president biden's plan to tackle the border crisis, whether he has

hope for a larger, more comprehensive immigration reform in the new republican controlled house. now, we turn to washington, and the beginning of 118th congress. after all of the drama over the 15 ballots because ship vote, everyone is left wondering, will every major bill in the house be that tightly contested? that includes tomorrow's crucial vote on the new house rules package. it was a major focus of the republicans who ran mccarthy through the wringer last week. so are we in for another drawn out fight within the gop? here's congressional correspondent, julie smirking with more. >> you morning, katie. that is exactly right. mccarthy might have won the speakership after 15 rounds, but tomorrow, the house will come back to try to pass that rules package. remember, it's full of concessions that mccarthy had to make to the far right of his party, in order to get their support. it includes things like a motion to vacate any one member can essentially call for a no confidence vote from mccarthy,

challenging his speakership for the next two years. when he left the building, he did say he will keep that gavel 1000%, that was his quote. but it will be challenging. the speakership vote and this rules package or things that congress needs to do at the beginning of every new congress. they are supposed to be the easy parts, as one member told me. this is shaping up to be a big fight over the next two years. not just on the rules package, if he's able to secure those moderates now, but also on everything they need to do. remember, democrats still control the senate. they will need to do some must pass items, like passing a debt limit increase to the debt ceiling for money that was already spent, republicans already saying we will not help democrats out on that one. also things to keep the government open. democrats are now afraid that out these concessions that mccarthy made, he will be a weakened leader, and essentially fall to the demands the far-right of his party. katie, remember, he can only afford to lose four seats in the house. this will be really challenging for him as he tries to play

both sides, both the moderates and the foreign rights, to see if he can get anything done at all over the next two years. >> our thanks to julie tsirkin in washing jim, do you see. at least one house republican already on record saying, we could see this kind of dysfunction on the floor, every week. so, my question is what is the plan for house democrats in the face of this chaotic new status quo? coming up, i will ask congresswoman sarah jacobs, the youngest member of democratic house leadership. and this morning, a virginia community is searching for answers as police continue their investigation into a six-year-old, who they say intentionally shot his teacher. that teacher, now identified as abby zwerner, is recovering in the hospital. nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin has the latest. >> gotta get response force out with gun at return elementary school, acknowledge. >> newport news, virginia, a six-year-old under arrest.

a teacher critically wounded, and parents are terrified. >> what i hear active shooter, i think, my baby is the first thing, it my baby is right there. and then you hear that it is a baby that did this and all i can think is, how? why? >> isabella moore was one of the parents who scrambled to the school to make sure her kindergartner was okay. >> it is terrifying. you have hysterical parents everywhere who do not know what to do. and until you get your kid, we got there okay. >> police allege the boy attentional fired a handgun in class, shooting his first grade teacher, following an altercation. the teacher, identified by her alma mater as abby zwerner. >> she was struck in the upper shoulder, and there was an injury to her hand as a result of the bullet as well hitting her hand, in the upper torso area of her body. >> how is she doing now? >> we have reports she is in

stable condition after coming out of surgery. >> police are not naming the boy, who is now in custody. the investigation is ongoing. >> do you know how the six-year-old got a gun on campus? >> like many schools today, we do have meadows attackers every day when we walk into a school house. that's something we have to weigh. >> do you feel safe sending your kids to school? >> no, no. i do not. that is sad because, it is only the start for them. they have many more years to go. >> erin maclachlan, nbc news. >> and our thanks to erin maclachlan for the latest on that shooting. now, to some good news. buffalo bills safety damar hamlin thanks fans's first public comments since collapsing on the field, monday night. hamlin posted on social media saying prayers from his supporters are making him stronger on his road to recovery. doctors say the nfl star continues to make progress, but

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last few days, speaker kevin mccarthy and his party will walk a tightrope with every vote over the next two years. we are on the eve of another preview. tomorrow, the house is set to vote on its own rules package. that vote could be more dramatic than last week's speakership race. after mccarthy made a series of

concessions, that some say could frankly make the house ungovernable. those concessions include allowing any one member to force a motion to vacate, and potentially overthrow the speaker. the agreement also makes it harder for the house to respond taxes, and a crucial debt limit. and according to congressman scott perry, mccarthy agreed to a members of the far right flank to keep committees. all of this raising questions about whether the gop is interested in governing, and i democrats plan to respond. the perfect person to have these questions addressed to, california congresswoman sarah jacobs joins us. she is the youngest member of democratic house leadership, representing members who have served five terms or less. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this morning. first off, congratulations on actually getting sworn in. i know that was a little bit of a feat last week. that's what i have to ask, tomorrow, we have a vote on the rules package. what are your thoughts on what is in their? what are you expecting to take

place tomorrow? >> thank you. it is my second term and my parents have still never seen you sworn in in person. so, maybe next term we will have a more normal swearing in day. we know that kevin mccarthy mortgage the speakership, and the governing of the house to the far right to be able to get the votes to become speaker. we know of some of the deals he made, there are many more we still do not know about. so i know house democrats will be united in opposing the rules package, that will make the house ungovernable. and kevin mccarthy can only lose four votes to get it passed. we know that there are some moderate republicans who are saying they will not vote for it. so i think that it will be another very interesting day on the floor tomorrow. but you know, at the end of the day, this is not just about this political gain. there are very real consequences to us not being able to get anything done in the house. i am concerned over what this

means for the next two years. >> i am glad you brought up looking forward, right? we do have two years under house gop majority leadership in the house. how much optimism do you keep, that the house led by this particular republican party, because let's be clear, it is this particular group of folks, do you have any optimism that you will get actual governing done? of course, there is some satisfaction they are so disorganized, and totally chaotic. but to your point, americans need work to be done. they need to make sure there is food on the table, that things are done. what is your optimism going into the next two years? >> you know, i am not counting on the republicans to be able to get anything done. i think the one potential positive is that some of the rules they have put in place, that they say will be put in place make it easier for democrats to be able to get things done. for instance, they are changing the rules on what is called a discharge petition.

that means anyone who can get enough signatures could make a bill come before, and we only need for republicans to vote with us. so i think they have also talked about having open amendments on the floor, so we will have to vote on things and be able to change bills in realtime. so i think there will be opportunities for democrats to make sure that the basic functions of government, like the debt limit, like the government spending will get done and working with our partners in the senate. it will be a hard road and we certainly can't count on the republican majority to do it. >> let me ask you a follow-up question. do you have optimism, i'll use moderate in quotes, but the more moderate republicans not part of that far-right caucus, you you think they will actually be willing to break rank, come over and vote for democrats? >> i think there are enough. remember, we only need four of them that understand that some of these stakes are really, really high.

we are talking about the default of the united states government on our debt. these are very real consequences. i think they will be enough who will be willing to make sure these things get done. >> politico is reporting, congresswoman, there is a proposed subcommittee to look into the quote, weaponization of the federal government. that will be empowered to review ongoing criminal investigations. this is actually going to be a subcommittee operating under jim jordan's kind of control, in the offices of jim jordan. obviously, this will happen what donald trump is the subject of multiple criminal probes, being overseen by special counsel jack smith. what is the democratic strategy to combat this? >> you know, look. elections have consequences. at the end of the day, they do have the majority. they won't be that much we can do to stop the actual investigations from taking place. we will try to stand up every place we can. frankly, i never thought we would say this, but thank goodness for the united states senate and the fact that they never let anything from the

house actually get done. i think the most important thing we can do is continue focusing on what the american people elected us to do, continue focusing on the cost of living. like for my constituents in san diego, the cost of childcare, housing, health care. we saw that the candidates in the election who were talking about hunter biden's laptop and all of these things, they were not the most successful. i think there will be a real price to pay for republicans for focusing on these silly investigations, that are frankly bogus, instead of what the american people needed. >> but those election deniers, the ones who focused on the hunter biden laptop absurdity, they are the ones who held kevin mccarthy hostage, right? they are the ones who had it to gain these concessions from mccarthy. so in a weird way, a lot of them were unsuccessful in their runs for office, the more prominent ones that we see, mtj, lauren boebert, and matt gaetz,

they still control some of those power levers. so what do you think, you see that small faction, frankly of i think insurrection, seditious conspirators, do you think they will be able to still have that influence and power sweeping out to the rest of that party? >> oh, absolutely. i don't think it should be ignored that on the anniversary of january six, it was the very same people who helped foment the big lie and encourage the violence, the ones who got the concession from kevin mccarthy to make sure that he became speaker. so he has mortgage this republican majority and his speakership to the far-right. they are going to have extreme power, specially based on the concessions that we already know of, let alone the ones we don't know of. i think we should all be very concerned about what this means. on the other hand, again, but democrats still control the senate, democrats control the white house. the worst of what they are going to try to do is to be tried to be able to be stopped, frankly, if they want to make

all of their members take votes on the extreme policies that they are pushing, frankly, we would welcome the american people actually seeing just how extreme this republican majority is. >> i guess it ends up being on the congressional record. congresswoman sarah jacobs, congratulation again on actually getting sworn in after last week's debacle. we are looking forward to your leadership, we appreciate you taking the time to join us this morning, thank you. >> of course, thank you for having me. >> and up next, more on president biden's first trip to the southern border, and why the timing is so critical. cristobal alex, former senior adviser to the president biden campaign joins me next. gn joins me next

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office to assess enforcement operations and to meet with federal, state and local officials. the visit comes on the heels of tougher enforcement policies from his administration on illegal border crossings. one of these new policies stop people from nicaragua, cuba and haiti from applying for asylum if they enter from mexico illegally. but it also increases the number of legal pathways for some migrants. this, following record-breaking migration at the southern border this year. u.s. customs and border protection tracked over 233,000 southern border encounters in november, one of the highest monthly totals ever, and an increase of over 40% for november, 2020. although the white house does say that the number of people attempting to cross the border are lawfully in el paso, specifically, it's now down by over 7% since mid december. this is all happening as the administration seeks to end title 42, a trump era policy

that quickly expelled asylum seekers at the border for alleged public health reasons. the supreme court will hear oral arguments related to a case in title 42 in march. for more on all of this, i'm joined by former senior adviser to the biden campaign, and the former president of the latino victory project, cristobal alex. cristobal, it's always a pleasure to have you here, especially on this important topic. i am understanding you, yourself will be in el paso for biden's visit to the border. talk about the significance of this visit. >> good morning, katie. great to be back on with you. it really is an important visit, both symbolically, also from a policy perspective, as you laid out. i am from el paso, this is the city of immigrants, a welcoming city. folks in el paso have a very different view, a more nuanced view about immigration than a lot of people in washington, or even the state capitals have. it's really based on yes, we need security at our border, but it is also about the

humanity of it all. a lot of these migrants aren't running for their lives, they are asylum seekers. and the description on the statue of liberty really means something. el paso has a complicated relationship with immigration. remember, this is where donald trump launched his cool family separation policy, where they started first ripping babies from the arms of their mothers. this is where donald trump gave a speech talking about the hispanic invasion, which they were echoed by a mass murderer who drove ten hours to el paso to commit one of the worst hate crimes in memory, killing 23 latinos and immigrants. so the city is ready to welcome the president, for him to deal with this very complicated and important issue. >> i mean, let's be clear. title 42, as we noted, a trump era policy. you mentioned the significance of el paso in terms of trump era policies. biden has tried to use his administration to the doj to lift title 42, the supreme court has declined to do so, which is why that case will be

heard. now, biden has new immigration policy, cristobal, of immediately turning away cubans, haitians, nicaraguans and venezuelans who crossed the border illegally from mexico. it provides pathways for illegal entry to the u.s., but let's be frank, cristobal. how easy it will be for someone seeking asylum from a country where they are facing harm to their families or to themselves, to apply for asylum? >> that it's a great question. so here is the situation, where you laid out, you have got the president, who went with administration on the first day, introduced a bill for comprehensive immigration reform. they had no luck with this republican congress, only had to take action through the agencies, executive actions. the supreme court has not gone along with that. that's part because of the rightward shift in the supreme court, they have taken power away from other branches and government, even state power. and the result of that is, unable to lift title 42.

this means folks, when they come to the border because of the covid era enforcement are turned away. eventually, it will lift. what it does, i think this new policy will increase the number of folks to apply, the way that they will do it is by using an app on the telephone, modeled on some work that has been done with venezuelan migrants. but that will not happen for a little bit. the other part of this policy is really, when we talk about the difficulty el paso has had with this influx of migrants, they are to a point now where they need support. the other part of the policy, or the president will talk about is a surge of resources for the border, in communities like el paso to help them out. >> cristobal, i have less than a minute left. i did want to ask you, republicans love the campaign on this idea of the problem at the border, but biden has asked republicans repeatedly, help me fix this problem. help me with more comprehensive immigration reform. does it seem like we are at the point where republicans need to either put up or shut up? it is.

at the end of last year, the biden campaign asked for a 4.10 billion dollars, for border support. he came back with less than half of that. they continue to talk about the border, but they shortchange the border. also, they used migrants as political stunts. we have seen greg abbott do that, taking mike and from el paso, dropping them off in front of the vice president's house, in 18-degree weather. these poor families coming from the south, we now see desantis doing the same. remember, the statue of liberty says give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. it does not say, even the migrants to use as political stunts for republican governors who want to be president. >> cristobal alex, looking forward to having you come back and share with us what the experience was like to be in el paso for this biden visit. i appreciate you being here this morning, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> after the break, how division among house republicans could actually work in democrats favor, even with their minority position in the lower chamber. our sunday morning political

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and his republican caucus now have the power. but if any five members of the caucus decide they don't like a bill, kevin mccarthy can't get it passed. unless of course, he gets a little help from democrats. in a new article this weekend, vox breaks down whether

republicans razor-thin majority could actually make democrats more powerful. it points out that republicans would likely needed democratic votes for major issues for americans like raising the debt ceiling. the democrats could also join conservatives on the house rules committee to block or slow bills favored by gop leadership. let's bring in this morning's power political panel. ashley pratte is a political strategist, former republican in contributor to nbc think. and daniel moody is the host of the podcast, woke af and democracy-ish. good morning to both of you ladies, it's always good to have you on. danielle, i love to start with you this morning, we have already seen experience frankly, the kind of dysfunction which comes with republican leadership and control. do you think democrats can actually capitalize on that dysfunction over the next two years? >> yes. i think we have seen hakeem jeffries already do that. i mean, look. democrats are absolutely united behind hakeem jeffries. the stark contrast, katie, we

saw ones kevin mccarthy, after 14 field attempts was finally voted in, as a speaker, he is the weakest speaker that this country has ever seen, that the house has ever seen. it was absolute chaos. and when you saw hakeem jeffries give his speech, right? and literally give us the abc's of democracy, the contrast between the two parties could not be more obvious, right? they are ready to lead on day, one they have an agenda, a plan, right? and republicans, they have chaos, because that's what happens when a vote in insurrectionists as elected officials to government, when you have anti government people deciding they now don't want to run the government, they want to embarrass their colleagues instead. so i think that democrats are absolutely going to capitalize on this, we will see more and more of hakeem jeffries power, as well as leadership, and the really talented freshman class that is in the party as well. >> i mean, actually, let's take you, you are advising moderate republican leadership, i put

moderate in quotes because it is a very relative concept, considering the current gop. but you are advising them on how to handle this particular situation, with that razor-thin majority. do you tell them to prioritize bipartisanship when they can't? >> yes, it is working for biden. i mean, look at what happened during his house speaker fight. biden was out, not on the campaign trail, but at what the senate republican leaders, right? and it looked good. it looked like he was able to get his job done for the american people, and bipartisan fashion through the industry bill. this is what people want to see, they don't want to see what they saw over the last three or four days, in fighting, chaos and violence on the house for. people want to see congress man in congress women going to work for the american people to do the job they were elected to do. so i think obviously, it would benefit democrats if they were to work with republicans in some fashion. obviously, the faction of

republicans, the extremists who were holding this congress as hostage are not willing to negotiate with kevin mccarthy. they have already negotiated what they feel like they can out of this. we know they will continue to hold things up, so now it is up to democrats, i think, to show the american people, we are willing to get to work, ready to work for you. this is how we will do it. it might not be the most popular with some democratic base, but i do think it will win them points overall in the elections moving forward, if they look like they are the party who is willing to play no games and willing to get to work. >> and, danielle, to ashley's point, because you talk about that message of unity, and the strength of that message over the chaotic last few days under gop leadership. should the democrats be thinking about that as well? should they be thinking about that in terms of working on a bipartisan basis to get things done for americans? >> oh, i think democrats always consider working on a bipartisan basis. it is republicans who have no

desire to work with the american people. it is republicans who have created a rhetoric around the democrats, not into their political opponents, but into their actual enemies. it is the republicans, that every time you see them on a stump speech, they are pointing fingers at their democratic opponents and saying that they should be attacked or making jokes about political violence that happened against nancy pelosi's husband. i mean, we have to understand when we talk about bipartisanship, democrats are consistently ready on day one to work on behalf of the american people. but how do you do that with people who are telling you that they, that you are there any? you do not, right? so i think absolutely, you will see democrats deciding to reach across the aisle and work on major issues. do we really think that this republican house will be the one that will pass major legislation when they could not pass a speaker after 14 votes? i do not think so. >> i mean, actually, you mentioned a minute ago about

the fact that president biden has not announced officially, right, that he is running again for office. but people familiar with the plan of all nbc news biden could announce a 2024 reelection bid as early as february. meanwhile, trump support looks like it might be waning. he remains to focus of several criminal investigations. what do you think the early messaging should be, actually, from biden over the next few months? >> we'll, if that infrastructure bill, again, if that was on the campaign to launch his campaign, then i don't know what would be. that picture alone of him showing that he can get something done for the american people, something necessary such as bridges, roads, and standing there with someone like senator mitch mcconnell, who again has shown through all of this that he is willing to play ball as well, i think that is a good sign, a good trend in the right direction for the biden campaign. that will be issued number one. the moderate approach, trying

to get the disaffected republicans who had no association with trump, and do not want to, and may not want to fall in line with the more far right republican party we are seeing trending now, holding a lot of power. biden could really pick up support from again, those disaffected republicans, such as myself will came to vote for biden in the previous election. i really think is campaign strategy worked the first time around, showing it can work because he is able to pass major bipartisan legislation. so i think he really has a good foot in the right direction here, he should utilize that message going forward, he is the president for all people. >> danielle i have less than a minute, last question to you. distracting between republican side of 2024 presidential race and the house, do you think that this big, obvious rift in the gop, especially with that far-right seditious caucus, is what i'm calling it, holding certain folks hostage to get these concessions, do you think

the race for a republican presidential nominee will go down the same way? >> yes i do. i think what we saw last week, katie, is just the beginning and it is scary. i mean, i don't know, i have never seen political but violence on the court of the house, ever. political violence on the rise in this country, ever. what we are in for this year it will be wild, as donald trump tweeted back in january 5th, 2021. i do think that we are in for a lot of crazy, and people need to brace themselves for it. >> my thanks to our sunday morning power political panel, actually pratte oats and danielle moodie, i appreciate you guys helping me launch 2023, thank you for being here. >> coming up, the royal bombshells keep on coming. we will talk to d.c. make andrew about what she thinks is prince harry's endgame. plus, an interesting take from ronald reagan's daughter, who wrote her own memoir. that is up next.

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playwright, jordan bernard shaw. if you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance. well, prince harry is definitely making him proud. this week, he shocked the world with the bombshell smith valiant his updated memoir, spare. the book officially debuts this tuesday, but it accidentally went on sale in spain last week. nbc news got a hold of a copy. let's just say, that the duke of sussex did not hold back. he writes about using cocaine at the age of 17. losing his virginity and tragically, at the moment he found out his mother, princess diana died. he claims in his book that his father did not even hugged him

after telling him the news. harry opens up about his strange relationship as well with his brother, prince william. calling him his beloved brother, but also his arch nemesis. in his book, harry wrote that william pushed him into the ground in a fight over meghan markle. now for a man who claims to want privacy, he is certainly giving the public a very intimate look into his life. in an interview with 60 minutes, harry told anderson cooper he tried to solve things privately, but the palace refused. >> every single time i tried to do it privately, they will be briefings, plantings of stories against me and my wife. my family has never complained, never explained, it's just a motto. it doesn't hold -- >> there's a lot of complaining, a lot of explaining? >> nbc news world commentator daisy mcandrews joins the show again this morning. daisy, my friend. so good to see you. look, i want to talk about harry's motivation, the best we

can do, we are not in his head. he says he wants to remove himself from public eye, but he signed a 20 million dollar book deal. it is a memoir, very telling. and he made money from that netflix docuseries. some critics say it is just about the money, what are your thoughts? >> i don't think it's just about the money, i think when you read some excerpts being translated from the spanish sale, you can see it's about so much more than the money. it is about deep, personal pain. in some ways, it is about exacting some sort of revenge, maybe that word is too strong. but he wants to put his point of view, his side of the story forward. he feels he has not had that opportunity. the trouble is, in doing, that he's causing huge trouble to his family. it's difficult to see at this stage, have a damage can be repaired, particularly, the relationship with his brother william, which he does seem to have blown up in a number of chapters throughout this book, painting him as an aggressor,

as someone who is not only pretty violent, attacking him in this infamous dog bowl incident, but constantly picking on him. there is a theme throughout the book of harry feeling jealous, feeling less valued than his brother, railing against the prime agenda, or the elder brother gets everything, and the other gets very little. >> daisy, at the beginning of harry and meghan's split from the royal family, it seems there was a lot of public empathy for the couple. the financial times published this data, showing that their popularity has dropped after their docuseries aired. harry's to the biggest hit in terms of his popularity, which is risking his valuation, and -- of it back home? i can give you an update on those figures. >> just today, here in the uk, there was a yougov poll, which was taken, a snap poll taken of harry and meghan's popularity

after some of those revelations came out on thursday, friday last week. and both of their popularity has continued to plummet. let's look at the figures. back in 2017, harry had an 81% popularity rating, as of today, it's down to 26, 81 to 26. he lost ten or 15% just in the last few weeks. megan, just shy of 50% popularity back in 20%, she's down to 23. again, she lost about 10% popularity rating. you see this is having a lot of impact. so when you dissect those figures, it is interesting. it's a generational difference. jen z, as we call them, they are much more pro-harry and meghan, but still not getting 50% of that population's popularity. so they have taken a knocking. >> i mean, he talked a few minutes ago, daisy, about harry wanting to put his point of

view out there, in the intro, you mentioned patty davis, the daughter of president ronald reagan wrote an op-ed in the new york times, writing she regrets writing her memoir. she says naively, i thought if i put my own feelings and my own truth out there for the rotary, my family my understanding better. of course, people don't generally respond well to being embarrassed and expose in public. harry said he wanted to rebuild his strained relationship. but daisy, at this point, in light of everything that was in this memoir, do you think things are beyond repair? >> so interesting, that article. i mean who knows better than the goldfish bowl you even for the daughter of a president? we have seen it with many of the big american families. they are like american royal families. they live under the same pressures. i think it is really interesting she said that, that she bitterly regretted writing the book. and i do think that harry might regret it as well. it's almost like he wants to be

a disruptor in the way that we understand how that word works, in the boardroom, in business, you can't treat a family like a business, even if it is the royal family, because it is the emotions, love, bitterness and regret are all mixed in there. and i do think that he might find william, we know william cannot retaliate, it is not within his wheelhouse, if you would like. he might eventually sit down and do an interview. ironically, that was the one thing that harry and william vowed they would never do after they watched their parents ripping each other to shreds during the divorce, when they both sat down in those infamous interviews. they made a vow to each other they would never do that. harry has now got four interviews coming out in the next 24 hours. goodness knows what other mud he will be throwing? so you can see william might be tended to do his own version, i think that will be a slippery slope to know where, though. >> daisy make andrew, as always,

we thank you for coming and sharing your insight and your analysis as to what is going on with the royals across the pond. we thank you so much for being here. >> my pleasure. >> and we will be right back. t back dshield. [smash] >> dad: it's okay. pull over. >> tech: he wouldn't take his car just anywhere... ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: ...so he brought it to safelite. we replaced the windshield and recalibrated their car's advanced safety system, so features like automatic emergency braking will work properly. >> tech: alright, all finished. >> dad: wow, that's great. thanks. >> tech: stay safe with safelite. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ >> thanks for joining us this

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