right now on "andrea mitchell reports," president biden's summit with the leaders of mexico and canada overshadowed by his own embarrassing controversy over classified documents. his lawyers revealing they found what they call a small number of classified documents in his private office after he left the vice presidency. he notified the national archives and the lawyers

returned them the next day. although, not comparable at all to donald trump ignoring subpoenas and keeping hundreds of classified documents for more than a year at mar-a-lago, the justice department is investigating. trump and republicans are pouncing. this hour, house republicans set up an oversight committee with broad powers to see the nation's top secrets. the justice department's investigations into their own alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election. new questions about the health of brazil's defeated ex-president as calls mount to extradite him from the u.s. who is the talented congressman george santos? new york democratic lawmakers file an official ethics complaint this morning. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in new york. president biden is under attack from donald trump and from house

republicans for the admission that he had classified documents, although very different in quantity and duration, from what donald trump refused to return from his mar-a-lago club. there was another key difference between the cases though. biden's case, the attorneys cooperated by turning them over immediately. that was not the case, of course, with trump and is why the doj raid was approved by a judge. in 2018, joe biden addressed his access to classified information in an interview with me. this was in the context of russia's interference in u.s. elections, and it was in that office. >> i don't have access to classified information anymore. i don't get briefed every morning by the agency. as i did for eight years. >> moments ago in a meeting in mexico city with canadian prime minister justin trudeau, the president ignored shouted questions from the press about those classified documents. joining us now monica alba, ken

dilanian, jonathan lemire and former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. the president ignoring the shouted questions. is the white house planning to respond today? >> reporter: well, andrea, of course this is a big international trip. as so often happens, it can be overshadowed by what's going on back home. this is a prime example of that. the president ignored questions about these documents last night as well. this is now the second time he has had an opportunity to address it. again, when you are sitting next to a world leader or like last night, the mexican president, this is a forum where the white house likely feels they don't want the president to necessarily wade into this complicated issue. i expect what they would say is to lay out some of the differences. the white house has said they are cooperating with this inquiry. they were very quick to point out that on the day that they

learned of these classified documents and where they were located, that they did alert authorities, that they did even inform the president quite soon after that. we know now the president has been aware of this for a couple of months. this happened back in november. when you think about the backdrop and the context of president biden's comments all along when asked about former president trump's handling of classified material, this is a president who said that his predecessor was incredibly irresponsible. again, these are two very different cases. i think that is something the white house, when they do address this, would be talking about as well, in terms of the number of documents. of course, there was no fbi seizure here. what they did as soon as they found out about it. president biden will have another couple of opportunities to see if he is going to respond to reporters. he will deliver statements later this afternoon alongside both leaders of canada and mexico. there could be questions in the

room. that will be probably near the top of the list. this is a president who has always been very clear about this handling of information. remember, as vice president, these are documents related to that, he knew all the security protocols and how to handle some of these. then they would go through the processes after he wrapped up in office to attempt to sort everything out, return it to the archives or wherever it needed to go. this is a team that is very, very familiar with this process. i imagine that the president, when he does answer this, will say that he is going to plan to cooperate through his attorneys with whatever is required. some of the outstanding questions here, we don't know exactly the level of classification and what kind of markings. that will be interesting to know. of this small number of documents, is it one more sensitive than the others? the other major question here, could there potentially be more? what steps has the white house or the attorneys taken to ensure that everything that should be

in its proper place is where it should be. that is the domestic backdrop to what's happening in mexico city with other thorny issues on the agenda. >> ken, they are asking for damage assessment. is that being done? >> we are trying to determine the answer to that question as we speak, andrea. it seems like it's a fair request. it's exactly what democrats have asked in the case of the trump documents. there's a regulation that calls for a damage assessment where there's a suspected breach of classified information to figure out whether sources and methods have been compromised. we don't know -- we haven't determined the nature and extent of the classification here, how serious -- how secret these documents are. we know the white house is saying they discovered them in a locked closet in an office in

the penn biden center six days before the midterm elections. the white house and the president -- joe biden has known about this ever since and has sat on this information until it was leaked and became public through the news media, which raises all sorts of questions on its own. we are able to report that attorney general garland specifically referred this matter to a trump-appointed u.s. attorney in chicago in order to preserve the appearance of independence. that u.s. attorney is reviewing this matter to determine whether a criminal investigation needs to proceed. if that determination was made, presumably, a different special counsel would be appointed. they are not there yet. what we have been told is they have not exonerated anyone or implicated anyone. they are reviewing this matter to determine whether there was any wrongdoing. fundamental questions here, as you know, from covering the intelligence community for a long time, these classified documents don't just appear in places.

particularly highly classified documents, they are given to principals and taken back very often. there's an accounting for them. why is why the trump situation was so bizarre and so outside the norm. even for one or two or ten classified documents to be in a place that's not a place designed to hold them and to be outside of the control of the people who are supposed to take care of those things, it's a very anomalous situation. >> they all have a chain of custody, signatures and the like. the archives knew when the trump documents were missing. called him on it back more than a year ago. barbara, let's talk about the legal implications here. there are administrative penalties, fines that can be made. it rises up to prosecution. that, of course, is what we are waiting to hear about from the investigation into donald trump. from what we know so far, where would you put this? >> of course, facts are going to matter. i'm glad to see a u.s. attorney

appointed by donald trump will investigate the facts. it may be he did everything right. he turned it over and someone in the chain of command is the person who mishandled them. those fact wills matter. i would say, based on what we know, these cases so far appear to be apples and oranges. i would say it's like the difference between an accidental fender-bender and deliberately driving your car into a crowd of people. we know that in the case of joe biden that the national archive effort to wrongfully retain them. when jim comey made the announcement they were recommending against charging hillary clinton, he made the following statement. typically classified information cases are not charged unless there's the presence of aggravating factor.

in the case of joe biden, it does not appear to date, based on what we know, any factors are present. in the case of donald trump, it appears that all but the disloyalty to the united states is present. i would say based on what we know, prosecutors would view these very differently. >> do you think, because of the politics, would make it harder to end up making the big, very difficult decision to prosecute donald trump for mar-a-lago if there was also this issue involving joe biden out there? >> i do think it makes it harder. there will be people who are defenders of donald trump who will both sides this. they will say, you prosecuted donald trump but you gave joe biden a pass. again, facts are going to matter in terms of what the ultimate decision is here. one way they are being treated the same is both are under investigation. that, i think, means they are getting the same treatment. if ultimately joe biden is cleared, because this is an accidental retention that was

promptly reported and donald trump engaged in a willful violation that included obstruction of justice, then i think prosecutors will likely go forward. when you are a prosecutor, one thing you tell yourself is you have to tune out the noise. is it possible? if so, be charged. >> jonathan, let's talk about the politics around this. it comes when the republicans are being criticized by professionals in the foreign policy and intelligence community for the oversight committee. we're going to talk about that. they are setting that up to dig into criminal investigations, dig into intelligence secrets with people like jim jordan and scott perry in charge. now this gives them leverage over joe biden. >> it does. it can't be stated enough. these are two different cases. we should reflect back that when the national archives realized the classified documents donald trump had, if he had just returned them, this wouldn't be a story.

that's what happened here. as soon as the documents were discovered, president biden's attorneys turned them over. the what about is very strong here. i follow donald trump on truth social so people watching at home don't have to. he is truthing up a storm in terms of suggesting this is another deep state conspiracy against him, against republicans, joe biden is preferentially treated and that if he is going to be investigated, so should biden. people say they will cooperate with the investigation. they say this was a mistake. it will be rectified as soon as possible. they recognize this does make the politics of a possible criminal charge against trump harder. >> do we know how it was leaked? >> we don't at this moment. colleagues in the news media covered it. everyone has been able to confirm it. it does, to your point a moment ago, add to the backdrop. republicans in control of the house. they are going to use everything they can as leverage to try to

attack this administration. they made it their stated purpose to investigate everything they can. there does seem like there's some mistake done here that led to the documents left at the penn center in washington. this is another moment where they can try to undermine what this administration is doing or muddy the waters. that's so much of what politics has become is about distraction, about what about, about both sides. donald trump and we assume joe biden both running for president 2024, these are not the same situations, but they will say it's similar enough to do damage. >> it's amplified. jonathan, monica, ken and barbara, thank you all so much for starting us off. new rules. how the new republican leaders on capitol hill are setting the stage for an overhaul of how the house will operate. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc.

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the new republican house majority passed their first piece of legislation monday night, a bill slashing tens of billions of dollars in funding for the irs. that will hit a legislative wall in the democratically controlled senate. the president would never sign it. they passed a rules package led by jim jordan, expanding his power to subpoena and investigate federal agencies. the so-called committee on weaponization of the federal government, a potential disruption to the biden policy agenda and the ongoing probes into former president trump and some republican members of congress, they would end up investigating the investigators who are investigating them. joining me now ali vitali and jeremy peters. ali, take us through the action playing out on the floor last night. mccarthy won his rules -- the

rules for the rules committee on a party line vote. what it means going forward, because the access to intelligence, the access to the january 6th investigations by people pieters, who is under investigation, is extraordinary. >> reporter: as the speaker vote culminating on the two-year anniversary of january 6, so many key players involved in the negotiations, people like scott perry and jim jordan and others, were members who were focused on by the january 6 committee. mccarthy himself is one of the five republicans who defied a subpoena request from the january 6 committee. many of these players, if you were to put them on a diagram, they would have a lot of overlap. now we see people like scott perry could be integral to future investigations. they are trying to investigate the investigators. this is one of the key focuses. we will see the house when they come back today vote around 4:00

to fully establish the select committees. this idea that they are establishing a select committee on the weaponization of government, that's what they are calling it, does speak to the larger landscape of how this house republican majority wants to function, which is not just as a consistent check on the biden administration. that's what divided government is. but that they see their role as really exercising subpoena power and looking into all of these agencies, whether it's the department of homeland security, the department of justice, what happened with, for example, the mar-a-lago investigation, all of these key things that have happened over the course of the last two years we will watch republicans try to do what jonathan lemire said, at the very least try to muddy the waters as they head into an election year in 2024. >> jeremy, i want to play what we heard from pennsylvania republican congressman scott perry, whose telephone was seized by the fbi. this is what he had to say.

>> the speaker said he will appoint a church-style committee to investigate the investigations. since you are part of the investigation by the justice department, will you pledge not to serve on that committee? >> why should i be limited, why should anybody be limited because someone made an accusation? everybody in america is innocent until proven otherwise. i would say this, the american people are really, really tired of the persecution and instruments of federal power being used against them. >> jeremy, he is saying, why should i not be able to serve on this committee just because i'm being investigated by this committee is what he is saying. the conflict of interest is so obvious. the fact that they should not be in charge of this investigation, which is a justice department investigation. there's a separation of powers issue here. >> a lot of this is reminiscent of the deep state conspiracy theory thinking that you have heard from republicans for the last five, six years, right?

now that they are in power in the house of representatives, i think you can expect to see more of that. this is the first day and already you have slashing irs funding and the establishment of these new investigatory committees. this kind of stuff is going to make benghazi look like child's play. i think the sheer volume of inquiries and the subpoenas that you are going to see over the next two years is really going to likely lead to even more government paralysis than we have seen in divided government in the past. >> certainly, these investigations into the january 6 doj investigation, this will go up to the supreme court. the justice department is not going to let this stand. we have to see how the trump supreme court -- trump dominated supreme court handles this issue. this is a whole new level of

hostility and adversarial behavior than anything we have seen before. >> it is. it has happened in large part because these folks have a bigger megaphone than before. you recall during the tea party insurrection of 2010, you had all of the new freshmen members who were empowered and emboldened to stand up to leadership and defy people like john boehner and eric cantor. the tea party looked like a dress rehearsal to what we are seeing now. what we are seeing now is people like matt gaetz and lauren boebert, they are -- it's almost as if they exist solely to be on fox news. right? >> it's performative and it's not policy driven. >> they try to dress it up and say, these rule changes we want, that's real, that's policy. but it's not. it's all about empowering this

fringe at the expense of a leader who knows how to legislate and who presumably wants to legislate like kevin mccarthy. >> jeremy, ali, thank you both so much. joining us now is former michigan republican congressman fred upton. it's good to see you. this is a whole new environment. you are known for working across the aisle, famously, of course, with your good friend john dingell, the democratic chairman. how the moderates -- how do they operate in this environment? >> well, a couple of things. first of all, we will see how this all plays out. the rules package, which is always usually the first day that congress is in session is always partisan. when the democrats are in charge, every republican votes no and vice versa, which is pretty much what happened yesterday. i think the real thing to look

for now in the days ahead is particularly the rules committee. most americans don't know about the rules committee. you don't learn that in high school or college civics. every bill of any consequence, once it gets through a committee, goes to the rules committee. the rules committee decides how much debate it's going to have, what amendments, the sequence, the motion to recommit or whatever that is to most americans. now that that committee has been expanded, the freedom caucus asked for three members on that committee. it is always nine to four majority. republicans will have nine, democrats will have four. one of the frustrations i think that a lot of members, particularly on the republican side have had is they want amendments that is germane. i can remember when i was first elected in the late '80s, you would have an appropriation bill

up on the house floor and it would be up week long. there would be amendments all week long offered by republicans and democrats that were germane to the bill. if you increase spending, you would -- if you had an amendment to increase spending, you have to have an offset to reduce it so it was within budget caps. now the frustration, of course, that republicans have had the last number of years is you end up with this 4,000 page continuing resolution that no one can even offer an amendment to do this or that to it. that's got to change. i think that will be the big issue. of course, we know that the margin is only a handful. four or five republicans join -- if it's not a fair rule, if you don't get some amendments that might change the course of that bill, four or five moderate republicans, i might say, might say, you know, we're not going to vote for that rule because it doesn't allow for an amendment to do this or that. that will be the real change as

you look forward. how is tom cole, who is respected on both sides of the aisle -- he will be the chairman -- how is he going to fashion new members to make sure that in fact when those bills reach the floor that there's maybe an equal number of fair democrat as well as republican amendments to maybe shape it a little different than how it came out of committee? >> isn't this the recipe for gridlock? >> it could be. >> there are arguments they shouldn't be handed a 4,000 page bill and have to vote on it in 24 hours. won't you have gridlock? >> we will see how this plays out. it could be gridlock down the road, for sure. as an example, you got 12 different appropriation bills. the house could take all those up under the new chairman --

chairwoman of appropriations. the house could take those up. if the senate says -- last year i don't think the senate took up a single appropriation bill. that's why we ended up with this omnibus bill at the end. at the end of the day, the fiscal year is creeping closer, september 30th. the house can do its work. if the senate doesn't do any, then you end up with an am any bus. the new rule is -- i think it's a good one. you have to have 72 hours to look through t. hopefully, there will be an amendment process. the democratic process in the congress will be one that's really reflective of what we all thought was going to happen when we were in college. >> the debt ceiling will affect all of us. there's turmoil in michigan politics. would you consider running for

the senate? >> despite still getting carded when i see a cubs game, i'm 69 years old. i would have to pledge, i think, to serve at least two terms. i don't look to be serving in the congress when i'm in my mid 80s. probably not a candidate for u.s. senate in michigan. >> you are not ruling it out? >> well, i'm glad to be out of the congress this last week. i haven't thought about my future quite yet. i guess you could say i have not ruled it out, but i'm really probably most inclined not to do so. >> we will touch base with you when you get closer to a decision. thank you so much. >> thanks. deep impact. more on that republican plan to investigate the so-called weaponization of federal government and how it may have a chilling affect across critical areas. to you, it may just be an elevator.

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biden used this office occasionally in between the end of his vice presidency and the return to the white house. this as the white house is expected -- rather, the house is expected to vote this afternoon to establish a select committee to investigate what some republicans are calling the weaponization of the federal government. joining me now is jeh johnson, former department of homeland security secretary during the obama administration, former general counsel for the defense department. >> welcome to new york. >> i would like to say it's great to be in new york and away from this debate. we went through 15 rounds to choose a speaker until 1:30 in the morning last week. >> i watched half of them. >> we had to watch all of it so you didn't have to. the fact is, that we now have joe biden acknowledging -- the white house acknowledging that back in november they found some documents. they say a small number of documents in his office on

capitol hill. they were closing that office down. he used it when he was -- excuse me, after he was vice president. they haven't said what kind, what level of classification, how many, why they didn't report it earlier. they reported it immediately to the archives which makes it difference than what donald trump did. you know politics in washington. this is now beyond what aboutism. this is, let's go after joe biden and demand that he be investigated -- he is being investigated, but demand he be prosecuted. >> this certainly complicates things for the department of justice given the investigation at mar-a-lago. there's a lot we don't know about what happened with the president's former office, the circumstances, what was there. we don't even know if joe biden personally was aware that these were there or was the person who handled them. it could have been somebody on

his staff working in this particular office who was close to him in the white house when he was vice president. we don't even know if biden himself was aware of this. i agree with the comments earlier made by barbara mcquade. typically, when you have classified documents discovered, there has to be an aggravating factor to be any criminal investigation or prosecution. based upon what little we know, it does seem that the biden situation is very, very different from the trump situation. the trump situation, there were a whole range of classified documents discovered at mar-a-lago, the aggravating factor being that after two or three requests and two or three certifications, they refused to give them back. there was still some discovered even after somebody on his behalf made a signed statement everything had been turned in.

based on what little we know, it does seem to be a very different situation. >> you have donald trump demanding that all of his residences be searched. that's beyond considering what we know. >> well, yes. donald trump and a number of republicans will certainly make a lot about it -- make a lot out of this. it does complicate things for the department of justice. i suspect that were it not for mar-a-lago, there wouldn't be a u.s. attorney appointed to investigate this situation in the biden office. >> you handled classified documents at the pentagon and homeland security. there was a chain of custody. you would read a document, turn it over it would be signed, stamped. there would be people's initials and other signature -- >> generally speaking. but what is consistent, what is certain is that any time you are looking at a classified

document, you have to be in a secure room. you can't look at classified documents in non-classified spaces. any time i'm looking at a classified document, first of all, it has the bright cover sheets. i know i have to leave it where i picked it up. it's not easy to walk out of a room with classified documents. it's contrary to practice. >> that needs to be explained. let's talk about the new select committee. this will have extraordinary powers. this committee will be able to look at all of the top secret intelligence that's turned over to the intelligence committee. but these people on this committee are not properly prepared or briefed or cleared for all of that, as well as people like scott perry from pennsylvania, saying there's no reason he shouldn't serve on a committee investigating the january 6 investigation at doj, which is investigating scott

perry. how does that work? >> good question. first, i was in the department of defense when we had the turnover to republicans in the house majority 2011 and then 2015 when republicans won control of senate, i was at dhs. what's interesting to me is we have come a very long way in our politics when republicans used to be pro law enforcement and pro defense. now we see republican attacks on the intelligence community, on the defense department. we have come a long ways from the school of thought of john mccain, lindsey graham, liz cheney was the mainstream thinking in the republican party. the thing that i think is important to point out, the rhetorical assaults on the fbi have, in fact, translated into

physical assaults on fbi offices. the one in cincinnati in november, for example. this type of rhetoric does lead to violence. i'm putting on my homeland security hat here. those who engage in this sort of irresponsible, overheated rhetoric, ought to be held accountable when the natural chain of events leads to some deranged person out there with a gun that decides to try to take matters into their own hands and attack a field office of the fbi or other locations across the country. from where i sit, it's not just the absurdity of the politics here. this type of overheated rhetoric in washington does lead to real dangerous consequences across the homeland. >> the facts aren't even there. there's been a lot of fact checking that all this claim about 87,000 new irs agents is just totally wrong. >> the facts don't seem to matter much anymore. do they? so much of the overheated

rhetoric is stirred based upon -- that's not mine. based upon -- >> we will get to that. >> so much of the overheated political rhetoric is based upon things that are just not fact. the people who engage in it i think know it. >> they know it. but it doesn't make any difference. thank you so much. apologies for the telephone. deadly storms causing destruction in california. 14 people are dead. a 5-year-old boy is missing after the storms swallowed homes and turned streets to rivers. tens of thousands of residents have been evacuated. more than 200,000 people are now without power. millions more are under flood watch. officials monday ordered the evacuation of all residens in

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he tweeted this monday. he is out of the hospital now. the state department saying so far, there has been no official request to extradite bolsonaro back to brazil. david, what is the situation now? you have had pro-democracy demonstrations. is the protest movement quieted down? what is president lula doing? >> reporter: last night we had big protests, tens of thousands of people. the chant that was echoing everywhere was, no amnesty. they want no mercy for these protesters who stormed the capitol, that destroys buildings -- destroyed artwork and furniture and all kinds of things inside the presidential palace, the supreme court and congress. they want them punished.

it does seem like lula's government is going after not just the people who were physically in the space but also trying to track the people who financed those protests. there's activities. they paid for buss to bring them to the capitol, enabling this to take place, setting the stage. right now, the investigations are beginning. as far as the actual protesters, there were 1,500 detained. some of them started to be brought to prison. the federal police said they are going to indict more than 1,000 people. it's really just starting. obviously, lula's government and the people who are protesting in

the streets want these people punished to the full extent of the law. that could be for crimes ranging from just damage to also staging a coup or trying to subvert the democratic order with violence. >> there are clear parallels to the january 6 attack in washington. we know trump allies like steve bannon have been fanning the flames in brazil. they have been on social media. are the brazilian officials raising concerns about the role americans may have played in this? >> reporter: i haven't heard lula government officials making those statements. obviously, a lot of analysts are drawing attention to the fact that, for example, steve bannon was sharing images of the protests going on calling these people freedom fighters. obviously, there are the connections between bolsonaro and his lawmaker son with bannon and jason miller and others in

the u.s. that are in trump's orbit. he positioned himself as the international face of the right wing movement led by bolsonaro. he has been attended conferences in the u.s. and welcoming people from the u.s. to come to brazil. there's that overlap. it's not entirely clear how much influence that may have had on sunday's events. certainly, it's something that authorities are looking into. >> david, thank you for your reporting. we appreciate it. duped. did deception play a role in getting a wealthy republican donors to fund george santos' campaign. more on that coming up? this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. on msnbc.

and this breaking news. kristen welker, our chief white

house correspondent, has gotten this statement from the white house as to why they did not disclose sooner the fact of these classified documents that were found at the biden center after the then vice president left office and was working at the that center. these statements says this is an ongoing process and reviewed by doj so we are going to be limited in what we can say at this time, but we are committed to doing this the right way and we will provide further details when and as appropriate. that comes from the white house. although it doesn't directly respond to why they didn't reveal it immediately. meanwhile, democratic members of the delegation are filing a formal complaint with the house ethics committee against fellow congressman george santos as accusations grow against santos. on monday a bipartisan watchdog accused santos of sweeping campaign finance violations including that unknown individuals may have illegally funneled money to his campaign.

cnbc is reporting that a santos campaign staffer impersonated a speaker kevin mccarthy while fundraising. nbc news has reached out to an attorney for santos who are did not respond for a request for comment. but if the fec opens a formal investigation is t joins a list of others looking into the lies told about his background. first exposed by "the new york times," michael gold was a part of of the team. he joins me now. as i understand it, you were on a campaign for george santos. >> my colleague and i started looking at santos after the election to try to figure out what made him tick. he was a new name in new york city politics, which is sort of surprising how big the political scene it. >> and nothing checked out? >> a lot of things did the not check out. there are some things about the congressman's background that we have confirmed, but there were a lot of questions. he said he graduated from a

college in new york. that turned out not to be the case. those company hs no record. as we and others kept reporting, we found more inconsistencies. >> and he was not communicating with anybody following him. reporters were trailing him, and now that he's been sworn in, the ethics committee is being asked to look into this, which is a process that does not go anywhere. but there are now serious legal issues regarding his money, his finances and campaign contributions. >> we know there are a number of inquiries opened by prosecutors. the eastern district of new york said that they are looking into mr. santos' finances, they are looking into whether the lies on the campaign trail might have constituted any crime separately. the district attorney in nassau county is taking a look. we know the queens district attorney is taking a look and that new york state attorney general has also said they are

exploring what might have happened here. >> what's going on with the campaign contributions? >> a lot of things it seems like. one of the questions we raised in our reporting that we're still looking into, and a lot of people are looking into is the congressman gave his cam a $700,000 loan. he generated a ann immense amount of personal wealth. so i think there are a lot of questions about where that matchup may or may not have come from. don't think any impropriety has been uncovered, but people are definitely interested to know more. cnbc reported yesterday that someone working for the santos campaign sent an e-mail in which according to cnbc this person retended to be a staff member for representative kevin mccarthy, who is now speaker. there are a lot of questions about that. that's one of the things that people are exploring. and there are a lot of questions about his campaign expenses. my colleagues at the time took a look at a lot of expenses. one thing that stood out to us is a number of expenses filed

for $199 which is below the threshold that the commission requires receipts for expenses and a numb of theses expenses struck us. >> at this point there's really no legal action against him. the ethics committee will take forever, but prosecutors are looking at him. he's not answered any of the questions. >> i spent a few days in d.c. following the congressman around. he has really only answered questions about where he stands on issues like who should be speaker of the house. he's talked about supporting the house rules package, which includes rules that effectively thanked the office of ethics in some ways. we haven't heard answers about his finances yet. we're still waiting to hear about that. >> thank you very much. that does it for this disof

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