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now that there is a speaker and a set of rule, kevin mccarthy is making good on a promise he made two years ago. if you, democrats, kick our people off of committees, we are going to do the same to you. back in february, 2021, democrats and 11 republicans voted to remove marjorie taylor greene from her committee assignments for a laundry list of extreme views and conspiracy theories, including that jewish space lasers actually caused california wildfires, school shootings were staged and her liking social media comments that supported violence against democrat, including one that said a bullet to the head would be a quicker way of removing nancy pelosi. then, in november of that same year, 2021, democrats and two republicans voted to do the same to paul gosar for tweeting a violent animation that depicted
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him killing aoc. now in january of 2023, two years later, with republicans back in control of the house, they are turning the table. promising to deny adam schiff, eric swalwell and ilhan omar their assignments. we'll tell you what they say those democrats have done to deserve it and what jeffries can do about it. but it's not just seat retribution. the republicans are gearing up to throw nearly all of the democrats' investigations back in their face. there's a subcommittee to look into the quote weaponization of the federal government. expect jim jordan to tear into the fbi and doj and any perceived coordination between the feds and big tech and it's not just a rehash. the republicans now have fresh
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fodder on president biden. james comer now chair of the oversight committee who has already said he would be looking into president biden by way of his son, hunter biden, now wants answers about a story cbs news broke last night that classified documents from joe biden's vice president were found in d.c. they confirmed what they called a small number of classified documents at the president's former office. the justice department is investigating how and why they got there. ken dilanian joins us in a moment to outline what we know about the documents so far, but republicans are already crying foul, saying this discovery only proves there is a double standard when it comes to donald trump, who's currently being investigated by a special counsel for refusing to turn over hundreds of classified documents found at his private club in florida. legal experts say about biden's
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case versus trump's in just a moment and what this means politically for any potential trump indictment. joining me now is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett haake, and nbc justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. so, garrett, let's start with you on these subcommittees and these retributions. what can you tell us about what's first up for the republicans when they start to get things done? >> well, look. in terms of what they want to investigate, republicans have what they see as basically a buffet of options in front of them on an investigatory basis. there's the weaponization of federal law enforcement, which has been a big issue for them. the origins of covid. you name it on the select committee part of it, on the documents part of it, comer is interesting because he heads the oversight and accountability community. what republicans have renamed it
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in this congress. he's trying to turn down the temperature, suggesting if there's a two tiered system, it means people should back off trump a little bit, but there are those have used it to turn up the temperature. marjorie taylor greene saying it adds to the call for biden to be impeached and josh hawley saying there should be a special counsel to investigate biden. somewhat of a divide between the republican party, but useful political development for them in how they want to approach investigating the biden administration. >> so put a pin in that for a moment. i want to ask you about committee assignments. what are they saying about omar, schiff, that's going to justify taking them off their committees? >> these have been promises made by then leader mccarthy, now speaker mccarthy intends to keep in terms of trying to remove these members in their committees. it's going to take a while because this isn't exactly a
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super high priority. even for this particular congress. on the first two, on swalwell and schiff, intel is technically a select committee. not a standing committee like the others which means all the members are appointed by the speaker. typically a minority leader gets to hand over a list of folks they want on it and it's a formality, but here, mccarthy could say, nobody, not these two. his issues with swalwell have to do with his dealings with a chinese agent years ago. with schiff, it's a list of issues with republicans complaining about him. if you might remember, adding elements to the transcript of the phone call between donald trump and president zelenskyy going back to the first impeachment. democrats' hands are largely tied there. as regards to omar, it goes back to comments she has made previously that republicans anned some democrats have viewed at antisemitic. they think she should not be on the foreign affairs committee. she's apologized for most of those comments.
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that would take a vote of the full house and there, mccarthy's got a slightly more difficult task as he does in anything where he needs to get a majority because it's not clear that every republican wants to keep up the same kind of tit for tat back and forth of removing people from committees. that said, there is significant desire in the republican party to the house republicans to say you guys shouldn't have done this to us in the last congress regardless of the issue. now we feel like we sort of have to do it to you to make that point. so omar's time on the foreign affairs committee could be numbered. obviously, the other way around all this is nobody other than the chairs and ranking members in some cases just the chairs have been apointed yet to these committees, so democrats could shuffle the deck here and move these members and avoid these confrontations if they want to. >> back to the documents. on the face of it, it doesn't look great. classified documents found at a
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former office of president joe biden. what do we know about what was in those? we know the level of classification and how they got there. >> i think you're right. it doesn't look great and the white house is not disclosing what level of classification was afforded to these. we have new reporting that says it's less than a dozen. what the white house is saying is that these documents were found in these offices at the penn biden center affiliated with the university of pennsylvania. six days before the november midterms and that president biden was told about that pretty quickly. immediately. the same day, but yet the white house sat on this information. didn't make it public. until it leaked. and we also know that the attorney general after the white house, i should say this. they immediately informed the national archives. they did everything you would
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expect government officials would do upon discovery of classified documents and the archives referred it to the justice department. the attorney general made the decision to refer to matter to a u.s. attorney in chicago apointed by president trump to make sure everything was appearing to be independent and nonpolitical and that u.s. attorney is now reviewing whether to open a criminal investigation, but a lot of questions still unanswered. >> we're going to get the legal outlook on this in a moment and the comparisons and not so close comparisons on what's going on with donald trump. stay with us for that. thank you very much. joining me now on the political side of this is republican congressman from florida. he's also an msnbc political analyst. how are republicans going to use this? >> well, katy, obviously this is fodder for republicans. they are chomping at the bit to get deep into this, to show there are different standards in their view in the way former
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president trump has been treated and the way some prominent democrats including president biden have been treated. i think we can expect to hear a lot about this over the coming weeks and i think some republicans will reasonably make the argument that there has to be one standard for all public officials. for all elected officials. and other republicans are just going to try to spike the football here in the end zone and make as much political hay out of this as possible, making things worse. >> we're still waiting on more information. politically speaking, do you see the documents that president biden were found at his former office as the same as what has been happening with donald trump at mar-a-lago? >> there are obvious differences. technically, it's the same thing. we're talking about classified documents that are not being handled appropriately. now the way that this was done i think is quite different. it looks like former president trump i think it was pretty clear by now intentionally took
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these documents. intentionally kept them away from the government. it doesn't appear that that is the case with president biden when he was out of office, but still as you said earlier, it looks bad. it was probably improper. it was probably done in contravention of the law and there will be some accountability. >> you know, the justice department has repeatedly said that no one is above the law. they're going to treat each case individually and they don't let politics dictate what they do. which is a pure statement about their intentions. i think we all assume though that politics does get into it a little bit. that's why they've appointed a special counsel. politically speaking, does this make it harder to potentially indict donald trump for holding those documents at mar-a-lago? >> i think when we analyze the temperament of merrick garland
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and his own history in our country, right, being a very prominent figure. a lot of people in our country think he was treated unfairly by senate republicans. i think merrick garland takes his place in american history very seriously and i do agree with you. while they're going to abide by legal standards while no one expects that garland is going to weaponize or politicize the department of justice in an aggressive way, the way some in the trump administration tried to do, i do think that he is going to be mindful not to worsen the political crisis that our country is living. the crisis of trust and confidence in government. so i do agree with you. i think that this will give attorney general garland and everyone at the justice department a little pause about the way they're going to pursue donald trump for this specific case. the case having to do with the classified documents at
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mar-a-lago. >> nothing happens in a vacuum as i often say. thank you very much for joining us today. now joining us to talk about the legal side of this, the comparisons and the not comparisons. what's the opposite of comparisons? lisa ruben joins me as well. legal analyst for msnbc. all right, so the dissimilarities here. what's different about what happened with joe biden and what's been happening with donald trump? >> well, based on what we know today and i will be the first to say that if what we know today changes, i'll come back to you and say my assessment changes as well, but based on what we know, there are three major differences. two of which have been prominently featured by reporters and other analysts. one is the quantity. when we first learned of president trump's potential violations, we've learned over time that he took and then retained more than 320 documents with classification markings. so far, the number of documents
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that we understand were found in president biden's personal office number about ten. so one is quantity. the second is the question of where they were found. obviously in president trump's case, they were found in a variety of locations. whether it be in his personal office at mar-a-lago, in the residence, storage units and then most recently in a storage unit in west palm beach where some of the papers from his presidency were taken. here, all we know today is that documents were found in a locked closet in an office at the penn biden center in an office president biden was using. the biggest difference is one ha the law recognizes. one of willfulness. there's nothing to indicate, based on what we know so far, that president biden either took these documents willfully or retained them willfully. when you look back at the trump search warrant application, there are three statutes the department of justice said they were investigating violations of. one has to do with concealing
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documents from the government in an ongoing investigation. certainly, we're not there with president biden yet. but the other two have to do with unlawfully retaining or delivering documents. whether they be documents that affect the national defense and the espionage acts case or just simply holding on to government records. those both require willfulness. that's a level of intent that we're not seeing so far in the biden case and that's a distension with difference. >> one of the differences we're at least told right now is that they found these documents in the process of moving and when donald trump was asked for those documents, it was prompted by the national archives. please give us back these documents. that's what got the ball rolling, which ultimately led to the fbi doing a search of mar-a-lago. republicans are saying that joe biden deserves the same treatment, that his offices, his home, should be searched by the fbi to turn up any more documents. without a request from the national archives for missing
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documents, would they have any legal justification to go do that search? >> i don't think so. again, there might be evidence we're not aware of, but in addition to that, let's also remember there were 18 months in between when president trump left office and when the department of justice sought that search warrant and in between, there were all sorts of levels of entreaties that ranged from the informal e-mails from president trump's lawyers to the national archives to more formal letters. then after almost a year when they got the first 15 boxes, it was the national archives themselves that discovered those classified documents. certainly not a situation where president trump's lawyer said oh, these are classified documents, we need to return them. after the first ones were found, then the department of justice through subpoenas and the search warrant, came up with another 150 plus. i don't think we're in the same
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situation here. that would justify a search of president biden's homes or other locations where he spent time. >> i'll ask you the same question i asked carlos. does politics enter into the same about the charges now against trump? does this revelation, this discovery affect that decision? >> it's hard to say because before this decision gets to merrick garland, it obviously starts with special counsel, jack smith, who was appointed to take politics out of the equation. at the time he was chosen, i and other legal analysts said why do we need a special counsel? this is why with respect to former president trump. that having been said, garland is a person always known for his cautiousness and sort of apolitical attitude toward the law. while he has said we will pursue the law evenly, the legal requirement here again requires a willfulness we haven't yet
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seen. so i think it depends on what the department of justice and special counsel's office finds with respect to president trump and president biden and whether the differences between these two situations gets magnified or you know, shortened in the small course. >> got it. thank you so much. always appreciate your legal insights. still ahead, mass evacuations and dramatic rescues in california. what cameras captured as record rainfall and mudslides threatened to wash away or bury entire neighborhoods. brazil isn't out of the dark yet. thousands showed up to protest today after the antigovernment riot on sunday. we'll tell you what the difference was and what these protesters are demanding. plus, is this time different? what the biggest bipartisan visit to the border in recent memory could mean for comprehensive immigration
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at least 14 are dead in california as massive mudslides keep pounding the area. in chatsworth, a woman was rescued from a sinkhole. in santa barbara, residents have been ordered to shelter in place after the river rose above the street level. and in fresno, rock slides with boulders the size of cars closed a four-lane highway for the second time in two weeks. more rain is on the way. part of a so-called parade of cyclones according to meteorologists, which doesn't that sound great. joining me from california is marisa paris. where are you and what are you
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seeing? >> reporter: hey, katy. we're south of santa cruz area and in terms of the damage, it just depends on where you are. in california, there's a lot of damage that varies depending on the type of terrain, how close you are to the beach front. for a little perspective, the ocean is just over there. i'm going to show you in a moment, but first, i'm going to show you where we are. this is a residential area. this is a market next to me. on the other side, before i show you the market, i want to show you an example of why you don't really want to be walking through the water. a giant dumpster. you don't know what's in this water. there could be live wires. we want to caution people before they try to walk through the waters. but in terms of recovery, in terms of what comes next, the problem is there is more rain expects. in different parts of california, they are getting battered by more thunderstorms just north and south of us and if you look over here, you'll see just down the road piles of sand, piles of mud that people have tried to scrape together.
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this has sort of been the story of the last 24 hours as people have been trying to recover from not just the last 24 hours, but even just the last ten days. i just thought this was so striking. look at these two newspaper headlines. the one on the far right, a bomb cyclone pummels region. this was from january 5th. so let that be a reminder of what the area has been through. really, that's a testament to why it's been so difficult to the terrain. because you have people who have not only been dealing with this, so they're trying to clean up, but you have an areas that is vulnerable to mudslides, landslides, because they've also been through wildfires. in the last year, we know how intense those got. we saw burn scars. that means the vegetation that once held that land firmer in place now is clear. so now you have all of this precipitation coming down at such a fast rate, it means it
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makes it very easy for it to keep sliding down. that's where you see the landslides and mudslides creating those striking image, wipes out the highways. we know there's one 5-year-old boy who was swept away in the flood waters further south about two hours. they had to stop the search because the conditions were so bad. but we understand that search did resume, so at least a break in the clouds so they can try to find this boy for his family. >> gut wrenching. thank you very much. coming up, it hasn't even been out for a full 24 hours yet, but prince harry's book is now the fastest selling book in uk history. my floor director loves this story. what the british public is saying about what he reveals about the crown. and a bipartisan group of senators are renewing calls for immigration reform. what they are proposing to fix in america's broken immigration system and what economists argue is actually needed. argue is actually needed i'll remember that chapter of my life forever.
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emphasis on could, make it to the president's desk. senators cornyn and sinema led a group of their fellow lawmakers, the largest bipartisan group to visit in recent memory. their goal is to actually do something about the crisis instead of just trying to score political points with it. in a moment, we're going to talk with cnbc's steve liesman about what this country's economy needs in terms of immigration, but let us start at the border with nbc's gabe gutierrez. so you followed along with this so-called codel, what they call it when a group of lawmakers travels together somewhere. what were they talk about and what did you learn? >> reporter: good afternoon. introduction was hopeful, but not everyone here on the border shares that optimism that lawmakers can get a deal done.
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this has stymied lawmakers for many decades, but there's at least some optimism among certain senators this might be the time. yes, senators like kirsten sinema, tom tillis, also mark callie from arizona, they were in el paso yesterday. they're in yuma county today and will be touring this area at border later on today. there's a lot of frustration that the federal government hasn't done more. we were here several years ago, but the past year according to officials here, there's been a 2600% increase in unauthorized border crossings here in yuma county and just in morning, we were here not far from where i'm standing and we saw a migrant family from colombia. they had spent quite some time trying to get here. they spent hours overnight with
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a 9-month-old baby boy in very cold temperatures waiting to be processed for border control. they're from colombia and most recent policy change announced by the biden administration says that up to 30,000 migrants from certain countries not including co they apply for asylum throughout the proper channels. some of the advocates here on the ground say that policy is dangerous and they're actually disappointed that the biden administration in their words has continued some of the policies that they saw were under the trump administration. so later on today, we're expecting this bipartisan group of senators to tour this area in yuma county. trying to draw attention to the possibility, however slim, of immigration reform in the near future. >> before i say good-bye to you, i want to toss to john cornyn and listen to what he said about the urgency to get something
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done. >> this is a crisis. i think we've all used that word. but there's nobody else to turn to. it's our responsibility. it's our job. to try to address these very difficult, multifaceted problems. you've heard from a lot of the different types of people from different perspectives and that demonstrates the challenge of coming up with a single solution. i just think there's no alternative but to step up and try to deal with this the best we can. >> texas senator cornyn. gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. and joining me now, steve liesman. steve, you and i have had this conversation before about the need for immigration. a lot of the time, the conversation about what's happening at the border centers around a moral obligation for us to take in people who are in need. it's what the statue of liberty says at its base. we're going to take your tired, your hungry, your weary.
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but there is an argument to be made that beyond the moral side to this, there's a financial incentive to allow more immigrants into the country. what is that argument? >> can i change it to financial imperative? i think that's what it really amounts to. the amount that we grow is based upon the growth of our labor force plus our growth in productivity. we don't know how much we're going to grow productivewise. we can become more efficient with gadgets and gizmos and chips, but we know for sure when we grow our population, we grow our economy and if immigration has fallen off as it has during the pandemic and even before that through policies and the trump administration, you're going to have lower growth in the future and so the imperative for u.s. economic growth remaining at the levels we've enjoyed over the past several years, a big part of that is going to be getting the immigration policies of this
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country correct. >> the bureau of labor and statistics says there are 8.4 million potential workers who are unemployed. 8.4. most recent numbers, but it also says there are a record 10.9 million jobs open so we don't have, even if you employed every single one of those workers, we still don't have enough of them to be employed by all the jobs that are open. small companies including by cnbc, looking for workers. can't find workers. some of this is because times have changed in this country and workers expect different sorts of jobs and different accommodations to be made from them. they don't want to work certain hours, et cetera, but still, there are open jobs. so if we allow more immigrants in, can we fill at least a portion of those jobs, maybe the ones americans don't want to do? >> it's more than that, katy. yes, you're absolutely correct. we cannot fill the jobs we have
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open. but there are some jobs we just won't be able to fill at all without immigrants. if you look at the sciences, technologies, stem jobs, a big part of the students in those jobs here in the united states are foreign students who come in and some of those fields if you didn't hire foreigners, you wouldn't have anybody to hire at all. and there's other areas here. immigration, there's about 1.6 million. another portion is we've had early retirees. people who are retiring faster than estimated. you've had deaths from the pandemic. you also have sickness that's out there as a result. our labor force is not keeping pace with the growth of this economy. that's why you have those massive number of jobs open and we can't fill them and one way to fill them is to fill them with immigrants. hey, you know who's recognized this? canada. they've put up billboards in silicon valley, in central park, telling people if you're having trouble getting a work visa in
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the united states, come to canada. they've doubled the number of immigrants they've taken in. >> the aspen group published a report saying it's more babies or more immigration, the u.s. needs more people. again, persistently over shortages. funding social services like medicare and social security going forward and keeping the economy going. thank you very much for coming on and talking about this angle of the story. just days after his supporters stormed government buildings, the former brazilian president tweeted a picture of himself from a florida hospital bed. what he is saying as u.s. lawmakers call for his extradition. s call for his tradition. your heart is the beat of life. if you have heart failure, entrust your heart to entresto, a medicine specifically made for heart failure. entresto is the #1 heart failure brand prescribed by cardiologists. it was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. heart failure can change the structure of your heart,
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in the wake of an attack on brazil's government, tens of thousands of people rallied in support of their president and democracy. in sao paulo, people wore the
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preferred red. you see it here. the president's party. they chanted dictatorship never again and democracy forever. at the same time, the ex-president remains in florida tweeting a photo of himself in an orlando area hospital where he was treated for pain related to a 2018 stabbing attack. a series of u.s. lawmakers are calling for balsonaro to be extradited back to brazil. joining me from miami is guad and patricia. thank you very much. i appreciate it, guys. tell us about what we know right now. >> reporter: well, the justice minister in brazil was asked about this possible extradition of balsonaro because there was a lot of talk. this all started because lula said balsonaro shared some of the blame for what happened over the weekend in brazil and of
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course conversation began if the u.s. could have him do anything to return to brazil if they wanted him to go back to brazil. so what we know from the justice minister in brazil is that there's no criminal investigation that including balsonaro and that would be necessary in order for an extradition request to exist. so there's no element in order for them to request. so there's nothing there. u.s. authorities, officials, have also said there is no extradition request from brazil to have balsonaro return. today, we learned cnn brazil spoke to balsonaro. they are reported he wants to return to brazil sooner than anticipated. the reason he's in the hospital is because of intestinal adhesion. this goes back to a stabbing, an attack in 2018 that led to five different surgeries. he says those surgeries have caused intestinal adhesions. he's being treated in the u.s. in orlando, but he says he wants
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to go back to brazil to see the doctors who know his history to get this treatment. so he might be returning before he even planned to do so without any of this extradition people have discussed taking place. meanwhile, the investigation continues in brazil as the military has taken over. they disbanded this camp that was a few miles away from where all this violence happened. these were balsonaro supporters camped out in front of the military trying to request help to overthrow lula's government. they've all been detained. the hundreds here are detained. many of them came from that camp. as that investigation continues and also the brazilian government now trying to find out if anyone was behind those protesters. if there was anyone financing them because they say it took money to feed them, to give them water and also to bring some transport to move a lot of these individuals in buses to the area in the federal area where they eventually created this destruction inside those
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buildings. >> any closer to finding out who might have been behind all this? >> well, katy, i think at this point, the federal police and the ministry of justice, they are investigating and they have already identified several businessmen who were financing all that. as was being said, these people have been camping outside of military headquarters for months and someone is paying for meals for bathrooms, for everyone. and they were offering inside monitor public watch groups and telegram groups, they were offering free bus tickets and everything included with meals for people to go to brazil on sunday the 8th to protest. >> okay. and there's balsonaro, who again is in florida. guad was talking about how he might be going back to brazil willingly. do you have an indication that
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the president wants him back? that the supreme court in brazil might want him back, that he could face charges relating to what happened on sunday? >> i'm sure he's already being investigated in four different investigations by the supreme court for his participation in several anti-democratic movements, but not the current one. and the other thing that is being talked about and discussed and several representatives in the u.s. are talking about is about deportation instead of extradition. of course, extradition requires requests from the brazilian government and some sort of criminal indictment so that they can request extradition. but for deportation, it would only be needed a decision by the white house and department of homeland security and there's the spokesperson of the state department, nat price, answering a question related to balsonaro,
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that he entered the u.s. on a visa special for chiefs of state, a diplomatic visa, and he no longer holds that official mission. so he could you know, not in a regular migration status now. >> and according to the constitution in brazil, the only way a president can be arrested is if the supreme court finds him, convicts him. thank you very much. we've got breaking news out of new york city where allen weiss l berg was sentenced to five months in jail. tim winter is outside of the courthouse with the details. tom, was this what we expected? >> exactly was and weisselberg, the former cfo of the trump organization, obviously the former president of personal company, the one that has rocketed him to his fame and
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wealth is now in the handcuffs and in the custody of the new york city department of corrections. so he'll be headed to rikers island, about a 34-minute drive. today to serve this five month sentence which when you take into account what is expected to be time off for good behavior should mean that he gets out sometime in april. he was taken into custody at 2:36 today after the judge gave him his well wishes. said that he would honor his promise to that five-month jail sentence, however, the judge says, having heard the in evidence in the case, he found it quote, offensive, that weisselberg's wife received a payment so she could ultimately receive a social security benefit. he said look at a time when so many americans are working so hard to eventually get those benefits one day, he felt it was motivated by greed, just like the entire case, he says, was motivated by greed and had he heard that evidence prior to his
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promise of only five months of a jail sentence, he would have gone higher, but he made a promise so he kept with the five months. part of that prosecutors saying to the court, look, he satisfied all the conditions of his plea agreement. he did testify truthfully at trial. he did say he was this high managerial agent. basically somebody in charge of the trump organization. helped provide key evidence that effectively put the trump organization not behind bars, because you can't jail a corporation, of course, but led to the guilty verdict against the former president's company. so this effectively ends this chapter of the case. we have no pending cases remaining on the criminal side. of course, the civil suit by new york's attorney general against the trump corporation, the former president and his family members including his kids, that case moves on, but that's separate from all of this. at the end of the day, weisselberg, who still through his attorney, professes loyalty to the former president and thanked the president's family,
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the former president's family, for their support through all of this. he is now on his way to jail. >> does that mean no more criminal cases could be brought or might be brought against anybody else within the trump organization in the future? >> well, manhattan district attorney said on msnbc over the past couple of weeks in several appearances that the case remains ongoing. he has said so publicly at press conferences. we have not seen any sort of public indication that that case has been ongoing. we haven't heard about any additional subpoenas for documents. we haven't heard about any additional investigative steps. now some of that happens in secret and sometimes we're not always the first to know of course as you well know. but we haven't heard any of that since. so the manhattan d.a.'s office -- this case remains ongoing. >> there was weisselberg on the left with a mask heading off to
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his five month prison sentence. tom winter, thank you very much. moving on. the book that everyone is talking about is out today. prince harry's memoir hit shelves worldwide at midnight and is now the fastest selling nonfiction book ever in the uk. just from my floor director's purchases alone, kidding. that's according to penguin random house in the uk. keir simons has the details. >> who's next? >> reporter: bookstores opened at midnight in the uk. >> i want to be able to read his words. >> reporter: and by this morning, prince harry's memoir was on sale around the world. the audio book simultaneously released and read by harry himself. >> i love my mother country and my family. i always will. i just wish at the second darkest moment of my life, they had been there for me.
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>> reporter: including the book going on sale in spain early, much is already known. prince harry writes of his mental health struggles after the death of his mother, diana. he describes divisions with his brother and physical altercations. he accuses his stepmother of trading stories with journalists. >> with her on the way to becoming queen consort, there was going to be people, bodies, left in the street. >> the tension between catherine and meghan is laid bare. like this exchange. charlotte's dress is too big. too long, too baggy. she cried when she tried it on at home. he says meghan texted back, right, i told you the tailor has been standing by since 8:00 a.m. can you take charlotte to have it altered as the other moms are doing? this morning, a broadcaster and royal author sat down with us to talk about the fallout. how damaging is this for the royal family?
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>> i think this is hugely damaging for the royal family. it's showing them as dysfunctional. >> they haven't come across in a good light. the institution hasn't come across in a good light and it seems this is harry's attempt to make it look at itself in a different way. >> prince harry seen in new york last night for his fourth tv appearance. this time on the late show with steven colbert. >> i've read the book, very enjoyable, revealing. i'm going to have so much to talk about with his harryness. >> a media blitz by prince harry while back in the u.k., still silence from his family. >> thank you very much and joining me now is former north american editor for bbc news. john, good to have you. so the book is out. fastest selling book in the u.k. as keir outlined, somewhat damaging for the monarchy and reputation. in that package, there was a little bit about this feud, this argument about dresses and it,
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you know, reads as petty. there's another one that also reads as kind of off. i'll read it to you. pa and camilla didn't want willie and kate getting loads of publicity -- that seems insane. >> look, there is so much of it that you either think it's trivial. a row about whether he had a beard at his wedding or not. the whole bridesmaids dresses. at least in britain, we haven't
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lost our sense of humor. there's one book shelf where they put the harry book in spare along with another which is very popular, which is how to kill your family. and you do feel there is something of that in what prince harry has tried to do in this book because it's not just the trivial stuff. harry's hatred of the tabloid press comes through loud and clear. and yet he has given the tabloid press an absolute feeding frenzy of stories. going back to the drugs he's taken, apparently killing 25 taliban. losing his virginity to an older woman in a field. getting frostbite, i won't even go into where he got the frostbite. at the same time, he's railed against the loss of prifsy and yet invades the privacy knowing
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the heir to the thrown, prince william, cannot fire back. nor can the king. the queen consort, the princess of wales. they've got to take to silently. huge sympathy to harry for losing his mother, but this book is a rather strange way to say i want privacy. >> i wonder if some of it rings true as we were talking about with the press. he says his big allegation is that the family would go through reporters. journalists. and say what they wanted to say or plant negative stories and youf seen a lot of that in the run up to this book. yes, they're not publicly commenting. but you feel like their opinion, thought, feelings, are all over the pages of the newspapers, magazines and on television in the u.k. >> so a certain extent i think that's true. i've seen very little that looks like authorized comment.
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and you and i in our years in journalism, how many times have we had conversations where we think that's fascinating. can i use that? no, you can't use it on the record, but you can say sources close to or whatever. i just don't quite buy is systemic idea that that was almost a conspirator yal level of organization where they're briefing against other people. stories get out. it's not the press secretaries or the communications directors. i always found them the most useless. it was the people on the fringes of or had things to say. >> why wouldn't they come out? we have to go in a second, but why wouldn't they just come out and defend harry and meghan in the face of that awful press? why not just say we love her. so happy for her to be a part of the family. >> they did to some extent, but they are clunky. it's a rattling old institution, the royal family, in a 21st century media rage and i don't
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think buckingham palace and the others have yet caught up with that. >> jon, thank you very much. recent polling shows that a third of britain's 35% hold a negative view of the monarchy. 54% a positive view. that's fall nl 25 points since september 2022 when charles assumed the throne. that's going to do it for me today. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. picks up our coverage next. if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee,
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