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i will speak to a leading climate scientist about what can be done. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where attorney general merrick garland tapped a veteran prosecutor, trump appointed u.s. attorney robert herr, to probe the mishandling the classified documents by president biden and his office. nbc is reporting that one of the handful of documents found at his former office in washington was top secret. >> the extraordinary circumstances here require the appointment of a special counsel for this matter. this appointment underscores for the public the department's commitment to both independence and accountability in particularly sensitive matters and to making decisions guided only by the facts and the law. >> joining me now, julia
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ainsley, peter alexander, "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker and andrew weissmann, former senior prosecutor for the mueller investigation. we have a better time line of events and discoveries. although, it came out in dribs and drabs. >> that's right. we got a better picture of that yesterday from the announcement by attorney general garland. the biden attorneys found fewer than a dozen documents at penn university. they informed the national archives. on november 14th, that's when garland launches his investigation headed by the northern illinois u.s. attorney. then you go to december 20th when more documents were found at the biden residence. then we understand that just
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yesterday, biden attorneys informed the justice department they found a third batch, still within the same home, along the same premises of biden's residence in delaware. that marks three separate occasions they found more documents. some of them more sensitive than others. that should have been handed over to the national archives. now we have the announcement of a special counsel yesterday in part because the man who had been heading this is going into the private sector. garland wants to assure it's an independent investigation. former president trump is also under investigation. >> it's extraordinary to have a former president and current president under investigation for mishandling classified documents. was that a single document or a batch, the last one? >> i think it's one additional document they found out about yesterday. a lot more details still need to be explains as we figure out
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what was in these and why they weren't stored properly. i think that's going to get to the heart of the matter. >> we don't know whether it was the president or staff or a combination? >> whoever is packing up his office. >> peter alexander, let's talk about the white house. the white house appears to have cooperated with the fbi and the national archives, unlike donald trump, who didn't reveal what they had, who took it deliberately as far as we know, and then refused to turn things over for more than a year. all of that is a clear distinction. the way they have handled it, they knew about it days before the election, they didn't report it until it actually leaked recently. they didn't report it even after the election. they didn't report the second group that they found. that was reported by nbc news. the briefings have been a real issue as well, right? the white house briefings not clear. >> you are right. there are at least a handful of questions that remain unanswered questions that we pressed the
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white house on repeatedly, including the press secretary who will brief in the next half an hour but is unlikely to answer any of them. how and why did these documents, classified documents get to those locations? president biden's home in delaware and his former office here two months for the white house to reveal publically these discoveries and only after media reports? why, when they first acknowledged that there had been a discovery of classified documents, an announcement they made on monday, did they not acknowledge the second set of documents found? that was several weeks earlier. beyond that, the questions include, why is it that president biden's personal lawyers and not the fbi or doj has been doing the searches? i think the question is, will president biden be willing to speak to the special counsel if an interview is requested here?
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a ton of questions that remain unanswered. some of the unique reporting coming from my colleagues, carol lee and mike memoli, we know federal law officials have interviewed multiple aides of then vice president pence, working with him in the waning days of his time serving in the obama administration, among them, a woman by the name of kathy chung. she's a former executive assistant to vice president biden who played a role, who helped pack up some of the boxes here from the vice presidential office back in january of 2017. she now works for the pentagon for the defense secretary as a senior official there. the justice -- the pentagon has directed us to the justice department to try to answer any questions we have about her role here. the white house is not commenting on that either. >> peter baker, let's talk about the extraordinary situation we have.
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the attorney general is now overseeing two special counsels, at the same time, investigating the mishandling of classified documents, a current president, a former president. the political damage to president trump, it's baked in the cake. but what about the political damage to this president who is on the cusp of potentially and most likely announcing a re-election effort? >> yeah. look, this might not have been a big deal politically knowing what we know so far had it not been for the fact that there was already this investigation of former president trump. it's in that context that people will judge it politically. it's in that context that former president trump and his republican allies will go after president biden and the justice department and argue there's a double standard and that former president trump is being persecuted for the same thing that the current president is doing and so forth. that's not actually true in terms of the fact set. the fact set is drastically different. the former president not only
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took 300 documents that we're aware of from the white house, he resisted giving them back to the point that the justice department even subpoenaed him and still he seemed to resist it. that's why they are looking at obstruction. that doesn't seem to be the case with president biden so far as we know at this point. details are not going to get in the way of the politics. the politics are such that this will look on the surface to be similar. therefore, i think make it harder to prosecute former president trump, certainly harder to politically criticize him. i don't think you will hear president biden talking about how irresponsible, that was the word he used, former president trump was in the handling of classified documents anymore. >> he was on "60 minutes" and other media criticizing president trump since before the midterm election he was well aware that his own office had the same kind of problem. unclear as to the handling of it inside this white house. andrew, let's talk about the
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law. the special counsel put out a statement saying, quote, i will conduct the assigned investigation with fair, impartial and dispassionate judgment. i intend to follow the facts swiftly and thoroughly. he is well recorded. give us a better sense of whether this was necessary. tell us who robert hur is. i know this was the recommendation from the previous investigator in illinois. according to the law, is it so clear this should be a criminal investigation? >> there isn't a clearcut answer to that. i hate to give you the lawyer's response, which is it depends. i think the issue here is that it was well within the attorney general's discretion. that's simply based on what we know publically. there could be additional facts the department of justice is aware of to justify what merrick
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garland did in appointing a special counsel. just based on what we know publically, there clearly is enough to open a criminal investigation. that only requires that there's some factual predication to believe a crime may have been committed by somebody. i stress the word "may." very often, matters are open and nothing comes of them. because there's no crime there. then the second issue is whether it's appropriate to appoint a special counsel. and that, under the attorney general guidelines, that's not law, it's just attorney general guidelines within the department of justice, it's something that the attorney general really has broad discretion. and here i think that it is the wiser course to do that. it both gives the department the actual appearance of being fair and balanced. and it is proportional given what he did with respect to the
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donald trump investigation, not focusing on the january 6, but the fact that the mar-a-lago documents investigation has been given to a special counsel. i think it does help insulate the department from claims of political bias. those claims will be made. but for fair minded people i think it was the wiser course to do what the attorney general did here. >> let me play devil's advocate. chuck rosenberg and a few other of our friends and colleagues are suggesting that this could well have been -- is well within the attorney general's domain. in fact, he will have to make the final decision. this is not a special prosecutor. it's a special counsel. as you know better than i, it's a different situation. he is going to have to sign off in any case and can be accused of a conflict of interest because he is a cabinet secretary in joe biden's administration. did it really need to be done
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given the fact set that we know of, which was that it was reported right away and clearly a mistake, clearly wrong, could have been an administrative problem, a slap on the hand, but since it was not withheld for months and months and subpoenas defied and a search having been approved because of all of that resistance, could they have done something else? >> they could have. the question is whether the attorney general was warranted in doing this and should be second guessed. let's just not forget, classified information was found in the garage of the current president's home. the question of how it got there, under what circumstances is a legitimate area for investigation. the point of the attorney general guidelines to the special counsel is not that it
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insulates the department from all claims of bias. i mean, you are right, it's always the attorney general. but that's just attacking the special counsel process. if the goal is to give some level of distance so you have somebody independent doing the day-to-day operation and making a recommendation in the same way you had a trump appointee making a recommendation that there should be a special counsel appointed. finally, when we're dealing with an issue that really comes down to intent, what was the intent of the president, that's an area where it warrants investigation. it's something that's difficult to know. >> andrew, this is going to be debated. i think in terms of the politics, certainly, this makes it easier if they decide to proceed against former president trump to say that they at least had special counsels in both
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cases, correct? >> absolutely. i do think that we could very well see based on what we know now that you have jack smith recommending going forward with respect to the mar-a-lago case and mr. hur saying that there's no there there in this case if what appears to be the case happens. it won't satisfy everyone, but it will make it easier to bring the case against the former president. >> thanks to all. the state of war. russia claiming control of a critical town in the east. the u.s. and ukrainians say there's still heavy fighting. what's the reality on the ground? you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. bc ev. we laughed. we cried. we protected that progressive home & auto bundle day and night. we left our blood, sweat, and tears on that yard.
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victory in months. moscow saying they control the salt mining town of soledar according to the russian defense ministry. it would be a breakthrough for the kremlin, which suffered repeated setbacks. ukrainian officials are denying the town has fallen. u.s. officials say that parts of the city are still being contested. joining me now is admiral. it would be a morale boost for russia. what do you think the state of play is now given the competing claims? >> first of all, we will know more in 24 to 48 hours. my guess is that this town of soledar will, in fact, fall to the russians because they have thrown the kitchen sink at it to include the one reasonably capable fighting element aligned with russia. that's a bunch of mercenaries called the wagner group.
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it wouldn't surprise me to see soledar fall. this is not like the alimo or the battle of the bulge. this is pretty small in an 800-mile -- i will say that again, this is an 800-mile combat front. the fact this one town may fall to the russians, you are correct, will give them a bit of a morale boost. tactically, it's not going to be terribly significant. the real prize close by is a town close by, much bigger, more strategically important. i think you will see the ukrainian resolve stiffen. they will hold on to that. overall, this is a very small bright spot, if you will, on the part of the russian army. still struggling across 800 miles of combat with ooh yan yans. >> russians are throwing everything at it. it's the wagner group,
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prisoners. some of them, we are told, are less afraid of the enemy, the ukrainian enemy, than falling backward because they are being beaten, treated so miserably. >> indeed. two months ago, vladimir putin, with fanfare, announced a mobilization to raise several hundred thousand new troops. what happened was about 300,000 young russian men, who would have been eligible to be conscripted, headed in droves for the borders and have left russia. huge brain drain, by the way. putin is really scrambling. your point, he is trying to gain manpower. he is going to prison, homeless shelters, taking people in their 50s and 60s. i'm in my early 60s. i don't think the u.s. army is searching for me to send me into combat. putin will take anything. it's a sign of how difficult
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this fight has become for him. >> the other signal here is that russia -- putin has replaced his commander leading the forces. does this signal dissent in the kremlin? >> it does. i know him. i know his boss, the minister of defense. they are in an internal struggle inside the kremlin to gain the ear, to hold the ear of vladimir putin. the competing faction is the individual who leads this wagner group. i think that putting him in command is a way to signal that the russians are going to continue to use the same tactics, the same team. i think that's, frankly, bad news for the kremlin. this is the team that has brought putin a great deal of losses across this theater.
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he is not exactly reaching out to find a new innovator. he is taking same old story and putting him in command. not a smart move. >> as we approach the first anniversary of the war, of course, february 24th. admiral stavridis. thank you so much. narrow margins. kevin mccarthy rewarding the far right of his caucus with key positions. what does it mean for getting anything done on the hill, especially the debt ceiling? we will talk about that coming up. stay with us. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease. and you may lose weight. adults lost up to 14 pounds. ozempic® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes.
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says, the treasury will need to take extraordinary measures to prevent the u.s. from defaulting and explains those measures will then run out in june. we are facing a june/july deadline of the last ditch effort to raise the debt ceiling. this has been done in a bipartisan way. there are sometimes standoffs and shutdowns in the past, but they get resolved. what's the forecast for this thin republican majority going along with it? >> reporter: you are right there have been shutdowns in the past. what we are talking about here and what you are laying out is not a government shutdown, it's does the u.s. default on its debt, defaults on its line of credit? that would be catastrophic for the economy. we did this battle last year. that was the constant reminder. as republicans take the majority here in the house, the concern has long been, what happens when it comes to these pinch points
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on spending battles? there's back and forth when the debt ceiling is reached. this battle will be in june and july. what mccarthy floated as recently as yesterday is maybe trying to do some kind of deal with democrats where they cap spending in order to move forward on a temporary debt ceiling hike. that's something that democrats say they are not interested in, in part, because they think the debt ceiling should be raisedge. mccarthy might be in trouble with his right flank for doing that. the last time they made a deal like that is president trump in 2019, and there werehyper conservatives saying it's not acceptable. it's a reminder of the balancing act mccarthy has in front of him on key battles like this that could impact the u.s. credit. >> now we have a letter from the
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head of the oversight committee. it appears to try to link hunter biden with the fact that classified documents were found at the wilmington home, because he was staying at the home at various periods during his separation and divorce, i suppose. and because he is a member of the family. this is a very close-knit family. does this seem to be a stretch? are they trying to connect hunter biden to the classified document controversy? >> reporter: we know that's what it seems like in the new letter. we know as head of the oversight committee, he is going to be looking into hunter biden's laptop, one of the key things on the agenda for that committee. the other thing that's important is you read this letter in the last few minutes, is that it is relevant to something that speaker mccarthy said yesterday which is that they aren't sure yet what committee will run point on the biden documents
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investigation. it might be that new select committee that they just formed, what they call the weaponization of government committee. it might be oversight. it might be somewhere else. this could be him trying to say he should have the power over the biden documents investigation because it dovetails with something else they are investigating. this could be jostling to make sure he has control over that. this is another example of republicans seizing on this moment. >> by the way, it should be senate intelligence and house intelligence, because they have the clearances to review all of these things. they should be looking at the damage control. ali vitali, thank you for all of that. millions today are mourning the sudden death of lisa marie presley, elvis presley's only child. she was rushed to the hospital thursday, two days after appearing at the golden globes. she did not sound well on the red carpet that day. >> reporter: lisa marie presley,
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the daughter of elvis presley, passed away after suffering a cardiac arrest. overnight, a representative for her mom confirming presley's passing in a statement writing, she and the family are shocked and devastated by the tragic death of their beloved lisa marie. according to a sheriff's spokesperson, medics were able to find a pulse and transported her by ambulance to the hospital where she later died. two days earlier, she was at the golden globes. austin butler portrayed elvis. later, butler thanking presley and her mom in his acceptance speech. >> lisa marie, priscilla, i love you forever. >> reporter: bringing presley to tears. presley appearing unsteady during an interview on the red carpet. >> yeah. i'm going to grab your arm. >> reporter: this past sunday, she visited graceland to mark
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as well as my corvette. as i said earlier this week, people know i take classified documents and classified material seriously. >> joining me now is jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon. you had to deal with classified materials every single day. a lot of questions are being asked about, first of all, from the standpoint of the national archives and of whoever is supposed to handle these things, aren't they numbered, labeled, tracked from point a to point b? you get a document, you ask for a document if you are the president or vice president, after the presidential daily brief, you ask your military aide or national security advisor, i want to see something more on that, and so a document is handed to you. then what happens? you just take it with you to your post vice presidency office? isn't there a tracking
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mechanism? >> i suspect, andrea, what we're going to find out is that the then vice president, current president, didn't mishandle the documents himself but that staff when they were wrapping up his office, they co-mingled classified documents with unclassified documents and they placed it in different storage locations where he was going to be doing work at his residence and his office in washington. we have to let the facts proceed under the investigation. the best practice, of course, is to have cover sheets so they stand out so when you sweep documents together you can see. they don't necessarily have a numeric tracking record. that's a reform that's been discussed. i think the real issue, andrea, is not whether there was co-mingling. you unfortunately, it does happen from time to time. the question is, what do you do about it when you find it? in the two special counsel cases, we have two different
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reactions. in what we know is that in the biden case, they immediately called the archives.ly immediat justice department and gave the documents back. in the trump matter, it's important because three times the archivists went to them and they said, here is everything and they then found more than 100 classified documents. they sent a grand jury subpoena. they found 38 more classified documents. in the fbi search of mar-a-lago, they found another 100 plus documents. more than 300 documents on three separate occasions. these cases don't look anything alike. i would say when we train intelligence professionals, we train them to do the right thing. i think the biden case is an example as we know from the facts of the right thing. if the facts change, we will change our assessment. >> in the trump case, his lawyers signed an affidavit saying everything had been turned over and it had not been. after all of this, they found more documents in another storage space in florida.
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that said, the handling of this, not announcing it right away, okay, so you don't announce it two days or six days before the election, bad, but not grievous. then you sit on it until it is leaked to a network newscast and don't reveal it and when you reveal that, you don't explain that you also had more in wilmington, which they knew at the time? why not put it all out there? you have white house briefings that are really -- i don't know how to describe the level of the white house briefings on this. >> i can't explain it. i understand the political context in which we are operating. from a pure national security matter, if they are returning documents and they are complying with the law and doing what they should be, they actually should say that. they should be proud of it. some could say it might have made them look back because the comparisons to the trump case. i think this is the ultimate point, which is when you hold
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the two cases together, not only do they look different, they look diametrically opposed. they are the opposite end of the spectrum. as i referenced, there are training mechanisms to train people, what happens if you find co-mingling, if you find classified information in a place it shouldn't be stored? there's a right way to do business and a wrong way to do business. i don't think the biden administration has anything to hide. i wish they would have come forward. i think it's a good example for professionals who have to handle this about what you do when you find co-mingled documents. >> do you think the attorney general should have appointed a special counsel in this case? this elevates it to a new level politically. it probably prolongs decision making if it turns out there is no real wrongdoing here. >> it might. i think it's probably in an abundance of caution. merrick garland is trying to say i'm above politics or the department should be above politics. it makes it seem like there's an
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even-handedness to this. the cases are going to be decided on the fact pattern. we don't know all the facts in the biden case. the facts in the trump case are clearcut there was criminal wrongdoing. we will see what the two special counsels opine. >> the fact that we have comer, the new hit them with everything you have, whether or not it matters, that whole new committee is now saying in a letter to the white house counsel, hunter biden stayed at the house. did he have access to the documents that were in the house? he had foreign investments. trying to connect these two investigations. it should be the intelligence committee, i would assume, that have oversight. >> that seems strained in my view. i think there are legitimate questions to be asked about the handling of documents. i actually think there are questions to be asked about whether or not there should be reforms to the way presidential records are gathered and stored. if you went back to the presidential records of george
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bush and barack obama and donald trump, you would probably find that there were co-mingling. the question isn't co-mingling, which is not good. but it does happen. what do you do about it? i think we have to set a good example for people who have access to classified information. let's show them what right looks like. >> thank you so much, jeremy bash. it's good to see you. hot water. how global warming, melting gla glacier are fuelling the deadly weather trends we are rorts" oc
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joining us now is blayne alexander. talk to us -- i can see what you are seeing right there. all this destruction. >> reporter: absolutely. what's incredible is that we could turn our camera almost in any direction and you could just see what the storm has done to this part of selma. on this street, this is one of the areas hit the hardest. you got house after house after house that really almost look the same. power poles in the middle of the street. a lot of roads are just simply impassable because you have trees in the way, you have power poles in the way. i want to direct you over here. this was a woman that we just met. this house that you are looking at, this was her mother's house. right next door is her house. both of them are now not able both are not able to be lufted because the storm blew through and it stroid them both.
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we're hearing stories like this just throughout selma. it's important to point out we're close to downtown. you know this area well. it's an historic area. it played a big role in the civil rights movement. when we look at pockets, we see many that look just like this. it shows just how powerful the storm is. a lot of places not too far away from me, an historic church now is just bricks in the street. it shows just how strong the storms are. i want to talk about the deaths. what's remarkable is even though we saw all the destruction here in selma, no fatalities here. all of those in the state of alabama were one county over. it was a mobile home park that was hit hard. very similar to a lot of situations like this. >> thank you so much. and this extreme weather just like what we have been seeing in alabama has become an apt all
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man, director of the penn center for science, sustainable and the media the at the university of pennsylvania. also author of the new book the new climate war. first of all, as we heard last year was one of the warmest on record. what are the implications of this trend? >> thanks. it's good to be with you. it's not good news we're discussioning. s this part of an ongoing trend. last year was one of the five or sixth warmest years on record depending on which particular assess the you look at. and there's some variability in the climate system related to la nina. that means more cold water at the surface that made last year look cooler than it otherwise would have been. the warmest eight years on record, if you look at the heating of the oceans, we have a study just the other day on that, what that shows is that every year has been a new record. the oceans average out that
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variability at the surface. it's a better measure of the warming of the climate system, and every of year of the past five years has set a new record. >> the u.s. made major commitments towards the future of global warming and chair commitments to bring it down by 52%. has this been hurt by the war in ukraine and this increased reliance on fossil fuels? >> that's a great question. and there's no doubt that we have seen this surge in energy demand. the post covid economic rebound and the situation, the russian aggression against ukraine has led to a shortage of gas in europe. it's led to an increased reliance on natural gas. at a time there have been requests for sanctions, there's
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been this doubling down in temporary fossil fuel extraction and fossil fuel dependence because of these short-term political events. but in the long-term, we do continue to see a shuft away from fossil fuel energy towards renewable energy. global carbon emissions have stopped increasing, that's the good news. but the bad news, we have to bring them down about 50% within the next decade to prevent a catastrophic warming of more than 3 degrees fahrenheit, where we'll see far worse events than what we're seeing now. that's going to require substantial additional progress. we have made some progress over the last two years from the standpoint of global negotiations, global kmutmentes to lowering car been emissions, but there's more work that needs to be done. >> and there's one study that shows that by 100 that half of the world's glaciers will have
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melted. even with the commitments made in paris. >> there's a certain amount of lit the ma change locked this. a certain amount of warming of the ocean. it's contributing to set sea level rise. we're going to deal to deal with the and the fossil fuels weave already burned. the carbon pollution we have already produced. what the science tells us is that as soon as we stop putting pollution into the atmosphere, the planet stops warming up. and these impacts stop getting worse. so that's what our focus has to be. getting down to 50% reduction in this decade and net emissions down to zero by mid-century. if we can do that,s we prevent warming of 3 degrees fahrenheit and prevent the worst consequences. >> i love your optimism.
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