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meeting with japan's prime minister. but there's an issue loming over the white house. the mounting fallout over biden's handling of classified documents during his post obama years. thbz has learned one of the classified documents found at the d.c. office was marked with the highest classification in the u.s. government. that's according to a senior u.s. official and another person familiar. we got that development after attorney general merrick garland announced he's appointed a veteran prosecutor to serve as special counsel to review the documents. ahead, what we're learning about hur and how he's proceeding. plus the tight rope both the white house and justice department are walking considering there's another special counsel investigating president trump. also this morning, devastation across the southeast. search and rescue operations are underway after tornadoes in multiple states. >> by the grace of god, we all survived. >> we jumped out the car and we

all got in the freezer. a lot of praying and calling on jesus. >> several people are confirmed dead, one as young as 5, with rescuers saying the death toll could rise. we have an update from one of the hardest-hit areas. devastating storms heading for california as the state is still reeling from mud slides and massive floods. we're going to start with the mounting fallout for president biden over discovery of batches of documents from his post obama years. joining me now is ken dilanian. first to report that a second batch of documents had been found. mike memoli at the white house, ali vitali on capitol hill, tom delaware preece, who served during the bush administration. he works at the same firm as the new special counsel. so mike, first to you.

you report multiple aids who worked for president biden in the final days of the obama administration have been interviewed by federal law enforcement. walk us through the interviews and the tight rope the white house is walking between addressing this head on and not divulging too much information this an active investigation. >> one reason why this reporting from it myself and carol lee is so important is because it gives us the most insight into what may have happened that led these documents to be found in multiple locations of the president since he left office in the obama administration in 2017. among the individuals interviewed by law enforcement is kathy chung. she was the executive secretary for vice president biden. she was involved in helping to pack up his office in the west wing in january of 2017. the process to make room for the incoming president.

they believe this was ab inadvertent case that there was never intention to take any documents from the white house that should have been a national archive document because of the presidential records act or certainly a classified document. i'm told by an official at the white house that the reason for this is they don't want to be seen as interfeerping with an ongoing investigation. they are argue figure they were to engage in providing more granule details, that's putting more information that can be seen as trying to influence that debate. this is an argument we have heard them make in a different form as it relates to not wanting to be seen as interfering at all with investigations of donald trump. the former president and potential future rival of joe

biden in the election now in this case it's both potentially a little bit of a sin veer desire to be seen as abiding by this impartiality of the justice department, but also a shield, as we see the briefing room right now with reporters. those have been largely unsatisfying for those of trying to get additional details, including an important question going forward which is would president biden be interviewed himself as part of this ongoing investigation. >> the doj is investigating a sitting president. and separately a former president, what are we learning about the new special counsel and how he will be handling the specific case with president biden? >> the white house doesn't have to be silent. it's a legal strategy under investigation, but if you think you're innocent, you're free extoex plain the facts to the public. they have choezen got to do that. but in terms of rob hur, he's a

registered republican who served in a top job in the trump justice department. he was an aid to rod rosenstein when robert mueller was being appointed. then he went on to become the trump-appointed u.s. attorney in maryland. he's a republican who has won wide praise for his handling of a variety of complexes cases from gang violence to public corruption. and most people i talked to think he's going to play this down the middle, by the book. he will no doubt set up his own staff and have offices away from the justice department. he will build on the review that's already been conducted by the republican u.s. attorney in chicago, who has been interviewing aids, but didn't have subpoena power or a grnd jury. hur can call upon all those tools. i would expect at some point he would request an interview with president biden to ask him what he knew about these documents. so we should be waiting for that

to happen. >> so you worked in the doj and at the same firm as the special counsel. what can you tell us about how he tackles his work and what do you expect for him in this case? >> in mien, rob hur is the perfect choice for this job. he's super smart, he has sound legal judgment and a man of integrity. as you reported, he's received wide bipartisan praise throughout his career. i think he's going to tackle this investigation precisely as he pledged he would do independent, dogged. he will get to the bottom of this. i'm 100% certain he will seek to interview president biden as part of this process. the first few days he has to get a staff, track the documents and then we will await his final determination. >> how long do you think something like this could take? >> i would say months,s no years. these independent investigations are like a gas that expands to fill the allotted space. but rob is going to move superer

quickly. the record is not going to be that extensive. the scope of this investigation is narrow so as i said, i would anticipate months, not years. >> republicans wanted a special counsel. they got one. how should we anticipate house republicans to proceed here? we know republicans already suggested biden-focused investigations would be a top priority. >> reporter: they are already moving forward on those. they will continue doing so, even with the existence of the special counsel on this. when doj is involved, it becomes that much more difficult for congressional committees to get the information that they are requesting. nevertheless, we're seeing newly minted chairs of judiciary and intel already asking for more information on this. whether it's from the director of national intelligence for damage awe setsments and just a better sense of what's in the documents at hand here. many of them, especiallien the senate side, did the same thing after the mar-a-lago documents in the trump instance were made public aez well. there's parody in terms of what they are asking for.

in the last few minutes, what we're watching is the potential for some of these committees to be jockeying for control of the investigations. i listened to speaker kevin mccarthy saying that whoever looks into these biden documents is unclear in terms of what committee it would be housed under. we have seen the oversight chairman in the last few minutes trying to link these biden documents and the existence at the biden home to the residence that hunter biden was using at the time, trying to link the fact that he's already investigating hunter biden. now he wants a claum over the biden documents as well. unclear at this point which committee will be running point on that, but this could be one way they take this into their per view, as thee committees push forward as doj does the same. >> one of the classified documents found at biden's d.c. office was marked with the highest classification in the u.s. government. the top secret sensitive information. members of congress are caling

for a national security damage assessment. could one have already been done in the early stages of the investigation before we even knew about the existence of these documents? >> it's possible. we haven't had reporting that that early investigation included a risk assessment. i don't think it's likely, but we're hearing reports even from ken that the fbi has been out there talking to people. but yet, nothing that sounds quite like a risk or damage assessment. i think there's a larger issue that arises from that. which is we have way too much top secret information out there. we clearly either aren't following the guidelines and protocols for having those documents leave a skiff, the secure appropriate room for such matters, and that's what i hope this gets to. just a better method of handling and maybe even ab outright prohibition on removing top secret from that, no matter what

your rank or title. it's fraught with peril. >> tom, you recently said that although both joe biden and donald trump were found to have classified documents, biden has a better defense. can you explain? >> sure. i think biden's defense is twofold. number one, that the volume of documents that he allegedly took out or did take out from the government is smaller. a small volume than what president trump did. second point is the biden team is going to emphasize cooperation. the trump team had long negotiations with the justice department and the justice department didn't feel that the trump team was fully forthcoming, whereas the biden team is flagging transparency and cooperation. i'm not sure they have lived up to those promises, but if i were in biden's shoes, those are the lines of defense awould deploy. >> trans, you were talking about what could change here in terms of removing documents from the skiff. who is responsible for making sure that what's there stays there, and who would you want to

see be subject to changes or stricter restrictions? >> what i'd like to see since both investigations involve end of term transitional issues, why won't the national archives just take over at that point. why is it up to a relatively mid-or low-level clerical position or assistant to start boxing things up and hope they get it right. what i'd like to see is the national archives come in and say it's the end of the administration. we're here to help you get it right. this has to come back to us. we don't see this accidental boxing of things. that's what i'd like to see. >> while we have been talking, it appears that speaker mccarthy has sent president biden an invitation to a state of the union address on february 7th. what do we know? >> mccarthy saying it's his solemn obligation to inviolent the president for this state of the union update.

that would be about four weeks from now on february 7th. and i do think it's important for us to point out. this is jet another period. the outset of a period of divided government. it will be a time when mccarthy and his conference view their role as the majority here in congress. largely to be a check on the biden administration. we have spent this entire segment talking about the investigations that are already beginning in earnest from multiple committees here, republican led, asking for documents, even just in the instance of the latest requests from the oversight committee. they are asking for information by the end of january, which means biden would be coming here for a state of the union address in the midst of multiple committees investigating him on the documents front as well as his families and other pieces of his administration. >> thank you all. coming up, at least eight people were killed by a powerful series of tornadoes that ripped through the southeast yesterday. with alabama bearing the brunt

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who rode this out in a bathtub. >> reporter: someone took the brunt of this storm, as it made its way through, but it traveled into where we are this morning. at least seven people have been reported killed as a result of this incredibly dvastating twister. the damage just a glimpse of what is behind me. i had a chance to meet amber johnson and her son james, and they join me now. thank you for taking time to share your story. to put things in perspective, your home used to be about 30 yards behind you. >> that's right. >> reporter: you get that phone call from your mom telling you to seek shelter. walk me through what happened next. >> i moved sol covers to the bathtub and grabbed some stuff ed animals for the baby. we were playing on my phone. i heard a noise and picked him up and leaned over and told him

to hold on to mommy. >> reporter: you describe that sound of what happened next and i know it's tough to describe but you started where your home originally stood. what happened? >> i felt it pick us up and we leaned forward a little bit. and i'm not sure what happened after that. hifs hit in the head. and i stood up about right over there. >> so you stand up out of the bathtub. you look around. you're outside. and i guess this is what's left of your home. i want to point out here, that bathtub they originally sought shelter in is down in that ditch. if we can push in there, you'll see it at least 50 yards from where they originally sought shelter. and when you see where the tub ended up that you started in, what do you think?

>> we were thrown out of it and that's really a blessing because i don't know if we would have been able to stand up in that with all the rain coming down on top of us still. >> how is james doing? >> he's okay. he has some stitches and glue on his fore head and that's it. they did a ct scan and everything was fine. just a cut on his fore head. >> reporter: what have you been able to salvage, if anything? >> we found -- i got harry potter books for christmas and that was untouched. it was still wrapped in plastic they are in great condition. and hi son has pokemon cards that were safe. >> reporter: i heard a cheer about an hour ago. a dress was recovered. >> my wedding dress was recovered. we have somebody willing to fix it if there's any damage. it was in one of those protective bags. i haven't looked at it yet. >> i can't imagine you'll have any trouble finding someone to fix that dress for you.

glad you're okay. and this story is one of the bright spots in a county that's appeared to take the brunt of this storm. i mentioned seven deathsen cop firmed here. incredibly rural area. search and rescue operations are still on going to make sure everyone is accounted for here from this twister outbreak that the national weather service is surveying today to see just how many touched down. >> amazing woman, amazing mother, hold on to mommy. i can't believe that story. bill, let's talk about what we're seeing. could more tornadoes be on the way? >> i would be in shock 24 hours later. i would be a bubbling mess. she's as much of a rock as i have ever heard in my life. it sounds like she saved their lives. that's what we tell everyone. you have to know where to go at that last second. she did exactly what she had to

do. she went to the most interior room, which typically can the bathroom. you get the blankets and the sheets and the pillows and put them over your ha head. and somehow even though she separated from the house and tub, that's an incredible story. so we have been watching a shift in what we call typical tornado alley. when i was growing up, tornado alley is texas, oklahoma, areas into kansas. that was this area. there's been a downward trend of tornadoes in this area and an upwards into areas from mississippi, alabama and into the tennessee valley. that's all similar to where we saw the storms yesterday. 35 in all. some of them were strong tornadoes like the one we just witnessed and saw. >> bill karins, thank you for that. let's go to the white house press briefing. they are taking reporters questions about documents found as well as the debt ceiling.

>> i'm not going to get into specifics or get ahead of what's going to happen. i'm not going to get into hypotheticals. what i will say is we have addressed this multiple times and we're going to continue to fully cooperate with the department of justice and we respect that process and that's what we're going to do. >> he hopes to speak about this soon. when can people expect to hear from him? >> that's something that i can't -- i don't have a magic wand here. i don't know when that's going to happen. what i can say is his team is going to fully cooperate with the department of justice. let's not forget the president said during the campaign that when it comes to the department of justice independence, he respects that. and that is something that he had said was incredibly important to make sure that they had their independence. that's why we say we're going to make sure that they have their independence and that's why i'm saying we're going to refer to

the department of justice. >> let me just ask you big picture question here. does the white house broadly speaking have an obligation to share not just with the national archives, but with the american people when the existence of classified information is found in a private location? >> there's a process in this. >> is it the policy of the white house that they should share that information not just with the national archives, but with the more than people? >> i'll say this. we have been transparent in the last couple days. there's an ongoing process. we have spoken when it is appropriate. and we have shared -- i have been here every day from wednesday taking your questions on this. the white house counsel has put out a very extensive multiple statements on this as well. and you all, i know you all have been talking to my colleague in the white house counsel.

so the actions that we took were right actions that his team took in dealing with the department of justice and also the archives. >> you have answered questions when the press has broken. >> because it's an ongoing process it is it is an ongoing process. there's a process here. the department of justice is independent. we respect that ross. but again, i have taken questions -- i can take 2 questions to 100 questions, i have answered your questions almost every day on this issue. and again, anything else that you may have, anything that's related to the review, i would refer you to the department of justice. >> the president campaigned on the argument that he would restore confidence. we know he's in the process of deciding whether to officially announce he's running for reelection. does this episode undercut that argument? that he would restore confidence

because here we have in the headlines that he's now under investigation. >> he's restoring independent in the department of justice. when we're saying we're going to refer you to the department of justice, that's restoring independence as it relates to issues like this. that's important to the president. it's been consistent. what i'm saying about investigations has been consistent for the last two years. you heard me over and over again when it comes to a legal manner like this, we have always referred to the department of justice. so there's nothing here. that's what you're seeing. and again, this has been done in a transparent way. when it relates to how this was dealt with, the president take this is seriously. any other questions you may have about this issue and the review, would refer you to the department of justice.

you have been in touch with my colleagues. i would suggest that you continue to reach out. >> you describe a process, but it feels like a strategy. to protect the president from political damage. was it the hope and expectation this would remain a private matter? >> that's your version of the case. >> i have been clear here and answered that question multiple times in different versions. . there's a process here. we're going to respect the process. this is part of the department of justice process. we're cooperating fully. we're cooperating fully in this process and the president believes that the justice department needed to be restored.

that's what you have seen in the last two years. and i want to be consistent in what i'm saying. i want to be prudent in what i'm saying when i say that we are going to defer any questions related to this to the department of justice and any other items that you have. if you don't want to talk to the department of justice, you're free to talk to the white house counsel office. i know you have been in touch with my colleague there is. >> let me just ask you. often times the careers of the press secretaries it becomes a time they are asked what they knew and when they knew it. were you or any member of your staff involved in the crafting of the strategy as to when this it disclosure should be made in advance of cbs news breaking the news? >> no. >> did you have a question? >> do you have a position on how high the debt limit should be raised? >> i don't have a position on that. what i can say more broadly -- what i'm saying is that more broadly speaking, not going to get into the specifics of that, what i can say is we believe

when it comes to the debt limit, it's been done in a bipartisan way over the years. and decades. it should be done in a bipartisan way and it should be done without conditions. that's important here. so we're going to continue to encourage and ask congress to take action ask that's where we're going to leave it at this time. we're not going to do any negotiations and it should be done without conditions. >> is this entirely for congress? >> our office of affairs has been in touch with the new congress to make sure that they know who to reach out. the appropriate people to reach out to the office of affairs. so we're always having conversations with members of congress. the president always has multiple conversations with members of congress. he has a lot of long-time friends who are over on the other side of pennsylvania. so that is something that continues. but when it comes to this, when it comes to the debt limit t

should be done without conditions. it was done under the last president three times in a bipartisan way. so this should continue. >> pretty good resolve yesterday on the heels of the job data, which was pretty strong. is it fair to say the white house is taking this a soft landing should look like? >> we are going to continue to monitor this white house press briefing, but i want to bring back mike memoli from the white house. let's talk about some of the questions and answers here because our own kristen welker was in there. first off, it was asked will the president sit down with the special counsel for an interview? he will cooperate fully and won't get ahead of the investigation. another question, does the white house have an obligation to the american people in addition to

notifying the doj about the existence to these documents? and the press secretary saying there's a process. they have bye-bye transparent here. in the past, you have said some of these white house press briefings have been not been satisfactory when it comes to answering some of the questions that are still out lying. was today any different? >> frankly, these briefings have the era of a broken record. the press secretary has been in touch with the white house koum's office to have discussions about what she can speak to from the podium. the directives seem to be to not go beyond what the white house counsel's office itself has put out publicly in terms of information, mostly it should be noted in response to press reports the first the report monday and then in subsequent cases, that confirmed our own exclusive reporting about a second location at the time that had been identified where documents were found.

so we talked about this a bit earlier. it's worth expanding on this idea, which is from the very first days of this administration, they have been talking about a firewall that they were reimposing after the trump administration between the activities of the white house, the white house staff, the white house officials and the activities of the justice department. they were entering the situation in which the former president himself was going to be a matter of investigations and wanted to make it clas there would be no interference as biden said during the course of the campaign that the attorney general should not be the personal attorney. they are trying to stick to this from the podium. >> mike memoli, thank you. coming up, more republican members of congress are calling for george santos to step down. but not the leaders of the party. so what's next for him on the hill? what does this mean for his constituents? does this mean fo constituents on the subway app. like this one! 50% off?! that deal's so good we don't even need an eight-time all-star to tell you about it. wait what? get it before it's gone on the subway app!

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and david jolly is also here. so garrett, first to you. are other republican lawmakers on the hill joining in the calls for his resignation today? >> reporter: they have skipped town, as of yet afternoon, so it's hard tore pin folks down. as they were leaving yesterday, we get more republicans coming out and joining the rest of mr. santos freshmen class. nancy mace calling on hum to resign. one statement on twitter it was his lies about losing folks in the holocaust that were the final line from him. so it really seems to be a matter of when and where we pin folks down. the entire republican conference seems frustrated, if not embarrassed by george santos. but speaker mccarthy made the determination he needs to be given due process and have the

opportunity to defend himself should he take it. both publicly and before the ethics committee. until then, he's going to have his support. i'll add in my experience covering congressional scandals, these things -- if somebody were to resign, these things don't happen by degree. you don't have somebody wear down. it's usually what we have heard from george santos. i'm not going anywhere. right up until the point they go. >> you have more work to do. thank you so much for joining us. george, let's go to you. today residents of santos' district, as well as democratic legislators, have launched the where's george campaign to urge santos to talk to constituents. what can you tell us about that and what people are telling you? >> reporter: people here in the district not holding their punches. that campaign essentially trying to oust george santos from what has been hiding. they say he hasn't been here in his district office. the lights have come on, but

he's not made his presence known. people are being urged to find him out here in public, take a picture of him and post it all over social media. the idea is if he won't come to us, we'll make you come to us. people very upseth saying they can't wait to see this man resign saying he doesn't represent their interests. i spoke with one voter who said she's so frustrated by everything that has been trabs pyring that their whole community is the laughing stock of the nation as they wait for this whole scenario to unfold. >> you're not representing us because we don't know who you are. you'll find someone else to represent us who is honest. >> i want him out. ooud like him prosecuted too. i'd like them to throw the book at this guy. this is as low as you get. >> i think he's going to hide in washington and never represent the people and never going to be

there for us. >> reporter: as you can see, people not pleased at all. but for all that, i do want to add we did speak to a santos supporter who came here not long ago telling me, look, i want this guy to represent me. i don't care about the lies and the education. what he did tail light me, if he ends up being found guilty of any of the crimes he may be accused of now or even in the coming weeks, as we lure into that ethics investigation, he said then, maybe then i'd want him to step down. but for now, he wants his vote to be counted and wants jarge santos to stay in office for the next two years. >> voters saying we don't even know who you are. david, how much could santos actually accomplish as a congressman by not stepping down? what do you attribute his refusal? >> he's not going to accomplish anything.

chairs are not going to give him grace to deliver for his constituents. what they will probably do is not call on him to resign or kick him out. the constitution doesn't provide for that. unless he's indicted and kwukted. there will be the pressure and he would be kicked out of the house. but what you'll see is mccarthy and hudson, who is now in charge of the house republicans campaign arm, probably already looking for another republican to run in two years. they don't want santos to get the nomination in two years and lose to a democrat. so they will start to work to find a republican that can beat santos in a republican primary. for those starting to call on him to resign, that's easy now. it would have been harder before last friday's speaker vote. we have to put in context the silence of republicans before the speaker vote. understand if they had forced santos from getting seated last friday, those five republicans

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russia appears to be gaining new momentum in its war with ukraine today. russia's defense ministry is claiming their forces have take control of the town of soledar in the eastern part of ukraine. it marks the first victory in months, but ukrainian officials are denying russia has control of the town saying they are still holding on in the counter attack. nbc news has not verified the claims by either side. matt bradley joins me now from the southwestern part of ukraine. also with me is retired army lieutenant steph twitty. so what do we know so far about this victory russia is claiming, which we haven't verified? >> it sounds this vukt ri is true because it's been 72 hours since the first attempt by the owner of this private military contractor asserted that he had actually single handedly taken the city of soledar.

we have heard from the russians, the regular army for the first time in three days acknowledging they have taken the city. for the first time giving credit to the private army. this is an interesting development because we haven't really heard the russian ministry of defense use the name of that private military force, that private army by name. this has been a really brutal battle. we have been seeing this private army, which constituted mostly of convicts from russia recruited from prisons with the promise it would be given a pardon sending wave after wave of these convictions who is have nothing else to lose. ukrainians are expendable men being thrown at the ukrainian line. that's what tipped the balance. really at the end of the day, this is interesting. this is kind of a political

vanity project. this man who is trying to raise himself in the ranks in the kremlin, i spoke with an intelligence official and here's what he told me. >> they are doing all of in soledar in order to further his political ambitions. >> i would say that's the case. in particular, strengthening his position in the apparatus that surrounds putin. this is his only way to survive in the russian federation. >> reporter: if he's trying to climb the ranks, he's doing it on the backs and over the courses of his own men, his own private army. >> lieutenant genera promised to provide everything necessary for the battles and without interruption. it's a sign here that ukrainian forces won't so easily let up. what does this signal to you

about which forces have the upper hand at the moment? >> what i will tell you here when you take a look at soledar, there's nothing stralkic about capturing soledar. there is a symbolic piece to this. the commentator just talked about it. that symbolic piece, they have taken this ground is two things. number one, it sends a message to the russian public that our soldiers can win on the battlefield. and number two, it boosts the morale of the russian soldiers on the ground. he's been the one that's led this particular fight. the russian soldiers have been supporting them, but it's still the moral boost. the russians have not been doing so well in this battle. for the ukrainians, it's not so much a huge loss for them.

they can recover from this. we have seen them recover in the past when they lost ground. once they get the necessary nato equipment and vehicles that are coming in, i think that will position them for a good counterattack after winter. >> thank you both. up next, remembering lisa marie presley after her shocking death just days after appearing at the golden globes. how she protected her father elvis' legacy and left her own impact on the music world. e mus. . like this one! 50% off?! that deal's so good we don't even need an eight-time all-star to tell you about it. wait what? get it before it's gone on the subway app! your heart is the beat of life. if you have heart failure, entrust your heart to entresto. entresto helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby.

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passionate strong and loving woman i have ever known. nbc news has learned the final resting place will be at graceland next to her son and where her late father is buried. >> i want to bring in matt, syndicated radio host, she is one of the most famous performers of all time, the daughter of one of the most famous performers, and that is a pretty big shadow and she found her own way and can you tell us about how she forged a path and what she means to fans. >> she means so much to fans because she was a really incredible woman and it came as a shock to everybody in the music world. everybody has been reacting. she ended up forging her own path, sort of making records herself, with people like great producers and did her first album, back in 2000, called "to whom it may concern" and then did another record in 2006, called "now what" and in 2012, she did one called "storing grace" and she released singles

she had done duets with her father like "in the ghetto" and "i love you because" and when people saw her perform and listened to her smoky voice, people, fans were really im pressed and blown away by that, and you know, it casts a long shadow to be, like you said, the daughter of of one of the most famous men of all time, absolutely, and certainly one of the greatest. and like i said, he went through everything, before everything else, you know, all of the other things that people have been through through, not only the rise to fame, and the influence, but the pitfalls of fame, and the other things, and the prescription meds, you know, the issues before you know anybody really knew what that was all about, but she was an in vebl woman. you know, i had meaningful conversations about life and music and super passionate about it and i have to say that i really feel that she was a real shining light, and you know,

what her mom priscilla said about her is absolutely true, a very strong woman, unbelievably kind and caring so i sort of go, saw her go through so many things and i had only become friendly with her in the last few years, but having been through the marriages, and you know, having to deal with all of that, and you know, of course, the loss of her son, which was just heartbreaking, it was amazing. and i was so happy to see her, you know, at the golden globes, and out there, celebrating with her mom, the life of her father, and the movie that came out and brought so many young fans and awareness about elvis, and just great, everything that he meant to rock and roll, and to entertainment, so it was just so many of us, and i think we were just in complete shock. and 54 years old is way too young. >> i got to be quick with you, you touched on it a little bit,

how did she keep her father's legacy alive? >> she kept her father's legacy alive in a lot of ways. she charitable organizations that she did, got involved with in the name of the estate of elvis presley, an you know, of course, still being involved in graceland, and again, you know, by doing those duets with elvis, who loved her obviously, very, very much that was one of the other ways, and people really accepted that, when she did those duets with him, they thought it was actually a great thing, which, you know, natalie cole did it with nat king cole and other situations like that where their father is not alive, but i got to tell you that i think she made some great records too and her songs "ain't seen nothing yet" not to be confused with the overdrive song that she did, that makes you feel really great. and i think that she would have continued to release music but

she was definitely considered working on new material soon. but so much stuff had been happening in her life. and this has been a crazy week, we lost jeff beck, the great guitarist. >> it has been a week and as you mentioned, just a shock to the music world. thank you so much for your time. that does it for me this hour, i'll see you back here at 2:00 p.m. eastern. a programming note on tuesday, joy reid, trymaine lee, with national day of racial healing, live from new orleans, a town hall, tuesday, 0k p.m. eastern, here on msnbc, and streaming on peacock. katy tur picks up coverage next. peacock. katy tur picks up coverage next. u won't clock out. so u bring ubrelvy. it can quickly stop migraine in its tracks within 2 hours... ...without worrying if it's too late or where you are. unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks a protein believed to be a cause of migraine. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. most common side effects were nausea and tiredness.

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