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student loan safety net. under the plan which was first announced an august, federal loan borrowers would see a long lower monthly payment, have an easier path to forgiveness and unpaid interest would not be added to a borrowers loan balance. the plan would also reduce payments to zero dollars for borrowers who make less than $30,000 a year. and right now, there are about 8. 5 million federal student loan borrowers already enrolled in a number of repayment plants. this proposal is a path towards a single simplified option. but, it is still unclear when the new plan will be up and running. it has to go through a 30-day public comment period, and the administration will consider feedback before the plan is finalized. this is all taken shape as biden student loan debt cancellation plan remains stalled, awaiting the supreme court decision. moral arguments for their case are slated for the end of her. coming up on the second hour of ayman, some backroom deals, with the kevin mccarthy agreed to in order to win the speakership and why won't he

tell the american public? plus, the george santos candles continues to grow, house republicans refused of office. then, are worse that the week, we're putting the two craziest conspiracy theories against each other to see which gop controversy is truly more outrageous. i am ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. >> we begin this hour with breaking news. today, we learn more classified materials have been found in president biden's delaware residents, white house lawyer richard sober uncovered these documents on thursday. in a box that was initially discovered by the presidents personal lawyer's the day before. bringing the total number of batches of records found 23. now from breaking route news, we want to go to some backroom deals. his exchange for that coveted gavel newly elected speaker of the house kevin mccarthy similarly made a deal with the

devil. but will the american people ever find out the details? the beginning of the week, mccarthy managed to get his caucus in line and narrowly passed a rules package for the 118th congress. that package and tried to some of those concessions that mccarthy made to the hard-line members during his speakership battle. you know, you may remember the one that went 15 rounds. it included also a provision that would allow any single lawmaker to call evo to oust him. but perhaps what's more important is what the package didn't include. right now the republican caucus is abuzz with talks of a so-called secret three-page addendum. to the rules. and that document which was first reported by punchbowl news and later confirmed to axios by multiple gop aides and members, allegedly contains the quote, the most controversial concessions that mccarthy made in order to get elected. including the promise of key committee assignments to the party's most conservative members. however, it does appear that mccarthy may have learned something from donald trump's approach to doing business. never leave a paper trail. politico is now reporting that

the three page document that has everyone talking may not even exist. instead, party leaders say those agreements were simply sealed with a handshake and never formalized in writing. that hasn't stopped some republicans though from discussing their conversations with leadership candidly, bragging about what they managed to secure an exchange for their votes. political pokes it, quote, the boasting has heightened worries within the conference about working together in good faith for the next two years. nearly a full week after mccarthy's battle played out in straw narrowly public fashion, lawmakers and his conference are still striving to learn details of what's been promised and to whom. but the truth is this, it's not just that members of the speaker's caucus who are left in the dark, it's the rest of us. it's the american people. it's the public. this week, the republican party outlined how the house will function over the next two years and we're still left with two major questions. one, what exactly are those

rules? and to, who really holds the power within the republican conference? let's discuss this and more with them grad a congresswoman becca balint, she made history as the first woman and the first openly gay person elected to represent that state. congresswoman, congratulations to you. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate you making time for us. let's start with one of those questions. based on the rules and concessions that we are aware of if there are many, who do you think really holds the power within the republican house conference at this moment? >> it's clear that the extreme right of the party holds the power. we saw that played out as you said 15 rounds of voting. we are supposed to get sworn in on tuesday, we weren't sworn in until the early morning on saturday -- extreme members of the party as i was crossing the aisle during some of those breaks between voting, you had, as you are just speaking about, members of

the -- of their own conference, are very concerned about the deals that mccarthy made that none of us know about but if we read between the lines it seems that the promises made about very important committees, rules committee being one of them. and i am concerned as we head into this congress that we are not gonna be able to get work done for our constituents because the agenda has been hijacked by this extreme wing. >> one of the concessions that we are aware of is this ability to trigger a vote to oust the speaker with just one vote. and that means the house could essentially devolve into a crisis at any moment over any topic. what do you think it will be like to legislate under that kind of uncertainty? >> i think we've already seen what is going to be like. i think the dysfunction and the chaos is going to continue. obviously, that's a huge concession for the speaker to make, to have one member to be able to call for a motion to vacate. my son keep saying is mccarthy going to be our own liz truss? how long is he going to be an office? for someone who's willing to

cut these deals and essentially promise anything to get the speakers gavel is essentially not going to be in a strong position and i am hearing from members in his own conference that they feel like he gave away the farm on this. >> one of your fellow freshman colleagues republican george santos of new york is facing growing calls to resign. speaker mccarthy has said that the voters who elected centers should decide the matter. what do you make up the way the gop is handling this controversy? >> you can see how the folks on long island have been very clear in the last 24, 48 hours. even though the republicans are saying he needs to step down, this is an embarrassment for them, for the congress, but also for the american people. and i think it was clear that mccarthy was relying on his

vote for speaker. we're not hearing a lot from leadership in the house about what actions they may take. the only thing before it is mccarthy plans to seat him on committees. this is terrible. he should step down. the entire quality caucus in congress, that group of us who are out gay members of congress have as george santos to resign. that is what should happen. and it speaks to this erosion of ethics that we see within government and a lack of confidence that people have been elected officials. and i'm certainly hoping that he will see that the right thing to do for his constituents is actually to step down. >> i wonder if he will be able to say that. let me switch case if i can to this first week under republican leadership, at least the house. they wasted no time going after abortion rights. on wednesday, they passed legislation that could subject akhter's who perform abortions to criminal penalties, although that bill stands no chance passing the democratic -controlled senate. symbolically speaking, what is about like that tell you about the priorities of the

republican majority? >> they are marching towards a national ban on abortion. i don't think they're making any bones about that. and it's clear that what is important to them is not the health and well-being of women in america and for families, and for women to be able to make decisions about their own bodies. and the fact that this was part of the very first pieces of legislation to put forward, it is an indication of what's to come. and as somebody who led the push in vermont for a constitutional amendment to our constitution to protect reproductive freedoms, it's very disheartening to see that they will be building on this outrageous decision by the supreme court to overturn roe v. wade. i believe politicians should not be making decisions about women's reproductive health. and i know many people within my caucus, if not unanimous number of my fellow caucus

members on the democratic side know that this is going to be a hard fight for us. >> let me ask you about the breaking news that we left this hour with with these documents more of them being found. classified markings on them at president biden's presidents. what is your reaction to this latest discovery? and how do you think the administration has been handling this issue. our reporting at nbc suggest that there is some frustration among democrats for the way that the administration has been forthcoming and transparent, or like the rough, when it comes to this issue. >> i am pleased that there certainly hasn't been any indication that they have been obstructing justice. they have been turning over documents of course nobody is happy about this situation. we have to be incredibly careful with documents that are essentially there to protect all of us as americans. and i'm hoping that the biden administration will continue to

cooperate and i fully intend to be asking those questions within the conference. >> let me ask your personal question if i can, as i mentioned, you seem to be the first woman, and the first openly gay person to represent the state of vermont. you've spoken out before about how politics is not set up for women to succeed. tell me about some of the challenges that you've overcome on your journey to congress as you wrap up this first week on the job. >> the first woman to be elected to congress from vermont, but i was also the first leader of the vermont senate who is a woman. it's like a long time for us to have that representation. for me, the most important thing is to be a role model for all vermonters. certainly for young girls who are looking for role models. but also for anyone who sees themselves as outside -- the inside group, whether it's in politics or whether it's in their own communities. i want people to understand that they can have a place. and i'm hoping that my election will continue to be an indication to people that they

really can find a place in governments, in politics, regardless of gender, regardless of sexual identity. >> representation certainly matters. democratic congresswoman becca balint of vermont, congratulations again. i certainly appreciate your time this evening. >> thank you! >> coming, up the very latest on the george santos scandal. yes, it is a scandal that keeps growing. but, first richard louis is here with the headlines. >> ayman, good evening to. you are a supreme court -- whether former president bolsonaro incited the january 8th riots in brazil's capital. the request by the prosecutor generals office decided a video posted by bolsonaro on facebook. he claimed in it, luis da silva was not voted into office but chosen president those supreme court and brussels electoralist. e forecasters warned californians to brace for flooding and possible landslides from two new storms. over 20 people have died in california and storm since last month. the state's governor, gavin newsom, is asking residents to stay vigilant. and the winner is -- a main resident. who has won the 1. 3 billion dollar mega millions jackpot. we don't know her or his name yet. it's a second largest drawing in the game's history. the odds were in this one over

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congress more shameless than this serial liar we have come to know as george santos and it was that man. kevin mccarthy. this week, the speaker enable offered a full-throated defense of santos once again, despite more damning headlines including that santos was once connected to a florida-based ponzi scheme. let's be honest here, even if santos were found out to be barely made of himself, i think mccarthy wouldn't even abandon him because at the end of the day it is all about power for kevin mccarthy and he needs george santos to keep his grip on the gavel. there is no wiggle room when it comes to support. we know a number of house republicans didn't and still do not support mccarthy as speaker. and if there are any more defections, it makes it much harder for mccarthy to stay in his job. so as long as santos stays loyal to mccarthy, mccarthy will stay loyal to santas. no matter how many times we found out that he may have lived. let's bring in my saturday night panel to discuss this, pennsylvania state representative malcolm kenyatta and host of the podcast woke a f. and co-host of the new abnormal, danielle moodie. great to have with you. malcom, i will start with you. who here is more culpable, george santos was a liar or kevin mccarthy who, in the pursuit of power, will defend

santos till the end? >> ayman, they can't reject more denouncing because george santos or anthony, whatever his name is, he is literally the mascot for the house republican caucus, for the republican congress. you look at the lies that he's told about his background, about his name, about his credentials, he reminds me of the lies republicans told about having -- inflation. it tells me up the lies that they told about caring about doing something about crime. it reminds me of the lies that they told about not wanting to touch medicare or social security. so i think ultimately, santos is a good mascot to put out, they're a good distraction for what has been an awful start to this new congress where they have made it clear in full faith and credit of the united states is on the line. the basic safety net that our seniors depend on is on the

line. so they would much prefer us looking at the shiny object of anthony desantis instead of actually looking at bad politics. >> daniel, to representatives point, george santos seems to tip a fight of the heart of the republican party. it says something about the gop. all these lies and scams are not on their face disqualified. >> we have to understand, ayman, george santos couldn't have a arrived in the house republican caucus if not for donald trump. if it wasn't for 147 members of that conference deciding that they were not going to certify the election of joe biden. if not for them denying the fact that donald trump has been drifting and lying to the

american people and has been on his own crime spree. these people don't care about anything but power. it doesn't matter if you believe in lasers and out of space or if you lie about who you are in your entire as résumé, so i'm just remain whatever as they perceive as loyalty to donald trump into kevin mccarthy, then you are a okay. >> representative, not to make light of this, but what has been your favorite santos lie in this saga? is it him claiming to be a world-class volleyball player or trying to clear up he's not jewish or he is due-ish. >> oh my gosh. i'm in allegheny county right now, i learn that his name is not his name! i think that has to take the cake. from step one is what is your name? from kevin mccarthy says he was elected by his voters, his

voters did not have an actual opportunity to understand who they were voting for. so this is a fraud to the american people. i understand that he is under investigation. but my mind immediately goes to, did he lie on his election paperwork from the very start? >> what does it say to that but these deals kevin riccardi may have made, representative, with somebody like george santos to know that they are not known to the public, and at this stage we don't know what kevin mccarthy procedure center so what church santos told ken mccarthy to have some supported mccarthy at this point? >> it shows how feckless and how unable to lead mccarthy's. and you see our adversaries -- confuse at the stability of our country. what person who clearly puts his ambition above everything else, and you counter that with our house leader and joe and clinton who was on this network lesotho has led our caucus throughout similar tumultuous

situation. republicans here in pennsylvania we're just in disarray as they are as house representatives in d. c.. >> we've just heard of joe and clinton not too long ago about that as well. it's an important point you bring. up daniela, what do you make of these backroom deals that we don't know about. this alleged deal between kevin mccarthy and another member to get their support in exchange for kiss ayman's on committees? >> kevin mccarthy will make a deal with the devil is so long as he continues to hold on that gavel. that's what he did for the speakership. he has completely hollowed out the power that deposition had in order to just beat their puppet. so it's embarrassing. as someone who worked on

capitol hill and went to that place with such starry-eyed and the idea that i wanted to be a public servant and serve america. to see someone like george santos there is a stain. it's a stain on our government. it's a stain on the prestige that used to come with being a representative. in this country. i think it's an embarrassment. but mccarthy is not above embarrassment. he's an above doing whatever it takes in order to stay in power. >> to that point, who do you say, danielle, is more morally culpable between mccarthy and josh santos? >> that's a whole toss-up. i would say chemical. you would think that he would know better for the decades that he's been in conference. >> a fellow. point panel, stick around. we have a lot more to discuss after the break. republicans learn nothing from their losses in the midterms. we will explain.

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happen. and in the u.s. house this week as we mentioned earlier, the gop pushed through legislation that could subject doctors who perform abortions to criminal penalties. fortunately the bill will go nowhere in the democratic -controlled senate. malcolm and daniel are with me. also join me is -- barbara boxer on a federal and state level. >> the reality here, ayman, is that republicans will care about the voters because they continued to gerrymander and voter suppress. so they're not trying to reach voters. they're trying to hold on to power and do whatever it is they can to ensure that women, and people with uterus is in this country, become second-class citizens. and doctors live in fear of providing health care for women and they've -- they live in fear of potentially going to prison.

this is the kind of world that they want. and so the american voters need to continue to show up each and every election at the state, local, and federal level in order to vote these people out. because they don't care about what the people want. they care about power. >> barbara this week a florida congresswoman shared her moving personal experience and pre roe america where she was forced to carry a debt pedigree to term. i want to tell you a bit of what she had to say. watch. >> then at seven months the baby stopped moving. he was so pronounced dead. right inside of my womb. and the doctor was prohibited, by law, from inducing labor. i had to learn how -- first of all -- to handle the immense grief that comes with losing a child. and the fact that the corpse of that child was still within me. i begged, i plead, you we can't go back. lord have mercy, please have mercy on women like me. >> you know, she shared this story with the house while the house, rather, barbara, debated the bill --

with up to five years of prison without failing to resuscitate babies born alive during abortions. something that experts say is exceedingly rare. your reaction to that. >> lord have mercy is right. and when i was in the united states senate and before that in the house, i met women like the congresswoman who went through hell, who cried their eyes out, who we are just torn apart by this whole thing. and then these men, mostly men, but some women in the republican caucus want to take away the right of women and their families, and their doctor, to do what has to be done. let me say this, it's true that they don't care about the

voters. but they care about their hard right base. and if i was a fly on the wall, and i'll tell you this, i know i'm right, they decided on the first bills was going to say, thank you very much to the people that want to take away women's reproductive freedom. so they do this bill, which is ridiculous on its face because it's already against the law. there is no need for this bill. but they thought they could just tell them how great there. we all know, 99% of abortions are done way earlier than this. and when these tragic cases like the one that congresswoman talked about, that's let the

medical profession and let's let the families make this decision. and i think they're going to hit the polls again if they keep this up. >> milken, virginia republicans passed a born ally protection bill and introduced a bill banning abortions after 15 weeks after they lost the state senate special election. what does that tell you about their thinking? >> first i want to say there's no way to hear the congresswoman story and not be shaken to your core. she should've had to tell that story. and that's true of so many women have had to offer up some of the most intimate details. i've heard it all across the commonwealth of people begging us to not move forward with some of the scientifically inaccurate and these just dehumanizing pieces of legislation that we're seeing. and pennsylvania saw the same thing. they pass constitutional amendment last session to effectively ban abortion in pennsylvania. members of the house and senate want to do the same thing again. and you see what happens in virginia. they will pay a political cost for saying to over half of the population, you don't count, we are going to decide for you.

we know better. but the cognitive dissidents that it takes to wrap yourself repeatedly in the mantle of freedom, of liberty and then make as the core issue of your agenda to take away the very freedom and liberty of over half of our population -- the cognitive dissonance it takes to do that is shocking. >> and it still seems like they are not getting the message from voters after what happened all of last year. daniel, the attorney general in alabama suggests that pregnant women could be prosecuted for taking abortion bills and that might have sounded wacky a couple of years ago but it does seem like at least conservative -- in conservative states, it's a real possibility. >> you know what i would like to see democrats begin to do is that every time one of these pieces of legislation are put

up by republicans, i would like democrats to start putting up legislation that would require these states to actually take care of children. to provide free day care, to provide universal pre-k. to put up things like, if you actually care about children and you care about families, then this is what it looks like. because you are forcing people to carry unwanted pregnancies for no reason. you are not medical doctors. who are politicians. and to the senators point, yes, we should be looking at the medical professionals to dictate what needs to happen. not a politician who is never opened up a medical book. or who couldn't point out the uterus. please! it's ridiculous. democrats need to use this as an opportunity to say these people are forcing you to carry unwanted pregnancies but will do nothing for you once that baby comes out. they will do absolutely

nothing. and so, here all the pieces of legislation that will help you moving forward. >> how do you think, barbara, the democrats can keep rolling support over the way the gop's antiabortion stance continues? >> i don't think it's very hard at all. they see, people see. the very bill that you spend your time explaining this late term, a bill that the call born alive, that fairy bill was voted down and one of the brightest states. montana. i have to do is just show them that these folks -- look at this attorney general in alabama, if i can say, going after women who take illegal pill to end and unwanted pregnancy, he is an attorney general, go after bad people, sir. go after the guys and girls who do really bad things and let women have their right to privacy. this is full stop a lot against women. why doesn't he go after viagra and tell men if they take viagra they have to go to jail? it's honestly -- i honestly think we have seen it across this country this last election, women and the people who support women like your panel tonight, the majority, and we're gonna vote you out. and you can't do this.

government has no rights. if i had health care problem, i do want to call mitch mcconnell, thank you very much. i wanna call my doctor. you know? >> absolutely. representative kenyatta, rapidly switching gills here, give me your reaction to the chaos that is ongoing in the pennsylvania house right now. there's a lot to unpack there, i'm curious to get your thoughts on it. the only -- >> the only difference we're seeing between republicans and the republicans in d. c. and pennsylvania c-span. you just don't get to watch it on a live rolling broadcast. literally, just as, hero scott perry came, they started a freedom caucus in pennsylvania. they've made clear that they have an agenda that is chaos. they have --

six days later the same person who nominated him was asking him to resign because our speaker, mark rossi, wants to finally advance a constitutional menace of childhood sexual abuse to have their day in court. to face the people who did awful things to them. all four caucuses and the governor agreed that this will be the number one priority. we have to get this done by the end of the month. if it's gonna go to voters for voters to affirm this. but instead of doing this common sense thing, they have ground the house to a complete standstill unless we also agree to voter i. d.. unless we also agree to put the auditor general in charge of auditing all future elections. zephyr auditor general, he's not sure, ayman, if the last election was free and fair. he thinks his election was for

unfair but if he's not sure about joe biden donald trump. and they would put this profile encouraged in charge of auditing of future elections and they're holding hostage when justice for victims and year of this. but i want to say that this connects to what we were talking about on this entire segment. this is why you see voter restrictions that you see. this is why they can't let go of the voter denialism. because understand these are not winning issues. these are issues that they only advance if they can shut up as many voters as possible. i can tell, you and pennsylvania, you know it. we had historic victories up and down the ballot. voters are listening, they're paying attention. >> panel, stick around, we have a lot more to discuss. when we get back, we're discussing the most important issues of the week to republicans. gas stoves and m&ms. yes, you heard that correctly. brace yourselves for this one, folks.

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desperate the gop can get in these cultural wars. republicans have unpopular policies and so of course they prefer to distract from those policies by getting people upset about fake controversies. and you've heard them all before. democrats want to cancel dr. seuss. there's the so-called war on christmas. the weird pregnant joker comic frenzy this week. it's all in the time to paint democrats as more radical than the gop. so as house republicans push for this week with their unpopular agenda passing antiabortion laws, promoting tax cuts for the super wealthy, how did the right wing media respond by covering the true problems in this country. like woke m&ms. hawks began the week freaking out over m&ms releasing female focused candy packaging featuring the green brown and

purple m&ms. the intended pro woman message was deemed to woke and there there was of course the war on justice. the drama started when the member of the consumer comic safety commissions in an interview that the agency was considering -- from gas stoves. the right twisted to mean the biden administration was in the process of beating gas stoves and in effect painted the white house as a big brother type wanted to interfere in your kitchen. this full outrage who was pinned by jim jordan who treated, got. guns. guests. ronny jackson, the famed doctor tweeted, if the maniacs come for my stove, they can pry for my cold dead hands. of course, as with the eminem issue, fox does freak out the best. >> m&ms, the candy, back to pushing woke politics. >> it's blue, is it nonbinary, is a democratic? >> i think it's the kind of thing that china say, good, keep focusing on that. >> i'm glad some of these m&ms will have nuts to represent the transgender community. >> the white house is weighing a nationwide ban on gas stoves?

>> watch out, the government is coming for your gas stove. not only is biden coming for your paycheck, but he's also coming from your stove. >> big brother is coming for your kitchen. >> naturally, they decided gas powered stoves, racist and have to go. >> no one's gonna tell me i can't cook with gas. >> it's fine to get fentanyl to attics, but gassed of is appear to your wife? >> it works overtime. you find the villain real or in most cases for them imaginary and then you just took the fears over and over. make the base afraid that the world is changing and that that change is so bad and the change is the fault of none other than the democrats and the woke left, you take the focus off of your bad policies and make your opponents the true enemies. thanks to a bunch of lies and innuendo. after the break, my panel will join me to decide which fake controversy was the most outrageous this week. was it the m&ms are the guest of's?

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unhinged over at fox news. this makes no sense and it just leads me to ask one question. are you small mad, are you big mad, are you media mad? these people are really out of control. and i'm gonna use my gas stove to boil some conservative tears. give me a break. >> barbara, your turn. guesthouse or m&ms? what does it say that the right wing in this country? you hire the speaker of the house and representatives weighing in on gas stove's and blowing the situation completely out of proportion saying not have -- prying the guests out of their dead hands and equating it with god in their country. what have you. >> it's insane. it's diversion, as you pointed out.

it makes no sense. it's hard to pick. the m&m thing is so stupid, i don't even follow it. but i think the republican -- they get money from the mars company. they say they don't like m&ms. but on the gas stoves, this is going to save and help people. save lives because some of these stoves are quite dangerous. if you don't have the right ventilation. so but the government is telling us, which is really smart is, if you have a guest of, which i do, make sure that you then the gas to outside the house. if you can't have a good built invent, opened the window. and these guys are making it sound like they're gonna come and take away the stove. but i think it's one congressman jackson's upright out of my cold hands, be careful.

be careful. >> danielle, between the guests and m&ms and the fact that conservatives love to paint democrats as snowflakes, who is the snowflake here if you -- get upset by candy? >> the idiocy has no bounds. here it shocks, me i can't believe that tucker carlson has high ratings. it is just incredible to me. the man -- you see how fragile these people are. he did a phony document on masculinity. his masculinity is threatened by the fact that we have purple m&ms. what does that say about you? small, small man. i'm just saying. >> it's incredible when you think about how much they try to use this to anger the base and keep them constantly outraged about fake things when there's so many other pressing issues. can they actually govern or have debate policies? the fact that representative can yet, a to barbara's point, at the core of the guest of

issue, even if you want to engage in it seriously for a moment, you have an agency telling you that we think there could be harm coming out of the gas stove and we would like to consider protecting our children. that's at the core of what they are trying to alert the public to. what is the reaction by these republicans? don't infringe on my freedom to harm my child. >> to flicks senator boxer, you have to reach a high bar. i know there's a moment where she's happy to be off congress. but i would just, say the same people who want to force you to give birth, then they don't care if you harm the kid after

they're born. so this is really where we are. and to bring it back to pennsylvania quickly, i have a colleague who is doing the most tweeting about our speaker who you can go look them up, aaron bernstein, who forced his five your child too smart smoke a cigar on snapchat for all of us to see. so this just tells you how much they actually care about kids, whether or not they care about people's health and safety. they don't care. >> barbara, talk to me here about the tactic, not necessarily the tactic or the m&ms, but this idea that republicans and the right-wing echo chamber, the fox news is of the world, they knowingly spread these lies to energize their base or they find these issues to make them culture war issues. and for me, it seems -- it shows contempt for americans and it shows contempt for their base that they're so easily manipulated by these outrageous cultural issues. >> i couldn't agree with you more. it is contentious of them. here they have sitting in their's house right now a make believe congressman who said in the election, santos, he didn't win an election, some other character that he made up, a character whose family survived the holocaust and survived 9/11 and he's helped -- he's a leading voice in climate --

they have somebody in their chamber, ayman, who is a danger because we don't know who the heck got him there. and he's there for briefings, he's eligible for that. and [inaudible] i had those briefings. so they don't want you to look at that. and because they don't wanna give up that seat. and the fact is, any day of the week, congressman can vote to expel the sky. it's in the constitution. instead of looking over there at this situation, they look at m&ms and gas stoves. i mean, if it wasn't serious, it would be funny. but it's not funny to have this impostor sitting there and to divert from that by talking about purple m&ms. >> got helps us for what's in store next week in terms of the whole outrage. representative malcolm kenyatta,

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