promised wins out. at our best, we hear in heed the injunctions of the lord and the whispers of the angels. i don't need to tell you that we're not always that our best. we're fallible. we fail and fall. faith and history teaches us that however dark the night, joy commit in the morning. that troy comiso with a commitment of scripture. love the lord thy god. of all thy horror. it all by mind and all thy soul. and loved by neighbor as they self. easy to say.

easy to say. but very hard to do. in that commandment, in my view, lies the essence of the gospel. and the essence of the american promises. it's when we see each other's a neighbors and not enemies the progress and justice come. it's when we see each other as fellow human beings. as children under god that we band -- begin to walk the path of dr. king's beloved community. a path his dream inspired. and his legacy propel us forward to this day. here is what i learned in my life in my career along that path. as many of you have learned along your path. we're all imperfect beings. we don't know where and what

faith will deliver to us and when. we do, we can do our best. to seek a life of light and hope. and love. and yes, truth. truth. that's what i try to do every day. to build the future. we all want. or reminding ourselves that enough thing, nothing is guaranteed in our democracy. nothing. every generation is required to keep it. defended it. protect it. to be repair areas of the breach. and remember that the power to redeem the soul of america lies where it always has allied -- led. in the hands of we the people. we the people. [applause]

i was reminded of that truth on the south lawn of the white house. i believe you are there, both of you. both your senators. the south lawn of the white house. vice president kamala harris. and hearing these words, and i quote. it took just one generation from segregation to the supreme court of the united states, and of quote. those are the words of ketanji brown jackson. our supreme court justice. . [applause] took just one generation from segregation to's get in court of the united states. as i told folks at the time. she smarter than you are.

as dr. king said, give us the ballot. and we will place judges on the bench. who will do justly. and we are. that's the promise of america. we're changes hard but necessary. excuse. me progress is never easy. it's always possible. the things do get better. in our march toward a more perfect union. at this inflection point, we know there's a lot of work but let's continue on economic justice civil rights voting rights. protecting our democracy. and i'm remembering that our job is to redeem the soul of america.

[applause] look, i get accused of being an optimist. i call that the irish of it. we're never on top, always stepped on, we're optimistic. like doctor king was optimistic. folks, as i said, progress is never easy. but redeeming the soul of the country is absolutely essential. i doubt whether any of us would've fought even in doctor king's time but there were literally be institutional structure this country might collapse. like we're seeing in brazil. we've seen in other parts of the world. folks, all close with this.

with the blessing i see today in the oval office. and many of you have been there. been there in my office. you get to set it up the way you want. within reason. as i said in my desk. [laughter] as i sit at my desk, and look at the fireplace, just to the left is the best of dr. king. it's there and that spot on purpose. he was my inspiration as a kid. he knows where we should go. i ran for three reasons. i said i want to restore the soul of america. i want to rebuild this country from the bottom up in the middle out. and i wanted to unite it.

not far from him, if you look, about 40 50 degrees to the right. there is another statue. another bust. of rosa parks. people ask me. why? >> i say i put it in my words. i've had enough. i've had enough. folks i often think of the question the doctor king asked us all those years ago. i think it's important you will remember. i think it's important the nation remembers. he said where do we go from here. that's a quote. where do we go from here.

my message to the nation on this day is we go forward. we go together. when we choose democracy over autocracy, a community over chaos, when we choose believers in the dream to be doer. to be unafraid. always keeping the faith. every time i walk out of my irish catholic grandfather's home in pennsylvania, his name was ambrose finnegan. and he l joey, keep the faith. my grandmother said no joey, spread it, spread the faith. i'm serious. it's a catholic rosary i have on my wrist. when my son had on the day the, night he was dying. the point is, there is hope. there is always hope. we have to believe.

ladies and gentlemen, that was doctor king's path, in my view. a path of keeping the faith. it must be our path. folks, for god sake, this is the united states of america. united states -- there is nothing beyond our capacity. nothing beyond our capacity. if we set our mind to it. ladies and gentlemen, we're a land of dreamers in the land of doers. nothing's beyond our capacity. the gospel song that dr. king loved as i understand, he always told he did. we've come too far from where we started. nobody told me that the road would be easy. i don't believe he brought me this far to leave me. he did not bring me thus far to leave me. my fellow americans, i don't think the lord brought us thus far to leave us. i really don't. my words.

my fellow americans. god bless dr. martha king and his family. and based on his -- one of his favorite hymns. precious lord take my hand. through the storm, through the night, and lead me on to the late. may god bless you all. let's go find the light. we can do this. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> i welcome you to alex witt reports. getting a sunday. when many americans spend part of their day in worship, you've been listening to president biden honoring dr. martha kaine junior onward been his 94th birthday. just these moments ago, the president delivering a sermon at ebenezer baptist church where mlk once preached. he is now the first sitting president to do so during a sunday service. let's take a listen again to part of what he said.

we're doing a good part of that as we listen to some of this spiritual and soulful music. let's take a listen to that. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> many of us would enjoying the news a listen to this and we will perhaps play it underneath. we do have nbc's plane alexander, she is with the president. traveling there in atlanta. blaine, we will come to you. what was the presidents big message? his overarching message to this

crowd? >> i think it's just saying, alex, he sort of a saying that he is speaking on the pulpit of somebody who he considers one of his two political heroes. the other being bobby kennedy. noting that dr. mueller knew really is somebody that he admires. somebody he kind of patterns himself after in a great deal. it's notable he speaking in his church. not only on the day that dr. king would've turned 94 years old. if you can believe that. also marking a historic first. this makes him at the first sitting u.s. president to speak during a sunday service and ebenezer baptist church. that's something that was noted. he kind of shirt at the beginning that he was intimidated coming after what you heard right there is a very strong, very robust choir. he spoke in front of everybody but he's intimidated coming up out of them. and reality, alex, this is a friendly audience. he came here at the invitation of senator -- newly reelected georgia senator reverend warnock. who is the senior passenger here. he was greeted several times by

a standing ovation. the congress here this church. also remember georgia is friendly territory to for the president. this is the state that helped lead him to the white house two years ago. flipped blue and helped elect him to the white house two years ago. certainly fitting he is here any speaking and it's very clear that he wanted to tout some of his achievement so far but also made it clear that his speech there was still some ways to go. take a look. >> on us they of remembrance, as we gather here in this church to ebenezer. to commemorate what would have been dr. king's 94th birthday. we gather to contemplate his moral vision. and to commit ourselves to the his path to his path. the path that leads to the beloved community. to the sacred place that sacred our when justice rains down like waters of righteousness.

in the mighty stream. >> alex, during his speech, he called this an inflection point in the country. saying that there is still a great deal of work that needs to be done on civil and voting rights. when he deliver that message, you can't look at his presence here in georgia without thinking of course about what this means for him politically. we talk about georgia's role in the 2020 election but when you look ahead to 2024. he only won the state by fewer than 12,000 votes. many of the people that he speaking today are the very people that he needs to turn out for him for democrats should he be on the ballot in 2024. it certainly clear that he was delivering a message not only to those people but also talking about the role that georgia plays and delivering two democratic senators to washington as well. another thing i think is important point out is that georgia, specifically has made a very robust bid to be the host city for the dnc convention next year. to correspond with the president visit today, kind of group of leaders here in the city led by atlanta mayor henry dickens placed a full page ad

in the local newspaper, the hac, telling him to see -- cement his legacy and she's atlanta. certainly messaging being set up both sides of his visit today here. alex >> absolutely. it's a very comprehensive report to offer. let me just say the four words that i picked up that the president said. we've got to listen to these words. we have to be due worries of these words. there was being dignity, respect, liberty and justice. that whole concept. that really strong throw everything that he said. he realizes he hat -- this is a worrisome service but is also a group of civil rights activists and people who know all too well the fight that dr. martha came to neuro struggled for. persisted through his entire life. >> if i can make one comment about that, alex. i think what's interesting is when you kind of look at the timeline of his visit. it was almost exactly one year ago today that he was in atlanta not, too far from where i'm standing at the abc. pushing voting rights. what we now know was an unsuccessful push for the john

lewis voting rights act. he touched on that again today as well. john lewis was a member of this church. he was a long time that -- he did kind of come back. almost renew that push as well. saying that's important keep fighting for that as well. >> a point that you made, that he is the only sitting president to have delivered a sunday sermon ad of unease rebaptize church ever. it's somewhat struck me as a surprise. are you surprised by that as well? >> they're urban presidents, president carter has been here, former president barack obama has been here. church of the bush, bill clinton of all but about -- that pulpit. typically they come for the monday service. we see here in atlanta is monday on dr. king de. there is a huge service that usually brings president, sitting senators, all sorts of dignitaries, they usually come for that day. but the sunday before, this day is your right, we haven't seen a president, a sitting

president comment elaborate service -- sermon rather on any sunday. >> absolutely. plaintiffs and, are well done. thank you so much for that. let's go to the day's other developing stories as we will keep an eye on things happening inside of that wonderful church. a gop led push to escalate and equivocate the finding of around 20 government documents or president biden's possession to donald trump's fight to hold on to hundreds of government documents. here are the arguments from both sides today. >> at the end of the day, my biggest concern is in the classified documents to be honest with you. my concern is how there are such a discrepancy and how former president trump was treated by rating mar-a-lago, by giving security cameras, by taking pictures of documents on the floor. by calling from lonnie's closet. the >> president's lawyers, the moment they found out about the documents that they turned them over. that is a very different posture than what we saw what donald trump. where he was fighting for a

period of more than eight months to not turn over hundreds of missing documents. he defied a government subpoena. they ended up having to go to court to get a court issue subpoena to go in search mar-a-lago. -- the first big showdown starts now as the u.s. approaches the debt limit on thursday. the big question today is -- will republicans or democrats to prevent the country from going into default? >> in theory a majority members of congress could file a petition to force a bill to the vote and require 200 and -- trump democrats plus six more republicans. the question is are there enough reasonable republicans to flip -- to have the courage to send the extremists and support raising the debt limit? >> i think it is a real threat though, both sides have to take serious. on our side, we have to realize that we control the house for the four seat majority, the

senate is run by the democrats for the one seat majority, and the president from the democrat party. so we can get everything we want either. >> a new poll shows that 61% of voters already believe that republicans of president biden are less likely to get anything done together over the next two years, with 58% saying that it is unlikely that democrats and republicans won't agree to get anything done in the new congress. we have a panel of reporters ready to go over today's new developments. today we're gonna start with you nbc's -- that is where the president landed just a few hours ago, ali, welcome, how are lawmakers reacting to the news that additional documents were found in president biden's home >> yeah, alex, well unsurprisingly there was a flood of reaction from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle on the sunday shows today. really reacting to this news we got over a little over 24 hours ago now, got to the presidents personal lawyers in these

statements from the white house counsel and the presidents personal lawyer saying that there were more classified materials found at president biden's wilmington home. just days ago in addition to three other discoveries, earlier this week. that is the backdrop that president biden's trip to atlanta, going to ebenezer baptist church to honor dr. martin luther king's legacy, comes against. it is really no secret that the focus, at least of the political world right now, is the mishandling of these classified documents and the looming question of why the biden administration didn't come out sooner. as soon as they found out about the discoveries of these classified materials, and disclosed them and acknowledge them to the american public. you know, we have seen democrats call attention to the contrast between president biden's case, his predecessor, former president trump special counsel probe. and then, on the other side of the aisle, you have republicans calling president biden a hammock rep. saying that they should be more

congressional probes into this in addition to that special counsel probe, but both sides of the aisle, both agreeing that attorney general garland was right in making that decision to appoint a special car sole hurt to look into this. i want you to take a listen from both of the parties today but. >> what is the proper thing for a former president to do if he finds that there are government documents or classified documents that are in his possession? and my understanding is that they did the right thing by immediately alerting the archives and turning them over. >> the administration hasn't been transparent about what has been going on with president biden's possession of classified documents, it seems political here. it seems hypocritical, it seems like a double standard. >> it looks as far as we can tell, that it was inadvertent that these documents were in these locations. when they were discovered, they were immediately provided to the archives, or to the justice department. there was no effort to hold on

to, them no effort to conceal them, no effort to obstruct the justice departments investigation. >> and, alex, you can be sure that president biden will be continued to be asked about this as he comes back to wilmington with a team of white house reporters have been trying to ask him about this today. >> indeed, thank you very much allie raffa, there in wilmington. let's bring in msnbc political contributor and political reporter, we have alexei mackinnon, joining us as well as -- and legal affairs columnist for politico. welcome to you both, i don't see alexei, there you are. so let's get into the biden administration and how it has been handling the discovery of these documents, because there certainly has been some criticism. let's take a listen to what former white house press secretary and now msnbc host, jen psaki, take on it. >> and the lawyers are probably saying to them in a moment like this, if you make assertions

like that, and even anything is wrong, that could be a problem. what they've clearly decided to do is to not say much, right? they have said a minimal amount, because they are trying to not anger the justice department. but those options are crappy. neither of them are great, and neither of them make for an easy and smooth communication strategy. >> so, alexei, is the bidens counts decision to not say much, is that politically or legally motivated. >> look, alex, we have seen both sides of the aisle are taking this very seriously. and they said that a special counsel is warranted, but the big thing we are hearing from a lot of people is that, while the biden administration maintains that they have been transparent, folks and voters i've heard from and others say that they want even more transparency. they consider this to be a serious deal, and we are watching the political and legal implications kind of come out as we are talking. and over the last several days,

yesterday a former white house advisor, david gergen, who of course served four different presidents from both parties, said that he thought the biden ministration was making a big mistake politically. he said that, legally, he's not sure how it might shake, out but politically he was saying in an interview with cnn, but this looks bad for the white house. they need to be saying more to the public, and that they need to have better answers. then they have been giving. so, let's go to ornato, as a lawyer, is being tightlipped the presidents only option right now? if not just being prudent, are there legal restrictions? >> no, it is not their only option. first of all, i think that as jen psaki mentioned a moment ago, that is a true choice that they are, making they are considering their political options but i think they could have their lawyers make a statement that is more fulsome than what they have already made, and i think one thing that we haven't seen here, i think the messaging has been somewhat confused. beenthere has been messaging fra special counsel within the white house counsel's office,

we really haven't heard from an external council that i'm aware of, somebody who is retained personally by president biden, and from the communications team that is associated with that person. what would make sense to me is something more like -- the clinton administration, were you at clinton's private counsel making statements. the white house remaining silent, and being as forthcoming as they can be without obviously compromising anything regarding the justice department. >> renato, thanks but hold on a second, this time yesterday we were digesting statements from the white house cancel. and when you say they could be doing more, you know they went through exactly how this latest batch was discovered, wednesday, at his home, they saw them and they immediately stopped. they said hands off, because the attorney looking for documents or scouring things did not have top security clearance. he waited, came back with fbi, and doj officials, handed

everything they did find over to them immediately. that is pretty thorough, they did communicate that. so what more do you think, at this point, they could be doing? >> one thing i will point out, alex, is that yesterday there was confusion about that statement. there was not clear -- there was discussion among reporters and other people ask me questions about whether or not there was multiple documents or multiple pages of a document. >> i asked that question, you're right. but we were told, i renato, that there was at least one document that had two pages to it. i there was one document that had been pound, and there were sides up to ten pages found. and i ask, does that mean five separate documents, one document with five pages to it, we don't know. but, in this situation, you have to be careful about identifying anything. right? you don't want to be giving away anything about the content of top secret items.

so was that prudent? was that wise, to not be too specific? despite all the questions you are asked and what i was conjuring up as well. >> i certainly don't want to give up anything regarding the contents of the documents, but i think it was a misstep to have the confused, in precise statements. i do this for a living, alex, companies hire me at times when there is an investigation, a government investigation, and certainly you are careful about what you say, but you make your statements precise, you make them not confusing. you don't make them misleading in any way, and, frankly, i think you get on top of the issue. and i think why the searches were occurring at a later date and why people with clearance were even involved in the searches. i just think a lot of questions about how this is being handled. >> and you are perfectly legit, all of those questions are as, well i just want to remind everybody that what we have been seeing is president biden, he is still inside the ebenezer baptist church and he is talking with congregates and leaders. and it looks like they are

singing something, no doubt, beautiful. but i still want to ask you this, alexei, instead of turning to the music there. the doj is now investigating both biden and trump's handling of classified documents, right? but there are significant differences. for one, the number of documents. there was a small number found at president biden's office and home, compare that to more than 300 found in trump's possession, also, how they were turned over to the doj. president biden's team handed them over willingly, upon discovery, it is not like the national archives said, hey we're missing something, can you check this out? at least one knowledge at this point. trump's documents, contradict really, they were seized by the fbi after search warrants were executed, alexei. are voters seeing these differences? i >> just last week, i had a chance to hear from street voters in florida as part of our monthly focus groups with folks who voted for donald trump in 2016 and then joe biden in 2020, and these voters

know that it was a small vote, but they considered biden's handling of classified documents to be a serious matter, though they did say that what happened with former president trump seemed to them, to be more serious, but the really interesting thing to me, alex, is that this situation that is unfolding with president biden and these classified documents has now become the basis for some of these voters desire to see house republicans investigate the fbi and the doj for any signs of weaponization by the biden administration, they said, in these focus groups, but the way the fbi handled trump situation at mar-a-lago seemed different than what they are doing with president biden. and, of course, it's as we know because the circumstances are different, but voters want to see an investigation because they want to see any sort of corruption or malpractice stamped out and rooted out of these institutions and these agencies. >> so that is politically speaking, legally speaking, i

renato, is there -- how they were turned, over or even if joe biden was vice president when he obtained those documents versus trump, who was the outgoing president, while telling his lies that he won the election? >> that is a great question, alex, and i think the important distinction is how the two men were involved with handling those documents. so, for example, donald trump, there were repeated requests, letters, grand jury subpoena, there was actually a personal visit by the justice department, counterintelligence head to mar-a-lago begging ascension for these documents to be returned. trump thumbed his nose at those folks, it is clear he will fully retain those documents. legally, that is very important. based on what we know, now really what appears for former president biden is that he had inadvertently handled these documents, he inadvertently kept them, and that seems to be much more like the hillary clinton situation, where there was a review being conducted to make sure that there was nothing more to it.

but, really, very unlikely that it will come with legal -- >> alexei, most curiously when you are talking about those swing voters that we spoke with in florida and you talk about concerns about the weaponization, if you will, of the fbi the department of justice, is this anything you heard before donald trump began making those claims? making those claims? >> you've been reported for quite some time, have you heard anything like that before donald trump started that narrative? >> you know, the interesting thing is that there was a mix, this was a mix of registered democrats and republicans. but some folks we asked, what you have said this five years ago? would you want an investigation into the fbi and doj five years ago, or has something happened in the last year or two years that is now making you want to see the sort of investigation? a handful of folks said the former, but a number of people, to your point, said the latter. and former president trump's residencies changes americans

perceptions of how they work, and it goes back to transparency. voters want more information so that they have a clear idea of what is going on. but certainly the biden ministration is doing what they can to prevent the doj from becoming too politicized, that seems a little difficult, to your point, again, after president trump in the way that he has talked about these two agencies. >> okay, great conversation you guys, thank you for sticking around through the breaking news of the president at the ebenezer baptist church. alexei, and renato, thank you so much. let's go from there now to capitol hill. and also new today, some harsh words for freshman congressman george santos from his from his republican colleagues after his lies for his back run is boiling over. nbc's julia circuit is joining us, we thank you for the weight as well. so, are george santos's colleagues, are there ready to hold him accountable for making up the majority of his personal story? >> look, at least eight of his republican colleagues in the house have called on him to resign, and i do think that is

notable. six of those are actually in his freshman republican class from new york, calling explicitly on him to resign. they're of course others that have suggested that he consider it, but, look, fabricating his resume from his faith to his education background and where he worked, everything in between, might be something that voters could answer two and two years. as we heard santos say over and over again, however, how he paid for his campaign, how he financed, it might just be the straw that breaks the camels back here. there is a claim opened up by the nonpartisan campaign legal center to the fcc, the federal elections commission, just this week, alleging multiple counts of campaign finance violations. they even said, quote, unknown individuals or corporations may have a legally funneled money to santos campaign. these investigations are serious, and they are ones that if they play out, santos could therefore lose his seat in congress that way. i want you to take a listen to

what to republicans have to say this morning about this. >> watch. >> if it was me, i would resign. i wouldn't be able to face my voters after having gone through that. but this is between him and his constituents, largely. >> he is a bad guy. this is something that, it is really bad. he is not the first politician, unfortunately to make it to congress to lie. i haven't even introduced myself to him because it is pretty despicable, the lies that he told. but, at the end of the day, it is not up to me or any other member of congress. to determine whether he can be kicked out for lying. now, if he broke campaign finance laws, then he will be removed. >> but you know who hasn't made any large statements like that, any member of republican leadership in the house. and that is because of the tight margins they have, just four seats, there are four votes excuse me that they can spare lose any moment, and george santos actually flipped a plus eight biden district. so this is all politics here when it comes to congress, but those outside investigations could really cause some damage for him.

>> absolutely stunning, actually that we continue talking about this. julie tsirkin, thank you for that. join me now, california congressman ro khanna, a democratic member of the house armed services, agriculture, and oversight committees. welcome, my friend. let's get into this because it seems like it certainly seems like the republicans are saying it is up to the constituents. i'm curious what you make of that argument, because the voters voted, for somebody different. right? given what they were told. >> look, this is not resume exaggeration, which many people have done, unfortunately. this is making up your whole life story. lying about your faith, lying about whether you went to college, lying about where you worked, and it is a total distraction from the republican party. this is what they are getting asked about. so it is in their own interest to call for his eighth resignation, and frankly is in congress's interest that someone like him resigns, so that people don't think everyone in congress doesn't have ethical standards. >> yeah, well let's turn from

there to the numerous house republican investigations into president biden. and they include a probe into biden's family businesses. inclu>> that is led by the ovet committee that you sit. on how you win your democratic colleagues approach these investigations? >> well, the first point is that the american people care about the price of acts, they care about jobs, they care about manufacturing, they care about not having a government shutdown. so the investigations i think are distracting from the core agenda. now, we have an oversight function, and if they want to have fair investigations, that is fine. but don't bring private citizens into it, the president you want have an oversight, the white house would have oversight, fine. but his family members who had nothing to do with the president's business, that i don't think is the business of congress. >> and, to your point, is it possible that these republican-led investigations might ultimately help democrats? because americans will they conclude that the republicans are more interested investigating than legislating?

>> yes, i mean, if they end up making the principal 2023 year about investigation, i think that will backfire in a big way. what americans want is that we aren't defaulting on our debt, make sure we keep government, opens make sure to do something about increasing wages, do something on taxes and to do something on inflation. i mean, did you see any republicans run ads saying we are going to investigate the president? no one ran on, that they ran on issues. they ran on bread and butter issues. and i think voters will feel betrayed if they turn around and simply spent all their time on investigation. >> yes, i want to turn to this new revelation. it is a big one. it is from the oil industry, this new study in the journal of science that says that exxonmobil scientists were remarkably accurate in predicting global warming since the 1970s. and that was the same time that the oil giant told the public

they doubted global warming was real. you've been looking into the fossil fuel industry for a long time, in the effort but is this study, and is there any effort that should or could take effect? now >> i appreciate your covering, it and it didn't come as a surprise to me, because for two years, our committee and the big oil executives in front of us have millions of documents. and we discovered two simple facts. one, the oil companies in the 1970s knew about climate change more than anyone. they had the best signs, and they made a deliberate effort to lie to the american public, and that made it so much harder for us to transition. we could've started the transition in the 1970s, to, the oil companies unfortunately continue to mislead their talking about meeting paris accords, being clean companies, but they are not investing the money in clean technology. and they are continuing to expand their carbon footprint

and fossil fuel infrastructure, just like big tobacco, they need to be held accountable. >> to which i, say keep, on keeping on on that, and before i let you go though, you might know this one is coming. i'm going to show you a headline, and you need to tell me what is true and what is not. the article in politico says, roxana says he's looking at the senate. his allies are talking about the white house. and the article reads, those close to conor say he's keeping his options open ahead of a potential presidential run in 2028 or behind -- or beyond, but others in his orbit are talking about an even more compressed timeline. running in 2024 of president joe biden who decided not to. so, my friend, care to comment on your senate or white house aspirations? >> well they are very happy in the house, those that obviously get a lot of clicks, but i'm going to be a strong supporter of president biden's reelection. if he doesn't run i would support someone like bernie sanders, who i support, and i

am really excited with how -- i that the action actually is in the house of representatives right now. and i love serving here, and i'm looking forward to serving here for a few more terms, as long as the district will have me. >> you know i'm going to ask one more question, and that is, california, our mutual state. i am a california girl. we have already going for diane feinstein senate seat despite the fact that she has yet to declare that she is not running again, you have represented barbara lee, you have representative katie porter, certainly those vast speculation that representative adam schiff would throw his hat in the ring, and again, we just read this headline on you. not speaking about your potential move there, any thoughts on these two women that have officially declared? >> look, it is going to be a very talented field, i am close to representative barbara lee because she is a neighboring district, i do think that there is something to having an african american woman in the united states senate.

that's what i've said that what she does will weigh on my eventual decision in the race, and she has been an icon on standing up against the war in afghanistan. but, i have respect for all three of the candidates, who are being speculated about. and i will tell you something, california has a bigger population than 21 states in this country, it is a shame that we have so much great talent in the state and we can only get one of them in the senate. >> that is a good point, but i've got respect for you in the way you answer those questions. good job. you are good at this. >> thank you. >> it is fun, thank you for the chat. appreciate it. so, yikes, everyone. what you should know about a really close call in new york's kennedy airport. that is coming up. unlimited for just $25 a line,n guaranteed for 3 years. (einstein) brilliant! (vo) only on verizon.

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rain, wind, and snow pummeled the state this weekend. the three weeks of historic weather, causing at least 22 deaths, statewide, has got nbc's scott cohen he is in the very hard hit region of santa cruz county, california. so, scott, let's talk about the very latest on this storms. and weather forecasters are saying when this is going to end. >> well, alex, the last thing we need in california, as you know, is more rain. but there is, as we look at the radar, another system coming in that is expected to hit later today and tonight. the good news is that forecasters think the pattern is now changing, but that really just points to the enormous amount of work ahead. so we are in felton, which sits at the foot of the santa cruz mountains, the san lorenzo river is behind me that runs right through it. and this river tends to rise and fall really really fast. so what i am standing was underwater just yesterday, and the neighborhood adjacent to this is known as felton grove,

and because of the quick rise and fall of the river, that neighborhood has now flooded three times since christmas. and so they are once again and cleaning up. and residents are saying this is getting old. >> the cleanup was awful, but we cleaned it up and the next thing you know, fast forward like six days, and the flooding again. so we are in shock because, even though we prepped for, it we can prep for it to get as high as it had. and so that was even more mess, more destruction. >> you go through this a motion ill rollercoaster, it's going to be okay, it's not okay. but, frankly, with my troubles in life there is mud on the floor and some lost gear. i consider myself blessed and lucky. a lot of people in this world are going through things up much tougher than this, and

they don't even live by a river. i >> lot of people in the state are going through a lot worse. as we said earlier, 22 dead, and still millions under flood watches and many people, including around here, remain without power. again, alex, the hope is now that the worst of this might be over, but like i said a, lot of work ahead. >> it is just heartbreaking, scott, thank you so much. coming up next, the gop didn't get the memo on one key issue, and we play on a scale of 1 to 10 with the panel about a very important issue. coming up next. or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. stand up to your symptoms with rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that tackles pain, stiffness, swelling. for some, rinvoq significantly reduces ra and psa fatigue. it can stop further irreversible joint damage. and rinvoq can leave skin clear or almost clear in psa.

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but how many agents to the apply to that and apply to president trump as well? this is just hypocrisy. >> we just want equal treatment here with respect to how both former president trump and current president biden are

being treated with the document issue. >> but i think it is important to point out that the biden approach was a very different, there was a very sharp contrast to donald trump's handling of the situation. >> they had some new nature about the wrangling of the documents after the doj appointed special counsel to investigate what are now three batches of documents with classified markings found in an office and residents of president biden. joining me now is valencia johnson, political strategist and chief impact officer of ten 63 west broad, susan del percio, republican strategist and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida. both our nbc political analysts. i welcome you all, susan, a lot of argument from republicans today. they are trying to compare president biden and former president trump's cases. but the facts in these cases, they are very different. are americans taking note of these -- how do you think this is resonating politically?

>> first i'd like to highlight, they appear to be very different because we know that donald trump went through lawsuit after lawsuit, and that the archives asked for the records back, and there was a big paper trail. but, right now, alex, all we know about biden, from the doj is that there is currently an investigation. everything else is what biden's lawyers have said. which, i have no reason not to believe, but i really think that we have to let these investigations play out. for example, i don't know if the department of archives sent out a letter to all former presidents i and the timeline from biden has been a problem. again, i believe that this is a small problem legally for the current president, where it's a big problem for the former president. but i think, politically, it is a bigger it is probably an eight as a political problem for biden. >> and i'm going to get to a number scale, but i do want to, say you make points there,

susan, but what you are saying that came out of the mouths and the writings of the statements of the attorneys. you're not dealing with perjury, you're just dealing with necessarily incomplete, because these guys are attorneys. >> i'm just saying the doj, i'm just saying there is not a record. what we know about trump is based on an actual record. that is of lawsuits and everything else. when we say that it was turned over right away, that is what the attorneys have said. doj has not said that. and that is all i'm saying is that we are only getting the information from biden's attorneys. not to think it's not true, but that we shouldn't jump ahead of ourselves. >> gotcha. so, david, you have house republicans. they've certainly seized on this -- already launching a congressional investigation into it. how does it look that these same republicans who defended trump through his mishandling of classified documents are now raising their voices when it involves president biden, and when investigators dug into all

of the details, david, are republicans going to wish that they hadn't shouted so quite loudly about it? >> look, hypocrisy is the tool of the trade for house republicans. i don't think they are going to be moved at all by conviction that they also need to look into former president donald trump. susan's right, we don't know what we don't know, but as the facts sit here today, what we know about joe biden is that he handled this as a former president, or any government official should when you come across government documents. what we know about donald trump is that he handled it with criminal intent. and so, in some ways, if we focus just on the doj investigation, i think the biden administration, at this, point should welcome. it because i think that it will ultimately exonerate his behavior as, according to protocol, and it will demonstrate that donald trump did, in fact, engage in criminal intent. and that contrast will be something that then house republicans simply cannot get around. >> so, with these multiple headlines speculating what the

documents investigation means for president biden's 20, 24 prospects. you have the ap saying that biden's political future is clouded by classified document probes, and then reuters reads that biden documents bungalows political black eye before 2024 launch. in that regard, what do you think the impact of this is? >> well, i think it is very early to be honest. it might have some implications on whether or not president biden, or when president biden to announce his reelection, that we already know he plans to be running again. the reality is that there is going to be so much that happens between now and the times that voters go to the ballot box in 2024, and like it was said, the republicans are out here actually showing their hypocrisy on handling of president biden and his cooperation, his lawyers cooperation, but with the department of justice. his administration, not trying to interfere with the doj, and donald trump, which is a complete opposite.

there is clear criminal intent. so i think voters are going to see this the same way they are going to see all of these other political science coming in the investigations, from house republicans, coupling them together and giving them hypocrisy. and i do think that if president biden's team plays his card very well and continues with this cooperation, and being upfront with the information, that voters will understand the difference and that in 2024, while it won't be a walk in the park, we will still be able to be victorious. >> so real quick to all of you, scale of 1 to 10 as i promised, susan, a lot of damage is a ten and one being no damage. how does this dock you drama play out, susan you gave it an eight, without just where it is right now, or do you think long term, eight? >> i think it hurts the president politically at an eight, and i think probably, for right, now only because the republicans will represent, and, more importantly, it takes the issue off the word from the biden side. >> gotcha.

david, your number? >> i would give it a six, but i would say trump might suffer a nine or a ten when all of this is said and done. >> alencia, you? >> dave it took my number, i give it a six as well, but if i'm being honest there is going to be so much more coming from this house gop and president donald trump between now in 2024. >> i want to quickly shift gears to the house of representatives, as you know it wrapped up its first weekend of republican control, the new majority voted to scrap irs funding, establish new weaponization committees, on the federal government and china also pass to abortion related measures, i am curious, susan, why are republicans going after abortion? have they learned nothing from the midterms. >> they have learned nothing from the midterms. it is that simple. i mean, it is ridiculous, it is absurd, it was a statement vote. it was something maybe to take care of the conservative side, but it is absolutely absurd. and now they are all on the record for 2024. >> david, message, what is it

to house republicans or rather republicans are sending to americans in this first week? is it painting a picture that everything they are doing has nothing to do with getting legislation done for the people, it is just more of political revenge? how is that going to play out? >> yeah, very importantly house republicans are going to get nothing done over the next two years because they have chuck schumer and joe biden, and their agenda will go nowhere. they are going to do three things, they're going to pass messaging bills, that's what you saw with the irs and antiabortion legislation. and they are going to investigate a lot, and then they are going to have to keep the government open. and this is where the speakership of kevin mccarthy kind of hangs in the balance, because they will have to raise the debt limit, and they will have to pass an annual budget in order to keep the government open, and the only way to do that is with democrats. and, ultimately, governing is a bridge too far for the insane caucus on the right in today's gop. >> let's see a canoe, give me about ten seconds, can you see that trump's presidency in one,

sense how much of an opportunity to democrats have to use that opportunity to their advantage? >> i, mean literally, we can talk about the hypocrisy and that they have literally caused the congress to get nothing done. let's talk about this weaponization committee, we'll talk about on the weekend celebrating dr. mlk, and granted, these republicans don't seem to mind when the fbi's over surveilling people of color. these are the same republicans who are hypocritical when health centers and abortion health care centers are being bombed and abortion care providers are being targeted and killed by antiabortion crusaders, and yet they want to pass a abortion regulation just this week. they are going to see that paparazzi and democrats are gonna be able to use that for the next few years. >> operative word of this discussion, hockey, alencia, david, and susan. thank you so much so, now today's other top stories, president biden today approved an emergency declaration for alabama after deadly tornadoes destroyed homes and locked out power, to tens of thousands this week. at least nine people were killed, biden's action makes

federal available to supplement local recovery efforts. the faa's investigation is invested in a close call at new york jfk airport, they nearly collided when one plane crossed onto the runway, just as the other was about to take off, delta pilots slammed on the brakes, just in time stopping about 1000 feet from the american airlines plane. fortunately, no one was hurt. and, damar hamlin visited his buffalo bills teammates for the first time since being discharged from the hospital, the reunion comes 12 days after hamlin went into cardiac arrest during that game in cincinnati. the bills play the miami dolphins today. the gop's war on wokeness, what does that even mean? and if anyone can figure out what it means, is it really one of america wants? and here is a live look at the white house. there is a swimming pool in there somewhere, and we learn how it became a concern for an important figure in the trump administration, especially since it was a distraction from usual, critical, duties. we are going to look at the

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