every time. i could have been a victim. i was an intended victim. that is why he called me. that is a hard thing to think about. >> and they told us that the trauma lives on. >> it is comforting to know that he is in there and that he can't hurt anyone else. >> they are sorority sisters of a sort who aren't willing to live their lives at silent victims came together to get tony russo off of the street for good. >> we did our job and got him convicted. >> they did, this sister hood for the sake of a woman whose fate might be theirs. friends came together to remember how they miss her, even after all of these years. >> she was a constant friend. she was in my life every day. all of a sudden she was gone out of my life. in an instant. like blowing a candle out. >> you see the smile in all of the photographs. always smiling? >> always. always. >> she had a magic smile. it was infectious. she was smiling, everybody else had to. they had to.

♪♪ this sunday, classified controversy. attorney general merrick garland appoints a special counsel to investigate president biden's handling of classified documents. >> extraordinary circumstances here require the appointment of a special counsel for this matter. >> just months after a special counsel was appointed to investigate donald trump, the biden administration revealed classified documents were discovered in the president's private office, and even in his private garage. >> my corvette is in a locked garage. it's not like it's sitting on the street. they're both facing criminal investigations. i'll talk to rod rosenstein, the former trump attorney general. plus house with that reset. >> i think congress has to investigate this. after a rocky week, house republicans unite around biden's trouble, and launch their very first investigation on the biden

documents, just as the white house struggles to answer new questions about the timeline of disclosure. >> they suppressed the information so the american people don't have access as we're getting ready to decide who will be in office in the midterm election. >> i'll speak with ron johnson and debbie stabenow. >> and capital attack. protesters storm congress in brazil. >> it is evidence that what happens in the united states has repercussions around the world. >> with misinformation spread through some of trump support respect to blame for creating this new threat? joining me are hallie jackson, the reverend al sharpton. , and marc short, former chief of staff to former vice president mike pence. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest-running

show in television history, this is "meet the press." good sunday morning. we even joke a week is a lifetime in politics. well, we just lived one of those weeks, where we just had a lifetime. we're two weeks into 2023. it's already clear this year will be defined by a brutal and confrontational political climate, probably a lot of gridlock. what we don't know is how president biden and house republicans will look like at the end of the year. now president biden finds himself on the defense, and congressional reps who seemed likely to try to overreach, as well as their chaos in finding a speaker have now been delivered a political gift. the classified documents discovered at biden's office in november only became public monday because of mainstream

news reports. there's been a cascade of revelations ever since. thursday the white house acknowledged that more classified documents had been found in a garage at biden's home in walken ton, as well as in an adjacent room, and the public comments produced more questions than answers. >> reporter: -- materials next to your corvette, what were you thinking? >> we'll have a chance to speak on all of this, god willing, soon -- by the way, my corvette is in a locked garage. >> reporter: but it was still in the a locked garage. >> yes, as well as my corvette. as i said earlier this week, people know i take classified documents, classified materials seriously. then on saturday, president biden's personal attorney release add revised timeline involving all these events. it begins on november 2nd, that's when the president's attorneys discovered some

documents. they informed the national archives. november 4th, the national archives inspector general informs the justice department. december 20th, the president's attorneys identified what they called a small number of documents with classified markings in biden's wilmington garage. this past wednesday, the attorneys located yet another classified document inside a room adjacent to that garage. on thursday, still more classified more material was found in the same room, and delivered to the justice department. now, the white house has reported that the five new classified pages were found on saturday. it's worth noting that it was in the middle of all of this, on november 18th, that attorney general merrick garland appointed a special counsel to investigate donald trump. the facts surrounding the biden

and trump special counsels are significantly different legally. the special counsel investigating donald trump, is also investigating his role in the riot. for trump specifically, there's perhaps a legal gift as well, by threatening to muddy the waters concerned about his mishandling of classified documents. statements like this one from biden that would criticize trump bag in september do not help biden's cause. >> how that can possibly happen, how anyone could be that irresponsible, and i thought, what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods? by that, i mean names of people helped, et cetera. it's just totally irresponsible. >> it's worth noting there's one giant difference. president trump actively defied a subpoena and he lawyer lied on

a federal form regarding the return of those classified documents. biden was asking to be held to a higher standard, that to the executive branch. these twin special counsel investigations also remind us how intertwined biden and trump you are. biden's viability as a candidate in 2024 may depend heavily on trump. biden's his age, family baggage were all minimized in 2020 because of the comparison to donald trump and his plots. and now it means the most single influential person in the 2024 campaign may be merrick garland. >> based on recent developments, including the former president's announcement he's a candidate for president in the next election, and the sitting president's stated intention to be a candidate as well, i have

concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel. i strongly believe that the normal processes of this department can handle all investigations with integrity. under the regulations, extraordinary circumstances here require the appointment of a special counsel for this matter. joining me now is the former deputy attorney general under president trump, rod rosenstein, overseeing the special counsel investigation into the russian election interference. welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you. glad to be here, chuck. >> in december, after the appointment of the trump special counsel, when asked whether you would have done it, you want you probably wouldn't have. how about this biden special counsel? >> i think, chuck, having made the appointment in the trump case, merrick garland put himself in a position he really had no choice, unless the

preliminary inquiry were to establish no crime had been committed. according to what we have heard, he could not make that decision. >> do you believe appointing a special counsel the trump special counsel, and strengthens the able to come to different conclusions. >> you have to differentiate the political consequences and the practical consequences. they're conducting independent investigations. they're going to go evaluate the facts of the law and make a recommendations based on what they find. i don't expect the existence of two special counsels will influence the way they go about their jobs. >> to the public, it appears -- and i want to use it, there are two car wrecks, one clearly is ant accident, one appears to be intentional. >> i think, chuck, we should wait until we know the facts form the key fact with regard to the biden documents, of course, is what did the president know

about the documents? was he aware they had been moved? did he, in any case, in the past five years, has he handled those documents? i think given that, we can't speculate. >> tell me your confidence level in jack smith and robert hur. >> they understand that their goal is to focus to the facts of the law and apply department policy. both of these men are not going to be influenced by political pressure. >> you feel they're both -- you said something intriguing to me, every special counsel starts with certain credentials. >> you pick people with sterling reputations, who are known for being nonpartisan, bur you're in a political arena, where inevitably you'll be attacked. >> there's two sort of unique defenses in each case that curious -- donald trump made the case that he could declassify anything. president biden didn't do that. >> that's one of the questions that the special counsel will have to look into, and in

addition, you know, the legal status of the vice president, whether or not he has authority to make any declassification questions. the key question is was president biden aware of those documents? >> would he have to sit for an interview? >> that would be a logical step. >> how a sitting president -- let's say something is found. what would happen? >> chuck, i think what should happen in the special counsel investigation is that the special counsel should evaluate the facts and the law, look at the department of justice policies, and make a recommendations to the attorney general whether or not the prosecution is warranted, and then it's up to the doj on whether to apply the policy.

>> if you had been in a similar situation, december 4th, the national archives that president biden has turned over some classified documents. is it too close to the election to tell people? is it too soon? is that -- are there questions that should be raised about the timing? >> it's not the justice department's job to make announcements. i would not anticipate the justice department to make a public announcement about there. >> you wouldn't have done that in the similar situation? >> in the justice department i would not have publicized it, no.

>> i'm curious, there's a lot of new committees on the hill that wants to investigate some justice department's practices. you essentially said, no, you know, when you were there and others, you didn't turn stuff over to congress. do you expect merrick garland to do that? >> i think the bright line is not to turn over anything in any way that will interfere with the investigation. that's a decision the department needs to make. there are legitimate congressional oversight requirement that the department can accommodate, but there's a bright line that comes to anything that might interfere. the fact that they have already sent letters demanding certain things, in your mind, there's nothing justice can do. >> i wouldn't say that. there are, as i said, legitimate oversight issues that can be resolved. fox, one bright line would be investigating the prosecutor while a case is ongoing. i think that's a case where the department needs to draw a line. let's go back in tine. in hindsight, appointing a

special counsel, is this a slippery slope that many previous attorneys general have already feared, that once you appoint one, you essential can't stop appointing them? once you claim a rationale of a perception of unfairness -- >> that was true until the statutory obligation to appoint an independent counsel. it's not true under the special counsel guidelines. it's always left to the discretion of the attorney general. so i think when you have a similar case, as you do with the trump and biden documents, but i don't know if you need to apply that universally. >> i ask that, because a decision was made last year not to appoint a special in the hunter biden situation, now he's appointed one for the classified document of president biden. is he going to be forced to do the same thing with hunter biden? >> i think you can distinguish

something from hunter biden from president biden. if that case implicated the president -- as long as it's just hunter biden, i don't think that decision needs to be reached. you worked pretty closely with christopher wray? >> i think he's doing a superb job under challenging circumstances. this criticism of the fbi has been ongoing for some time. if you work at the day-to-day basis, i think the american people should have confidence, and i think christopher wray is the right person. >> do we have to figure out another way to politically appoint members of the justice department? >> i don't think there's any

reason to mess with the appointment process, chuck. the majority of employees of the department are career employees. the leadership is subject to political appointment. i think that's an appropriate way to manage the department. >> rod rosenstein, we appreciate you coming on and lending your perspective. >> thank you. joining me is republican senator ron johnson, top republican on the subcommittee on investigations. senator johnson, welcome back to "meet the press." >> hello, chuck. it's been a while. >> it has. do you approve of merrick garland's decision to appoint a special counsel to look into the joe biden's confidential documents. >> i'm not a real fan of special counsels. i did join 32 of my colleagues

in calling for one for hunter biden, because we had a whistle-blower who said attorney weiss doesn't have the resources necessary to investigate. the way we have investigations of wrongdoing -- i will call the that -- in the political realm, we do it complete reply backwards. i think congress should have access to all the information, do their oversight. i never held public hearings. we just did an investigation and issued a report. if there's issue of wrongdoing, then we refer it to the justice department. what happens nowadays, the investigation begins, congress never gets access to the information. as a result the american public never understands the truth of these situations. so, again, we just do these investigations in the political realm with wrongdoing completely

backwards. >> so, do you think, though -- congress has an oversight role. shouldn't congress do their oversight role after an investigation is over? if doing it during the investigation, doesn't that end up either on purpose or inadvertently interfere in the investigation? >> the problem is, is congress never gets access to the information. by the time we do get access to the information, if we do, it's all old news. the political figures aren't held accountable. from my standpoint, you know, i would much rather/political figures accountable with the truth being exposed to what they did, the wrongdoing, as opposed to the criminal penalties. oftentimes it's difficult to get any charges or convictions, particularly if you're a democrat in washington, d.c., from my standpoint, the more

important imperative here is for the public to understand exactly what is happening inside government, inside the administration, and we never find that out. that is part of the problem we have in terms of our politics today. the american public remains in the dark, misinformation is spread on all sides, and certainly from a conservative viewpoint, one of our frustrations is the censorship of the suppression of information is primarily coming from the left against the conservative viewpoint. >> so, i guess the problem i feel like you run into, what you're saying is, if the justice department decision a crime wasn't committed, they're not going to prosecutor a crime, it sounds like you still want the information out there, because you want to political damage the person that was investigated? >> no. no. chuck, a lot of political wrongdoing does not necessarily result in a crime, but it's still wrong. the american public needs to understand exactly what happened. you look at the political wrongdoing on the part of the fbi.

they went to twitter and they were censoring information. the 51 intelligence operatives that issued a letter saying that the hunter biden computer had all the earmarks of a russian information operation. that letter was an information operation. the fbi had access to the computer in december 2019. senator grassley and i were conducting an investigation during covid, not the easiest thing to do. we were smeared, false intelligence products leaked to the media, designed to smear me, because they leaked it later. the fbi sent almost nine months setting up the ability to sabotage the hunter biden computer should it ever surface, which it did the day after -- we were offered it after we issued or report, but we did our due diligence. we went to the fbi, what do you know about this? they never came clean with us. mr. mcguisic became frustrated, but then nine months of the fbi setting up the process of sack staging hunter biden's computer,

which we now know was authentic, our investigation was accurate, but we were smeared, all that information was censored and suppressed. the fbi, in their actions, impacted the election to a far greater extent that anything that russia or china could have ever hoped to accomplish. these are facts. that's all i'm interested in, i'm interested in the truth. the american public deserves the truth. >> senator, do you have a crime that you think hunter biden committed? i have yet to see anybody explain -- it's not a crime to make money off your last name. >> so, chuck, you ought to read the marco polo report, where they detail all kinds of potential crimes. >> let me stop you there. potential. >> -- about -- about. >> potential -- >> about $30,000 -- chuck, is it a crime to be soliciting and

purchasing prostitution in potential european sex trafficking operations? is that a crime, because chuck grassley and i laid out about $30 thousand dollars paid by hunter biden to those types of individuals. this is about the same time that president biden offered to pay about $100,000 of hunter biden's bills. that is just information. i don't know exactly if there's a crime -- it sounds sleazy as you know what. >> i'll take it your word that you're ethically bothered by hunter biden, are you not? >> i'm a journalist. i deal in facts. senator, my question is, i have skepticism of both parties. i sit here with skepticism of a lot of people's work. >> so do i. >> were you at all concerned -- your senate democrats want to investigate jared kushner's loan from the qatari government when he was working in the

government, negotiating many things in the middle east? are you not concerned about that? i say that, because it seems if you're concerned about what hunter biden did, you should be similarly concerned about jared kushner. >> i'm not targeting individuals -- >> you are targeting an individual. >> chuck, my -- you know, chuck, part of the problem -- this is pretty obvious to anybody watching this. you don't invite me on to interview me, but to argue with me. >> i'm trying to lay out the

facts that senator grassley and i uncovered. they were impressed, censored. unfortunately liberate in the media do understand that, and that's part of the reasons our politics are inflamed. we do not have an unbiased media. >> senator, look -- go to partisan -- senator, look, we're trying to deal with issues and facts. you can go back on the partisan cable cocoon. i understand it's part of your identity. let me move to what happened in brazil. i want to play something that former vice president mike pence said about what happened in brazil. it is evident that what happens in the united states has repercussions around the world. i have no doubt that that tragic day in january of 2021 in this country played some role in sowing seeds in what's going on in brazil.

do you agree with mike pence? >> did the 5670 riots in 2020 play some part? i have no idea of the connection. >> insurrection in congress, you don't see any connection here at all? >> you know, chuck, brazil is brazil. there are issues in terms of election fairness in every election. i can't really comment on brazil. again, i'm not making any connection. >> i'm curious, when it comes to that brief moment where you were handed the potential of alternative electors, and you say it was a brief moment -- >> i wasn't -- i wasn't -- i was never handed -- that's not -- you're incorrect. >> they were asking to hand it to you and -- >> no, chuck. >> you were obviously contemplating it.

>> no, i never was. i was contacted by the attorney of the president of the united states. he wanted to deliver something to the vice president. could he arrange it? i contacted my chief of staff. i had no idea what they wanted to hand the vice president. within an hour, we found out that the vice president wasn't accepting anything, end of story. nothing was delivered. i had no idea what i was being contacted to deliver, and we never delivered it. there's no story there. there never was a story there. everything i've always said has proven to be true, even though the media lied about it. >> have you been interviewed by the fbi or the special counsel's office? >> no. no, there is nothing to interview me about.

i played no role in it whatsoever. >> do you know why congressman kelly thought you would be the best person to hand this list to? >> i have no idea. but congressman kellie denied initially that his office was involved in trying to get the information to the vice president. i told the truth about that. he lied about it. i was smeared for about a week and a half, and by the way -- >> he lied to you or lied about your role? >> he -- he lied about his non-role. he office did play a role. that's what i suspected -- again, this was such a nonevent for me -- weds to go back into you're records to try to discover what happened. chuck, you started this question falsely. you falsely accused me of getting those -- i never took possession.

i never had them. okay? so, again, this has been a complete smear job against me. you say that -- you dabbled in so much of this. >> like chuck grassley and i did -- >> you dabbled so much in this, do you understand why someone might have thought you were willing as to go along with this scheme? >> i did not dabble in very much of this. it's just false. >> very much, there was a lot of work there. >> examining the irregularities of the 2020 election. what you ought to do is go back and read my opening statement. that pretty well lays out exactly what i thought about the 2020 election. the news media never does that. they smear me, lie about me, make these things up. it's ha false narrative. most of the things -- everything i've seen has panned out to be true.

time and time again. i'm happy to come on in a longer format, and we can go over it point by point. >> and i've always said -- remote interviews are never easy when there's a back and forth. >> happy to do it. >> we would love to have you in the studio. last question. donald trump has been a content for a couple months. you have not endorsed him. do you plan on it? >> i let voters do that. i don't make endorsements. >> you're not going to endorse anybody in the presidential race? >> i don't make endorsements. senator ron johnson, i look forward to our face-to-face at some point. thanks for coming on and sharing your perspective. >> so do i. coming up, we'll talk with debbie stabenow, as democrats struggle to defend the leader of their party.

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welcome back. democrats are facing a daunting senate map in 2024, having to defend 23 seats, nearly half of the entire conference. democrats are already bracing challenges to incumbents, and now michigan democratic senator debbie stabenow has become the first democrat on that side of the aisle to not seek welcome back.

democrats are facing a daunting senate map in 2024, having to defend 23 seats, nearly half of the entire conference. democrats are already bracing challenges to incumbents, and now michigan democratic senator debbie stabenow has become the first democrat on that side of the aisle to not seek reelection. it sets the stage for another very competitive race, and perhaps one of the most important battleground states. well, senator stabenow is also number three in democratic leadership. welcome back to "meet the press" -- or welcome "meet the press." >> well, chuck, great to be with you. >> let me start with whap we've been dealing with with president biden and these classified documents. when you look at the timeline and it files like a drip, drip, drip, how concerned are you that perhaps the white house is holding back information a bit too much, leaving democrats out there like yourself in the dark on what to defend or not? >> a little while ago i heard you say someone described it as two accidents, one an accident, one on purpose. it's very much on how it's being handled. so president biden, bringing things forward, they found a

small number of documents, they want to make sure there aren't more, they take it seriously, and they're talking to all the right people. they're not going to defy subpoenas or require fbi raids to get the documents. the president isn't saying that somehow magically when he thinking about classified documents that he can declassify them. i mean, it's totally different right now. both serious, in terms of having classified documents, but the president is doing the right thing. >> you know, the president said

what donald trump did was careless. s -- you are those words he has to eat? >> i lost you for a second. >> he said what donald trump did was careless. does he have to eat those words, considering what happened with him? >> well, it's certainly embarrassing, right? it's embarrassing that you would find a small number of documents, certainly not on purpose. they don't think it's the right thing. they have been moving to correct it, working with the department of justice, working with everyone involved, it is archives. from my perspective, it's one of those moments that obviously they wish hadn't happened. what i am moss concerned about, this is the kind of things the republicans love. we just heard it from my colleague, senator johnson, let's talk about investigations, let's create chaos. let's not talk about the fact we have a manufacturing renaissance going on in this country, more jobs created, lower unemployment rate, higher wages. what they are proposing to that had interfere with you.

they don't want to talk about how to move the country forward. i can tell you people in michigan, they want folks that will work together and get things done and aren't interested in all of this in kay on the, investigation, which is where the republicans feel comfortable. >> you announced your retirement early, which in theory means you're free from politics. so what freedom -- now that you don't have to worry about reelection -- is there an issue you could throw yourself into that might have been more political difficult? >> well, chuck, good question. first of all, i have to say we have a wonderful democratic bunch of new leaders in michigan. this is the moment for me to pass the torch, and it comes at a personal time for me with my 96-year-old mom, which is important for me to make a transition. working at the issues, i've

worked across the aisle for issue after issue after issue. the big issue that has bipartisan support that actually could get done is what we call the farm bill. it's about a safety net for farmers and families. it's the largest invest in land and water conservation for the country, and so that's incredibly important. frankly, we need workers, and one of the things we need to do is comprehensive reform so our farmers have access to a legal system for their workers. >> you've had the luxury in working in an area where everyone wants to see passed. let me ask a few political questions here. should democrats support senator kyrsten sinema's bid? >> from my perspective, we let it play out. we have worked together on many issues. when we look at the gun safety bill, the comprehensive transformational changes in

mental health, she was keep to that. so we'll let that play out a bit, but i'm glad she's working with us, and caucusing with us. >> you think there's a scenario where democrats should support her reelection? >> we'll see going down the road how all of this plays out. i think it's very, very early. >> a lot of people thing that congress is broken. do you share that, or do you think this is just a temporary problem? >> i think it's a very interesting situation, chuck, because on the one hand we see all the division, chaos, and everything that's happening trying to pull the country apart, stop us from governing, but with all of that, we actually in the last two years,

with a 50-50 senate, you don't get closer than 50-50. the democratic house and president biden got more done that at any time literally in our lifetimes. that's not an exaggeration. from my perspective, and the reason we won last time, the reason we will have a majority next time is because we are actually focusing on the things that people care about, putting them first, working across the aisle, when you can't, we stand up to big pharma and big oil. that's why we have a cap on insulin for seniors. starting this months we would have had it for kids and

families if republicans had not blocked it. every -- i'm confident that we're going to have the majority. >> i imagine we'll be talking over the next two years, and we'll see if your optimism holds. senator debbie stabenow, thanks for coming on and sharing your perspective. >> absolutely. with dueling special counsel investigation, divided government, the debt ceiling showdown, will anything get down this year? that's next.

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the fact that they just spent a week ago. this should have been a week where they were away on defense. are you going to say anything to the president tomorrow? >> other than happy king day, i this senator stabenow said, it's embarrassing, but i think republicans ought to be careful that this does not political start to tern against them. as you compared to what trump did and biden did around classified documents. it could end up being something that -- because a lot of people will say, wait a minute, this only spells out more clearly how egregious what trump did was. >> do you think he's doing his best to essential push back? >> i think the reality is the facts here, they discovered this in november. why and this was six years ago. this was his time as vice president of the united states. it's like is the biden administration decided the 12

days of christmas weren't enough. >> i think that matters on both sides of the aisle, what matters is national security, right? i think there's an acknowledgement, and frankly i don't know that that's unanimity. who said, hey, i'm not going to get on him setting up the transparency thing, and how they responded, et cetera, et cetera i think you will try to see republicans try to link these to other investigations -- for example, is there a hunter biden connection? >> i would think the fear is, reverend sharpton, is garland

decides i better move hunter biden into a special investigation. >> i think that becomes the fear, but you have to deal with whether hunter biden, if any of these allegations involve the president and how that plays

out. if it does not involve the president, i think it becomes a different ball game as to why he would even entertain that. >> marc, you have an -- sort of the invisible primary part. how do you think both of the investigation -- does it paralyze thing?

>> i honestly don't think it does impact much of the cycle. >> i do think, you know, there's an indication that the biden administration takes it, i don't know if having your classified documents next to your corvette makes it safer, but the fact that the next day janet yellen is putting out warnings about the debt ceiling, i think they're definitely trying to change -- >> hallie, that felt clumsy. >> at the same time there's a real concern about that in june. >> but also -- what i have hearty you have to start thinking about it now, so come june it's not a hot mess, if you will. >> mike pence pretty definitive as around homage to january 6th, is that concerning? the real he said i'm not going to evacuation is i don't want the world to see this is what happens to the hallmark of democracy. that's why he stayed in the capitol, and what he was

pleased, is that the world saw america complete its work that day. >> this year is the 60th anniversary on the march on washington. >> tomorrow we'll announce tomorrow at the king breakfast here, with president biden as the keynote speaker, and we're going to call for a march on washington 60th anniversary. we'll we have seen a spike in hate crimes. unlike we have seen in the last couple decades. we want a unified march against hate crimes against those that should enforce the criminality of it, and show a real union son among different groups that have

become -- >> you're hoping this to be multiethnic, multireligion -- >> across the board, which was dr. king's dream. we really need to deal with the lack of equality on how we prosecute them. when we come back, covid cases are rising across the u.s. we'll look inside the latest numbers, and what the nation's political divide reveals about the updated vaccine. the

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welcome back. data download time. it's january, it's cold in most of the country. the past two years, there's been a spike in covid, why? because everyone goes inside. the last 90 days we've seen ahn uptick. most people aren't testing as much as they used to. mandatory test sergeant down. so there's some apples to apples here now, if you compare now, though, to a year ago, we're in terrific shape. this is where we are in january 2022. here we are a year later.

yes, it's up, but overall from year to year it's down. even with deaths, you see the big spikes we had at the start of 2022, we're seeing a spike here, but far below where we were. another interesting point we want to point out has to do with vaccine and the booster. the updated booster among those over the age of 65, does not have a lot of traction. . compare that to the initial vaccine series? 94% of those over 65 took it. look at where we are today. that's not good when it comes to seeing where this virus is going to go. if you want this look at it, welcome back. data download time. it's january, it's cold in most of the country. the past two years, there's been a spike in covid, why? because everyone goes inside. the last 90 days we've seen ahn uptick. most people aren't testing as much as they used to. mandatory test sergeant down. so there's some apples to apples here now, if you compare now, though, to a year ago, we're in terrific shape. this is where we are in january 2022. here we are a year later. yes, it's up, but overall from year to year it's down. even with deaths, you see the big spikes we had at the start of 2022, we're seeing a spike here, but far below where we were. another interesting point we want to point out has to do with vaccine and the booster. the updated booster among those over the age of 65, does not

have a lot of traction. compare that to the initial vaccine series? 94% of those over 65 took it. look at where we are today. that's not good when it comes to seeing where this virus is going to go. if you want this look at it, here's our old political map. look at how blue those states are. joe biden carried more than half of them. if you look at the states below the national average of taking the updated booster shot among those over 65, it won't surprise you, it's mostly trump states, mostly red. we still have the awful political divide among folks over 65. up next, in our "meet the press" minute, we'll hear from the reverend martin luther king, jr., when he was on this program in 1966, and what he had to say about the value of nonviolent protests. i was frustrated. all of that finger-pricking and all of that pain, my a1c was still stuck. there is a better way to manage diabetes. the dexcom g6 continuous glucose monitoring system eliminates painful fingersticks, helps lower a1c, and it's covered by medicare. before dexcom g6, i couldn't enjoy a single meal. i was always trying to out-guess my glucose and it was awful. (female announcer) dexcom g6 is a small wearable that sends your glucose numbers to your phone or dexcom receiver without painful fingersticks. the arrow shows the direction your glucose is heading: up, down, or steady, so you can make better decisions

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welcome back. this weekend we honor of legacy of dr. martin luther king, jr. in 1966, on this program, he responded to criticism that protests were becoming violent and counterproductive in the fight for racial justice. >> it is very important to see the difference between nonviolent demonstrations and riots. it may be true that in a demonstration people react with violence to a nonviolent demonstrator, you but you don't blame the demonstrators. this would be like blaming the wrong of demand, because it precipitated the act of robbery. ultimately, the society must condemn the robber, and not the robbed.

it must protect the robbed. this is where we are in these demonstrations. i'm still convinced that there is nothing more powerful to drama advertise a social evil than the tramp-tramp of marching feet. before we go, sign up for our newsletter. scan the qr code. that's all we have for this week. join us next week, because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press."