back in the '90s and all that training has certainly paid off in the way they've performed. again, thank you. thanks so much, general. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports" follow us online and on twitter. chris jansing will be here right after these messages. good day i'm chris jansing live in msnbc head equarters in new york city. political and ethical problems facing democrats and republicans growing deeper by the day. more pages of classified material found at the president's home, more head-scratching reports about republican congressman george santos' questionable behavior as his party looks the other way. where does all of it lead? plus, president biden honoring the legacy of martin luther king jr., touting

economic advances for underserved communities, expanded voting rights and a robust defense of democracy, but how much can he really get done? then finally, we'll look how the massive infrastructure legislation passed last year may help restore one historic black and brown neighborhood in new orleans to its former glory. not by adding anything but taking something away. that story later in the hour. but we start with the ethical dilemma staring republicans and democrats in the face. and the growing frustration with both parties over what some see as self-inflicted wound. for democrats, yet another call for information on the biden documents controversy. this one, from the republican head of the house oversight committee. he wants the visitors' log from biden's home in wilmington after biden's attorney said five more pages of classified documents were found there earlier in the week. a spokesman for the secret service said, those logs don't

exist. but republicans insist that just adds to the list of unanswered questions. >> how obnoxious are they, really? the truth is he suppressed the information before the election so that it would not have impact during the election. that sounds like a little bit of engineering from my perspective and the second thing is the stench of hypocrisy coming from this administration is making the american people sick and one of the reasons why we have so little confidence in this administration and in government overall. >> for republicans, already tired of being asked about congressman george santos and his lies, two new reports raising yet more questions about his background came out this weekend. one connects him to a company, the s.e.c. says defrauded its investors. the second links him to the cousin of a russian oligarch. the "new york times" says some of this was known last year when a background study on santos found "fraudulent academic

degrees, involvement in the firm involved in a ponzi scheme, malt pot convictions suspension of driver's licence all knowing he was openly gay had been married to a woman." bringing in msnbc's reporter and a former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida and msnbc political analyst. we pointed out repeatedly highway the biden and trump documents, actual facts of the cases are very different, but i want to play what jim comer, head of the oversight committee said just yesterday. >> well, my concern is that special counsel was called for, but yet hours after that we sill had the president's personal attorneys who have no security clearance still rummaging around the president's residence looking for things. i mean that would essentially be

a crime scene, so to speak, after the appointment of a special counsel. >> so if you are looking for classified materials republicans ask why send lawyers who don't have a security clearance? and does all of it just allow republicans to raise more questions here? >> you know, i think that observation, chris harks superficial appeal. let's only get people looking for documents that have the absolute highest security clearance. i don't know that that comports with reality. i handled classified documents when i was an arm jag handling an espionage case and had a top secret sci clearance, and the documents that you're dealing with are marked. they're clearly marked. many of them are in a folder that is clearly marked. so i don't -- you can argue perhaps a best practice is, but i don't know that it's a problem, an investigative problem, having president biden's attorneys look at things and if they come upon a folder

marked "top secret" they stop. they alert the department of justice and then, proper procedures are followed. so i think this sounds good on it's surface. i don't know that it's necessary or practical. >> so monica, i think glenn got to the heart of what is a problem, right, for the white house? which is even if they did things by the book, even if everything they did was legal, the questions raised cause so many problems, so many headlines and i'm wondering, my understanding you have new reporting from the white house about not just their reaction to all of these things, but also, are they got to cooperate with these two house investigations? >> absolutely right, chris. it adds to the growing list of questions even though the white house said the moment we located these classified documents, with "lerted proper authorities, handed them over and did things by the book. these other ongoing questions surrounding why this happened in

the first place, how long it took the white house to make this public after media reports continues to dog this white house. it's as much about the communication strategy and public optics here. so speaking of publicly, the president hasn't answered questions from reporters now for the fourth straight day. he's been ignoring those, but privately, i'm told, that he is frustrated overall with the ongoing backlash to the controversy feeling they tried to do everything in the manner appropriate because some of the news was bungled in the last couple of days in terms of transparency the white house feels they won't get the credit they would like on that front and they are concerned here about some americans conflating the two very different cases, as we've been talking about, with former president trump and the more than 300 classified records that were seized at mar-a-lago by the fbi after months of not cooperating. the white house wants to make that distinction very clear. but at the same time right now

they're not just dealing with this special counsel probe, but house republicans are launching their own investigations. so you did have chairman james comer talking about wanting to request these visitor logs from wilmington, delaware, a private home, and the white house saying pointedly today, well, they don't exist, because the secret service says it is a personal residence and they don't maintain that. they do security checks who comes and goes. of course, anyone who interacts with the first family is screened in that manner but they don't keep hold of any of that information so it's not something they'll provide but shows you republicans will keep asking for a lot of things as the white house says they will continue to cooperate with the department of justice review. >> glenn, to the point we haven't heard anything from the president in four days now, legally, is there a limit to what he can say or frankly what either party can say about these cases that are under investigation while a special counsel is involved? >> yeah. i think depends on your

perspective, chris. if i put my american citizen hat on i want all the details in realtime. put my prosecutor hat on, i don't think the biden administration should be saying anything. there is presently a special counsel investigation up and running, and the last thing any prosecutor wants to do is have information sort of tumbling out into the public square that could negatively impact the ongoing investigation. if witnesses hear that information, they could either nefariously or innocently maybe subconsciously mold their future testimony. so i think legally speaking the right answer, as unsatisfying as it may be is that the administration should not be talking about this. >> yeah. in fact, congressman, the white house and democrats have been claiming transparency says this is so much different than the situation with trump. take a listen. >> president biden and his team have reached out to the archives. they've reached out to the department of justice.

they have done everything they can to cooperate. >> that is a very different posture than what we saw with donald trump where the he was fighting for a period of more than eight months to not turn over hundreds of missing documents that the archives was asking about. >> there was no effort to hold on to them, no effort to conceal them. no effort to obstruct the justice department's investigation. all of that is very sharp contrast to donald trump's handling of the situation. >> neer the les, difficult to defend the president? >> sure. >> senate stabenow president biden's criticism of trump during those revelations made is embarrassing. the word se used was "certainly embarrassing." >> well, look, context is important. that narrative you just played is exactly right. joe biden based on what we know now, that's an important caveat,

as an example how a president or elected official should handle a matter in which they discover they're in possession of documents, in contrast to donald trump who by all appearances looks like he engaged with criminal intent in the hiding of documents. ultimately i think the failure by joe biden was this, chris. simply communications 101. you can't have three different discoveries, because that shows you're not actually taking it seriously. when they made the first discovery the president should have ordered a wholesale response. got them all, responded correctly and there won't be further comment. from a p.r. standpoint, this is very bad. republicans will continue to hit biden but also are going to hit the department of justice, because recall, one of their central thesis is that the government is favoring democrats. so they're going to go after the doj just as hard as they are on joe biden and going after doj

might actually have more legs with this story for republicans than going after biden himself. >> so let's look at the other story. george santos and the number of accusations, revelations that keep piling up. the "wall street journal" said he had ties to a company that operated like a ponzi scheme. the "washington post" reports he may have had a business relationship with the cousin of a sanctioned russian oligarch. even that sound making rounds over the weekend where he does a radio interview and says he blew up both of his knees when he was playing championship volleyball in college. a college, by the way, he now acknowledging he never attended. how long can they let this escalate? republicans? congressman? >> well, i think they will let this continue to go until there are credible criminal charges against santos, which two weeks ago we didn't think it would end up in a criminal space. it very well appears it might because of sources of money.

otherwise, what republicans in the house will do. quietly recruit a republican to run in in a district in two years. don't wan t away the seat but give to support to santos. not help or hurt him, unless there are criminal charges and then move to remove him from the house. >> so kevin mccarthy, you know, says santos should face the ethics committee. is that happening? how long might that take? where do you see this going in terms of internally within the house? >> yeah. they are notorious, though, for doing that behind closed doors and very secretively. though i think there's a little location irony in that our producers staking out santos all week note that his office is just one floor directly above where the ethics committee meets. so that might be notable location up here on capitol hill, but, look. these kinds of investigations are slow moving and we don't typically get many details on them as they are ongoing. i think the important thing here, too, is that while that

investigation is happening, you are not hearing clamoring from leadership to say that they want this guy to resign. usually you would see house leadership here in washington echo what the home state party is saying. in this case, that's not what we're seeing at all. in fact, it's probably in part because of what congressman jolly was just saying. the idea that while there are the legal concerns here, the optics, of course, are horrible for republicans that they have this man in the ranks after lying about his entire resume but also politic concerns. they already have a slim and tenuous majority here in the house. republicans would not be eager to open up another election that could impact one seat in their majority and republicans need the numbers to stay where they are now. >> from a legal standpoint, glenn what is the most risky

thing? questioning campaign finance stuff? do you see a legal opening here? >> yeah. lying to your constituents is probably not a crime, but lying on certain forms and documents that you fill out as a candidate, particularly if they're filled out under the penalties of perjury that could be a crime, and, of course, campaign finance charges could also be in the offing. i have to say, chris, pretty eye-popping when i saw the reporting that he was saying he was earning a $55,000 salary in 2020, and then in 2021 he loaned his own campaign $700,000. so i'm not a mathematician, but seems he would have had to have saved every penny of his salary for 13 years to then loan his own campaign $700,000. feels like there may be some campaign finance problems there. >> glenn kirschner, ali vitali,

monica jolly, thank you for sticking around, ale. two weeks of devastating and relentless rain storms continue to bring misery to millions including roads crumbling right before their eyes. >> right here! oh, my god! get away! >> it's not over yet. more than 7 million californians at risk of widespread floodwaters as the "new york times" reports from the monterey peninsula near san francisco, the santa cruz mountains, lake tahoe, the sierra nevadas, merced county to los angeles county. nbc's dana griffin is in capetola, california, in the middle of it all. dana, how much longer there you wonder can people hang on? tell us what the situation is right now, and what it looks like over the next several days. >> reporter: yeah. as far as hanging on, chris. people are very fatigued. this is the tenth storm that has hit this region since christmas. the good news is, it's likely

going to fizzle out. you can see, we've got light rain, but take a look behind me. you can see the creek now feeding into the ocean. this is moving so swiftly right now, and in the distance you see high waves just crashing in. also in the distance there, this is the capetola wharf. you see that huge chunk there? missing two weeks ago when 20-foot waves crashed towards it. some of the things we're seeing here in this area. a lot of flooding. a lot of high waves and winds here and a lot of businesses have their areas boarded up to try to keep the water out, but the businesses that we are going to be passing here in just a moment now are all boarded up, have been for days, because it's just not safe. a lot of the windowsen have been broken, and it's just a mess. really, people are trying to clean up now. we're going to show you just a little bit here. this is the, where people bring

families, come have a glass of wine. we took a look inside. a piece of that wharf we just showed you is now sitting in the dining room inside this restaurant, and look over here. some of the debris. this is indicative of the debris washing ashore. this huge log here seeing this up and down, littered across capetola beach. this trash can here, this dumpster is filled with debris and another one feet away. you can see, this entire area has been roped off, because it's just too dangerous for people to come here. it's unclear exactly how long these businesses will be shuttered, but the thing people are really hoping for is for the rain to stop so that california can dry out, and that's the good news. the remainder of january, for the most part, is expected to be dry, and that's going to help these businesses try to rebuild. chris? >> oh, dana griffin. thank you for that. president biden puts voting rights back in the spotlight, but any hope of delivering on one of his biggest campaign promises faces a matsch are obstacle. a republican-led house.

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for the second day in a row president biden is urging people to remember dr. martin luther king jr. fight equality. >> we face another crossroads one that will decide what this country looks like several decades from now.

we choose democracy over atock crazy or community over chaos, love over hate? the questions of our time that i ran for president to try to help answer and that dr. king's life and legacy, in my view, show us the way forward. >> that was just moments ago. the president joins reverend al sharpton at the national action network's mlk breakfast. after becoming the first president to speak at ebenezer baptist church in atlanta yesterday. with a gop-controlled house, is there any chance of fulfilling his campaign promise to protect, to expand voting rights? let's bring in nbc's kara lee and chairman of african american studies and an msnbc contributor. good to have you both. carol, president biden did call for congress to pass the john lewis voting rights act, in his speech today, but we all know what the political realities are. talk about the white house strategy and, frankly, their

realistic expectations? >> chris, once republicans took control of the house the idea getting voting rights passed was dimmer than when democrats had control of the house and a 50/50 senate with democrats controlling there. something that the president a year ago really stepped to the plate and gave a full-throated endorsement of, would support a filibuster to get voting legislation passed it didn't happen and that was with a democratic-controlled congress. this year, the leader, the president, making that pitch saying he still supports and wants to see done and will continue to talk about it but it wasn't the centerpiece of what we heard the president talk about in the past two days. those themes were largely focused on what he would talking about at a 2024 election campaign. the battle for the soul of the

nation, running for his presidency since 2020 and talked at length about his economic poles and in his view benefited black americans, low enum employment, to bring equity in housing, his nomination of ketanji brown jackson to the supreme court. e heard from the president he wants voting rights passed, the president is realistic that's not going to happen and the argument he's making particularly to the audience today, i told you if you had my back i would have yours. here's all the ways i have. stick with me here and this is something, voting rights, and other civil rights legislation we can try to pursue in the future. >> carol, thank you for that. eddie, the intersection of race and democracy has always been complicated, and there are a couple things joe biden said yesterday and today i want to get your take on. one is, you just heard him say, we're at an inflection point.

i think saying that for years. if we've been saying it for years is it truly an inflection point? but he also said there's always hope. i wonder if you agree and if so where do you find it? >> well, i find -- first of all wonder follow see you, chris. >> you, too. >> i find hope in us. right? that everyday ordinary human beings could find the courage and will to figure out how to live different differently. how to you otherwise, but we've always been in an inflection point where it comes to race in the country. go back to '64, madison trying to justify this in the constitution. think what happened in the context of the civil war in radical reconstruction and ways in which we betrayed the proths promise of a multiracial democracy. here we are battling around the

issue of voting once again, which is an echo of the battle around the 15th amendment, an echo around the battle of how do we account for these people who are once human beings and chattel. it's a through-on to the period. >> think about if you have hope and, look, a lot of people, when you ask, so what can the average american do who is concerned about this issue you're often told, you vote. but beyond that, you know, i look to people like shea moss, right, and her mom, ruby freeman who stood up for what is important. what happened in their, at her voting site. >> uh-huh. >> the way that her mom, what she endured. all of those things, serve as an example, but for the average

american, who cares about this issue beyond voting, what can they do, eddie? what can they do? >> it's such a hard question. you know, i was thinking about a speech that dr. king delivered at vanderbilt law school in 1962. entitled "the ethics of integration." "the ethics of integration." what he does in this speech, chris, he makes a difference between desegregation and integration. desegregation is a short-term goal. integration is the full recognition of personality, dig any and standing of every human being where we live a life fully together in the united states we are walking mysteries to each other, and intimacies of our hatred in those segregated spaces that allow hatred and fear and grievous to

metastasize. king says we're physically desell gra gated, spiritually segregated and if we don't fundamentally integrate this society we will find ourselves over and over again dealing with this contradiction. so what do we do in our everyday lives? we have to figure out how to be together different. commit ourselves to justice. commit ourselves to justice broadly. but also we have to break down the barriers that keep us as mysteries to one another, chris, and i think if we live up to dr. king's legacy in this moment, address the structural barrier but also address spiritual barriers that continue to produce, right, the hatred that threatens to overwhelm our country. >> all of us with different kind of marching orders on this day when we remember martin luther king jr. and theble ways he marched and changed this country. eddie glaude, always an honor to you have on the program.

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40 people including 3 children are dead, and a massive search and rescue operation is under way. people locally say 550 people are involved in that rescue after an apartment building was hit by a russian missile strike on saturday. by ukraine's count 72 apartments destroyed. 164 others damaged from a missile known as an aircraft carrier killer. once again, russia faces accusations of war crimes, but president vladimir putin told russian tv everything is going according to plan. nbc's matt bradley is in kyiv for us. what's the latest you're seeing and hearing on the ground? what's the word on the search and rescue efforts, matt? >> reporter: yeah, chris, what we're actually hearing, surprised me, this search and rescue effort is actually still yog ongoing more than 48 hours

after this missile struck. the last time we actually saw someone being pulled out alive from this horrific scene was yesterday. seems as though there's a sliver of hope and rescue workers are trying their best even though we heard from some saying they don't believe anybody could still be left alive in that building but still trying to rescue people. it's not just a search. an actually rescue effort still going on, but this is going to rank upon probably one of the most lethal russian air strikes against the civilian pop a -- populationeer in ukraine since the war began 11 months ago. the kremlin spoke, addressed this issue and actually said this wasn't their doing. that they didn't target this building. we heard from i think demitra peskov who implied this was a missile intercepted by ukraine air defense systems. i've been around here in the capital and elsewhere in the country and seeing some of

what's falling from intercepted missiles. it's very small. really kind of like trash falling from the sky. that can hurt property and it can kill people, but when you look at that wreckage, it really calls into question what the kremlin is saying. they almost certainly launched a missile right into that apartment building. this was not the falling debris from a missile that was intercepted. chris? >> matt bradley, thank you for the update. appreciate it. after 30 years on the run, italy's most-wanted man, mafia bas denaro arrested this morning at a private health clinic in sicily. police say the 60-year-old ordered some of that nation's most brute's killings including of two prosecutors and is thought to be leader of the notorious cosa nostra organized crime syndicate. officials believe he continued to run the organization even while in hiding all of those years, when caught police say he was in line for a covid shot and briefly and unsuccessfully tried

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yellen and that defaulting could cause irreparable harm to the economy. what exactly happens? researchers at a think tank third way estimated the u.s. could lose roughly 3 million jobs. individual americans could lose thousands in 401(k) savings and those looking for a new 30-year mortgage could pay an additional $130,000. bringing in "usa today" washington bureau chief susan page, david jolly is back with us. congressman, i have ceiling is on americans, but just went over a few ways that potential inaction could hurt the american people. how serious could the consequences be? >> oh, could be very serious if republicans in the house decide they're willing to rattle world markets to score some type of political point. so very importantly, chris you know, we all know government

shutdowns. that's a failure to fund the government on an annual basis. this is different. the debt limit increase is something that congress has to pass by law to allow us to take on more debt and pay our bills. it is akin to paying your credit card company. if you fail to do that, our government stays open but we begin to default on the debt we owe to other people, and ultimately it rattles world markets, jeopardizes credit worthiness of the united states. lenders charge nor money and you see thelications you mentioned. kevin mccarthy promised he would not agree to lifting the debt limit but he can limit that promise. he only controls the senate, there is the house and the democratic white house and those that want a clean debit lift and not do this. kevin mccarthy has to break one of his early promises to the

freedom caucus. >> i think you just answered. let me play devil's advocate and say what conservative republicans -- not just conservative republicans. they say at some point we have to get spending under control. at some point we just have to stop this. so what's the answer to it? >> stop giving away tax cuts and don't spend as much money during the trump administration. both like to spend and republicans have as much culpability as democrats do. in your households or government, most important pay your bills. pay the money you said you would. that is a point of government integrity and should be a conservative position. republicans will misrepresent the dynamics of this and they also ultimately will declare victory even though they're suffer defeat in this debate and i don't think they'll tell the american people they didn't get done what he wanted to but not

getting done what they say they would get done. >> and your poll found 58% of americans seemed unlikely that republicans will do any compromising with democrats in the next two and a half years. i don't know. will this debt limit fight be any different just because of the enormity of what would happen if it doesn't get done? are stakes just too high not to find compromise? talk to me about the poll and how it plays? >> very little expectation, we found, things getting done in congress the next few years based on what americans saw after the first step of electing a speaker. not usually the hardest thing congress what do do. this does not bode well for political ax vists raising the debt limit. it does involve compromise. we think it's not hard to see the white house and democratic-controlled senate agreeing on raising the debt limit but the house has to go

along as well and the ho us is house is under narrow republican control and a freedom caucus vowed not to allow the debt ceiling to be raised unless there are steps taken to control spending. that is an area that where it's hard to reach compromise and the fact is, neither side is willing to give much to the other side, and we saw just in 2011, when we approached the debt ceiling crisis how it rattled the market, caused real economic consequences and in that case didn't even breach the debt. we may go further than in this time around. >> you think so. possible to go beyond then? >> i think it's possible, sure. they've got, was it the extraordinary measure start with the treasury department janet yellen said thursday. some week to manipulate the numbers to avoid a crisis but the time will come maybe in early june when the rubber hits the road and given that it took

15 ballots to elect a speaker i don't know why we would expect this to be a smooth process to raise the debt ceiling. >> well, that does raise a good point, david. we called it at the top. a major and bitter battle. any doubt it's going to be that? >> no. republicans are going to take this all the way to the end, because, again, kind of playing a losing hand. they don't have the ability to get everything they want, but they can try to squeeze out some concessions. the question is, are there more than five house republicans that are going to blink say, look, kevin, you cannot take this all the way to the brink and risk defaulting on our debt. i know there are more than five house republicans just want to lift the debt limit. courage to take on the speaker on this? meaning some type of democratic-republican coalition to get it done? ultimately votes in the end because it has to but a painful process. is that pain all internal in terms of american politics or get externalized into world markets is the risk, that's the

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monster. i want to bring in trymaine lee from new orleans, i know you know this neighborhood well. what could the infrastructure bill do to help build back the community, and frankly what might it all also not be able to accomplish? >> that indeed is the billion dollar question. what could be done to the monstrosities like this. the money that is going to the cities to help them reconnect, and where the communities have been divided by infrastructure racism, help them reconnect. but here in new orleans, generations of new orleansens here in treme, an historically black neighborhood have dealt with this symbol of what many call structural racism and some in the community hope it is torn down and others beautify it. and one thing is clear, something had to be done. take a listen. >> it affects the psyche and the

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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. the day was january 9th, 2023. president biden woke up to continui headlines about a republican party in disarray, for the speaker who could barely get the gavel giving everything up but his shoes to a group of conservative rebels not to mention a freshman lawmakers who looks to be a pathological liar and potentially a criminal one as well. when president biden sat down with aides, they probably noted that while the gop seemed to be spiraling, the president's own prospects never seemed better. the midterms were a win. the stock market was inching its way back up. and inflation was inching its way back down. by late afternoon, he might have even heard positive talk amongst prominent dems about a 2024 run. but come dinnertime, all that good news would seem a mile away, one week later, seven days, that happy talk feels a world away,