tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC January 16, 2023 9:00pm-10:00pm PST
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general. then we learned that there is also been an additional shooting at the house of the incoming speaker of the new mexico state legislature. we have since learned some additional details about the shootings targeting individual democratic politicians. it is alarming, it is not an individual pot shot here in there. for example, on december 4th, it was a shots that were fired into a home of one democratic count county commissioner in new mexico. that was december 4th. then on december 11th, it was 12 bullets that were fired into the home of a county commissioner, again, this is all in new mexico, all democrats. december 4th at one politicians home, he's a county commissioner, a shots fired into his home. a week later, december 11th, 12 bullets fired into the home of
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another democratic county commissioner. then on january 3rd, it was a state representative, a democratic state representative named linda lopez in new mexico. on january 3rd, shots rang out in her house, three bullets went through her daughter's bedroom. her ten year old daughter was inside that bedroom asleep. so, that is three of them, december 4th, december 11th, january 3rd. but all in all, in and out being six different democratic officials who appear to have been targeted. initially, to county commissioners, and a state representative. then state attorney general, then a state senator. so, six shootings all the other. again, all targeting democratic party officials in new mexico. tonight, albuquerque police
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have announced that they have made an arrest in the shootings. i said this is shocking news, the reason it is shocking news is because the man they have arrested and charged is a republican candidate for a state house seat in last year's elections. he was the republican nominee for state legislative election, this past november. albuquerque's house district 14, his name is solomon pena. he lost that election by more than 3600 votes to the incumbent democrat who hold that seat. mr. pinion was an unusual candidate. there was a local right up on his candidacy in the set of a new mexican. it noted that solomon pinion, despite being the republican nominee for the state legislative seat, he was a convicted felon many times over. he had been convicted, in fact,
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of 19 different felonies. including burglary, larceny, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and receiving stolen property. as a result of those multiple felony convictions, he spent almost seven years in prison. but then the republican party picked him to be their nominee for the state legislature. again, he made it to the general election as the republican nominee. he lost the election to the democratic incumbent, but now police allege his arrest, that he hired people to shoot at these democratic officials homes and offices. in a press conference just tonight, albuquerque officials say that solomon peña pulled the trigger himself at least one of the shootings. but they also made clear that they have evidence connecting
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this candidate to four of the sikh shootings that they have been investigating while the other two are still under investigation. again, this is just a remarkable development in this story. the lead in the albuquerque journal tonight is this, albuquerque police department has arrested salman peña, and unsuccessful republican candidate for the house district 14 seat. in connection with the shootings of local democratic politicians homes. sheath harold said and unsuccessful candid in the 22 election is accused of conspiring with and paying other men to shoot at the homes of two county commissioners and to state legislators. again, that shows that they're connecting him to four of the sikh shootings that they have been investigating. they're saying they are not connecting him and these men, they believe he hired the other two shootings. those two other shootings remain under investigation. here is albuquerque's mayor speaking tonight after the arrest was announced. >> the situation today i think obviously points out that the shootings were orchestrated, they were doing just attacks, not only to these individuals, which is personally the most terrifying thing, but fundamentally also to democracy. that is why this is so terrible. this type of radicalism is a
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threat to our nation. it has made its way to our doorstep right here in albuquerque mexico. we are going to push back, we will not allow this to collapse the threshold. fundamentally, at the end of the day, this was about eight right wing radical, an election denier who was arrested today. someone who did the worst imaginable thing you can do when you're a political disagreement, which is turn to violence. >> that is the albuquerque mayor speaking tonight after the rest of this republican state legislative candidate. he was announced by albuquerque
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police. police say that he believed that he pulled a trigger in one of these shootings targeting the homes and offices of democratic elected officials. they believe that he conspired with and paid for the men to fire into the homes of county commissioners and state legislators. you heard the mayor there reference, this was about a right wing radical, an election denier who was arrested today. what that references, i believe, are the frequent public statements on social media by this republican candidate. maintaining that he didn't actually lose this election in which he was the republican candidate this past november. again, the republican party nominated him to be their
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candidate for the state legislative sleet out of albuquerque in november. he lost by a large margin, by more than 3500 votes. since that, he has maintained that he didn't really lose in the election was rigged against him. local coverage of his candidacy has noted that, in the words of the santa fe new mexico, a quote gushing supporter of former president donald trump. he appears to have emulated trump in rejecting the results of the election that he lost. but police in albuquerque tonight say he went much further than that. accusing him tonight, formally charging him with having pulled the trigger himself and led a conspiracy with four other men to shoot into the homes of other democrat officials. so again, this is just breaking tonight, we will bring you more on this as we learn more. we do know the names of these half dozen democratic elected officials in new mexico who we believe were targeted in the string of attacks. we have calls out to those elected officials who were reportedly targeted in these attacks as we click statement from them. we are able to get in contact with him over this hour, we will revisit the story as we learn more. i knew that was a strange story out of albuquerque when we first started covering it. i did not expect that it would develop in this way. it was actually a swathe rate on this guy's apartment today. it resulted in the first public knowledge that he was the man who had been arrested. as i said, we will bring you more as we learn more. today of course is the martin luther king day federal holiday, i hope you had a day off from work or from school today. we celebrate what would have been the 94th birthday of dr. martin luther king junior. i know 94 is old, we all hope to make it to 94. honestly, it's not that old. there are lots of 94 year old still with us, still in our
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family, still in our communities. i say that just because i think we think of dr. martin luther king as not just another generation, even another century, i think we can think of him as part of history. we think of him as having have been of another era on this earth, long before our own. but when you hear it that it would've been his 94th birthday, you realize it was not that long ago. he lived and worked among us. had he lived, had he not been assassinated, he might well be among us today. he would just be turning 94. he might well have spent another 50 years among us as a controversial activist. and orator, a thorn in a side, a kind of moral emergency beacon. insistence, interrupted. think about all the different u.s. presidents that could've driven absolutely crazy by them. at the time he was living among us in his 90s. do you have your phone on you,
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or someone new york you? if you are like me, increasingly it is never very far. i used to be kind of attentive to not always have my phone on me. i used to try to put it aside if i was working, or biden want to be distracted, or if i was watching or listening to something. now i feel like it is always on the table in front of me, it is always in my pocket. when your phone rings and it is a tele-marketer or a robocall, phones now will usually say something on the screen like, spam likely, or probable spam. i feel like we all make the joke when that happens. it is my boyfriend, a spam likely, he was called me around this time. because of scams and spam, we are trained basically to not answer calls that come in on our mobile phones. from unfamiliar numbers unless we have to answer them for some reason. sometimes the spam and the scams come in as text messages or as emails. but we are increasingly trained
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not to fall for those either. we all sort of know that you should do, we know when something is scamming. we don't click on links that someone sent us unless we know who sent that link and why they sent it to us, what it links to. we know not to open attachments emails unless we know exactly who sent the attachment and why, and what it is. i think we all inclusively, no matter how old we are and how tech native we are, i think we all have developed some good defensive reflexes about how to not let that actors use our phones against us, particularly
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as we have the more and more integrated into our lives. if we do make a mistake, if we accidentally do open something we're not supposed to, or we click on something we should not have cooked on, at least we usually can tell oh, that is where i went wrong, that was the bad email, that was the bad text, that was the bad link, i should have fallen for it. that at least can help you identify the source of the scam, the source of the attack, who was trying to get at you through your phone. but what if you didn't have to do anything wrong. what if someone could target your mobile phone without you having to click on a link or open an attachment, or even answer a call. what if just by having your
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phone number, someone who missed you harm could take complete control of your phone from afar. again, without you doing anything wrong, and without you knowing that they had control of it. they could see all your contacts, they could read all of your texts. they could read all of your emails, they could see all of your photos and videos. they can see everything your calendar, they could listen in on all of your calls. without you knowing, they could use the location data in your phone to pinpoint your exact personal location at anytime,
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24 hours a day. that could turn on the microphone in your phone to listen in wherever you are. like a turn on the camera on your phone to see and see whatever you're doing. again, without you ever doing what they were doing. again, without you doing anything wrong to make it possible. it turns out that kind of technology exists. somebody without you knowing could access your phone and do all of those things on your phone and see everything that you do on your phone and have done on your phone. that technology exists. imagine how dangerous a tool that would be against civil rights activists. imagine how dangerous the tool it would have been against the martin luther king day era civil rights movement. in fact, this technology, it
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not only exists, not like a concert card, it's only something that has been deployed. it is just been developed in a lab. it actually has been used already by repressive governments around the world to target exactly who you think they would target with a tool like that. this thing is marketed supposedly as a law enforcement tool, anti-terrorism tool. but government officials have used it around the world against their personal enemies, their ex lives, their political rivals. of course, they've used against opposition figures and journalists, human rights activists, civil rights activists, advocates for minority groups. whoever it is that is that countries thrown inside, whoever it is that is that countries insisted more begin. whoever is making change and leading movements, whoever is the book is called pegasus, it is written by two journalists. lebron and's dream. they expose the existence of this technology and it's used by reproductive governments around the world. the big break in them came when they got a list of 50,000 phones, have been selected for targeting. with this finishes software. i call texas. with that list of 50,000 numbers in hand, these journalists launched an international reporting project to discover what the software was, where came from, and who is being used against. as i said, the book, which is called pegasus, comes out at midnight tonight. i wrote the introduction to the book. here's a little piece of it from the audio book. >> the insidious power of -- it was completely invisible to the victim. you had no way to know if the bodies were reading your texts and emails and listening into your calls and even your
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in-person meetings until they use their ability to track your exact location to send the men with guns to meet you. for the pegasus project you succeed and expose the scale of the scandal, the journalists knew they would need to be able to diagnose an infection or unintended infection on an individual phone. claudia figure out how to do it. working quite literally long, these two took on a multibillion dollar corporation that employed 550 well paid cyber specialists, many with the highest levels of military cyber warfare training. to test that goliath, these two davids had he fashion their own slingshots. they had to invent the methods and tools of their forensics on the fly. that they succeeded in that is as improbable as it is important, for all of our six. you're also is the story of the victims of pegasus, among them are those who hold enough power that you might expect that they will be protected from this kind of total list intrusion.
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heads of state, high-ranking royals, senior politicians, law enforcement figures. and then there is the people who governments the world over have always like to put in the crosshairs. opposition figures, dissidents, human rights activists, academics. laurence and sandrine focus on the group most representative, that is journalists. it is no surprise that texas has been turned full blast on reporters and editors. in order to harass, intimidate, and silence. if this anti-democratic authoritarian nightmare can not be safely reported upon, it won't be understood. if it is understood, there is no chance that it will be stopped. >> again, that is from the introduction i did to this book pegasus, it comes out tonight at midnight. i did not write the whole book, i just did the introduction because i think the story is incredible. the story has developed in the united states in really interesting ways.
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once this project exposed that this kind of surveillance was happening, the u.s. government did an unexpectedly stand up and strong thing, they blacklisted the company that makes pegasus, and they banned the use of texas software in the united states. that can stop it around the world, this is still a life issue, is actually still a live issue in the united states. just last week, the supreme court let the company whatsapp go ahead and sue the company that makes pegasus. what's up gets to sue pegasus, gets to see the company that makes pegasus for using their software to break into peoples phones and spy on peoples encrypted messages on whatsapp so that the civil lawsuit is going to go ahead, that can be
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a big deal. this is a live issue, this is hotly contested territory. but it is sort of from the news guys, it's sort of serendipitous. it's a good thing the book is coming up tonight as we celebrate the federal holiday honoring dr. king today. because, what repressive governments do to target the activists in the midst, to stop civil rights movements, to stop human rights advocates and lawyers and journalists. yes, the tactics evolve as the technology evolves. but the intent and the intended effect is the same overtime. the world over. obviously, we remember doctor he now as one of the greatest moral leaders ever produced by our country. but he really did have the whole power of the state turned against him in his day. that really wasn't all that long ago. today in every state in the country, we celebrate that federal holiday honoring dr. king. but in two states, in alabama and mississippi, today is not just martin luther king day. today in alabama and mississippi, it is cain lee day. not keenly like an adverb, not like he ruled in a kingly way.
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as in martin luther king and robert really. in mississippi and alabama today, in 2023, they have added to martin luther king day another state holiday on the same day. honoring the commander of the confederate army that fought to preserve slavery. virginia used to do that too until the year 2000. arkansas used to do that too until -- they still do king lee day until 2018. even if it took them a long time together, at least arkansas and virginia did give it up and stop using the federal martin with the king civil rights holiday to also honor slavery.
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mississippi and alabama are still doing that as of this year, which is amazing. federally, the king holiday is designated by congress as a day of service, i gave that americans are called on to volunteer and do other acts of service in their community. for the seventh year this year, tomorrow, the day after the federal holiday is designated as a day for communities around the country to hold town halls, to work towards dialogue, towards binding up some of these wounds. committees around the country tomorrow will whole town halls to dialogue for the purpose of racial healing. we are going to hold one of those town halls here tonight on msnbc at 10 pm eastern. it's gonna be live from new orleans, the plans for a kind of incredible. i hope you're able to check that out tomorrow on msnbc.
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tonight on the show, we're gonna have congressman jamie raskin, constitutional law professor, remember the january six investigation of course. we're gonna talk to him about the ongoing prosecutions and criminal investigations concerning the violent attempt to overthrow our government on january 6th 2021. with republicans now in control of the house of representatives. they say they believe they have the power to oversee ongoing criminal cases at the department justice, which is actually not something they're supposed to do from congress, but they are apparently going to try. that is sending out to be a huge fight. congressman raskin is the top democrat in the oversight committee, he will join us on that in just a moment. we also talk about this breaking news out of new mexico about a republican state legislative candidate being arrested tonight after a swat team raid, albuquerque police saying that they believe that he was the perpetrator of a series of shootings into homes and offices over the past few weeks. tonight, we are gonna be joined exclusively by doctor david kessler, doctor kessler was brought on as joe biden's top science adviser on covid. when biden was running his campaign for president in 2020. you might remember the first presidential debate between biden and president trump. that debate was held in late september 2020. it is hard to remember this at the time, but in september 2020, there were no covid vaccines available yet. the first vaccines weren't administered until december 2020. but in september, when biden trump met for the first debate,
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it was david kessler as biden's covid adviser who insisted that they be that far apart. that they had to be at least 13 feet apart from each other when they were standing at the podiums at the debate. i think that david kessler insisted on that. you will recall, that debate was on tuesday. by thursday night that week, trump had tested positive for covid. friday, he was hospitalized with it and profoundly ill. despite having stood on the debate stage with him just two and a half days before, biden can get it from trump. by all accounts, trump nearly died from it. after president biden beat trump in a 2020 election, it was dave kessler who led the covid response during the transition. it was doctor kessler who went on to be the chief science officer advising president biden on covid for these first two years of his presidency. dr. kessler hopes at the goal of administering 100 million vaccine shots in present biden 's first hundred days in office. they hit that goal by march of 2021. as we stand here today, about 80% of our population has had at least one dose of the vaccine. more than 90% of people over the age of 65 have had at least one dose. the success of our vaccination efforts, the success of vaccines from preventing people from getting infected, the success of antivirals for treating people when they are
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infected, all those things together have been under, david kessler's purview. those things together have succeeded over these past few years in making covid seem like much less of an emergency than it was before. but now as the prospect arises that our country will formally end, the declared murders the over covid, as the concern about covid is on its way down on the country. as the numbers are picking up right now, still more than 500 americans are dying from covid every day right now, now this week, dr. david kessler is
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is a hospital in shanghai in china. last week, this is not and either or an inpatient where people get cared for. this is actually the lobby of a hospital in shanghai. you see, patients crowd together and surrounded by their loved ones, the family members who brought them in. this is a shot inside the park of that same hospital that is meant for actually treating people. you can see how crowded it is, say you can't even walk, there's only beds in this hospital.
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they have run out of room to put people in the rooms, so they have journeys in this hospital lined up in the hallways. outside of supply closets, have you bags pushed up against the walls of. this man is receiving treatment, just a waiting room chair, appears to be sleeping while he's sitting up. this hospital in shanghai is so overwhelmed, i'm sorry to say, there are dead bodies that are sitting unintended still inside the hospital. no one will take them. these upsetting photos were taken by a new york times photographer, they paint a scary portrait of how badly china is struggling with covid right now. they lifted their strict lockdown measures late last year and numbers there appear to just be skyrocketing. hospitals and morgues are overwhelmed, officials in china say close to 60,000 people have died of covid just in the last month alone. this is coming out of a country
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that and coarsely undercounts, not only that covid cases, but also their covid deaths. one reason china has been hit so hard right now is because lots of adults in china haven't had the full course of the original vaccines, let alone any new booster shots that would target new variance. but it is also important to note that china is in a different situation than we are when it comes to vaccines. they distributed their own vaccine, they don't distribute the very highly effective pfizer and moderna, and even johnson & johnson shots that we have here. looking at this dire situation in china right now is part of what is going on, their vaccines are just not as effective. we would never be at risk for something getting that that here again, because our vaccines have been better. china struggled covid right now, is there any way in which it is a saline warning for us here in the united states? there's a lot of very live questions about where covid is
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going for us, a lot of americans are boosted 94% of americans over the age of 64 have at least one shot. but, the vast majority of americans haven't received the latest booster, that newfangled booster that came out in december of last year, only about 60% of americans have received a bivalent booster. if americans are going to get those new booster shots, do we still as a population benefit from the baseline immunity that we all got from so many americans getting the first round of shots more than a year ago? as the virus develops and we don't get additional shots because the country is sick and tired of getting additional boosters, do we run the risk of reverting to the kind of vulnerability that essentially an unvaccinated population would have. more infections mean more chances for the virus to create new variance, does that affect the accuracy of our testing technology? does that test the effectiveness of our
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treatments. the humans have been very effective. but, right now, things like oil antivirus, things like paxlovid, those are available and very effective. antibodies have essentially become obsolete as the virus has developed. what is the status on emerging new treatments? are there fears about some of the existing antivirals that are working now, becoming obsolete in the future. as the virus evolves. how is the distribution going from the antiviral medications that we do have? as we speak, the white house is reportedly discussing ending the formal emergency declaration around covid that has been in effect since 2020. if that is going to end, if we are no longer going to be on emergency footing, sometime this spring, when the current declaration of emergency status expires, is that going to change what we can do as a country, what we can do as a government? are the things that we can't do without an emergency declaration that we could do with it. if this thing takes off like
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wildfire, if we start facing anything like they're looking at china in our new future. will we be able to bounce back nimbly and handle it? joining us now is someone who for the last several years has been an absolute center of these questions, dr. david kessler, the chief science officer from the biden administration's covid response. he will be an agile for just a little bit longer. dr. kessler has announced that he will be leaving his post at the biden administration's are. this week he joins us now to talk about it. dr. kessler, thank you so much for being here. i know you don't do a ton of interviews, it makes me all the more thankful that you choose to be here, thank you sir. >> thank you, rachel. >> talk to me about the decision to step down and the timing to do so now. is the fact that you are leaving now linked to that expected and of the emergency declaration? does it indicate that the white house is on a new footing when it comes to covid? >> no, i think the commitment is there.
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i've always believed in public service, i grew up in the generation, there was an obligation, privilege to serve. i also believe that you come in and serve. there is a time to leave. let me assure you, there is a great team place. you don't hear their names, at all. jason reese, steve charge, lisa barkley, they are there, they will stay there. i assure you, this president is fully committed. he has made sure that we have had everything we need to get us to this point, it has been a historic accomplishment what this country collectively has done, thanks to my predecessors, at operation -- never in the history of public health have we ever done what we just did. 660 million vaccines, 13 million antivirals administered, 600 billion doses donated, it is just an incredible accomplishment. where we are, the virus is not done with osha. it will still involve, i think the chances are low, not nonexistent, but low that it will reverse to the kind of mortality that we saw two years ago. to any skeptic, look at those
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pictures of china. one of the major reasons for us not looking like that is because of the vaccines we have. >> dr. kessler, you'll be remembered in history among a lot of other things that you've done in your career. the only person who served as fda commissioner for two different presidents. you are incredibly important on things like tobacco, nutrition, hiv, aids. in fighting this pandemic. you will be remembered specifically for having been responsible for keeping president biden from getting infected with covid before there were vaccines in that first debate. in september of 2020, you will be remembered for leading the task to get 100 million doses in the first hundred days. hundred million vaccine doses distributed in the first hundred days of president biden 's term, those things saved interval -- but i worry now when i look at
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the low level of uptake on those bivalent boosters. the bivalent boosters became available in the fall. very qualitatively different kind of booster. they protect us from the new kinds of variants that have developed since the initial round of vaccines came out. i worry that we are essentially leaving 85% of the population vulnerable to new variants because these people don't want to get the new boosters. >> our job, i saw our job, my job is to make sure that anyone who wanted access to a vaccine or an anti viral had that access. and it was easy to get. that was our job. we put it out there, we urge people to get it. as you said, 80% of this country, 225 million people had their primary vaccines. no doubt, those cases, northeast, middle atlantic, now it will roll through the united states as a fraction of what we saw. rachel, if you remember some of those nights that you and i talked, some of those nights were pretty scary. nothing like that is now here.
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i think we are in a different place. if you haven't had your by the end booster, get it. if you are eligible for anti viral, if you get covid, take it. we have to be working together. this virus is not done with us yet. >> dr. kessler, in terms of those treatments, we have seen monoclonal antibodies become less effective as the virus has mutated. should we have confidence that as the virus continues to evolve globally, that we will continue to have antiviral treatments that help us, that reduce the hospitalization rates and keep people from dying once they do get infected? >> we have a very effective treatment on the market, it is not perfect, no doubt in my mind we have to do everything we can to get another antiviral as soon as we can, just you have it. there is no guarantees in this business. you and i live through the
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antiviral, changing the course of hiv. yes, there is a great antiviral and paxlovid, but we need to continue to make sure that remains the case. >> doctor david kessler, stepping down as the chief science officer for the biden administration's covid response. dr. kessler, thank you so much for your service and for talking with us over these past couple of years, i look forward to staying in touch and you see what you do. i hope you get some time off, you deserve it. rates and keep people from dying once they do get infected? >> we have a very effective treatment on the market, it is not perfect, no doubt in my
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mind we have to do everything we can to get another antiviral as soon as we can, just you have it. there is no guarantees in this business. you and i live through the antiviral, changing the course of hiv. yes, there is a great antiviral and paxlovid, but we need to continue to make sure that remains the case. >> doctor david kessler, stepping down as the chief science officer for the biden administration's covid response. dr. kessler, thank you so much for your service and for talking with us over these past couple of years, i look forward to staying in touch and you see what you do. i hope you get some time off, you deserve it. >> thank you very much. >> much more ahead for tonight, stay with us.
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news out of new mexico where police have just announced this evening, they've made an arrest, in connection with their investigation of shootings, into the homes and offices of half a dozen democratic party officials, in the albuquerque new mexico area. the man arrested tonight was the republican nominee for legislative seat from albuquerque, in the november elections. he lost that race for the state legislature, but has since insisted publicly that he didn't lose, and the election was rigged against him. albuquerque police saying tonight that he is, quote,
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accused of conspiring with and paying for other men to shoot at the homes of at least four democratic elected officials. joining us now is jamie raskin of maryland, he's a former member of the january six investigation, he's now the top democrat on oversight committee in the house, thanks so much for being with us. thank you rachel, it's great to be with you to. >> i know that you're learning about this new mexico arrest just as we are tonight, this is breaking news we've been covering. i have to ask if these allegations are proven out. this, again, it is a republican candidate for office who's an election denier, who's an outspoken trump supporter. he said on social media, trump just announced for 2024 i stand with him i never conceded my race now i'm researching my options. if these allegations are borne out, is this the kind of radical -- then your colleagues were so worried about? >> yes, we were warned of this dangerous extremism that is now been embraced as part of the political system. we know that donald trump used dangerous extremists for his own purposes, i'm january 6th, but they've used him as well, and have been brought into the political system. now we're ending up with people
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like george santos, or lauren boebert, or salomon pena in new mexico, on as actual republican nominees for congress. it's an extraordinary thing. so, if you have a policy of no enemies on the rights, you are going to get people entering into public office, and entering into political campaigns who behave in such ways. >> when you say no enemies on the right, do you mean that's the internal dynamic then republican circles as it pertains to extremism? >> that was donald trump's attitude, essentially if you are willing to support trump, and then make any difference if you were a holocaust revisionist, if you are marching in charlottesville, if you are a liar, and she, a swindler, what have you. and when kevin mccarthy decided to embrace trumpism, he'd by definition embrace that credo, as well. and the chickens are coming home to roost, with people like george santos, and lauren boebert, and this guy in new
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mexico. political party has got to be big, in the big ten, but it really can't stand for dangerous extremists, and criminals, and other elements that like that that would use lautaro politics for own services, whether there are financial or ideological, political in an extremist sense. >> and we're having this conversation, in the context of yet another sedition's experience the trial, been underway in washington, we had seditious conspiracy -- already for members of the oath keepers, the proud boys seditious conspiracy trial is underway, and will resume tomorrow after today's federal holiday. i wonder if you think that the republican takeover of the house, on to describe at the doj an fbi have been doing, it's somehow weaponizing the federal government for political purposes. do you think if that has the possibility of interfering with january 6th investigations, and indeed these ongoing prosecutions. >> well, that's one of the central purposes of it. you have a lot of people who were involved in different levels, in the january 6th attempted political coup and
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against the vice president, against congress, and the insurrection which stormed the capitol. a lot of those people are involved which is why we're calling the new committee the select committee -- because a lot of these people are in it to try to make sure that they don't get investigated and they don't get prosecuted. but it is that larger principle it's not just about january 6th, it's in, general about make sure there's no neutral and objective law enforcement. for any crimes they may have committed so the rule of law and america. traditionally, the political parties have taken the position of the law enforcement function is independent, the politicians will not try to micromanage. or interfere or obstruct what's taking place within law enforcement. the whole purpose of this committee is to obstruct the fbi, or don't from today called the figure of investigation. it's an attack on law enforcement, and lots of my republican colleagues are calling for defunding the fbi. the that federal prosecutors and investigators. -- >> jamie raskin, the top democrat sir thank you very much for your time tonight, it's good to see you. >> great to see you, rachel.
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>> we'll be right back, stay with us. parties have taken the position of the law enforcement function is independent, the politicians will not try to micromanage. or interfere or obstruct what's taking place within law enforcement. the whole purpose of this committee is to obstruct the fbi, or don't from today called the figure of investigation. it's an attack on law enforcement, and lots of my republican colleagues are calling for defunding the fbi. the that federal prosecutors and investigators. --
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breaking news story out of new mexico, over the course of this hour tonight. now, a new development, as police sources tell us there is a second swat rate being carried out tonight, at a second location in new mexico. we are awaiting details about that, but here's what we know. police today, in the first swat raid, arrested a republican candidate for state legislature in new mexico, solomon pena, who's the republican anna me for state house-y last november, he lost to the incumbent democrat, but then he refused to acknowledge the election results, he said it was rigged. who's arrested today, again, in a swath raid. he was arrested in connection with a string of four shootings, into the homes and offices of democratic politicians, including one case in which three bullets were fired into
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the bedroom, of the ten -year-old daughter of one democratic state rep. the girl wasn't asleep in her bedroom, when the three shots were fired into binge room on january 3rd. tonight, we received new statements from one of the democratic politicians, whose head shots fired into his homes in recent weeks. is the incoming new mexico house of representatives speaker. his aim is javier martinez, he tells us tonight, i deeply appreciate our albuquerque police department, for the hard work throughout the shooting, targeting elected officials, i'm grateful the suspect is in custody. i trust our justice system will hold us responsible and accountable, we've seen far too much political violence lately, and all these events are powerful reminders, that's stirring up, here heightening tensions, and stoking hatred can have devastating consequences. but, again after the initial swat raid resulted in the rest of this republican caught politician today, in connection with these shootings, police forces tell is now that a
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