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headquarters in new york city. a failed candidate turned suspected gunman arrested in albuquerque, new mexico. and we just learned he will make his first appearance in court tomorrow afternoon. police say that when lawmakers wouldn't listen to his claims about election fraud, he put a plan in place to target their homes. >> epd essentially discovered what we had all feared. and what he suspected, these shootings were politically motivated. >> the latest details on the charges and how these attacks could serve as a warning for the rest of the country. plus a new call for doj and the sev so act now. and freeze george santos' campaign funds so they can be returned to donors. that call kooming from another republican in his own state. and california as a cautionary tale for the country after unrelenting wild weather from coast to coast. the damage done by rain, snow, mud slides and why with all the precipitation in california does
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that state still have such a serious drought. we start with political frustrations leading to violence. police have now arrested and charged a man they say master minded a string of shootings targeting democratic lawmakers after they refused to entertain his rigged election conspiracy theoies. in fact, he lost his local house race overwhelmingly, 74% to 26%. but he still claimed he won. he posted this picture of himself in a make america great again sweatshirt saying, quote, he never conceded. the tried to get local officials to buy into his evidence of fraud. then in december, a string of shootings began targeting some of the same officials. the attacks are simultaneously terrifying and predictable. amid the rising tide of
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partisanship, we're seeing it more and more. here's the mayor of albuquerque. >> the shootings were orchestrated, they were dangerous attacks not only to these individuals, which is personally the most terrifying for them, but also to democracy. that is why this is so terrible. this type of radicalism is a threat to our nation and it has made its way to our doorstep right here in albuquerque, new mexico. >> i want to bring in senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. tim miller is an msnbc political analyst. carol lam is a legal analyst. so garrett, susan collins said she wouldn't be surprised if a senator or house member were killed. now these were local officials, but some of those bullets allegedly, among other places, hid inside the bedroom of a 10-year-old while she was
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sleeping. what more can you tell us about this? >> reporter: authorities in new mexico just released the arrest warrant here for sol man. while a warrant contains only am sagss about this point, they are chilling. it's clear it was only a combination of bad aim and good luck that kept this from being a homicide case. the incident you're referring to is one of the victims here said she woke up in the middle of the night. her 10-year-old daughter had come into the room and felt like a spider or something was crawling on her face. she said it felt like sand in her bed. she wanted to sleep with her mother. the next morning the mother went into the room and found bullet holes through the child's room that sandy feeling was sawdust from the walls of the home in her daughter's bed. this was one of the victims of a conspiracy led by pene to drive around and shoot up the homes of other democratic law makes i in
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the area to who he already complained about his view that his election was stolen. shooting an an up aed dwelling. the list goes on and on. just hearing really frankly how lucky these victims were that somebody didn't end upshot or killed at these men driving around spraying these houses with gunfire. >> the police did call this a conspiracy because they believe it involves multiple people, who may or may not have known who they were shooting at. i haven't seen what garth ret has. they also said, clearly, pena fired one of the guns. take a listen. >> on the last shooting, we have evidence that pena went on the shooting ask pulled trigger on one ofrt firearms used. >> so as pointed out, we know
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pena has been charged with conspiracy, attempteding a gaited battery. what will the prosecution need to prue this this case? >> if everything that has been set out in the arrest warrant turns out to be provable, it's not going to be difficult to convict pena and coconspirators. whether you pull the trigger or enlist others, your legal liability is the same. these are state charges. and they are limited to the facts of these violent acts. so it's a felon in possession of a firearm, shooting at a dwelling, aggravated assault. these are the kinds of charges that you would expect. and frankly, with this kind of evidence, i don't think it's going to be very difficult to prove. with a conspiracy charges that are included here, i think the likelihood that the authorities are going to pitch the
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coconspirators to testify against mr. pena in exchange for a more lenient sentence, and i think getting a conviction is not dwoing to be very difficult. the fact that he pulled the trigger in at least one of the instances, i think, is probably going to enhance his sentence even further. >> we know that political violence, political anger can turn to threats, can turn to violence we saw most egregiously on january 6th. we saw it with paul pelosi. we saw it with the georgia election worker and somebody shows up at the door of her mom and testified at the january 6th committee. you know so many of those folks. do you worry that house member, senate member, somebody who works on capitol hill could be a target? >> they have legitimate worries.
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anthony gonzales that stands out in ohio was one of the republicans that voted to um peach trump. that's not a place you want to be in this country. going into the midterms, a lot of us breathed a sigh of relief that there wasn't that kind of volence that we worried was going to happen. particularly in arizona, i was covering that race. as that went into recount, there was a lot of concern among elected official there is that we could see an incident like in new mexico that didn't come to pass. so what that tells you is this this new mexico situation is just the latest in what a lot of folks were worrying about was going to be an outgrowth of this continued radicalization, continued push of conspiracy theories and really a continued demonization of political
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opponents. it shouldn't be that surprising when you're dealing with politics that some of the people, even if it's just one or two, are going to treat it as if it's ab apock lickic matter. >> i can certainly understand how if were somebody in a position as these folks were in albuquerque that it ups the nervousness for people outside of albuquerque. it doesn't seem, though, to up the condemnation of the rhetoric or dial back the rhetoric. am i missing something here? >> reporter: what we tend to see is a pattern around these incidents in which after a shooting, particularly a partisan shooting, there's a moment where everybody comes out and condemns the rhetoric and they condemn it with language that says like we condemn hateful and inciting rhetoric on
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both sides. you tend to hear that kind of language after a shooting when it involves particularly a member of congress or violence against a member of congress. but this is an increasing challenge and has been for years. since i have been covering congress, the new chief of the capitol police talks about how he's trying to pivot this agency to be a protection agency for members that operate mrs. like the secret service and less like a local police department because that's the specific nature of the challenge they are facing and the rhetoric isn't being turned down. so the security has to continue to be turned up. and for all those folks, it adds a level of distance between you and your elected official because that's how they are forced to operate to do their jobs and go home safely to their families. it's very hard or become very hard to imagine how the temperature gets turned back down on this kind of across the
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board nationally. >> you want to think the law has your back, but when you look at this case, and if we want to talk about ways attacks can be prevented, pena's opponent tried to get him thrown off the ballot because he was convicted of theft. but a judge ruled that the law that bars felons from holding office there was unconstitutional. so pena stayed on the ballot. hindsight is 2020. what's your take on that decision? >> i don't think we should condemn the judge in this instance or condemn the outcome this that case. what happened was that in 2019, the new mexico legislature amended the constitution and it became unclear whether somebody could run for office with a felony record. it was a constitutional issue. the judge ruled the way the way it should come out. there hasn't been enough time
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for the supreme court to hear that issue. it was a legitimate issue. the judge made a ruling in good faith, but this does point out that you have to look the at the way society is changing. you have to look at the uptick in social media and the speed at which rhetoric can be replicated. i think that what we have to do is or what legislatures have to do is take a look at whether our laws and other laws are keeping up with society and the changes in communication and the output that people are able to get people have to recognize that there are different segments of society that hear things differently and now it's happening with a great speed. so our laws need to try to stay a pace of that. >> thank you all so much. let's turn to ukraine. this is now turning into one of the most influential and
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star-studded economic gatherings. asking movers have shakers to use your influence to help this war-torn country. the first lady pled on this opening day in switzerland that maybe a preview of what we'll hear from her husband later this week. speaking to a crowd well aware that the war has killed thousands of civilians and displaced millions, but also disrupted food ask fuel markets worldwide. moments ago ukraine called off the search for survivors after the deadly weekend strike killed an estimated 45 people, 39 were rescued including 6 children. keir simmons is in switzerland. realistically, what do we think ukraine can get out of multiple leaders speaking there? the mayor of kyiv is either there or going there as well. what's their hope? >> reporter: to put pressure on world leaders is frankly their hope. first lady talking today about
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and very movingly about putting her children to bed and giving them cuddles and the at the same time, saying in this speech to the gathered leaders of businesses and governments from around the world saying you have one thing in common. you are all influential, but something divides you. some of you are using that influence to help ukraine and others are not. and that's a powerful message, because remember there are varied groups, there's a chinese delegation. and china has been seen to be close to close to president pooud putin. are they using the influence to try to solve the challenges of the ukraine conflict. or not doing enough. so i think that's the messaging. and at the same time, it is
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clear there are real divisions. let me give you one example. the asession to nato. that hasn't been ratified. it hasn't been ratified by turkey. you are seeing splits in what is mostly a unified approach. by the west. it is a diplomatic visit. there are lots of people who can have real influence. in a year 2023 where i haven't met anyone here who doesn't think that there isn't going to be continuing conflict in ukraine. and there's no sign of negotiation. >> keir simmons, thank you for that. because of the war, tlags
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from russia and belarus are now banned at the australian open. the announcement comes after fans displayed a russian flag at a first round hatch. while players from russia and belarus can compete, but not as representatives of their country. thus no flags. a new call today by a republican colleague to freeze the campaign accounts of george santos. the scorching statement he released to justify it. the controversy missouri as lawmakers try to tell women what they can and can't wear. and the white house now pointedly going after republicans who continue the attacks in the classified documents controversy. does this signal a shift in strategy for team biden? you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc.
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escalating george santos controversy. congressman nick lalota blast. to the extent there's any real money in the campaign account of george santos, the funds shob immediately frozen by the united states department of justice or federal election commission. let's bring in ali vitali on capitol hill. tim miller, former communications director for jeb bush. so from a fellow republican in a neighboring new york district, quote, congressman santos fraudulently slitted these funds and shouldn't be allowed to drain his account while shorts investigate these contributions. this freshman congressman seems to have no qualms about bucking what has largely been a trend in
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republican leadership, which is let's wait and see if there's anything illegal here. >> the home state dynamics have been die different than what we're seeing from leadership. that extends to the fresh mendel gags from new york. every single freshman member elected in the same cycle as george santos said he shouldn't be in congress anymore. the fact that lalot a is issuing this statement marks an escalation in saying those funds should be frozen. but also not surprising in that he's in good company with the rest of the freshmen from the state of new york. but you're right, it's a big difference between the way that we're hearing new york lawmakers talk about this and the way we're hearing republican lawmakers talk about this. on the one hand republicans are saying the ethics committee is investigating this. we know that that's a slow process that happens behind closed doors. we probablien wouldn't hear about that until they are ready to make recommendations. but moving forward, we're seeing that speaker mccarthy just
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yesterday said he did have some questions about santos' resume, which we now know was almost entirely fabricated. and it does lead to questions about what republicans on the campaign side knew about santos and what they knew at the point he was elected and then sworn in. but make no mistake about it. here in congress for republican leadership, the santos game is really a numbers game. they are not pushing him to resign because their majority is so thin. pushing him out means an open seat. it means a special election where on the ground we see how antisantos many of those voters feel. it puts democrats in a better position and they don't want to change the slim numbers they have here. >> so let me play the sound that ali just referenced when he was asked how he was personally of the santos allegations. >> never know about his resume, but i had a few questions.
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>> what about pretending to be your chief of staff? >> i didn't know about that. it happened, and i know they corrected it, but i wasn't notified a about that until a later date. >> did you speak to him about it at all? >> i didn't know about it until a later date. >> he always had questions a about santos. but he didn't do or hasn't done anything about it. what do you make of the fact that a freshman republican is more up front on this controversy than the speaker of the house? is it simply a numbers game? >> think it is. it's also a matter of incentives. and a little bit of integrity. on the sentive side, these new york congressmen, they are coming in out of districts that joe biden won. it was a rare state where republicans did well in the midterms. so i think they are looking around saying if i want to survive in congress, i need to separate my brand from this liar. that people are going to
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conflate me with. so i think that's where you see republicans this new york trying to get at distance saying don't lump me in with him because he made up his resume and pretended to be a volleyball star in college. the list goes on and on. mccarthy, on the other hand, it's a numbers game. but i think one of the interesting anecdotes that has come out is his superpac fund knew during the campaign and the executive director was warning republicans about the extent of his lies. so i think kevin is underplaying how much he really knew. if his superpac was putting the word out, that's not something they would have alerted the speaker's office to. so i think really what it comes down to, he's made the determination that he would deal with this guy and all his lies and his brand problems associated with that as long as he can get an extra seat to pad
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the majority. >> ali vitali, thank you. let's take a turn from the house along with tim to state house controveries. let's start in missouri where republican-led house is revising the dress code, but only for female members of the chamber. requiring them to wear a jacket, a cardigan or blazer. the topic got heated between one democrat and the republican who proposed the rules change on the house floor. >> you know what it feels like to have a bunch of men in this room looking at your top trying to decide whether it's appropriate or thot? this is ridiculous. >> lady, you're right. it is ri.com dick louse. >> so why are you doing it? >> you brugt this to the familiar. >> you would think that blaup all you'd have to do is dress professionally. and women could handle it. you would think elected officials can handle that. >> and then you have the wyoming
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state legislature. lawmakers are pushing forward a measure to ban the sale of electric cars and protect gas and oil interests. that's the reasoning they are giving. let's go back to tim. so the missouri measure passed. the wyoming one didn't. the lawmaker who introduced it told "the washington post" he didn't actually want to ban electric cars, but he was responding to california's future ban on vehicles powered only by gas. do these kinds of things help them individually or as a party? or does it just add to the public perception that politics is just so broken because it's so divided? >> these are red states. missouri and wyoming, trump won handedly. so in the missouri case, for example, i think they are playing to a cultural conservative part of missouri. i don't know if my pearls would be okay on the house of the missouri floor, but that helped them in the kansas city suburbs.
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and look at where democrats did surpriingly well. it was in these suburbs of these midwestern places. drat democrats did better in kansas. so i do think when you get to telling women what to wear, that's not playing well in the suburbs. that's why i think republicans did poorly in some places where they expected to do better. the wyoming case, this is about the trolling. there was the gas stove initiative that they are outraged about. so this wasn't a serious proposal. he's not trying to ban these cars, he's trying to make a point to get into conservative media and get the tweets. this is something that the incentives are misaligned. if you're a state legislature, you put this out and get a lot of positive attention and that's good for you. but it is bad for the party's brand at large. and i think it's something that
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right now we're going to continue to see going forward as a lot of these legislatures and red states try to one up each other with their own various bans and proposals. >> thank you for stick around. good to see you. flood waters in california so high it's tougher even mac trucks to drive there through. is there a way to use all that water to help with the devastating drought. a state representative joins me with his plan, next. n, next. >> within a matter of minutes, it just started flooding. >> this used to be a 50-year flood zone. now it's three to five years. flood zone now it's three to five years you had to give your right arm to find great talent. but with upwork, there's highly skilled talent from all over the globe right at your fingertips. it's where businesses meet great remote talent and remote talent meets great opportunity. ♪♪ ♪ this is how we work now ♪
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california turning neighborhoods into what looked like lakes. and now growing fears over life-threatening mud slides. already more than 400 reported in just the last three weeks wiping out homes like this one yesterday. >> i don't really know what we're going to do. we'll figure it out. >> i want to bring in the state assemblyman. thank you for being with us. the president on his trip is one of a series that he's had to do to assess damage after frankly mind bending weather events. governor newsom called this the new normal of extremes. so let me start by asking you what your district is going to have to be rebuilding from and do you think california and the country is ready for this new
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normal? >> thank you for having me on. here in california, unfortunately, we have third world infrastructure. we're seeing it today. we have all this water, but what are we doing with it. you can call it climate change or whatever you want, a lot of people call it a failure of government. with see the floods and the snow and we are a state that is currently in a drought emergency and some places in the state have a 30-gallon a day drinking requirement but with this recent storm, we have had 22 trillion glons lost out to the ocean. so the infrastructure needs to get better. it needs to capture the water and convey it, store it, recharge the ground water and do all of these different things. >> you want to get to the specifics of that. i don't think it's something a lot of people think about. the question i have heard a lot
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over the last couple days is the contradiction. so much flooding right now, but there's still a three-year drought. i know you have a sign outside your office that says more water storage now. there's the sign. tell us what you think needs to and more importantly can get done is all of this meaning that talk, talk, talk we have heard for such a long time we need to do something might turn into action. i know your bill has actually something we don't hear a lot about, bipartisan support. >> the goal of my bill is there's these water goals. we have known we need to build more water storage. the governor said, hey, i want to hit 3.7 million feet by 2030. we have done this with climate change goals.
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you just heard on your broadcast about electric engines. what i did was copy and pasted the language from those bills and put in not the climate goals, but the water goals. so if the governor wants to do this and says he wants to do this. what this bill does is codiies that into state law to hold his feet to the fire. which is what needs to happen. because like you said, talk is cheap. people in california, 40 million of us deserve action. >> but i want to ask you ultimately, wouldn't this be up to the legislature, not the governor per se? do you feel like you have the support now given everything that we're seeing of what's happening across the state and not just in the central valley? >> it's nice that the governor said this is the goal so it's more bipartisan. i have a record of working bipartisanly. so i already have two democrat co-authors sign up to this. and i'll keep asking my cleelg
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colleagues and having the conversation. i'm also the chairman of the committee, which will probably be one of the first stops this bill sees. >> they say when california sees this, the country gets a cold so i'm not doubting a lot of states are looking at what you guys are doing. thank you for taking the time. california state assembly devin mathis, we appreciate it. >> thank you. we're just hours away from a school board meeting in a virginia district where a 6-year-old shot a teacher. the questions being asked by parents and could it lead to elementary schools around the country stepping up security. we have just the guest to answer that question.
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we have a mother up at the hospital now that just lost her 11-year-old daughter. and you're going to have school full of children tomorrow without their classmate because she walked a block down the street for some milk for her family. >> police say a 19-year-old man who was also shot was likely the target of that drive by. he is expected to survive. that little girl did not. so far, there are no suspects. just a gut few hours from now, parents will demandenses from a school board on how a 6-year-old was able to shoot his teacher after his backpack was zerng searched. this is getting a lot of attention. a shocking video, this is a 4-year-old in a do i want weaving a real gun around an apartment building. it did lead to an arrest of the child's father. what can be done to protect our kids when guns are getting into the hands of 4 and 6-year-olds?
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matt carrty is a member of the school resource officers that train law enforcement who work in schools. thank you for being with us. after that 6-year-old was able to shoot his teacher despite his backpack being searched, one school board plans to install metal detectors in all school buildings. are there now discussions around the idea of protecting children from other armed children? are we going to start seeing metal detectors in electric ri schools? >> it's shameful it's come to this. school is a place of learning. not only to learn cognitively but the social learning. we don't want them to become prison like. if you put metal detectors in, there's still a lot of questions to be answered. who is going to monitor these. if it's detected, who is going to do the search properly? somebody that nose northeasts
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how to handle a weapon. so we have been to the airport. thank goodness we have that security. it does cause a lot of problems. they need to be made before metal detectors are installed. there's a lot of planning. who is on your school safety team. we hope that there's a school rous resource officer who is properly selected and trained to work inside that school environment. >> as if a 6-year-old wasn't troubling enough, now we have a 4-year-old weaving a loaded handgun around the apartment. had had in that state again guns don't have to be registered. when kids have access to weapons, how much of this falls on you, school administrators, but also trained members of law enforcement for a very serious problem that some people might
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argue starts in the home. is that part of what needs to be addressed? talk to me about that. >> that's exactly what i was going to say. a lot of these problems start in the home. parents parenting their children, teachers and administrators educating the children, having students bringing guns to school, it starts at home. are the guns being properly maintained or stored properly. out of the reach of children i had weapons inside my home that were tools of my trade. i this h to to think about keeping these weapons locked where my kids could not get to them. and i used them every day. that training came along with my training to be a law enforcement officer. having metal detectors in schools, resource officers in schools, it's a trend that is happening. there's not a lot of law enforcement that goes into
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working in elementary school for a school resource officer. but there's some important role thas play in building relationships being a part of that safety team. so if something is determined to be maybe a hazard inside the school, they are there to help conduct that search properly and hopefully make sure the school building is safe at all times. >> really scary time when is you see the video of both of those kids. thank you so much. the biden team hitting back against critics on the classified documents front. does their a attack signal a shift in strategy? k gnal a shift in strategy? eczema. it doesn't care if you have a date, a day off, or a double shift. make your move and get out in front of eczema with steroid-free cibinqo. not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments. and it's proven to help provide clearer skin and relieve itch fast. cibinqo continuously treats eczema whether you're flaring or not.
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that they had this call signal a little shift in strategy by the white house? >> it is notable and we always welcome as reporters the chance to have this kind of a call with officials. it's a standard sort of practice in washington where a government official is on a, in this case, a zoom call, where lots of reporters have access. the government official in this case, ian sams, who was on the record, he represents the white house counsel's office. he's the spokesperson for the white house. is taking questions and providing information to reporters. so a number of reporters were able to ask questions, but in terms of getting new information, that was more limited. what this official was able to do was to say that the president and the white house is fully cooperating with the department of justice on this department's matter and that they recognize there is tension between being more transparent for the many questions that reporters have about the timeline.
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why wasn't more of this made known to the public even as behind the scenes, aides and allies of the president alerted officials when the documents were discovered then subsequently turn those over through the official channels. making it a very different case than what we have seen with former president trump and how that situation with classified material is different. acknowledging this tension between the desire for more transparency, but saying they don't want to give out too much information while the investigation itself is ongoing and indifference to the investigation. so there's some difficulty there in certainly the public space. among the questions that was asked, could they be more specific about the number of documents. many reporters have been using different information here. how many pages is it. how many discreet documents might be involved. is there information so that we can all be accurate in how we describe this? and they said they could not do that in part because they swiftly turned the material over
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to authorities suggesting that they no longer have possession of it and implying they don't have a full inventory of that material. so that raises questions. because simply the number of pages would not reveal things like the contents of classified information. so for all of us trying to describe this, it would be helpful to know what we're talking about in terms of pages or documents that kind of thing. and as you pointed out, chris, they're also swinging on offense against republicans in the house about how they have not been transparent about deals speaker mccarthy made about getting the gavel. >> thank you for that. on this national day of racial healing, the country is asked to look inward at our history of injustice and equity issues that plagued america since its founding. living with these conditions is a neighborhood in new orleans which was intentionally ripped apart by an interstate project
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in the 1960s. i want this bring in tremayne lee who is in new orleans ahead of a town hall on racial healing. what does racial healing mean to people there? how can this discussion we're going to hear tonight inform discussions in and by communities moving forward? >> racial healing as a statement in a concept can be nebulous. what is that? here in new orleans talking to folks, when you talk about this idea of racial healing, they want their past experiences, their lived experiences, recognized and acknowledged and also some of their deep hurts and those wounds to be healed. some remedy about what's been wrong in this community. one of those things was the interstate tearing down claiborne avenue right through the heart of a historic black community that gave us jazz, the indians. gave you everything that most folks love about new orleans, but they're grappling here with what to do with that monster. monstrosity of i-10.
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that is central to healing for they will. let's take a listen. >> america and new orleans in particular has a habit of just ignoring african american community. they do what we say. and we need to turn the page on that. >> turning the page on a very ugly history and also a present. conversations like this, a lot of folks are tired of talking. when folks come together in good faith trying to acknowledge and heal the wounds of american racism, hopefully that might get us a step forward and that's what we're doing here tonight. >> thank you. and you can watch national day of racial healing, an msnbc town hall, tonight live from new orleans beginning at 7:00 p.m. on telemundo, 10:00 p.m. on
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