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and now a lot more people can. so let's go. the digital age is waiting. new reporting as we come on the wear from washington, a key court appearance, a new white house statement, and more questions for the administration. let's start with what is happening right now this hour. the new mexico suspect solomon pena getting ready to go before a judge, just about 30 minutes from now. arrested on conspiracy charges. among others. for the shooting attacks, the ring leader, police say allegedly targeting democratic officials, in albuquerque. our team is live on the ground with new reporting and what to expect. also this hour, president biden's first reaction to the deadly helicopter crash in ukraine. the interior minister and more than a dozen others killed. we have a live report from kyiv and the pentagon with more on just what happened.

plus, any minute, the white house getting ready for you name it, inevitably nor questions on how president biden handled classified documents, as we learn more about which republicans on congress will be on the front line of the house investigations. i'm hallie jackson in washington. good to be with you this afternoon. i want to welcome vaughn hillyard posted up in new mexico for us and msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. >> so vaughn, in 30 minutes, we expect to see solomon men pena, this losing gop candidate who police say is the master behind of the plot 20 go after the democratic officials, in court your for the first time. walk us through what you expect and i know you have been able to speak with one of the fishes targeted. >> the hearing is about to begin 30 minutes from now in albuquerque and this to note this is a virtual hearing between the courthouse and the jail about 20 miles where we're standing right now, where solomon pena is being held here

at this time. we should have a better understanding whether he intends to plead guilty, not guilty, whether bail will be set, one of our colleagues on our digital nbc news.com team spoke with some neighbors who are hoping that bail is not provided here, as an opportunity, saying is dangerous. and when you look at the 15 counts that prosecuted laid out and filed against solomon pena, it is understandable. looking at counts including felony, in possession of a firearm, shooting at an occupied dwelling, shooting from a motor vehicle. attempted aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, conspiracy, criminal solicitation. this is already a convicted felon who previously served seven years in jail. and now, when you go and listen to the lawmakers and several of whom you have talked to as well, i just got back from being down the road at debbie o'malley, who is one of the county commissioners, who was visited at her driveway, by solomon pena in the days after his election defeat in november, i just want you to listen to a little bit of

his conversation. >> when did it get into your head that it might have been solomon pena behind this? >> early on when he visited my house -- >> he visited your house -- >> yes, a month ago, before the shooting. there was something about him. he seemedage tated. sort of well unreasonable. he said, he told me himself that the election was rigged and he said that there was, you know, fraud. >> reporter: and halle, when you look at the bullet holes at debbie o'malley's house, it is evident the sort of damage that could have been inflicted. nobody he ended up being physically harmed you about the intentions were quite clear, at least according to prosecutors. we will be watching that hearing about 25 minutes from now, we won't be able to play it out live, but we will have conversation later this hour if we do get any development, halle. >> i know you're standing by. can you just walk us through, because i want to set up this

conversation with danny in a second, some of the evidence, because the police gathered a good pit of it based on the arrest documents that have come out over the last 24 hours and spoken with the individuals i have spoken with, you have spoken with, walk us through that. >> i mean it is hard not to call this a ragtag team of conspirators here. there was a search warrant that was executed of the phones of one of the individuals that was allegedly hired for cash by solomon pena. and on that phone were text message exchanges between not only him and solomon pena but another one of the individuals who is a part of the scheme in which they exchanged the specific addresses of these lawmakers. there were also photographic images of solomon pena with this particular individual as well as this individual holding up multiple firearms. there were shell casings that were inside of a car that was registered to solomon pena. those shell casings matched the

firearms that were believed to have been used in the multiple shooting incidents here. and so over the course of the two-month investigation, you saw the prosecutors just lay out quite damning evidence against him, to the point of a s.w.a.t. team executing this arrest warrant here earlier this week, and now this investigation is ongoing. the attorney general here, in the state of new mexico, there was a shooting potentially at his office that has not been directly linked to these four other incidents here, so this is an ongoing investigation. but one that clearly prosecutors felt good about in order to get to the point of executing this arrest. >> vaughn hillyard, as you mentioned you will keep an update on the court appearance and come back when you know more. danny, let me go to you. police have made clear that they believe pena's intention was to seriously injure or to kill somebody here. they say that, serious injury or

death seemed to have been the goal. they talk about how a confidential witness said to them that pena instructed these people he paid to go shoot up these homes to aim lower, to go earlier in the evening, to increase the likelihood that people would be standing up and walking around in their homes and not lying down in bed. that's the backdrop. talk about the expectations for what we might see today and where the investigation goes. >> so far, this looks like the prosecution's case to lose. it seems like there is a lot of evidence against this defendant. now, keep in mind, we've only really heard the prosecution side of it. only later on do we get the defense's theory of the case. and exonerating evidence, if any. but so far, this looks like a strong case for prosecutors. and it may even get stronger. here's why. they may end up corroborating some of these alleged co-conspirators and once that is done, together with this other evidence, and possibly co-conspirator, cooperator, coming in, getting on the stand,

and pointing at this defendant, then the case becomes almost insurmount able for the defense. together with that evidence. and with conspiracy law, keep in mind, you don't have to prove that a particular defendant pulled the trigger of a gun, it is enough to show that he was involved in some unholy agreement and he took some step in furtherance of that agreement is there any possibility that there may be federal charges filed here if in fact what prosecutors allege is true and this mate have been a politically motivated crime? >> yes, it is possible but most of the federal laws that deal with intimidation of voters or legislators or government employees are dealing with the federal government and federal elections. and there are federal laws that deal more broadly with transmission of threats over state lines, so yes, it's theoretically policy but most of the election laws that you are thinking of that criminalize intimidation during elections, it wouldn't apply, because they have to have a federal

connection. in other words, a federal election, a federal official, or a voter in a federal election. >> let's pull back here, right, because this is happening in a moment of growing concern over politically motivated violence. you look at new numbers just out from capitol police about threats to members of congress. they are down from where they were last year, the previous year, about 7500, but still up 90%, right, nearly double from 2017, i spoke with one of the legislators, one of the new mexico officials who was targeted, currently now the state speaker of that state legislature, hunter martinez. i want to play what he told me. >> it is truly disturbing. it is a reminder to all of us, especially those of us in elected office, it is our duty to lower that temperature. it is our duty to get ba back to the principles that this country was founded on. concepts of democracy. foundational concepts about liberty, and respect for each other. >> as he lays out what lawmakers have a duty to lower the temperature as he says, does law enforcement have the tools, in

your view, to go after the people who are making these kinds of threats and acting on this stuff? >> they do. and they are especially aided by the fact that in modern times a lot of these criminal defendant, and look, folks don't get into crime because they're brilliant criminals, they get into crime and a lot of them do some dumb things, including transmitting these threats, or talking about them, on social media, by text message, sometimes even by email. so these are people who made a lot of bad decisions and law enforcement loves. it law enforcement loves social media. they love messaging apps. they love text messages. because even if you deleted it on one end, once they get a cooperating evidence and if that witness has saved the text messages, they're as good as gold to be introduced against that defendant. so all in all, it is only getting easier to monitor and ultimately arrest and convict those who would transmit threats, to legislators, straight and federal alike. >> danny cevallos, thank you

very much for that analysis. appreciate it. turning now to the news from overseas, the ukrainian interior minister, killed in a helicopter crash, just outside kyiv this morning, one of 14 people dead in the crash, including a child. we're hearing now from president biden and the first lady offering condolences for the minister in a statement this afternoon, as the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy says the pain is unbearable when he learned of the lives lost. here is what we know as we come on the air. officials say the helicopter crashed near a kindergarten filled with people inside. we're now hearing at least 25 people, including 11 kids are being treated at nearby hospitals. we still don't know what the injuries look like. nbc's raf sanchez is live for us in kyiv. we have court ny kube live at the pentagon. raf, i'll start with you with what we're hearing from where you are. >> yes, hallie, you mentioned that one child killed, there were 11 others injured, the reason so many kids caught up in this, that helicopter went down, at 8:20 a.m., it slammed into that kidder garn, and that is just as parents were dropping

their kids off at school for what should have been a normal day in this very normal suburb of kyiv. now, president zelenskyy has said it is the top priority of the ukrainian government to get to the bottom of what happened here. he has given that task to the state security agency of ukraine. and they say, hallie, they are not ruling out anything at this point. they're looking into the possibility this could have been pilot error, there was heavy fog blanketing kyiv, you can see on the screen there, this morning, they're looking to whether this could have been some kind of technical malfunction on board that government helicopter. but hallie, they're also saying, they are looking into whether this could have been a deliberate act, to bring down the helicopter, carrying the interior minister of ukraine, the deputy and a number of other senior officials. and to tell you at this point, there is no indication this helicopter was shot down by russian forces. we haven't seen any russian fighter jets over the city today, we haven't seen any

russian missile activity but that does not rule out the possibility there was some kind of sabotage here and president zelenskyy hopes the state security agency is going to get to the bottom of that. he is leading his nation in mourning right now, hallie, but he also has a big hole at the top of his war-time government, the interior minister, kind of the equivalent of the secretary of homeland security, charged with police, and charged with the emergency services in this country. so a very, very senior official, hallie. >> that's for sure. raf sanchez live for us in ukraine, thank you. courtney, let me go to you, as we alluded to, we heard from president zelenskyy, speak can at the world economic forum after the crash today. talk to us about what you're hearing? >> he spoke in drafbs today and addressed the forum. at the beginning, he asked specifically for a moment of eye lens for the occurrence -- a moment of silence for the occurrence of the helicopter. and he had poignant words about this and the continued help that

ukraine needs and tragedy is outpacing life and urged the economic business leaders gathered at davos for this meeting to help the ukrainians outpace the russians by providing ukrainians with the kind of equipment that they need. that is something from the ukrainians have really been asking for tanks right now and asking for more wheeled vehicles and they of course need a con stant and very large supply of ammunition especially artillery rounds and you ask the world to continue to help the ukrainians stay one step ahead of the russians. he also spoke about that devastating attack over the weekend, where a civilian apartment building was hit, and at least 45 people were killed, by a russian missile. he talked about the need, the continued need for ukrainians to have more air defenses. now, the u.s., where there is a lot of coverage a couple of weeks ago ability u.s. announced they would send a patriot system, the training on that system, for ukrainian troops, is just beginning this week, in

oklahoma, and that training is going to take several weeks and that's before the system even gets into ukraine. we're seeing now that there is a continued attack for things in the air, missiles, drones, ukrainians need a constant supply of support if they're goo going to fight back on the russian onslaught. >> thank you very much. coming up, here on the show, the white house briefing happening now, you can see it there, as the president faces more and more pressure about the classified documents found in his home and private office. we'll tell you what we're hearing right ahead. plus the justice department making a big arrest in an international crypto ring and why the feds say it laundered hundreds of millions of dollars later on in the show. but first, some news just coming in from the state department. officials confirming there were americans among those killed in the nepal plane crash earlier this week a live report on that coming up in just 60 seconds. stay with us. we're back in a minute. 60 secons stay with us we're back in a minute (woman 1) i just switched to verizon business unlimited. it's just right for my little business.

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in just the last hour, the state department confirming the deaths of two u.s. citizens and two lawful permanent residents in the nepal plane crash that killed 72 people in all. listen. >> we are deeply saddened to hear of the tragic air crash over the weekend, that killed 72 people including two u.s. citizens and two lawful permanent residents. our thoughts are with the families of those on board, the united states stands ready to support nepal in any way we can at this difficult hour. >> i want to bring in nbc's our national security and global affairs reporter. dan, tell us more about what we're learning about this. >> more bad news here, you know, this plane went down on sunday, in the foothills of the himalayas, and 72 people were killed, the worst air disaster in nepal in 30 years, and you have the state department now confirming that, yes, two american citizens were among

those killed, and two lawful legal residents. and we still don't know the cause of the crash, but the black boxes were retrieved. so there's still speculation as to why that plane went down. and the u.s. is offering any help that nepal asks for. >> dan de luce, appreciate it. back to the white house for the press secretary karine jean-pierre is answering questions from reporting. we know that thursday, there was the appointment of the special counsel in this case. not much more information since then, and the lack of answers lighting a fire in that building that you see on your screen, and amid house republicans, the oversight committee, set to launch its own investigation into this whole thing in the weeks to come. the committee is newly staffed in part with some of the party's most far right member, they got the seats after holding out after now speaker mccarthy, in that marathon push for mccarthy to get that tight in the first

blame. i'm joined by carol lee, white house correspondent. and this is all coming as we have new polling from quinnipiac, the majority of americans, roughly 60 pps, believe there was some kind of an issue, with the way the white house and the way that the president handled the classified documents? >> that's right, hallie. that is the first indication of what the public is thinking about these classified documents that were in the possession of now president biden but after he left the white house, in 2017. and we're also starting to see sort of the political elbows chartening in the white house here when it comes to pushing back on the republicans who are claiming that the president did something nefarious, who are making accusations about the penn biden center, who are calling for an investigation. visitor logs of the private residence. and things like that. we've heard from the white house, including, in response to the naming of those members of the oversight committee, which basically the white house is saying that they've been looking

at the members of this committee, it appears to them that it is designed for political stunts, not for pure oversight, and the president's team saying that this is something that looks like a political exercise, and it is really unclear exactly how the white house is going to engage with these investigations. do they think they are the strong arm men and try to delay and not be fully cooperative or are they cooperative and sort of have a public facing front when it comes to the comments they're making about the committees. we don't exactly know, but first indications are that the white house is going to put up a little bit of a fight here with just commenting on what those committees look like. so the political tones of this are starting to take shape, and getting a little sharper, and yet, the legal strategy from the white house still continues to be, to not say very much publicly, we know karine jean-pierre is asked about the documents and this process and not offering any new answers as last i check and that legal vaeg

of remaining mum on some of these details still seems to be in place. >> outside the white house, carol lee, thank you. some new exclusive reporting from nbc news now, showing former president trump and his staff are hard at work to try to get his facebook account put back in place. you know that meta, which now owns facebook, the parent company of facebook, banned donald trump the day after the january 6th insurrection. pointing out it was mr. trump's instigation leading up to the attack that violated fibromyalgia's policies. two years late -- violated facebook's policies. two years later, that is due up for review. and in a letter obtained by nbc, we believe that the ban on president trump's account on facebook has dramatically distorted and inhibited the public discourse. the former president faced a similar ban on twitter which was reversed back in november after elon musk took over the company. let me bring in now one of the reporters who got the exclusive reporting. john allen, senior national political reporter. talk us through it, john, what you learned, what you heard from

sources in this reporting, about all of it, including the likelihood that donald trump gets his facebook account back. >> with the reporting of mark caputo, there were officials at facebook and meta saying there is a likelihood that donald trump would be let back on. when he was banned from twitter and facebook the day after the january 6th riot, those were supposed to be permanent bans but facebook quickly turned around its oversight board saying it would be a two-year ban and revisit it. so there is a lot of indication from that side that they don't intend this to be permanent. at the same time, the trump campaign, according to our sources, believes that it will in fact get reinstated on facebook, and at one point, they were thinking about sending a letter, filing a lawsuit to try to get back on and eventually ended up with the letter asking simply that the former president be reinstated. >> what is interesting here, this is not simply a matter, it

seems to me, of the former president's campaign looking to get kind of whatever facebook clout they can, if you will, there's a financial incentive here, too, right? >> oh, absolutely. you know, there's probably no more powerful platform for donald trump to get his message out, certainly the political messaging than facebook. we saw that in the 2016 election. the rules have changed some, but still facebook, the sharing among like-minded people, it is a huge way to get a message out and one of the big messages that is important, it is time to send money. when you see the advisements on facebook and the sharing of people people who are trump fans, this is a huge situation for him, for trump to be able to run a campaign as effectively as he did in 2016, or as effectively as he did in 2020. >> great reporting. thank you very much for bringing that to us. appreciate it. >> thanks. still ahead, they also derailed kevin mccarthy's push to become speaker but now they're getting some pretty plum committee assignments. a couple of them at least.

while others did back him, are getting some upgrades. plus the former officer convicted of killing george floyd is asking a court to reverse his conviction. why his lawyer said he did not get a fair trial, next.

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over at the justice department, some new steps coming today to crack down on crypto, including the arrest of a crypto exchange founder, prosecutors are accusing of running a huge money laundering

scheme. $700 million, a plot that apparently enabled criminals to traffic drugs and steal people's money and their identities on the crypto platform. watch. >> today's law enforcement actions put all of those who seek to exploit the cryptocurrency ecosystem on notice, that the department of justice would use every tool, working along with our partners, every tool that we have, to attack the criminal use of the dark net, and cryptocurrency. >> this new move from the d.o.j. comes as we're seeing a lot of attention from crypto, and not just from investigators but also from lawmakers because there is some controversy around the industry. as you probably know, i want to bring in nbc news justice and in tenl correspondent ken dilanian with us now, talk about this arrest here and stepping back, big picture, what it all says about crackdowns against crypto

writ large especially after what we've seen with ftx and sam bankman-fried, the now disgraced founder of that exchange? >> they prosecute a lot of money laundering cases in this building and a lot of them are not talked about on television and this one is a big deal because it involved crypto and russia and china. and this defendant is a russian national who is living in china, operating this exchange in hong kong, this crypto exchange that prosecutors say was a giant money laundering enterprise for drug dealers, ransom ware gangs and others, and what is significant is they were able to reach out and grab this guy and lured limb to miami somehow and arrested him this morning, even though he was operating entirely offshore. take a listen to a top fbi official, brian turn. >> the cyber criminal enterprise, and the cyber money, they thought it was outside the reach of the u.s. government but as this currency exchange was not operating with impunity. >> what it shows is even when

you have countries that are not cooperating, people think that cryptocurrency is anonymous and good for criminals, but actually, the fbi can trace it in some cases better than they can trace cash, and the issue is with some of these exchanges, they follow know your customers rules that people can create anonymous accounts and this is the justice department reaching out to try to stop that behavior. >> ken dilanian, it is really interesting and important, thank you very much for that reporting. take you now to minneapolis where former police officer derek chauvin's legal team was in court to appeal the conviction for the murder of george floyd. oral arguments started this morning and you're looking at video inside the courthouse, chauvin himself was not there in person. now, he's saying he wasn't given a fair trial. his defense is making the argument that because of everything that led up to that guilty verdict, george floyd's death, the riots, everything in between, had more media coverage than any other event in the city's history. nbc's shaq brewster is covering this one for us. explain this. what does the court have to

decide now? what are the outcomes? what do they mean for derek chauvin? >> reporter: well, this court has about 90 days to determine if derek chauvin deserves a new trial. that was the primary argument that you heard from the legal team today, in the courtroom, saying that as you mentioned, because of the pre-trial publicity, because of the fact that nearly everyone saw at least a clip of that video before the trial started, that derek chauvin wasn't able to get a fair trial. you heard the prosecution, or the state push back aggressively on the claims and the accusations that were raised. i want you to see insood the courthouse and hear from derrick chauvin's attorney and then afterward, you will hear from the state saying what they are saying is simply not true. listen. >> the primary issue on the appeal is whether a criminal defendant can get a fair trial consistent with constitutional requirements in a courthouse that is surrounded by concrete block, barbed wire, two armored personnel carriers, and a squad of national guard troops.

>> chauvin's many arguments before this court do not come close to justify a reversal. there was no abuse of discretion. nor actual prejudice. and to the contrary, the judge managed this trial with enormous care. >> reporter: and that was a reoccurring theme that you heard throughout the hearing. you also heard the defense, or excuse me, derek chauvin's attorney come through and say there was one juror who wasn't completely honest during the questioning process, and you heard the defense come back and say, no, that was your job, that was the attorney's job to go through and ask specific questions during that process, and that if you didn't do that, that's on you, not on the entire system. one thing that is important to note here, hallie, is because derek chauvin also pled guilty in federal court, for the federal civil rights violations against george floyd, even if he wins this appeal, which legal experts say it is a high bar for him to do so, even if he wins this appeal, it is not that he

will then leave jail the next day or leave prison the next day, he will likely serve about the same amount of time as he is currently serving right now. that's because of that federal plea deal. in that case, he did not, or he does not have the ability to seek an appeal. he waived his right for an appeal. so while this may not impact derek chauvin, what you have legal experts saying is that it could influence how future police officers are tried. again, we'll have some decision from this court within 90 days. >> shaq brewster, thank you very much. let's bring you back to washington. a building not too far from where i'm sitting where republicans in the house of representatives are revealing who is going to sit on some key committees. who is going to be at the center of stuff, like investigations into the biden administration? potential cuts to government funding, moves to beef up border security maybe? feel like, oh, my gosh, house committee assignments, do we need dc inside baseball? let me explain why it matters.

tl/dr. too long. didn't read. and all of the speaker drama, and the 21 gop holdouts had some big asks for kevin mccarthy, more influence they wanted on congressional committees, before they vote to help get in the speaker's gavel. those are the committees that are going to be setting the gop's agenda for the next two years. executing on the gop's agenda. and not everyone holdout got exactly what they asked for from now speaker mccarthy. let's bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. when whee know about these assignments, and what clue does they give us about what is going to happen in the house over the next couple of years? >> i'm glad you're pointing out how important this is, but even though it seems like it is inside baseball, this is the way that bills will get put together, how things get prioritized on committee, and as we enter this period of divided government where the house is going to be doing a lot of investigating and oversight of the biden administration, a lot of these people are faces that you will see on the screen a lot, if you're one of the viewers at home. take a look for example, they are names we heard during the

speaker drama two weeks ago but there is a sign here, just because they rebuked mccarthy trying to get the speaker job, there is no retribution when it comes to being put on the committees. let me draw your attention for example to the judiciary committee and we're seeing matt gaetz' name, and andy biggs, and chaired by jim jordan, a lot of investigating of president biden and then on the oversight committee as well, scott perry, paul gories, lauren boebert, marjorie taylor greene is one that is in there, she is not on the board because she was one of kevin mccarthy's greatest allies during the speaker fight. nevertheless, gosar and greene didn't have committee assignments last time because of comments that they made that were racist and urging violence against their democratic colleagues here, and now they are back on these committees and they are very high profile ones going forward. >> one thing is the white house is pushing back big time on the

oversight committee now run by the gop, right? explain some of that dynamic. >> this is going to be important. because already, they have only barely put the committees together but the chairman, the oversight committee, the judiciary committee, the intel committee and trying to get more information about the documents that were found that were temporary, from the office and at his home in wilmington and i asked with the white house on a call, would they cooperate with, that they say they want to act in good faith, but they're now pointing to the people who are on these committees, pointing to things that marjorie taylor greene, paul gosar and others have said in the past, the idea for example, that scott perry is one of the people who the january 6th committee shed light on his actions in the lead-up of january 6th and trying to install jeffrey clark at the top of the justice e-of department, it does beg questions about whether or not they are going to move forward with some of the

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if you're attuned to the cultural zeitgeist as i'm sure you are, you probably noticed a lots of stuff in the early 200s is back, low rise jeans, no thank you, disposable cameras, all making a comeback. including some people flipping out over, yes, flip phones. you get it? you know why they're so popular? emilie ikeda does. i assume you don't have a flip phone. mine are in a trash bucket so far. who knows where they ended up. what is happening? >> did you have ha? did you get it as a problem for the story. >> i had it as a prop. i had to check it out. do you remember what it is like to text on these things, abc, abc, yes. >> 33-e-6-m-444-i. that is part of my first name there. and there is a new generation that is really embracing the simplicity of really '90s era

tech. but they're also driving kind of this new crazy over flip phones, somewhat of a wholesome reason. take a look. >> hello. >> the year 2000 is calling. >> yeah. >> and it's time generation z is picking up. >> flip phones, complete with custom ring tones and bejewelled exteriors are back in style. >> please press left. >> celebrities are dialing into the fun. camill a cabelo, has racked up hundreds of millions of views on social media thanks to videos like this. >> it is eliminating all of the bad things about college and brings all of the good things about a phone. >> college student sammy and her

friends swapped out the smart devices for a '90s era tech when they go out. >> the phone is the biggest hindrance when in social settings and i'm checking it and i want to be in the moment as much as i can. >> debbie in asheville agrees. >> it is great to have the genuine moments and not an edited picture on instagram. >> google searches tripled in five years. >> when i got the flip phone, things instantly changed a social media free lifestyle told "the new york times." it made me observe myself as a person. just as smartphones and social media have exploded, so has the rate of teen depression. >> what is the balance of connection and friends and those in my life that i want, and having the phone, it adds or takes away it. >> hoda says she thrived ten days without her smartphone on a 2021 retreat. >> i feel so free and so clear. >> so if you're looking to dial back screen time without completely ditching your device,

experts say quiet notifications or features like do not disturb, keep your phone out of your bedroom, and use apps like space or off the grid, to limit your browsing time. tools to call back your freedom in the age of technology. >> okay, so yes, you can still find some of the og-flip phones, the relics on ebay, and remember that pink thing razr phone or the one that would open like this, but new companies are rolling out new models, samsung just released one that is reaching and exceeding $1,000, there are more affordable ones like this one as well. so we are seeing history repeat itself. in some level. >> which is no surprise. but hallie, i've been documenting so i'll take a picture, let's check out the camera. >> duck lips. thank you. >> can i be honest, did we just, did we just kill the flip phone vibe by covering it on the news? i feel like once it hits the news, it is not cool. >> we're making it uncool maybe.

>> here, look at that quality? >> i love it. >> emilie ikeda, thank you very much. wasn't that fun? something else, very different let's say. new reporting in the "washington post" that is adding to the embellishments of things that are not true that congressman george santos is accused of saying. the report saying the earn fromman congressman who was not telling the truth when he said his mother was in the twin towers when they were attacked on 9/11 and this was forwarded by the post review documents that showed mr. santos's mother was in her native country of brazil until 2003. nbc news has not independently verified this report and the congressman has not responded to our requests for comment made by nbc overnight. let me bring in the senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. and help us understand what we're learning from the "washington post" reporting. >> hallie, george santos claims are specific. he says his mother was in the south tower on 9/11 and sur

vived the attack on that day and the immigration documents of the foia request, and the "washington post" says they have reviewed the documents and they show that anthony, he was known at the time, his mother was still in brazil until 2003. now as you point out, we haven't gotten our hands on these documents yet. i've emailed the researcher who provided them to the "post," alex, if you're watching, get back to me when you take a look at the documents. this is the latest in a string obviously, of specific elements of santos' biography that are being debunked almost line by line. starting with "the new york times" story back in december, and continuing to unspool in realtime. and i think this will be particularly noteworthy given the district across the river, in queens and the fact that we're seeing some specific elements of his biography, being the things that have turned his fellow new york congressmen against him.

one of his fellow freshmen said it was the fact that santos pretended to be jewish that was the thing that turned him most away. and when you're pretending to have connections to a 9/11 survivor, or connected to a 9/11 survivor, particularly odious for people who lost people in their lives that day. and we're out to santos office and the researcher to see if we can track down the same documents but the drip, drip, drip, newly impaneled on two committees, george santos continues. >> garrett haake, live for us on the hill, thank you very much. still ahead, it has been months sin the water crisis in jackson, mississippi, first made headlines but now the attention is fading, so are the volunteers and the donations. we will talk about what is being done about it next. ut it next us. but with upwork... with upwork the hiring process is fast and flexible. behold... all that talent! ♪ this is how we work now ♪

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still boil water notices across the city. people still reporting murky brown water coming out of their faucets, still relying on bottled water for drinking, even to bathe in. but the attention around this crisis and the resources that people in jackson need, those are fading fast with donations and volunteers getting harder to come by. think about last year. we saw long lines for stockpiles of bottled water. but now, a community organizer is telling nbc news, things are way different, saying in their words there is still a fight to give people this basic necessity. i want to bring in yamiche alcindor who has been all over this. this didn't just spring up overnight, it has been building for years. 80% of the community is black. how is it that we have to get on here, on the news, and say still happening months later. how is that possible? >> it is heart breaking it is still happening, it is still happening because there are

resource gaps, acute failures plaguing the city's drinking water. the justice department filed in a complaint against the city of jackson alleging it failed to provide residents proper drinking water in violation of the nation's safe drinking water act and following doj action a third party will now be appointed to operate the water system there, taking charge of everything from billing customers to making needed improvements. that third party is expected to be a dallas-based engineering firm. it is expected to take over operations next month, according to the city's recently appointed water manager. also, environmental protection agency administrator told me that jackson is one of countless communities across the u.s. grappling with aging water infrastructure as federal investment dwindled. why we're here is because there has not been the critical investment needed to help cities like jackson avoid going into the failures that we're seeing across the country. >> yamiche you talk about other communities struggling, dealing with decades old water infrastructure issues.

have any of those places found solutions that have worked, like what has been successful in some of these other locations, something that may help people in jackson? >> it is a critical question and one that the doj as well as the epa, the environmental protection agency, they're looking at. i just did a story about baltimore, where are having critical water issues. from my understanding in talking to the epa administrator, they're saying it is really about investment and putting money in different systems. they're pointing at places like west virginia, like baltimore, like lowndes county, alabama, all these different places, they're having issues. it is not clear there is a solution other than having money and replacing pipes. you see in some cities, a lot of local officials removing pipes, removing sort of the old infrastructure and building in new infrastructure. that's why a lot of the officials i talked to including the epa administrator, he put in the bipartisan infrastructure act, so that's the solution. that being said, the money that

is there right now, hallie it a fraction, a fraction of what is needed based on the federal government's own estimates. it is really in some ways a very hard situation with not an easy solution. >> i wonder if the people in jackson feel abandoned at this point? >> they do. especially when you talk to people about whether or not they feel like their voices are being heard. we have a great story on nbcnews.com, we have officials saying -- and residents saying this is still going on, but we're not getting the news coverage, the people who are really caring about jackson in the way they were caring when this first started happening. >> thank you for staying on top of it. we'll continue to did that here on msnbc on this show. thanks to all of you for watching this hour of msnbc. you can find us on twitter with highlights from the show and new reporting on hallieonmsnbc and on our streaming channel. tonight and every week night for show number two at 5:00 eastern. nicolle picks it up with "deadline: white house" right after this break. it up with "deadline: white house" right after this break

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