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something and i'll take the compliment as my own. >> mika, i love that yellow mug. i'm so scared to say anything. i'm put in a weird position. >> jesse, you handled that weird position well. it's been an honor working with you. congratulations. it has to be so exciting. >> i think you look nice. that does it for us this morning. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage right now. >> that was really chaotic ending. thank you for your patience. good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern. 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart reporting from washington. president biden says he has no regrets when it comes to the controversy surrounding the discovery of classified documents in his delaware home and former office. we'll discuss what this means for his potential 2024 al bigss. >> the supreme court was unable
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to determine who leaked the draft of the opinion and the ending 50 years of precedent. we'll break down where the fight on abortion rights is heading now. the treasury department now say it is has taken extraordinary measures to avoid default after the u.s. hit its debt limit. jared bernstine will join us with what happens now. and today the president will meet with mayors from across the country at the white house. i spoke with four of them about the top account issues facing their communities, including the migrant humanitarian crisis. >> we have an i want krblly complex and broken immigration system. and we need to demand from congress that they act and they act now. we begin this hour with
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president biden making his first public comments since the doj appointed a special counsel to investigate classified documents found at his delaware home and former office. the president spoke to reporters while touring storm ravaged california. >> we're fully cooperating and looking forward to getting this resolved quickly. i think you're going to find there's nothing there. i have no regrets. >> the controversy looming over the president as he considers whether to run for reelection. and today as biden marks the halfway point of his term, he will host the conference of mayors where he's expected to tout the administration's achievements. joining us is monica alba. it's great to see you this morning. how does the investigation around classified documents complicate president biden's decision whether or not to run? >> it's a very different conversation than the biden white house thought they would be having they thought they would be gearing up for this major reelection bid. something that the president had
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hinted at, he had been in final discussions with his family about, but all signs were pointing to yes. then this news came to the forefront. we have to remember this is something the president knew about. it's something his top aids knew about for a couple months before they disclosed it to the public. and only after media reports. so you know it did factor into some of those conversations about the timeline. when you talk to aids, they say this isn't going to affect this decision. you can't ignore the major political fire storm this has created. now the president wants to create some distance between all of this that is still unfoed folding and that ultimate decision. it sounds like according to sources who have been a part of these conversations, this decision won't come or won't be announced until after the state of the union, which is scheduled for february 7th, so a couple weeks from now. they are hoping maybe this can settle a little bit. perhaps there will be answers to some of the unknowns. but the president is going to
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try to focus on what really he's been able to accomplish over the last two years as we're talking here now the two-year anniversary of his inauguration. they are going to point to what they have been able to do in office. the legislative chaesmts, they are going to try to shift the conversations. but there was so much pressure. that's why yid he felt he needed to come out and address this while touring devastation in california. that speaks to the fact as commander-in-chief, he was doing something completely different but normal for his day job while answering these questions that are continuing to loom over all of it. >> all indications are that he wants to run for reelection. who are the people that he is consulting with? >> number one, the first lady. dr. biden is somebody who at theened of the day likely gets the final conversation about all of this. we have heard her talk about it. and here instinct has been to say she wants the president to run again. she told our team in our reporting look at everything he's bye-bye able to do and we are far from finished. so i suspect that is a part of
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it. but there's another looming conversation, which is the physical health of the president and the first lady, who did undergo treatments for skin cancer. the president has to do a physical he's been doing that annually. he's due to do that if the next couple weeks. that could be another factor to had. the president intends is to run. the question is how he frames that as these questions continue. >> i'm so happy to see you in person here on the set. we have to do this more often. >> i agree. >> thank you. turning now to our other top story, the supreme court says it was unable to determine who leaked the draft opinion of that decision that overturned roe v. wade. the draft was offered by justice alito. it was only marginally different where they upheld the ban of abortion on 15 weeks striking down decades of precedent. and today in washington, antiabortion activists are hold
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ing the first march for life event since roe ended just ahead of what would have be its 50th anniversary on sunday. joining us with more is senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, marissa parra, and mya is president of the leadership conference on civil and human rights. so what do we know about the investigation? is it now over? >> reporter: the first chapter is certainly over. it may, in effect, be over. and that is the high court agreed to have this u.s. marshal do the investigation and then had an outside group led by former homeland security secretary review that work. and they have presented the report and they talked about the extensive interviews and forensic studies they have done. and that has concluded. but the door is not closed to potential new leads or any other
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information that may come forward. the headline is they are not able to tell us who was responsible for the leak of the draft that was published by politico in may weeks before the nation learned of the actual outcome of the dobbs case, which overturned the right to abortion. and such an enormous decision being leaked. the justices themselves say this is a grave breach and an injury to the court itself. so the stakes have been high. not finding a culprit, not giving a specific answer leaves open the question could this happen again. so part of the recommendations in the report include things about how to tighten security around who has access to the draft documents as the court is working on them. other steps they can take to control who gets to deal with the secure communications inside the court. will that have an impact. we'll have to see how it plays
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out. but it remains a question with other high profile cases. is there a possibility that a leak could happen again. one of the question marks of the court is that it talks about employees of the court. there are clerks, there are staff members. roughly 100 people were not talking about the justices themselves, who were most informed about the content of the draft. itten doesn't indicate if they were directly involved in this investigation over or not. that's a question we don't have an answer to. but it leaves really a sense of how did this happen and how is there not a way to know more? they do not believe there was an electronic breach. to hacking involved no one came forward and confessed. so that leaves them saying that while they had evidence in terms of interviews and even a fingerprint that they looked at and checking the hardware of
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equipment like printers and so forth to try to determine who would have had access, they couldn't come up with an answer. >> and mya in october, justic alito said the leak of that draft opinion put justices' lye lives at risk. it gave people a rational think the decision could be prevented by killing one of us. how much damage did the leak and how it was handled do to the court standing? >> i think the court standing was dalked by the fact not of the leak itself, although obviously that's of concern to a court that does rely on the ability to deliberate in private in order to disagree with one another and work out where they are going to end up on a case. that does matter. and there should never be violence against anyone. public servant or private citizen, that's abhorrent. but the real truth here is whats
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was at stake was the first fundamental right recognized for five decades in this country and by historical practice for over 100 years before that allowed a woman to decide what to do with her body and keep the state from intervening between her and her doctor. that's really what set off the fire storm is the substance of the opinion. not the leak itself. and what's truly at stake right now and continuing today are the lives of women and girls. people who are transgender, who are now actually facing criminal prosecution in some instances simply for trying to make a decision over their oif own lives and their own body. >> we mentioned that this sunday would have been the 50th anniversary of roe v. wade. what are the legal challenges going forward to folks to try to expand access to the abortion pill? >> yeah, first of all, the biden
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administration already took steps federally to try to make sure people could get access to medication that has been shown to be safe and effective. it's also we have to correct what it is. a lot of these are medications that prevent ovulation. but this is the point. we're having the wrong discussions so much in this country right now. which is we though that people have different believes and views the question has been how do we protect their freedoms and rights that allow them to make the decisions they should be able to make. that includes medically aproved medication. there's so many people right now who are fearful of criminal prosecution for trying to take control of their own health care, and doctors and providers who have to actually be concerned about whether prosecutors are going to show up at their doors for trying to take their hippocratic oath and
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make good with it, which is give their patients the best medical advice they can in these circumstances. we should be deeply concerned that we have created such confusion and such complexity that we're seeing people like a woman in texas who got arrested by a of sheriff for attempted murder because she was accused of trying to end her pregnancy this is a country that's in turmoil righting now it's in turmoil because of a supreme court decision that did not live up to the standards we expect from the court. >> as we said today, activists are holding their first march for life event since roe ended. what are your hearing from folks there? >> both supporters and opponents of abortion rights say they were galvanized by the overturning of roe v. wade. obviously, in very different ways. we talked to people on both sides of this coin. we'll start first and let you
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take a listen. we'll start with the president of march for life. take a listen. >> the most important goal of the march for life is that we want to create a culture where abortion is unthinkable. so that's definitely not the case as we saw from the backlash to the dobbs decision. but even if we're working towards the laws being more protective of life, we have a long way to go. >> we know that roe was the tloor. it never guaranteed access for everyone who needed it. now we have an opportunity to build a new system. a new world where everyone is cared for in the way that they feel is best and supported but their health care providers. >> so you heard it yourself. that last one you heard from is the ceo with physicians for reproductive health. so when we talk about supporters of abortion rights, they are taking to the street this is weekend. they have their own protests on sunday. the 50th anniversary of roe v.
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wade called bigger than roe. ultimately, their bottom line has been that row was never meant to be the end. it was meant to be the beginning. that was the bare minimum. they have been fighting for access to abortions in a way that people in vulnerable communities can get. they were not satisfied with roe. so they want to not only reinstate what we had, but go further. we are in march for life. this is just beginning. this is the start, the concert is going to start in an hour. but this is the first march for life in a world post roe. we have seen signs that say "i am the post roe generation." they will be taking to the streets because even though roe v. wade was overturned, as long as abortions are still happening in the country, they will continue to march. so they are doing something different. they are marching differently. on the other side is the capitol. so they will actually be marching to the capitol and they will symbolically be stopping
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between the capitol and the supreme court as a symbolic gesture that the legislation is really the judiciary and the legislation together as we're looking at the states in this upcoming session that is key for both sides here. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you for being with us this it morning. up next, the treasury department says it's taking extraordinary measures to pay the nation's bills after reaching a debt limit. we'll talk to a white house official about what that means and how long this can go on and how this can affect all of us. and a little later my important conversation with bipartisan mayors from some of the nation's biggest cities. what they say they need when it comes to the humanitarian crisis at the border. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. [ laughs ] [ horn honks, muffled talking ] -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop,
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18 past the hour. breaking news this morning. more tech workers losing their jobs. gog the's parent company announced it plans to lay off 12,000 employees, about 6% of its global workforce. the ceo says today's economic reality is much different than the past two years and adds he takes full responsibility for the decisions that led up to this point. amazon, maine ta, microsoft and twitter have announced thousands of layoffs after a pandemic boom in hiring. become here in the nation's capital, the treasury department initiated extraordinary measures to pay the nation's bills after
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the u.s. officially hit its borrowing limit yesterday. the department says these measures will likely last until the 5th of june. but if a debt limit isn't increased or suspended, the u.s. could fail to meet financial obligations for the first time this history and that could potentially be devastating to the economy. many republicans have said they will not vote to increase a debt ceiling unless there are spending cuts democrats in the white house say is a nonstarter. with us now is jared bernstine, the council of advisers. it's great to see you. i thank you for being with us. why won't the white house initiate some conversations over the debt limit? >> first of all, let's be clear that this the president, who has a very strong record on definite sut reduction, $1.7 trillion deficit reduction in his term so far, has shown consistent willingness and ability negotiate with the other side on
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behalf of the american people. this isn't that. this is an action that republicans took three times under president trump. kevin mccarthy signed an increase without any conditions three times under president trump. so if they want to talk about fiscal responsibility, bring itten opt. if they want to hold the economy hostage and threaten default to force cuts social security in medicare, nope. he's not there for that. >> so why is it that there were three opportunities and three moments during the four years of the trump administratio when they did lift that ceiling without a required negotiation. it's the same debt limit issue. >> correct. it's the exact same condition. >> so what's the difference? >> the difference must be
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politics. and the difference is just an unwillingness to do what needs to be done on behalf of the american people. and i don't think you should ever play ol ticks with the debt ceiling. i don't think you should threaten default of the world's safest security, which is the u.s. dollar, threatening to raise interest rates and undermine the kind of progress we have made thus far. but i especially don't think given the momentum that we have made under this president's watch on the economy. we have historic job growth and low unemployment. we now thankfully have inflation 2.5% off its most recent peak. it's never a good time to play politics with the ceil cans. >> give me your thoughts on the inflation. what is your estimation of when inflation will start going down? i know it's less of an increase. it's still an increase in
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inflation. when do you see that changing? >> inflation has been going down consistently since last summer six months in a row of declines in inflation in the consumer part of it, but also we learned this week in the producer art. the part that businesses face. that's been a pretty steady trend. the council of economic adviser, we avoid getting too overheated, but six months is a trend. we think there's momentum there. one area where we see some important improvements on behalf of consume irs is both gas prices and food price, though not eggs. but gases price were down 9% in december in the consumer index. 13% in the producer index. >> what is it that you're telling the president going forward on the issue of trying to avoid what may happen the 6th of june? >> it's what the president is telling anyone who want thes to listen, including the congress.
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35 past the hour. hundreds of mayors from across the country are here in washington for the winter meeting of the u.s. conference of mayors. right now, they are hearing from cabinet members, including attorney general merrick garland. they will be visiting the white house and meeting with the president biden. one issue on the agenda this week has been the humanitarian crisis at the southern border. ciies across the country are finding themselves on the front lines of this issue. sat down with four mayors of miami, moouk the hancock of denver, jim kenny philadelphia and tucson's mayor to talk about what their cities are experiencing and what needs to be done to deal with this crisis. >> tucson for decades has been receiving asylum seekers. we have partnered with churches, nonft rofts, our county and most
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recently the white house to receive and welcome asylum seekers in a humane, dignified way. so for decades, some of mutt fellow mayors are most recently receiving bus loads, but we have been receiving bus loads of asylum seekers for decades. we have a system of how to care for them. >> the amount of people arriving this a short period of time, which is unusual. >> and many times border patrol calls the city of tucson is a and is we're going to have 300 asylum seekers in your community in the next four hours. so we have adopted a system with churches to welcome them. >> we have a space that the county owns. we test them, if they want a
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vaccine, we give it to them. most importantly, they want a meal. and so we usually have them from 24 to 48 hours. we have seen increases in the past year. we saw them again this year. but we're not doing it alone this time around. we have the biden administration administration that we have a direct line to. and we are seeing because of a broken immigration system, we're seeing people not just from red america, we are seeing people from all over the world. what that tells us is that we have an incredibly complicated, complex and broken immigration system. and we need to demand from
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congress that they act and they act now. >> it seems as though cities are being left in but cities are being left to deal with this problem almost on their own. >> we are. we are being left to our other than devices, which are extremely limited for this sort of thing. cities and states are ill equipped to deal with what we're dealing with right now. it's because of the dereliction of duty of our congress to pass an immigration strategy and plan. and the reality is that they have had opportunities. they play politics with them. so parts of politics have left our states unprepared to address the challenge we're doing today. we have had migrants come to denver. at the same time, we're trying
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to house our unhoused, which is at record levels all over this country. >> how do you balance that? >> it's interesting. they see us doing everything we can. we have had homeless people this our city. why aren't you doing that for hem? we have been. but because this is part of our system and our muscle memory, people don't think about it every day that we have been providing shelter, food, services, everything that the mayor saud we're doing. but now it's national news. we're taking rec centers offline and we're doing everything we can to make sure we help. >> how do you continue the funding? >> the state has been helpful. but the reality is that our
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nation, our congress should be embarrassed by what's happening today. >> i do agree with the mayor hancock that congress needs to get their arms around this thing. if you have a predictable way of getting into the country, being considered for citizenship, and the ability to work, i think a lot of this pressure goes away. and i do believe that we need -- i get the same pushback that you get from long-term residents. why are we taking care of their foreigners. because we were all foreigners at one point. we took care of everybody. it's a struggle. we're not in crisis yet. and we're willing to take as many as people are willing to send. we'll do our best to make it work. >> 200,000 people came into south florida in the miami area last year alone. we're seeing record number of people being entered.
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how does it chakt your city? how do you see this in an unlimited numbers going forward and how do you fate for it, how do you prioritize? >> to guf you one example in the last year, our public school system has a rise of 14,000 students. if you do the math and assume big schools, that's seven new schools you're trying to add to a public school system so that's a tremendous burden to try to accommodate that number of students. >> it's a great hospital system. >> you also have homelessness. and it makes it difficult when you're dealing with a migrant population that could find themselves in a state of homelessness. we often in this country we talk
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about the symptom and not the cause of it something that goes unaddressed by our government. and i thus that's something that we need to have a comprehensive strategy. they scream about this issue than actually solve the issue. >> both sides get a the lot of this not being solved. >> they absolutely do. >> i think it's the rise authoritarianism. >> they are not a monopoly.
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you have cuba, 63 years of the system there. and that's just three countries. if you look at all the others affected. >> i would disagree that both parties are using this time. many times democrats have brought bills, including senator sinema, just brought a bill and -- >> it's still being talked about. >> it's still being talked about. but she wouldn't even get a hearing. so democrats have passed immigration reform in the house and the senate does not -- refuses to pass it. it's really not same. i would say with president trump's rhetoric, it became even much more difficult to talk about immigration reform, which is what exactly what we need because remember, title 42 is a
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public health mandate. it is not an immigration process. people are thinking if we keep title 42 in place, it's going it help cities. no, it's really not. you're just delaying. i live 60 mile was from the border. i see what happens in had terms of just you're just holding the foot on the neck of the cities that are in all of the border cities we're seeing this. it has just has to stop. we can't use human beings as political pawns to sew division in this country. >> this is a conversation -- >> this flow of immigrants would be a different conversation. you can't remove thats race issue away from this issue. if it's black or brown people,
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there's a different reaction than if they were white europeans from england or germany or wherever. it's a difference. we receive no pushback on ukrainians or afghans because they were our alies in the war. but because the color of people are different than the majority of americans, there's a problem. >> let's underscore the fact they want to work we have vens way lances showing up at construction sites saying i want to work. they can't. members of congress want to hide behind the laws. they need to do that. but if they want to play partisan politics, there's not a city in america today, maybe for
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miami in different reasons, who does not need workers because not everybody came back after the pandemic. >> there is so much more to this conversation, including what the mayors are doing about gun violence and how they are planning for climate change and how climate change is already affecting their cities. you can see the entire interview right after this show on youtube and on our twitter page. it was a it is a nating conversation. i thank the mayors for giving us their time. up next, the latest on the charges against alec baldwin for his role in the shooting on the movie set of "rust." he denies pulling trigger. why the da disputes that. we'll talk about that, next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." watching diaz-balart reports.
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brief document filed friday morning with u.s. district judge donald middlebrooks. and the same judge warned trump's illegal team that the lawsuit appeared close to being frivolous. that same judge yesterday ordered trump and his attorney to pay fines of nearly a million dollars after he determined that a separate lawsuit, trump's 2022 lawsuit against hillary clinton was frivolous litigation meant only to seek revenge. this is starting to become a pattern. judges are getting tougher on trump. earlier this month, a judge reprimanded trump for wasting his court's time with what he deemed frivolous legal maneuvers. trump's lawsuit against the attorney general had sought to shield his trust from the ag's ongoing $250 million civil lawsuit alleging fraudulent conduct at the trump organization. but that lawsuit is no more.
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jose? >> thank you very much. also this morning, actor alec baldwin is facing involuntary manslaughter and firearms charges in the death of cinematographer halyna hutchins on the set of the "rust" in film's armorer is being charged with involuntary manslaughter. prosecutors argue baldwin had a duty to ensure the gun he held was safe to handle. the actor maintains he pulled the hammer's weapon back but did not pull the trigger. santa fe's district attorney disputed that claim to miguel almaguer. >> alec baldwin said he never pulled the trigger on the handgun that fired. do you believe that? >> that's not true. and we know that from the fbi lab report. that gun would not have fired without the trigger having been pulled. >> joining us now to discuss, laura jarrett. laura, thank you.
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wondering how hard this case is going to be. >> you can see it shaping up here. there's a disagreement on the fact and is the law. the theory is that baldwin had an obligation to check the gun himself, open it up and make sure there were no live rounds there. baldwin said he was told there were no live rounds on set and he relied on the expertise on those around him who were gun safety experts. there's going to be a battle of the experts, if you will, that's a phrase our viewers are going to hear. both sides are going to have testimony on what he was obligated to do. the prosecutors think they have testimony from other experts in the field who say he was supposed to have done that and he didn't. >> there's the issue of baldwin saying publicly that he pulled back the hammer, but didn't pull the trigger. how much of -- is that going to weigh? >> it's a real factual dispute and part of the pickle for
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baldwin, he went on camera in an interview with abc and said that he did not pull the trigger and now prosecutors are saying they have him on video with his hand on the trigger, we haven't seen that, but prosecutors are saying, they have an fbi report to back up that the gun couldn't fire unless he had actually pulled the trigger. if you can they can show the jury he lied, that's a real problem for him. he's going to say whether he pulled it or not, he was told there were no live rounds on set and he had no reason to believe that there were live rounds on set. >> that's going to be a key point there. >> yes. >> although i think it's going to be easy to demonstrate that there was no gun that fires without a trigger being pulled. >> but the whole idea of there not being clarity on why live rounds were on set was a problem for the prosecution. they did not want to answer it yesterday. but i think the jury is going to want to know, how did live rounds get on set when there were not supposed to be there. >> what does it mean for baldwin that the first assistant
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director agreed to testify. >> he's agreed to take a plea deal. he is going to testify about all of the problematic atmospherics on the set. their theory, the prosecutors think they can show, is that this was a sloppy set. it was a low-budget film and they were cutting costs in the name of safety. if dave halls can testify that alec baldwin knew that, it's a problem for baldwin. >> the fact that he was actor and also a producer on that film, maybe that has something to do with it? >> that seems to be prosecutors' theory, but it's unclear where they're getting that from. the idea being that he should will be more on notice. maybe he had a heightened burden because he was a producer. but people can be producers for all kinds of reasons and it seems to me that that doesn't come from anywhere other than the idea that prosecutors think it bolsters their case. again, there's going to be expert testimony on all of this. >> laura jarrett, thank you so much. appreciate your time. and that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on
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