♪♪ good friday morning. i'm lindsey reiser at msnbc headquarters in new york. this morning another chilling ripple across the tech industry and for our economy overall.

thousands more people are waking up to the news they will soon be out of a job. after google's parent company alphabet announced it is slashing a whooping 12,000 jobs worldwide. that's more than 6% of its workforce according to cnbc. it's one day after microsoft announced 10,000 layoffs. so what's driving these signature job cuts and what does it say about our economic climate? president biden marking the halfway point of his first term in the white house under a cloud of controversy. the president finally broke his days' long silence about classified documents from his time as vice president found in his former office and home. >> i have no regrets. i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. it's exactly what we're doing. there's no there-there. >> how will that response land with congressional republicans eager to launch investigations? plus, a look at the very

first march for life happening in washington since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. we're live at the march ahead. and a day after charges were announced against alec baldwin and others involved in the shooting on the "rust" film set, we're hearing from the prosecutor who made that decision. what she's telling nbc news about the case. we begin with the president and his new comments on those classified documents. mike memoli joins me now from the white house. i'm joining by former senior adviser to the biden campaign and our national political correspondent steve kornacki is at the big board. the president has been silent on this. he finally commented, though, during that trip. what changed his calculus and what are you learning about how this is playing out inside the west wing? >> lindsey, it was notable to hear from the president yesterday given that relative silence over the course of the past week as reporters have tried to ask him questions about this. as i've talked to some democratic allies of the white house and officials in the white

house itself, there seem to be two ways of interpreting those comments, one was an example of the frustration that president biden has expressed privately about how his team has navigated through this crisis and, indeed, the president before he answered that question did vent some frustration, gently chiding the reporter who asked him about it, about the fact that it was a distraction from his effort to put a spotlight on the suffering of the communities affected by severe weather in california. but the other way of looking at it is an example of how they really feel they've begun to weather this crisis. it was a sort of -- at a full boil certainly at the beginning of the week, a crisis atmosphere around the white house that they now feel has gone to at least a simmer of distraction as it were. they are going to try to get back out on their front foot. today the president marking the two-year anniversary of his inauguration, trying to put a spotlight back on his accomplishments. we also really haven't seen the kind of drip, drip of new

revelations that we seem to be getting even at the beginning of this week. and so there's a sense there that now they're a little bit more comfortable talking about and more flatly denying it as you heard the president say, no there-there and they're entering a period where they feel like they can continue to manage this while trying to get more of their message out on other issues. >> the president saying i have no regrets, but not specifically answering our mentioning one of the still outstanding questions that there is and that is why the administration waited two months after those documents, that first batch was found and why it was -- them responding to press reports, especially. >> certainly the administration adhering to its argument that it was reluctant to speak out before, of course, the press first reported the discovery, because they didn't want to be seen as interviewing with what they had hoped frankly would be a brief doj review of their handling of this to discover that this was simply a little bit of carelessness as they were packing up the office. but it also -- it's -- you could argue there's a conflict between the president saying he has no

regrets about how he's handled this with his also stated comments in the initial remarks he made last week, that he takes the handling of classified documents seriously. if he has no regrets on how this is handled, it speaks to a desire that perhaps there should have been a more careful handling of these documents in the first place. >> what is your reaction on the president's comments and, again, that saying that he said he has no regrets? do you think that will answer -- be enough for allies who have been wanting him to say more? >> yeah, i think it's important that the president spoke out on it. obviously they didn't want to speak out right away because an investigation is under way and they've handled it appropriately with the department of justice. this is a president who cares deeply about the independence of the doj and you see the deference to the doj, you see the doj that's empowered and you see an appointment of a trump

holdover to oversee this review. and the important thing here is, this is night-and-day difference from what donald trump has done, right? intentionally concealing documents, that number is something over 325 and in this case you have what appears to be a very honest mistake and quick action by the biden administration to get out ahead of this. we just heard, it did take two months. compare that to the trump group and trump and those folks took nine months before this really came to light. so much shorter time period and appropriate handling, i think, up to this point by the white house. >> and certainly the situations between the two presidents are incredibly different. but per your point that the president wants to make it look they're operating with completely independent of the doj, we do know that somebody within the doj did say, we haven't told the white house not to address this, not to talk about it. >> yeah, and so that's a great point. what you really have here are

two separate tracks, right, there's a legal issue, and that is under way, and because there's a real fire wall between the white house and the west wing and the doj, no one is telling the other one not to say or do anything. again, this is a very independent doj under president biden. the fear that i have as someone who does campaign work and who helped with the election of president biden is, you don't want, as mike said, to have this drip, drip, drip. it's the problem we had in 2016. every time we get ahead with proactive messaging, we had a drip, drip, drip, the handling now is exactly right and we're not going to see that drip. some of the hypocrisy in congress where you're going to have folks who -- when it was donald trump's turn, they called it a joke and there was nothing there and folks were trying to make, you know, a mountain out of beans. but now they're singing a different tune. you have marjorie taylor greene and extremists like that calling for impeachment and is they'll try to distract from their own problems because of this.

that's the fear that i have. >> steve, the president halfway through his first term. you've been comparing president biden to other presidents at their halfway points. what have you learned? >> we've been taking a look at different recent presidents, what did the next two years look like, what lessons could potentially be drawn. let's take a look this time at the presidency that joe biden is familiar with, barack obama's presidency. biden the vice president. this is january of 2011. this is the halfway point of barack obama's first term. and something similar, a dynamic similar in that first term for barack obama that joe biden now faces and that is, this is obama delivering his first state of the union in his third year in office and there was a new republican speaker of the house. john boehner. republicans had a big year in 2010. they won 63 seats in the house. won that control of it. republican speaker, there is a republican speaker as well.

the midterm election for democrats and joe biden wasn't quite as lopsided, wasn't nearly as lopsided as it had been against obama in 2010. nonetheless, both biden now and obama then had that dynamic and have that dynamic of a republican control of the house. barack obama came into that year, his average approval rating was just under 50%. joe biden's right now is 42.8%. so biden's approval rating is lower. and the big story of that second two years of obama's presidency were the confrontations between obama and john boehner and the republicans in the house. the early months of that relationship, that governing relationship were marked by efforts on both sides to show an attempt of compromise, the grand bargain. there was obama and john boehner. they took golfing trips together. but that didn't really get anywhere. and meanwhile, there was then as

there is now a clock ticking down when it came to the debt ceiling and a potential default on the debt. and there were attempts, all sorts of attempts at negotiations. there was a lot of tension within republican party, the tea party side calling for pretty dramatic cuts. john boehner trying to balance their interests with the potential compromise with obama. the democrats came all the way down to the wire in the summer of 2011, right to the brink of a potential default on the debt. and this is what happened. >> all right. >> reporter: just seeing that tired look on house speaker's john boehner's face captured the grueling end game of this debt ceiling crisis. >> it's very frustrating to all americans. >> have a seat. have a seat. >> reporter: after the deal was announced sunday night, the president made a point to give special credit to the public. >> it's been your voices, your letters, your emails, your

tweets, your phone calls that have compelled washington to act in the final days. >> they averted the default back then that obviously already looming as a potential major issue here in the first months of 2023. and, of course, how did it all end up for barack obama politically? this is something that joe biden would like to emulate, obviously. obama was re-elected, those divisions in the republican party were something that was difficult for the ultimate republican nominee mitt romney to navigate in the primary and the general election and obama was able to exploit a lot of those difficulties mitt romney had and obama ultimately two years after that shellacking in the midterm election, was able to win re-election. we'll see if that's something that joe biden is able to emulate in two years. >> steve, feels like that golf picture is really a throwback, a time of yesteryear, a different

place in american politics. my thanks to all of you. breaking news this morning, fueling new fears across the tech industry, early this morning google's parent company alphabet announced it will layoff 12,000 employees. more than 6% of its workforce. the layoffs are just the latest in a string of cuts from companies like meta, amazon and microsoft. so far, more than 190,000 jobs have been cut by tech firms in the last year, according to layoffs fyi which tracks cuts in the industry. joining me now morgan brennen and roben farzad. walk us through what's happening at alphabet and how this already adds to the troubling round of layoffs in the industry. >> yeah, lindsey, the cuts, the job cuts are mounting, at least in tech. alphabet now joins a list that includes meta, twitter, salesforce, amazon with 18,000 job cuts earlier this week.

microsoft also just earlier this week announcing 10,000 job cuts. so in the case of alphabet, specifically, it's about 6% of the worldwide workforce as you mentioned. it's the largest ever round of layoffs and the ceo of alphabet saying that he takes full responsibility for the decisions that led us here. generous severance package for what it's worth. it also speaks to the fact that you are starting to see some smaller names begin to issue layoffs too, just wayfair, for example, the e-commerce company wayfair, earlier this morning, belts tightening, basically. we saw all of these companies expand and expand dramatically during the pandemic. now they're starting to pull back with these workforce reduction announcements. >> the ceo sent a letter to staff saying -- kind of echoing morgan's point there. over the past two years we've

seen periods of dramatic growth. how much has changed and did these companies grow too fast too much? >> let me quickly say that i have nothing but love for msnbc, but how do you expect me to be coherent after, like, charismatic stuff from steve kornacki, you guys got to give me a bumper or something. >> how do you think i feel? >> look, these companies had amassed trillions of dollars of market cap. if you think about the y2k market boom, that was tiny with what we experienced. free money, crypto, nfts, it was whatever you wanted to make of it, and hiring got out of control, recruiting, marketing, selling general administrative. if you see a company like google with, what, 150, 160,000 employees, facebook, meta, microsoft, all of them are going to want to prune at the margins and i'm not saying that to sound callus or mercenary. but when their stocks are down

significantly, they're all publicly traded. they don't like to say we're kowtowing to wall street, but they have to keep a high profit margin. of course it's going to ebb and flow. and you have a moonshot wing of the company where they might be less apt to go out and do research and development and funky things in solar and rockets or whatever it is that they're doing and they want to get back to the core knitting of internet advertising which is in a slump right now. so it's understandable. >> morgan, we mentioned 190,000 jobs cut across the tech industry since the start of 2022. do you see this extending into other areas of business? >> that's the key question. anybody who is focused on the economy is asking right now and it's certainly something that federal reserve officials are focused on as they look to ease what is a very tight labor market right now and to help bring down inflation which i know we talk about on a near

daily basis. right now so far, many of these layoffs are focused in the tech sector and you do have folks like the ceo of microsoft earlier this week talking about slowing economic growth, recessionary fears being part of the reason that they're starting to use -- to use that word prune, prune their workforce and the size of it. similar, not quite as strong language this morning from alphabet, but certainly a sense that there's a refocusing on areas of innovation that are going to drive these companies and drive the revenue streams of these companies forward. key area, for example, being artificial intelligence. that was very much in focus for google, for alphabet this morning, as well as for microsoft in its announcement earlier this week. microsoft is investing in a little app that maybe you've heard of, chat gpt. looking to try and take on more of that business against the likes of alphabet. so far for the most part, many of the layoffs have been focused

in tech with the exception maybe of some bank layoffs that we're starting to hear about. most notably at goldman sachs. >> thank you, both. up next, we are live at the first march for life since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade and it comes as we're learning more about the investigation into who leaked the dobbs draft decision. details ahead. plus, what defense secretary lloyd austin said moments ago about the massive new round of aid to ukraine. and the criminal charges that prosecutors are pursuing in the "rust" shooting. >> do you think someone should go to prison over all of the evidence you've reviewed? >> what the da is saying about that and alec baldwin's claim he did not pull the trigger. s claie did not pull the trigger of course. you can easily get helpful customer service over the phone or on the progressive app pretty much anywhere. like at the coffee shop, at the park, or on the moon. just kidding. it's another coffee shop.

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right now, crowds of antiabortion rights activists are gathering for the annual march for life rally in washington. here's a live look at the prerally concert at the national mall. this year's event will feel very different from year's past. it's the first since the supreme court struck down the institutional right to an abortion. when it overturned roe v. wade. also this morning, the white house is blasting former president trump after he called for the arrest of the journalist who reported on the leaked draft opinion of the bombshell decision if they wouldn't reveal their sources. the supreme court announced yesterday it wasn't able to conclusively identify who was

responsible for the leak. marissa parra is in washington ahead of the rally and our senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell is at her post, jonathan allen is also with us with new reporting on trump and his relationship with evangelical community. the rally is expected to start at noon eastern. what can we expect and what are you hearing from people on both sides? >> good afternoon to you. you can tell, it is fully under way, the concert just started within the last half-hour or so here. and so what you can see is that even though we have a world post-roe, they are still marching. they say as long as abortions are still happening, they will keep taking to the march. and so when it comes to how both sides are feeling, the consensus here is that when it comes to both supporters and opponents of abortion rights, they say that the dobbs ruling was truly galvanizing because for them the fight is far from over. >> we've got a long way to go.

so perhaps instead of saying that we've reached our goal, a better way of saying this would be we're in the next season. >> there's a lot of confusion about what is safe, what we're able to do. when i say safety, i mean legally safe now that abortion is banned. >> reporter: so in every single wave, a conversation around abortion has changed since march for life first started. remember, this is the 50th anniversary on sunday of roe v. wade. and so march for life was started one year after to protest roe v. wade. and so clearly, we're living in a world post-roe, but also the conversation around abortion access has changed. one of the new topics that's at the forefront of discussion is the topic of abortion pills. we know that the fda recently changed their guidance allowing pharmacies to dispense abortion pills and that is something that was seen as a small victory for supporters of abortion rights.

again, their whole platform is creating a space where people in all kinds of communities can get better and easier access to abortions and that was seen as a setback and a disappointment to opponents of abortion rights. as we look to the states, we know sessions are up and coming in session right now. many of them discussing not just abortions, but abortion pills and that is something that a lot of pharmacies around the country are very eager to learn what the guidance will be on that. again, we know we're living in a post-roe world as many of these signs are reflecting here. but the fight on all sides of this far from over. >> the fact that the supreme court could not identify the leaker of the dobbs draft opinion, got the against of the former president and he wrote on truth social, arrest the reporter, publisher, editor, you'll get your answer fast. stop playing games and wasting time. the white house is responding about what trump said. what are they saying? >> reporter: the biden white house reacted to that and we don't always hear a direct

response from this white house to the predecessor on issues like this. but this stood out where, of course, they say that the right of reporters and a free press is a bedrock to democracy and the constitutional rights of reporters must be protected. so part of what the statement from deputy press secretary anthony bates says calling for an egregious abuses of power in order to suppress the institutional rights of reporters is an insult to the rule of law. that gives you a sense of the tone of how the biden white house is responding to the former president. of course, donald trump has a lot of influence on these events because his three nominees to the court, his appointees, strengthen that conservative bloc on the supreme court that led to the decision in dobbs that overturned the

constitutional right to abortion. and so he feels a direct connection to that. at the same time there are people on the political right who believe that the leak may have been done to try to provoke anger toward those conservatives. others believe in the conspiracy space of who is responsible to this without an answer, perhaps it was done by someone on the right to try to harden that position before the final outcome of the opinion was made public. so not having an answer from the court's investigation leaves open that space of not knowing why it happened, what the motivations were, and could it happen again? those are ongoing questions. on the matter of jailing reporters who legally published what was the draft document, that is something that the biden white house says cannot go without a response and so you heard that swift and really fulsome comment from the biden white house against the former president. >> kelly mentioned the

appointment of conservative justices. we know that helped trump with evangelicals in 2016. but you have a report that that relationship is growing strained. >> absolutely. in talking to pastors around the country, basically there is a moving away from trump among evangelicals. and the root of it is that he lost and there's a fear that joe biden could win re-election if donald trump is renominated. and the tension is starting to break out into the open. we've seen donald trump since the midterm election blame antiabortion activists and republican leaders who supported all-out bans on abortion, rather than ones with exceptions. that frustrated some in the circle. and then we saw him this week say that evangelical leaders that have not endorsed him are showing disloyalty to him. of course, the response from

trump world is kind of the one -- the broader world may have is that donald trump appointed those three supreme court justices. it's hard to quarrel with his position on abortion. i don't think it's so much that they are quarrelling with this position on abortion, but more that they're concerned about what happens in the future if donald trump is unable to win the presidency again or republicans nominating him at a time when he can't win. republicans still say that donald trump is the leader among evangelicals in terms of who gets the most support and it would probably take somebody else being able to unify the support behind them. one single candidate in order for this to make a big difference in the 2024 republican primary. >> all right. thank you. next, what prosecutors are telling nbc news about the charges against alec baldwin in the shooting on the "rust" movie set. plus, newly unsealed court

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this morning, prosecutors and defense attorneys are gearing up for a long legal fight after a new mexico district attorney announced she will charge actor alec baldwin with involuntary manslaughter for the shooting death of cinematographer halyna hutchins on the set of the movie "rust." new mexico prosecutors say they knew, quote, pretty close to the beginning of their investigation that they'd bring criminal charges and they say they're confident they will win in court. vaughn hillyard has been covering every aspect of this case. what else is the district attorney saying and what defense are we already hearing? >> this is going to come down to the evidence that the district attorney and special prosecutor are able to bring forward. yesterday was an announcement that the charges will not be filed, but we should not expect to see the actual charges in the presenting evidence put forward closer to the month's end here. i want to let you listen to a little bit of a conversation that our own miguel almaguer had with the district attorney just yesterday about the actual shooting incident.

take a listen. >> alec baldwin said he never pulled the trigger on the handgun that fired. do you believe that? >> that's not true. and we know that from the fbi lab report. that gun would not have fired without the trigger having been pulled. the gun was in his hand when he pulled the trigger and that was the main action that killed halyna hutchins. that said, there are other people on that set that day that should have caught that gun and made sure that i didn't have live bullets in it. >> what you hear the district attorney laying out, they feel like they have the evidence to make the case that he, in fact, pull it had trigger. alec baldwin has been defiant in saying that's not the reality, that's not what happened. the santa fe sheriff's office, they sent that firearm to the fbi for a forensic look at this firearm. and the fbi in its report said when it was pulled back, when the hammer was docked back at the quarter or half positions there, it could not be made to

fire without a pull of the trigger. but later on when they're talking about when it was put into the fully cocked position, they noted, there were limitations of the forensic testing say it may not be possible to duplicate all of the circumstances which led to the discharge of a firearm without a pull of the trigger. that is where for the defense of alec baldwin there is an opening here. because they went and looked at this particular firearm and it malfunctioned when they were going to the testing of it which alec baldwin had made the case that he did not pull the trigger and it's going to be up to the prosecution to pull that. it's going to be a major sticking pointed here. of course, he should never have pointed the gun and everybody could agree upon that toward halyna hutchins' direction here. but there are question marks here. >> we'll clearly learn a lot more in the coming days. thank you so much. turning to the investigation surrounding the january 6th attack on the capitol.

newly unsealed court documents reveal three active duty marines who work in intelligence were arrested this week. they're facing federal charges. ken dilanian joins me now with more on their arrests. how is the fbi able to find and identify these marines? >> lindsey, they learned about the marines after one of them posted photos on his instagram page with the caption, glad to be a part of history. agents matched images of all three of the marines with their official military i.d. photos and they were arrested on wednesday, each charged with four misdemeanor accounts. one of the his detachments -- one was named the student of the month in north carolina and the complaint says another one of these marine expressed support for the boys. and, lindsey, stepping back, at

least one in five of the capitol riot defendants served in the military and at least five other active duty service members have been charged in this case, a number of current and former law enforcement officers have also been accused of being part of the capitol riot. >> we're hearing from one of the faces of the january 6th attack, richard barnett who was photographed with his feet on nancy pelosi's desk. what is he saying about that day? >> barnett who is pictured in perhaps the most infamous photo look the stand in his own defense in his trial on multiple felony charges and he says he regrets being at the capitol. he said it's not worth the pain it has caused he and his family. he told jurors he was looking for a bathroom when he was looking for pelosi's office. he added that he would apologize to pelosi if she was in front of him. at the time i thought it was funny, but now it seems crass. he said he regretted the disrespect he showed to police

officers. but he did not say he regretted entering the capitol. his cross-examination is ongoing this morning. >> thank you. the number of inconsistencies and denials surrounding freshman congressman george santos are growing. the latest centers on a photo that appears to show santos dressed in drag with another performer. nbc news spoke with a brazil journalist who said he interviewed santos at a pride parade in brazil and the journalist is confident that santos is the person he interviewed and this photo shows the same person. santos tweeted yesterday saying it is false that he performed in drag. of course we wants to mention, there isn't anything wrong with performing drag, but these inconsistencies are putting more attention for the growing calls for santos to lie about his job, education and religious background. ali vitali is keeping up with

the updates. including some of the legislation, the "don't say gay" bill in florida that he has backed and the fact that he's denying this. >> reporter: i think it's important for both of those reasons. it's another inconsistency, he's saying he never performed in drag and our team was able to simple with both the brazil drag queen who said she was a mentor to santos when he was coming up in the drag scene and the journalists said they met up with santos and interviewed him at a pride parade in brazil. both of those things stand in contrast to what santos is saying and to the policy perspectives that he himself has aligned with. he has pushed and supported anti-lgbq-plus legislation, the likes we've seen in florida, and so it's an inconsistency from a photography and bio perspective, we've seen those before, but it's an inconsistency that plays into a larger conversation

around policy and around the republican party right now. >> ali, i want to talk to you real quick, is this -- i don't know if you've been able to talk to any lawmakers here. i know you're deeply sourced here. does this have any bearing on the how they view santos starting in this new congress. >> probably not. probably this won't be the thing that pushes the republicans over the edge and saying, all right, now enough is enough. many of the sources that i've spoken to here -- this is a week where congress is out of session. we haven't seen many lawmakers, though, you have to imagine when they come back next week, this is going to be a question that's top of mind because it's become unsustainable to have all of these stories, some of them ranging from lies to actual things with legal possibility of exposure behind them, it's the campaign finance stuff, though, as i talk to my sources that could ultimately push republican leadership on this. if santos were to be indicted, that would be something that would be hard for leaders to ignore here. other than that, though, they're going to try to, i think, push

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tank, it's called the leopard, it's used very widely by allies throughout the nato alliance. because it is german manufactured, nobody can send it to ukraine without germany's permission and that is not a step the germans are prepared to take at this point. there's a couple of reasons for that. the chancellor of germany under pressure from the left of his party to not escalate in ukraine. german is much more vulnerable to russian retaliation. russian provides so much of the energy. there's concerns also, you must western tanks on the battlefield, and they're captured by the russians, the russians are going to know all about them. we heard from president zelenskyy at that summit earlier, he was urging the allies to do more. i want you to take a listen just a little bit to what he had to say. >> i can thank you hundreds of times and it will be absolutely just in fear given all that we have already done. but hundreds of thank you are

not hundreds of tanks. all of us can use thousands of words, but i cannot put words instead of guns that are needed against russia artillery. >> reporter: just a couple of minutes ago here in kyiv, they -- three senators who were visiting wrapped up a press conference. they were republican lindsey graham and democrats richard blumenthal and sheldon whitehouse and these senators, partisan group, were unanimous that not only do they want to see the germans send tanks, but they want to see american tanks sent to ukraine also. lindsey graham described the current situation as a clown show but he used an expletive instead of clown. >> what's the u.s. weighing in terms of tanks and what happens if neither the u.s. nor germany supply them? >> lindsey, the question is exactly right. i appreciate what raf just

presented. look, i think what the united states recognizes right now is that this war is in yet another new phase, right? the russians are digging in. they're digging trenches, they're establishing dragon's teeth which is this large number of concrete blocks and barriers being constructed to hinder military vehicles in the east and the south. they're laying mines. they're fortifying their front lines. to breakthrough these defenses, ukrainian forces are right, they need to attack enemy units in a deliberate way. their particular focus is we need tanks. the united states has said, look, we understand you need vehicles, but we really want to supply you with the strikers, the bradleys, other strengthening mechanisms to the air defense systems. why? the americans want to do that because basically what the biden administration says is, look, to enable the ukrainians to

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