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good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now, the white house is mapping a course they hope can deliver a second term for president biden. but to get there, he will have to navigate the political minefield of a republican-led investigation by hard right conservatives. why is one white house official calling it a, quote, political gift? plus nbc news confirms the director of the cia traveled to kyiv to meet with president
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zelenskyy last week. that meeting comes at a critical juncture for the war amid new questions about the quantity and quality of u.s. support. and exactly what specifically makes the new mexico da so sure about the charges against alec baldwin, that could land him in prison for years. >> it wasn't that we were trying to charge him with a felony. it's that what his actions did matched the case law for involuntary manslaughter. but let's start exactly two years out from inauguration day, seeing the early contours of the presidential strategy, that the white house hopes will get joe biden back to the oval office for a second term. the goal to spotlight pooud's legislative achievements of the past 18 months and contrast that with what a white house spokesman predicted would be republicans divorce from reality political stunts. to that end, politico reports
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the administration is giddy that only soft of the biggest bomb throwers are now on the oversight committee believing they are ideal figure heads for a white house eager to derive the opposition party as unhinged. but for the plan to work, the administration needs to maintain its own credibility, an effort that's threatened by classiied document, even if the president himself doesn't think so. >> we're fully cooperating ask looking forward to getting this resolved quickly. you'll find there's nothing there. i have no regretstology what lawyers have told me they want me to do. that's what we're doing. there's no there there. thank you. >> mike memoli is white house correspondent. jake sherman is cofounder of punchbowl news. jonathan lemire is an msnbc political analyst ask host of "way too early." and matthew dowd is a senior
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political analyst. i want to parse what the president said. he said you're going to find there's nothing to this, but he has no regrets about the way this unfolded. does the administration acknowledge they maybe could have and arguably should have dealt with this differently from the start? >> reporter: white house officials continue to insist that they had had to handle things the way they handled them. they did not want to be seen as potentially interfering with the ongoing justice department review, but it's clear they had hoped that review would be all but wrapped up in the early stages as they insist that this was largely just a bit of carelessness on the part of former staff packing up the then vice president's office in 2017. but clearly now, the white house feels that they are ending the week in a different place than where they began this week, as it's been put there was a full boil of a crisis on tuesday as we still were dealing with a
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drip, drip of new revelations about additional documents and additional pages being found. now they are trying to -- you see this in the president's comments yesterday, they are trying to pivot away from this back to what they had hoped to spend this month doing, which is to try to highlight the contrasts with the new republican congressional majority as they look to the next two years and potentially to a reelection campaign. we're going to see as the president spoke yesterday after having dodged reporters questions for eight previous instances put to him, the press secretary will be tested again as she's about to previous reporters. he's bringing a special guest with her. it's the spokesperson for the national security council. we'll see the white house trying to talk about both on the foreign policy basis ask domestic policy. what they believe are their plushments two years into the administration as they look coming up to the anniversary of the invasion of ukraine in the ways in which president biden in
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their view has united allies in the deterrence of russia's invasion there. so it's an interesting effort on the part of the white house to get back on the front foot, but we're still going to be seeing additional questions raised on a daily basis as more revelations are coming in. >> you wrote the article, and i want to read more where an official told you, quote, we are clear eyed about the kind of scorched tactics and mud fighting they want to engage in. we are going to follow the law and the rules of the game and won't shy away from calling him out for flag rantly assaulting fact themselves. so they want to argue the facts of the investigation, but still kind of stay above the fray. how complex is it to try to do both of those things? >> it's going to be a delicate balancing act. this has been their hope this entire year. to project themselves as the adults in the room.
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staying away from some of the headlines and controversies. they were dealt a blow with the discoveries of classified documents. they have been more assertive about how they are talking about it recently and to draw a sharp contrast between what was found in the home and the penn center here in d.c. versus the case with donald trump. hundreds of documents at mar-a-lago and attempts to fight the efforts to retain them. for former the. but in terms of the members of the house oversight committee, they think this is a real opportunity. and you don't want to celebrate too soon, but they feel like the marjorie taylor greene, the lauren boebertss of the world all election deniers, and all the white house says threats in democracy also think they are politically a gift that these radicals are going to be unable to help themselves. they are going to play to the
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cameras and grand stand and play for their districts and national fundraising audiences and appear out of step for the american people. to turn off a lot of voters. and they think that though no investigation is fun, no oversight committee is fun for a white house, they think there's going to be political opportunity here. >> they understand the conservatives are going to do exactly what they said they were going to do. investigate and investigate some more. a lot of this is going to feel personal to this president. or personal to his family like the hunter biden investigation. you're never going to get a joe biden not to think like a dad. but you have run political campaigns so you want your candidate to speak and act sometimes in a different way. what would be your advice in a situation like that when he's got all this incoming? >> i think the reason the adult
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in the room, and i understand the white house and the staff's celebration of the chaos in the house and how it could have political benefit. i don't think that's what they should be doing. though i understand it. they should be focusing on we're the adults and this is the damage that what's going on in the house could do to you, the american citizen. this is what i would be saying this is a dangerous situation where they put in power people that do not support our constitutional democracy, who do not want to act in any reason to common good way, and that's detrimental to the american public and what we need to get done. i get the celebration part of politics, but i think the best politics is to be serious and calm and show what having this going on in the house is going to be a detriment to the american public. >> there's another part to this.
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it's important for the white house to be able to successfully contrast themselves with house republicans or donald trump, yes, but to do that they need to maintain their own credibility. i want to read from a "new york times" op-ed because it says, quote, the optical equivalence between trump and biden is phoney, of course. but many voters with better things to do with their time than parse the nuances of presidential recordkeeping may casually conclude that both men are careless, lying politicians and goes on to argue that the story has cost biden maybe the benefit of the doubt going forward. but if the white house is dead set against talking about this case, how do they change that perception? >> wait until the investigation is over and hope it comes out in their beof half. uh-uh think this does raise questions -- to the extent someone is paying attention, i'm not sure everyone is paying attention to this document back
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and forth. maybe they are. maybe they are not. but think that op-ed is right. if one is doing it, the other is doing it. i agree with matthew here that the argument that worked for obama in 2012 was that the house is so concerned with issues you're hurting where are they on these issues? we have these bills. they are not acting on it. instead they are investigating. that is not to say that the house oversight judiciary, all these committees are not going to come up with things that are embarrassing to the president. they probably are. but they are also going to overstep. there's also opportunity for this white house but you can't overshoot it. these investigations are overdon't. they are they do overreach. but they do they do find an embarrassing tid bit about the
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target. so those two dynamics are not paying attention. they are investigating. and they are not doing what the american people want. and that is what the president is going to focus on given his own experience in the obama administration. >> for republicans maybe in the 2024 race, we heard nikki haley suggest she very well maybe run of them. take a listen. >> when you're looking at a run for president, you look at two things. you first look at does the current situation push for new leadership. the second question is, am i that person that could be that new leader? yes, we need to go in a new direction. can i be that leader? yes, i think i can be that leader. >> what's do you think? are there going to be a lot of challengers for the nomination on the republican side? and if so, what are they waiting for?
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>> well, as everybody knows on this panel, it takes a bit of delusion to run for president of the united states in this country. it takes a sense of delusion for even the best of people. she has a serious amount of delusion in this. she also went on in that interview to say i have never lost a race before so i'm prepared. i would remind her that the presidential political field is littered with people that have never lost a race before. and i could remind her of scott walker in 2016, ted cruz this 2016, chris christie in 2016, rick perry in 2016, all of which had never lost a race before. >> not to interrupt you, but interrupting you. the guy who won the office and is in it right now lost several times. and he's the one who is president now. >> that's the other part.
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think about the last 40 or 50 years. reagan lost before he ran and won. both bushes ran and lost before they ran and won. bill clinton ran and lost a race before he won. and barack obama ran and lost a race before he won. so the reality is it sometimes is better to have run and lost and learned what you did or did not do right or wrong, but i think nikki haley is polling exactly where liz cheney is polling in the republican primary. i don't see a lot of people giving liz cheney a chance to win the republican primary. >> thank you all. jonathan is going to come back in a bit. apart from the ever present politics, a candidate biden in 2024 will have to answer the question of his age. biden set the mark for the oldest president this u.s. history at 78. that is older than ronald reagan was when he left office after two terms. remember this? >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for
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political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> steve kornacki is msnbc's national correspondent and one of the most famous, most effective quips in american political modern history. but the age comparison with biden is really interesting as well as an economic comparison when you look at him against reagan. >> we have been looking at different modern presidents. what came in the next two years politically. let's zoom in on ronald reagan. this is january of '83. this is the start of the second half of his first term there delivering his state of the union address. reagan's approval rating, a lot of people forget it was very low early this presidency. the country was in a recession. 39.8% with reagan's approval rating half way through his presidency. biden's is 42.8%. so not much difference. and reagan before biden, the
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last the president where there were serious questions asked throughout the first couple years of his presidency about would he run again, would he run for reelection or be too old. would he have to be a one-term president. it dominated the political conversation. this was from 1983. this is an nbc news report. you can see we have a clip here. this is what the political conversation was like at the start of the second of half of reagan's first term. >> will the president run for another term? the pressure is on him to say what he will do. several democrats are getting set to begin their campaigning, so republicans are standing by knowing whether i thaw ought to be raising money. will he run? we have been asking that question. >> i am trained to say, yes, of course, he will run. >> one democratic official has bet $1,000 that reagan won't run again. >> having said the fact i assume he will run, i can't imagine why he would run again. >> it's a big question this washington these days. will he or won't he?
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why wouldn't he run? he would be 78 years old. reagan's down in the polls and could lose the next election. the republicans could very well lose the senate in 1984 making him a much weaker chief connective. . >> that was in '83. reagan did end up running for reelection. the democrats nominated a former vice president and the big thing that changed between that clip from '83 and election night '84 was the economy completely turned around. unemployment was falling. growth was surging. reagan ended up winning a landslide reelection. we live in a much more polarized country than we did in 1984, but i do think there's some interesting parallels. when you look at joe biden, the economy has dragged him down the last two years. if it can turn around, reagan proved that going to the a age of 78 as president ended up not
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being too old in voters' minds. could biden push that number into the 80s? he may test it in a way reagan did all those decades ago. >> 22 months this political years is still a long time between now and election day. steve kornacki, thank you so much. new denials from scandal-ridden congressman george santos. the new criticism aidesed to the laundry list of allegations against him. plus the "rust" shooting investigation. why prosecutors say they knew early they would file charges. and anti-abortion protesters take over d.c. as we approach the 50th anniversary of roe v. wade and the one year mark since its demise. you're. watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. ssnbc help make trading feel effortless and its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market with powerful, easy-to-use tools power e*trade makes complex trading easier react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting
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he was glad to be a part of it and that he was waiting for a second civil war. ken dilanian covers justice and intelligence for nbc news. so ken, who exactly are these guys and what do they do? >> so they are enlisted marines. they are noncommissioned officers with important jobs in intelligence roles. one of them is an intelligence analyst where the national security agency is head quartered and the fbi got on to them when one of them posted photos of himself at the capitol boasting about being there and then the fbi gradually pieced together the case compared those photos with military i.d.s and established cell phone records. they are now charged with four dmerns each reaching the capitol. the marines say they are cooperating with the investigation and they are part of a larger group around 12% of the more than 950 capitol defendants have some kind of affiliation with the miliary, mostly veterans. five are act tiff duty military
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have been been charged with being at the capitol. but again, these three marines charged with misdemeanors, under arrest. we're not aware they have any lawyers. they haven't made any statements, but according to the fbi, they were present during the capitol insurrection. >> ken dilanian, thank you for that. add potential hi accuracy to the growing list of controversy surrounding george santos. two sources believe this video from a 2007 gay pride parade shows santos in drag, which is not a crime, but the embattled congressman supports antilgbtq legislation. and he tweeted that the claims are categorically false. nbc news reached out for further comment from santos but has not heard back. let's bring in ali vitali on capitol hill. jonathan lemire is back with us. jonathan, democrats say the issue is not about drag. it's what they see as potential
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hypocrisy. george santos voiced support for the don't say gay bill. he's aligned himself with some of the most hard right lawmakers who have seen the drag community as an object of danger, of scorn. he is married to a man. but politically, what's his play here? >> it's an attempt to stay in powe and cozy up to interests on the right. he's feeling where the wind is blowing. there are a number of republicans who embraced the anti-lgbtq legislation, who have turned drag queens into an object of scorn, as you say. at times, even a target for violence. for santos, it's the latest bit of ypocrisy and another lie, which we can add to the lengthy list that involves everything from how his mother died, claiming it was during september
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11th when she was a continent away or something about being on a championship volleyball team when he didn't play volleyball or even attend the school. just yet another moment where he's in the headlines. and yet to this point, though some fellow republicans, including some from new york state where he's from, have called for him to resign, leadership is sticking by him. that's because.com doesn't have a vote to spare. >> making claims that are easy to check like where you went to college. the house has been in recess since last thursday. let me tell you all of the santos developments that have come out just while they were gone. he said he will resign if 142,000 people asked him to. we learned his mother was not in the u.s. on september 11th. accused him of cheating out of funds for his dying dog. now the claims that he performed as a drag queen. we have talked all week about whether there's some kind of
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cumulative effect of the lies and accusations or maybe a numbness. but what will you be looking for when congress comes back next week? sfwlr taking the temperature really. as congress was going out of session before this past week, most of the freshmen delegation said they theed santos to resign. these are all the folks elected in the same 2022 cycle from the same state as george santos. but leadership, as john mentioned, has been mum on this. kevin mccarthy is playing a numbers game. they don't want to push this to a special election where they could likely lose, especially when all our correspondents who have gone there shows an anti-santos sentiment because they feel like they have been lied to. that's nothing to say of all the lies we know about from before this past week. so i do think a the a certain point it becomes -- you can't continue going like this. it becomes unsustainable. as republicans get back in town,
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that's the question that we have to ask. as they try to move forward, pushing an agenda, they have to start in the early phases of the debt ceiling negotiations. they want to start movering on oversight and investigations. that's what republicans will the message to be coming out of the first weeks of a republican majority. they are not going to want the it to be the latest in the george santos saga, which is frankly what it has been for the last several weeks. so that might be unsustainable. whether or not it actually pushes the majority of the conference to say he should resign, doubt it. but what could is if there's actual legal charges if he were to get indicted on campaign finance. that's the line most sources have drawn because then it becomes impossible to continue to say he should be a member of congress. the rest of it might be inconvenient, but it might not be enough. >> i get that legal charge part of it. i do also wonder the first thing that al ali talked about that if he starts to overshadowed
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attention they want to have, when does that reach a breaking point? or does it give the house mored toer to talk about the chaos, what they see as the lack of ethics on the other side? i'm curious what your take is or what you've been hearing. >> reporter: george santos is a really popular goi. he's an easy punch line and they can point to how the republican party has become this natural evolution and extension of donald trump another character who lied all the time. it was his lies about the election that led to the violence on january 6th. and inspired election deniers from coast to coast. so santos is someone they can point to and say, yeah, he's one of them. for republicans, if they are able -- if it there was a day that would go by that a lie didn't emerge, we could test the
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theory that he wouldn't be a distraction and he becomes another back bencher. the fact he's continuously makes news, that overshadows the message they want the. the list is long. and santos gets in the way of that, that would be the issue. if he does step aside in the wake of a criminal charge or not in a special election, it would be difficult to see republicans winning that right now and the margin is so slim, mccarthy may be relctant to force him out. >> thank you both so much. have a good weekend. the u.s. rolls out another massive aid package for ukraine amid a heated debate over european tanks to kyiv. why that could be a gauge gaim changer during this critical juncture in the war, next. juncture in the war, next. if you have a date, a day off, or a double shift.
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new questions are emerging about exactly what the assistant director from the set of "rust" must know. he made a deal with prosecutors in their case against alec baldwin and the film's armer on charges of involuntary manslaughter. >> david halls wanted to take responsibility for his actions. >> he's going to describe exactly what happened that day from his perspective. he will talk about the scene and the movie set and different things that were happening and weren't happening. >> joining me now onset is msnbc legal analyst danny sa va lis. many people didn't think he was going to get charged here.
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when you see a plea deal with the assistant director, who was there, what questions do you have for him, and how much do you think that deal played into the absolute confidence we heard from the prosecutor yesterday? >> i have been critical of the prosecution i'm a defense attorney, so you have to take this with a grain salt. it was very telling to me that they cooperated one of these potential codefendants. why did they do that? why didn't they go to the guy nobody has ever heard of to cooperate him against another defendant? is alec baldwin a kingpin? no, i think he's just a very high profile celebrity target. what solidified that for me is the interviews saying something to the effect nobody is above the law. you hollywood types, you're too big for your britches. you're just like everybody else. they didn't say those words exactly, but the mess anxious, i
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thought, was clear. i think from the beginning, they had their eye on alec baldwin, even though there were many other people involved this the chain of custody, and now they have charged the person that they always planned to charge. that's why they cooperated a witness in the form of someone who would have been a codefendant. >> the assistant director is veries interesting in it that the lawyers said yesterday, and by the way vaughn hillyard is here as well, said something to the effect of there's no ax to grind. he's going to tell the truth. the question is how much did he see, how much did he know, what's the focus on of his testimony? a lot of people speculated tbt about safety issues on the set. >> i just got back from new mexico yesterday. an expectation that alec baldwin was not going to be charged. that's what was so stunning to see the charges up against him. when you're talking about what the fbi's forensic office,
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looking at the firearm that was used by alec baldwin, it goes to the heart of question of what responsibility does one bear when they pick up a firearm. whether it's a prop on a movie set or not. because the report said that the firearm could thot have discharged a bullet without pulling the truger there. but at the soim point, it says it may not be possible to recreate all the circumstances which led to the dus charge of the firearm. so there's some questions at play here. >> let me play what both sides said. the special prosecutor involved and i'll get your reaction on the other side. take a listen. >> this was something that was more than negligence. it was people acting recklessly, people not doing their jobs, people not following safety protocols ask violating all of the standards that we all have to follow if we have a gun in
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our hands. >> so i think we also have -- do we have the response from alec baldwin what he had to say about that earlier? >> i would never point a gun at anyone ask pull a trigger. never. that was the training i had. you don't point a gun at somebody and pull a trigger. >> that's not true. we know that from the lab report. that gun would not have fired without the trigger being pulled. >> that's what they have to navigate. >> this is why people never, ever, sit down and talk to law enforcement and don't give interviews and no matter how many times people say it, people like alec baldwin in this example go and do it. that's a very damaging statement. because the reality is had he just said i never pulled the trigger, you could work with that. but the whole idea of i'm trained to never point a gun at anyone, that hurts his defense. because had he just said i never pulled the trigger, i still think this is a defensible case.
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because the argument then becomes let's say the jury doesn't believe that he didn't pull the trigger let's say he believes the trigger. he didn't believe he was handling a firearm. he didn't believe he was handling something that could send a projectile down range. he thought he was handling a block of plastic. but i have to admit that interview where he adds on i would never. beware of anyone that says i would never. that's character evidence that does not do well. you breng in other evidence. you're telling us the standard of care you would never point a gun at someone and shoot it. that's not helpful. i expect at trial you're going to see that video of that interview. but i have to say about the prosecutor. listen to her interview where she says this was basically people all along the chain who made mistakes and didn't do their job. my argument in response if i'm closing is going to be, the prosecution themselves say this was negligence at many different steps. if that's the case, then alec
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baldwin is 20% responsible. that is not beyond a reasonable doubt. how did i do? >> bringing in the emotional angle. it's matt hutchen, after that interview said when angry because he took no responsibility for his actions. and they had dinner after her passing. so suddenly that's where you're getting at you're going to be likely hearing from family members over the course of the trial here. that's where when it comes to responsibility and negligence involved here, it's not hard not to listen to the husband of the individual who did pass a away. >> vaughn hillyard, danny, thank you so much. our next story might astonish you. the lights at a high school have been on around the clock for nearly a year and a half because nobody can figure out how to turn them off. a lighting system originally intended to save money and energy has utterly failed both thanks to a software glitch
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kirby with a major move by the u.s. against the kager in group. that's a mercenary group that makes up 10% of russian forces fighting in ukraine. >> it's support network. they recognize the threat. there's three strong indications that the war in ukraine is at critically important juncture. officials are meeting to debate sending tanks to kyiv. president zelenskyy is making his ask clear saying, quote, hundreds of thank yous are not hundreds of tanks. the u.s. also just announced its second largest security package, a whop $2.5 billion and we're learning a about a secret meeting that the cia director
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held with zelenskyy in ukraine. i want to bring in raf sanchez from kyiv we're approaching one year since russia invaded ukraine. what are you hearing on the ground about these european tanks, the importance of them and could they potentially have a major impact for the ukrainians who are in that fight? >> reporter: ukrainian officials think so. we met today with the secretary of ukraine's national security council and in his office, he has a big computer where he has a live map of the street by street fighting going on. that city where so much of the fighting is going on. where the mercenaries are involved. and he said this is why we need tanks. and the ukrainians really feel the tanks could make a big difference on the eastern front, especially as russia is regrouping for what maybe a fresh offensive in the coming
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anti-abortion advocates are marching the first march for life rally since the fall of roe. this sunday will mark 50 years since the original 1973 decision and both advocates and critics are still wondering the same thing -- what happens next? we're live from the national mall. i see the crowds are there. talk a little bit about the mood and what the organizers you're talking to are focusing on now. >> yeah. every single will way the conversation around abortion has changed since the last march for life. obviously, we're now living in this post roe world. something reflected all day since we've been out here. we have seen and heard a rallying cry of rejoicing, of applause when people were talking, taking to the stage. we'll move over here to the side. we hear emergency sirens passing through. but we heard resounding applause as people took to the stage saying that we're now in a post roe world.
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we saw lots of signs saying we're part of the post roe generation. obviously, we'll look into whatever is happening here behind us. a lot of people here. and one thing we have noticed is that they're changing the route as well. to reflect this new march for life. again, you know, march for life was started as a result of roe v. wade. it started the year after. what they're doing now is instead of taking to the supreme court alone, they're stopping at the capitol. and what they'll be doing is they'll be marching past the capitol and stopping in between the capitol and supreme court to flekt the key part that both the judiciary and legislation play and what comes next. so let's talk about that. after roe v. wade was overturned, we saw roughly two dozen states either ban or severely restrict abortion access. there are still three states where there is on going legal battles. and that is just with abortion in particular. we talk about what's next,
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abortion access by way of pills is a big part of the conversation. and that is something that i know is going to be a big part of legislative sessions as that happens. back to you. >> we'll be checking in with you through the day. thank you so much for that. and before we go, we want to take a moment to honor someone whose music and lyrics galvanized protesters. legendary singer/songwriter david crosby member of the birds and cross by stills and nags gnash and for his empassioned hits like almost cut my hair wooden chips. he died at 81 after suffering a long illness. his former band mate saying in part, david was fearless in life and in music. here's crosby seven years ago on msnbc's "morning joe" explaining where he gets his inspiration. >> it's usually love. we usually write about love. i do. sometimes it crosses your path
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