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that the next press conference regarding the mass shooting in mass casualty event out in monterrey park, california, will take place 11 am eastern. msnbc will be covering it and i want to thank you for watching the katie phang show. we'll be back next weekend saturday and sunday and velshi starts right now. >> good morning, i'm ali velshi. we are following breaking news right now out of california. law enforcement sources they're confirmed at least ten people are dead after a shooting in monterrey park just east of los angeles. ten others were injured and taken to an area hospital. it happened last night around 10:30 pm local time. li county sheriff's homicide captain andrew meyer described the scene at a press conference just a few hours ago. >> when officers arrived on

scene, they observed numerous individuals with location pouring out of location. screaming and the officers made entry to the location and located additional victims. the monterey park fire department responded to the scene, and treated to the injured. and pronounced ten of the victims deceased at the scene. they suspect fled the scene and remains outstanding. >> i want to get right to nbc news correspondent steve patterson who is live at monterrey park for us. before the sun is up this morning. steve, what more do we know about this? >> yes, l.a.. we've got that information from the briefing an hour or so ago. just to reiterate the numbers, again. ten dead in this mass shooting. at this point. ten more additional wounded and taken to area hospitals in various states of condition ranging from stable to critical condition. the shooting took place in about 10:20 last night.

saturday night. leading into sunday, of course. police still searching for the suspect and saying this is a male shoe near who is outstanding. fled the scene. as you heard in that clip, people pouring out of this business. chaos ensued as police arrived on scene to those gunshots conducting triaging searching for anybody that may have been surviving. and of course, searching for that suspect. this is all made even more troubling by the fact that this community, a heavily asian community, about 65% of monterey park's asian. this was obviously playing host to one of the largest lunar new year festivals. in southern california, if not the country. massive two day event, tens of thousands of people flooding the streets. this would have been after that event. but we now know that the second day of this has been canceled. police have not described the motive, of course, at this

point. it's far too early to find out if this was discriminatory indiscriminate or targeted, or if this will lead to some sort of hate crime investigation. but i think it is important to say, based on the location, of course police are still investigating as they have now for hours and we are seeing it remain as static as it was hours ago. we expect more updates from monterrey park police as well as a look at the sheriff's department. as soon as they tell us any more information about this, we will let you know. one more additional thing to say is that police say they are possibly looking at a second scene in the shooting which does not mean there was a second scene another part of this community, but there may be something related in a second scene. all of that part of the very early investigation. ali. >> keep us posted on anything you learn and we will get you back on here soon as we can. nbc's steve patterson is live for monterrey park in california. turning now to the latest in washington, d.c., new details

are emerging about a new batch of classified documents that have been found in president biden's home in delaware. we learned last night that the justice department found six more items consisting of documents with classified markings during a 13-hour fbi search of biden's wilmington, delaware property. that is according to the white house. by his personal attorney says the enemies appear to be from his time as vice president. as well as his tenure in the united states senate. he served the senate from 1973 to 2009. a source was prompted by the white house itself. not by the justice department. incense who was a special assistant to the president, and spokesman for the white house counsel's, office confirmed to my colleague alicia menendez last night that no search warrant was issued. >> as this process is ongoing and as this process continues, the president and his team are being fully cooperative and making sure that they have access to the information that they need. that is why the prominent

justice was able to go to the house yesterday, conduct a search cooperatively with the attorneys. >> to your point about access, was a search consensual or through awards? >> it was considered co-operative, yes. >> you continue to say the word cooperative, to make sure i'm understanding this correctly. does that mean there was no warrant? >> that is correct. >> now, by his personal attorney bob bauer said in a statement that they had full access to biden's home. here's what we know so far about this investigation. the latest discovery marks the fourth batch of classified items to be found, on the third to be located in biden's wilmington home. on november 2nd, and the attorneys found a small batch of classified records and his former private office at the pen biden center in d.c.. that consisted of more than a dozen documents. following that discovery in november the president's lawyers, in coordination with the justice department, searched both the presidents

residences in wilmington and delaware. biden's aides found the second batch of classified records in the garage of his wilmington home on december 20th. that consisted of a small but unknown number of classified documents. biden's legal team then found more classified heightens items one of the homes in the adjacent rooms on searches on january 11th and 12th, consisting of six pages of classified materials. this all started coming to light about two weeks ago after the discovery of the first two batches of classified documents. attorney general merrick garland appointed a special counsel, robert hur, to investigate the matter. last, week the republican run house judiciary committee announced they had an investigation into his handling of these documents. joined -- is an executive hitter for -- .com who's won a prize for national pointing it is that of the book in deep, the fbi the cia and the truth about america steve deep state.

david, good to. see you thanks for being with. us what you make of this? >> this is another unforced political era by president biden and his lawyers. and look, it is our job to be tough on presidents. these properties should have been thoroughly searched immediately after their first batch of documents were found on the member second. this gives more grist for republican investigators who will exaggerate what has happened here. i do not think biden faces a criminal charge, it is just a now they're error by this administration that helps their political rivals. >> when you say enforced era, the unusual thing about this is that they are different findings in some of the same places. so it becomes confusing as to whether this is a fertile further search where we are turning more stuff upside down or thinking about new places where documents are, and it becomes important to differentiate it from what was going on at mar-a-lago with donald trump. because that was a back and forth with the national

archives and donald trump and his lawyers. but unfortunately, on the surface the still does not look good. >> it doesn't. legally speaking, the difference is that donald trump obstructed the investigation. that is where the possible charges they are investigating. he refused to return the documents, he refused to provide a full inventory and they had to carry out the fbi search to get them. that is why the lawyer was saying last night is that we are cooperating and trying to draw that distinction. but biden said how could this happen back in august when the search at mar-a-lago happened. how could somebody be so irresponsible. and, again we have got to hold him accountable. back to his senate days in 2009. if there was a search carried out of these properties by his lawyers, he is responsible personally, but his legal team, they should have searched every inch of his houses, every inch of his properties, which apparently did not happen

because those were fbi agents who did a more thorough search yesterday. sorry, on friday. and they found six more classified documents. drip drip drip. the more the states in the headlines the more damaging it is to biden and his family. >> on, thursday the president talked about this for the first time listen what he has to say. >> i think you're going to find there is nothing there. i have no regrets. i am following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do which is exactly what we are doing. there is no there there. >> david, to what degree -- i'm just trying to get my head around how this happens. there are some who argue, and we will talk to another lawyer about this in an hour that the way in which documents are classified by the government does sometimes complicate this issue. >> yeah, there is a massive overclassification problem in the u.s. government in the four by president clinton and obama to release it but there is one

estimate that every year as many as 50 million documents are classified in the federal government and there are so many classified documents that the government has trouble keeping track of them. that may have happened in this case. it is bad for citizens and frankly journalists. the more things are classified and they left the public knows about what is happening in a government. so that is a separate issue into debate and there should be reform but right now nothing is automatically declassified for 25 years. experts say it can be classified after ten years. but it is back to ten here and this was the sloppiness. again, the white house chose to keep this secret for nearly two months after the november 2nd -- and it leaked out. so it is a political error over and over by president biden, not illegal activity, as far as i can tell. whereas trump is trying to obstruct things by refusing to hand them over. saying they are hayes and we do

not have any of that so far with biden. but again. this is damaging and i think i necessary. >> david, thank you for your analysis. we appreciate it. he's an executive editor for new york or.com and msnbc contributor. he's also the author of, indeed the fbi the cia and the truth of america's deep state. you know, anywhere we continue to follow the breaking news of california's ten people are dead a time or hospitalized following a mass shooting in monterrey park. we will have the very latest. plus today's the 50th anniversary of the roe v. wade decision but the first anniversary of row since the supreme court overturned last summer. i will talk to nancy north president of the center victor writes about where the center for abortion rights stance on this important issue. busting up my trusty russian oil barrel to explain what we are on with fruit -- crude oil and climate. why something used to change right now. right now. every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns

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abortion laws. we sometimes contradict one another. abortion rights continue to mentor assaults by conservatives who say they want to make a court, quote, unthinkable. there have been several reports of a young woman, cancer, patients and women containing having difficulty containing necessary abortion care because they live in a state with an abortion ban. health care providers in some states are denying abortion until the patient is on the big brink of death because that is the standard that antiabortion lawmakers have created. some pharmacies prepare to dispense abortion bills for the directly to patients for the first time per fda rules. it's a small irony that abortion pills was to become more widely accessible through pharmacies and the whale which was not the case when wright was a law of the land. but without constitutional protection, patients and pharmacists and physicians and other people are exposed to legal risks that did not exist for them to seven months ago as my msnbc colleague marissa

perez discuss with doug hole he was the ceo of the national community of pharmacist association. >> so, you are a pharmacist, a health care provider, you have a patient you are trying to take care of. you are working with other health care providers. and you need to know that your actions are safe. in compliance with the law and with helping that patient and not doing something that is going to run afoul of losing their license and livelihood and also doing anything that would compromise patient care. so we really need that clarity from the states and from federal regulators. >> what do you think the likelihood is that you will get to that clarity? >> pretty low i do not think it is very likely at all. so i think we are going to be operating in this limbo world for quite a while. >> that limbaugh world is where we are at now which is another the burgeoning battlegrounds on this fight for abortion rights in the state supreme courts.

both supporters and opponents of abortion rights but the last several months filing challenges that have been making their way through court systems across this country. oh this week indiana state supreme court held a hearing where guarded a challenge against the states near total abortion ban. meanwhile, in kansas the state's newly inaugurated republican attorney general says that he will challenge a vital kansas supreme sore court case which determines that abortion is protected under the states constitution despite the fact that last august, you will recall, kansans voted on the ballot member that would've added an anti-amendment to its constitution. what is the supporters of abortion rights will have a meeting calling attention to the importance of the supreme court races consequential in determining whether or not abortion will be legal in that state. roe was never fully perfect and the protections were weekend when antiabortion groups attacked its integrity over the years. but i did after a safety net that let nevertheless ensured that americans had the constitutional right to an abortion. joining me now is nancy, north

president and ceo of the center for reproductive rights. which is an organization that is at the forefront in challenging antiabortion legislation across the country. nancy, good morning to you. thanks for being with us. >> good, morning good to be here. >> nancy, there is a lot of it is been fire -- filed in texas federal court trying to ban abortion pills. your organization is flying that cases went even, i own why? >> absolutely. the lawsuit in texas is seeking to ban medication abortion. that is abortion pills, nationwide. they are claiming that more than 20 years ago, when the fda should not have approved medication abortion for use. the reality is, of course, the fda's decision was based on science and medicine. and today, even before the dobbs case, half of women in the united states who had abortions chose to do it with medication abortions. so this would impact not just texas, but they are seeking a

nationwide ban that would affect people in new york, california, illinois and across the country. they filed it in a very conservative judge in texas. so this is one that we need to be paying attention to. because medication abortion is not only the choice of most people who got abortions but also so important in this post-dobbs landscape. >> antiabortion groups, as we discussed, also planning to organize more protests. we saw cbs and other pharmacies in the coming weeks if you ever to stop them from dispensing abortion pills. are you concerned about this new fronts that now abortion providers, pharmacies, are going to be a new target for antiabortion activists? >> i am concerned with all of the ways that they are seeking to achieve their ultimate goal. which is to ban abortion nationwide, intimidate pharmacies out of providing medication abortion. they are doing this because the

fda just made another very important ruling. which is to say that local pharmacies, cvs on your local pharmacies, can decide to be able to provide medication abortion, and again, increasing access to medication abortion is very important. absolutely i am concerned about. idiots at the same time, today such a day of mixed emotions. really, anger at the supreme court has done in dobbs and what it is meaning for people in those 12 states that ban abortion under threat of criminal prosecution. but also, also, very buoyed by what is going on. moments mark today, not just in wisconsin but across the country. vice president speaking at a rally today. tallahassee, florida. and the fact that we have static, but we cannot say enough. the majority of americans do not like what they are seeing. they support access to legal abortion, and we saw that the. polls weather is pushing back in kansas and kentucky about

trying to limit their state constitutional protections, or enshrining them in illinois and california and vermont, which has reproductive autonomy. reproductive freedom. they are now in the constitutions of those states. so it is a day of both concern but also of real energy. to get the rights back. >> there is some progress in some, places as you just. mentioned earlier this, month south carolina supreme court stopped down the state's abortion ban. they said it violated the state's constitution. your organization actually helped in that lawsuit. but just like that texas when you brought, up how much of the south carolina situation is limited to south carolina and how much of it is lessons that can be applied to other states? >> when you have a decision in a state supreme court of course it is applying that states law in that state. but of course judges and courts rely on decisions from other states informing their own

analysis of what is legal in their states constitutions. so to have something like south carolina joining many other states that do protect abortion in their state constitutions, it is a big way in. particularly an area that is going to be so important in the south. for abortion access. >> nancy, good to talk to you this morning thank you for being with us. nancy northam is the president ceo of the central reproductive rights. we are continuing to follow the over networking use of california, where now ten people are confirmed dead after a shooting in monterrey park. law enforcement officials are scheduled to hold another news conference at 11 am eastern, 8 am pacific. monterey park east of los angeles about eight miles east. according to the l.a. county sheriff's apartment the shooting happened at the bar of dance place last night. shooter still at large. so far they have no description of the suspect other than that he is male. getting updates as we get them. up, next united states has 11 new sanctions on the wagner group, and mercenary force

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disinformation governments board whose stated goal is to fight russian disinformation aimed at migrants and the southern border. but within hours of that announcements, republican lawmakers began attacking it online, claiming it would become an orwell in ministry of truth which would infringe on free speech. within two, months the borders resolve but some state governors are turning to fight back against misinformation to varying degrees. just this month, new jersey governor phil murphy signed a bipartisan bill into law making new jersey their first state in the nation to require media literacy education for all students, kindergarten through 12th grade. the acceleration of artificial intelligence generated media, new rapidly evolving tools, manipulating pictures and videos. the need for media literacy and training against misinformation is greater than ever. it is a global, issue and some governments around the world are trying to take action to combat it with varying degrees of success. an ongoing study from the society institute ranks 41 european nations, based on

their resilience to misinformation. finland ranks number one on that list, for the fifth year in a row. finland developed its national goals for media education ten years ago, in 2013. the country made a concerted effort to accelerate that, plan and better their citizens defenses against misinformation. when russia annexed crimea in 2014. finland, which cher is an 830 mile border with russia, saw a sharp increase in pro russian propaganda, anti immigrant rhetoric, and anti nato media. granted, there are key differences between a country like america and finland. finland is small, relatively homogenous. but the facts are working. today, teachers have been linda required to teach media literacy in critical thinking. equipping young students with the schools wouldn't buy false information and bots and deepfake videos. manipulated images, as well as propaganda messages and half truths. the chief communications office for the finish prime minister says, quote, it is not just a government problem. the whole society has been

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who teaches seven eighth and ninth grade in -- finland. and dr. leo pacolet. the deputy director of finland's national audio visual institute would overseas

national media education. i'm so glad to have you both here. to tell us a bit because we're all struggling with this. this is a global issue. i'm hanging on to thread some scraps. if you're doing something -- in finland, i would really like to know what that might be. can you give us some of the tactics that you are using in your classroom to equip these kids to one day be more critical consumers of media. >> sure, well. it all starts with the reading skills. you have to know different kind of text types to recognize them. basically leads us to try to give them tools. how to navigate in the digital world. basically, just i think it's basic stuff that they need to recognize difference between opinion and fact. even if it's a nice thing or one that has been published or something like that. it doesn't mean that it has to be true. you have to think all the ways

that why is this has been made. why has this been published. who has done. it what is the central claim. what is really telling us. stuff like that. that's how we can start it. >> leo, young people obviously are more noble to online misinformation. young people are relatively easy to reach and educate through school. those of us who are not in school are some sort of bolton misinformation. so finland has other programs using libraries as centers in which people who are not students can learn how to identify false and misleading information. talk to me about the difference in these challenges. obviously saw this got students about becomes a little more focused. what's the different challenges in reaching older communities and particularly people who may not be tech native like kids and young adults are. >> you know, you are right. it is a challenge, because most of the adult population hasn't really received the education

that, for example, sara and her colleagues are providing at school. what we try to do is work very closely with a number of different local organizations who work at the grassroots level, with the different age groups. and we do have a growing senior population who are just retiring from, work or who have just retired. and they could be very tech savvy as such. but they never received any kind of information or education about media literacy and disinformation and misinformation. then, on the other hand, one thing that makes our task easier is that for very long time, we have had a very good educational system. and all of this is based on educational system. when education has been provided at school. >> so, let me just talk about some of the specifics that you are teaching kids. identifying texts, discerning between opinion and. fact there is also a video

project that you have, where your students put things together that allow them to get a sense of how many would be manipulated. >> yes, we do that with the videos and also just photos. how it is easy to let something out of the picture, let something out of the video. you never know what is in the background. how many, takes for example, can be made. and also, with all those great acts or programs that are helping us to manipulate the information in the media, really essential that they know how to read the picture, kind of. that is how we. collett >> leo, you mentioned it all starts with the education. you have a strong public education system in finland. a lot of neighboring countries like, yours that is not our strength in america. we have a very public education,

system in some places it is very good in some cases very bad. is that the basis of being able to teach critical thinking in media literacy as it relates to misinformation and disinformation? >> i think it is one of the really basic things. well you talk about education, we really talk about growing to become a member of the state. and learning to trust the structures that we have. for, that for example, we have a media literacy policy. and, there we see that it is not only about media literacy, not only about disinformation, but much more. it is about trust to the society, to the politicians, and especially to the media. >> sarah, your students are teams. they're getting into their teen years. to what degree do you make resistance to this? are they open to, saying teach

me these things so that i can be a better consumer of information. or you get pushback from students who say you are indoctrinating, they let me read what i want to read? >> not really. they are pretty. open of course they are critical. they're teenagers. they have to be. that's the way to learn the world if you cannot ever criticize or question things, you want to learn. they're pretty open. and they're really interested. and they know that they will lead the seals. every time we do a project, we analyze the, videos whatever. they are really into. it and they are surprised about the results that they get from the, videos for example. we know also that they do their own educational videos. and another student analyze them, what kind of messages or hidden agendas are happening in the backyard that they are finding. and they find it useful, so they're open to it. but of course they are

teenagers, so the question. >> the interesting, thing leo, if you have this progun which starts in school, a program for older, adults how do you measure success overtime? what does success look like on this, front how you measure it? >> it is a very difficult thing to measure in numbers. what we have to look at our, for example, the precip's that shows the finnish population believes and trusts in governments and the media. the newspapers. and what we are thinking is that it is not important to fight against the small minority who are against everything that the government says, for example. but we need to strengthen the majority that believes in the government interest in the government. that is really important. but it is extremely difficult to measure in a numbers. we have to look at the different ways of how society is working, and what can you

discussions we have in public. >> great, discussion i really appreciate the two of you taking the time to talk to us. sunday marks guys a seventh and ninth grade teacher, and leo pascola is the deputy director of the national audio visual institute in finland. straight ahead, interview out of california where ten people were killed by a gunman in monterrey park just east of los angeles. plus, we have found and they have found classified documents at president biden's home in delaware. we have the latest details in another hour of velshi velshi, which begins right now. i'm ali velshi. it is sunday january 22nd. ten people are confirmed dead in monterrey park, california, after an overnight shooting. they're going to publicly about two, hours at 11 am eastern time unity and pacific. police say the shooting happened to 10:30 pm local time. at a, quote, borrowed yes. location addition to the ten dead, ten other people were wounded and taken to area

hospitals. a homicide captain for the l.a. county sheriff's department andrew meyer described the harrowing scene in the news conference. >> >> when officers arrived on, scene they had numerous, individuals patrons of location pointing in the location. screaming. the officer's main location looking at additional victims. the monterey park fire department responded to the scene and treated the injured. and pronounced ten of the victims deceased at the scene. >> suspect fled the scene remains outside. nbc news correspondent steve patterson live in mary park right now. steve, good morning to you again. law enforcement that the suspect is still a large. how much do we know about anything to do a motivation who the suspect -- and what else we've gathered? >> elliott, this, point it's all on investigation. the scene has remained mostly static since we've been here. police keeping a hold on the scene with that suspect is

still a large. according to police -- ten dead. another ten wounded. these numbers expected to change those wounded. ranging from staple to very critical at this hour. shots ringing out again as you mention about ten, 20 or so late last night. this is following the new ludmila celebration that was in place yesterday. thousands of people on the streets expected again today. it was canceled came down a few moments ago -- police out of an abundance of caution but also other respect for the victims here as well. we just don't know anything about motive. we don't know anything really about the weaponry that was used. we don't know anything about if this was targeted or indiscriminate or if it was fire inside or outside. all of that, of course, part of the ongoing investigation and all of this still early as