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katy tur. we're learning more about the shooting attack at the star ballroom dance studio in monterey park, california, including two of the victims' identities. we'll bring you the latest from our own jose diaz balart there on the scene. today the community is mourning the massive loss of life, seven survivors remain hospitalized and a second possible shooting was stopped bay bystander. more on that in a minute. police have not released a motive for the shooting. nbc's kate snow spoke with the mayor of monterey park who had this to say. >> he may have come because his ex-wife was reveling, celebrating the new year, and you know, just sounded like a history of domestic violence, which is unfortunate, and he essentially, you know, committed to violence, and it cast a fog

on a celebratory evening. >> was it your understanding his ex-wife was here that night? >> i believe so. >> so perhaps he was targeting her? >> possibly, yes. >> that suspect fled in a white van leading police on a search for several hours, they were eventually able to approach the vehicle in torrence, california, about 30 miles from the location of the shooting. police found the suspect dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. and today, officials are praising a hero who stopped a possible second attack. brandon shay was in the office of his family-owned ballroom studio in al hambra when a man walked in and pointed a smook -- a semi automatic goon at him. here he is speaking to us this morning. >> i got the courage and lunged at him with both my hands and grabbed the weapon and we had a struggle. we struggled into the lobby, trying to get this gun away from each other, and he was hitting

me across the face, smashing the back of my head, i was trying to use my elbows to separate the gun away from him, create some distance, finally at one point, i was able to pull the gun away from him, shove him aside, create some distance, and point the gun at him, and intimidate him, and trying to say, get the hell out of here, i'll shoot. >> now, that weapon seized during the struggle was likely not legal to own in the state of california, according to the sheriff. how the suspect came to possess it and why he used it to target his victims remains unanswered at this hour. joining me from monterey park is msnbc anchor jose diaz balart and justice and intelligence kent ken dilanian. jose, let's start with you. they have been able to identify some of the victims so far. what more can you tell us about that? >> five men and five women, they were here on saturday night,

star dance studio, you know, it's a place where people were celebrating the lunar new year, there was so much happiness and so much festivity in the air, as a matter of fact the studio had plastered throughout the area on thursday and friday of last week, flyers, inviting people to come out here and celebrate the new year. the party started at 8:00. it was going to go through midnight, and it's just one of those things, this is like one of the safest communities in our country, about 65% asian, about 30% latino, and everyone together celebrating. as a matter of fact, i'm right at the corner of garvey and garfield. this whole area earlier on saturday evening was packed with people celebrating, and inside there, i spoke with a gentleman who was inside, sam, who got there about 9:30, and he says about an hour in at 10:20 local time, everything, he said,

changed. take a listen to what he saw and heard. >> a lot of people dancing but i don't know dancing, the music and the enjoyment, no. something i heard, some like, some other people said like fireworks. >> you heard it? >> i heard it, not like fireworks. i was there where i heard it. like that. much more intense. not fireworks. and then i really, really like -- >> did you see the person? >> yes. >> you saw the person? and then for a few minutes, and then i see the person, attacking in the entry, the front entry, with a gun. >> reporter: we expect to know more just about a half hour from now, when governor newsom of

california, and the mayor of monterey park are expected to give us an update shortly. but so far, the local coroner's identified 65-year-old mai dishan and 63-year-old lelan lee as two of the female victims. and just a couple of miles from here at city hall, which is also a community center, i met a mother and her son, they were, they came out, and they brought ten candles, ten prayer candles, each one, each of the people who lost their lives. kyle and darlene flores were setting these candles there and praying for the ten people who lost their lives, as well as for the families of those injured, and those who lost a loved one. they just say, it's something inconceivable. kyle grew up here, in this area, and said that he grew up sewage and incorporating all of --

assuming and incorporating all of the cultural traditions that this community has. they made it their own. and they're now just feeling like one of their own, in this case, ten people of their own lost their lives, and so many people are just wondering why? what caused this? it is just so heart breaking, jose. especially when you listen to them talk about this party atmosphere and they probably thought it was the safest place in the world and it quickly became anything but. what more can you tell us about the suspect, jose? >> reporter: we know very little other than his age and his name. that he took his own life after police essentially cornered him in. he had this white van that had tags that weren't of that van. so there seems to be some premeditation, some pre-planning. apparently, he had two weapons. two handguns. one that he used here, and then one that was wrestled away from the second place he went to. but then he took his life with a

handgun. so there are so many questions, so little information, and so many people just can't fathom how this happened here and why. >> ken, let's go over to you now, and if you can kind of update us on where this investigation may go, and the mayor is suggesting perhaps the weapon used was illegal. what would investigators be looking into now? >> well, the big question is what jose articulated, the why, the motive, and in order to get at the motive, they're going to be interviewing relatives, friends, any online activity that they can mine, bu then this question of the guns, ryan, you're absolutely right, they will need to get to the bottom of whether the guns were purchased legally, because that is an investigation into whether anyone else potentially committed any crimes or any rules were violated. then also, questions about could this have been prevented in any

way? were there any signs here? what led up to this? what were the circumstances? there are reports that the suspect had been, had frequented this dance hall, what were the circumstances of that, and law enforcement officers even though the suspect is deceased, they will want to get the answers to all of these questions, the victims' families will want to know these answers but as you said, particularly, the issue of the gun, and get to the bottom of it, were those guns purchased legally and under what circumstances. >> a heart breaking story, jose diaz balart, ken dilanian, leting us off, ken, see you in a little bit. jose, thank you for your excellent reporting on the ground there. let's talk now with california state senator susan rubio who represents monterey park. senator, our thoughts are with you and your community right now. what are your constituents telling you? i have to imagine they're in a bit of a state of shock right now. >> well, first of all, thank you for having me here and i want to just take a moment to say thank you to everyone that's been sending messages to our community, to me personally, offering support and

condolences. our community is clearly devastated. and the initial reaction from our community was to know that the community was safe, keep in mind that we have someone at large, they didn't know if he was going to come back to another facility. so it was a sigh of relief when we were able to report that the suspect was not captured but as we now know, committed suicide. so they felt a little relief. but still, there is a lot of heart break in our community and we will continue to monitor the situation. >> if you can, explain to us a little bit about what these ballroom dance studios are like in the monterey park community. you just get the sense that they were an important part of the social fabric there and especially on a holiday like this. tell us how important these places are, and how it could impact you going forward in terms of people feeling safe going to ballrooms like these. >> it's actually critical to have these facilities, but in particular, for our seniors, now we know from our reports that

the majority of people that were in that ballroom were 50 to 70 years of age, especially some of the victims, i believe one was 50, most of them were 60 and 70, and so that's taking not only a place for them to gather and come together as a community, but as we know, i don't believe, the point to be able to go back and participate, i feel really heart broken for the owner, i know there is a lot of trauma, a lot of guilt, and so we hope that our community can heal, and come together, as we have been, but once again, we want to encourage everyone to check in on each other to see how they're doing, mental health-wise and just to see they're okay. >> to that end, senator, what type of resources will the state be able to provide folks in monterey park that are dealing with this tragedy? >> well, right now, locally, there is a trauma center for all of the families that need help, that they want to speak to anyone but as a state, we have put resources together and we're

able to provide extra patrol, funding for extra police presence, and our state has been very involved since the minute we heard the news, and they've been there supporting the local police. so anyone that needs help, please contact the local community center. >> i want to talk to you now a little bit about the situation involving the firearms that were used in the commission of this crime, and the sheriff spoke earlier about the gun recovered at the second scene and he said he believes it is not even legal to have a gun like this in the state of california. obviously, california has some of the strictest gub laws in the country -- gun laws in the country. what is your response from you and fellow lawmakers about the laws you have in place. is there an enforcement problem here? >> well, if you want to call it that, the way i see it, that california does have limits of the laws, but however, these perpetrator goes across our state lines to purchase weapons in other states, so what we need is a national gun reform law, and i know that we're having a

difficult time trying to pass common sense gun laws, but i think that it has to be an effort that's done nationally, and i hope that our national partners see the tragedies occurring. i also understand that there was another tragedy after that, that shooting, so these continue to grow. i know that in 2017, we were about 350 mass shootings, 2022, they grew to about 64 so they almost doubled. and they're going to continue to grow. i believe there's 33 already this year. and we haven't even completed the month of january. so we need something at the national level, absolutely. here in california, we're very committed, but we need our national partners to follow as well. >> okay, state senator susan rubio, representing monterey park, where this awful shooting took place, we appreciate you being here, senator, thank you so much. joining me here now is the director of the study of hate and extremism a former nypd police officer, brian leven.

let's talk about the gunman, 72-year-old man, far older than the median age of gunman in u.s. mass shootings, that's about 32 according to the byrons project. why are mass shooters typically younger and what does this tell us about the person who is the suspect of this attack? >> sure, well, yes, and we generally see violent criminality peak in the younger decades but with some of these mass attack, the las vegas massacre shooter was 64, the jewish center center, a white supremacist, was 74, and the attempted mass killing, the holocaust museum shooting was 88 years old. so we see a range. and one of the reasons we see a range is because anger and accessibility to weapons, it's available across a wide swath of ages, although primarily male. and one of the things that i

just want to just bring in briefly is along with the age, we look at other factors, and yes, we're all concerned with people in their 20s and 30s indeed, similar to the age of what we're seeing in the insurrectionists, we're seeing some type of offenders, in the 30s. there is a range, but some are motivated, some psychologically distress and others are revenge or personal benefit and some may have some combination thereof, so these factors affect a wide swath across age groups and sometimes for different reasons. >> let's expand on motive a little bit. we got a little bit of information in this regard and obviously this is the early stages of the investigation but we're told the attacker was a member of the community that he shot, and it seems that this may have been a personal situation, how often do we see targeting

attacks like this, where someone has gone there with a specific vendetta and how to prevent it? what red flag does we look out for in cases like these? >> psychological distress. misogyny. let me say something quickly here. our friends go out to the aapi community who irrespective of motive are being terrorized across three historically elevated years for hate crime, so that's important. one of the things that we see oftentimes involve anger or violence against family members, some kind of psychological distress, indeed when i was in the nypd, there was an attack by an estranged boyfriend who committed arson against a happyland social club in the bronx, killing 87 people. so when people are under psychological distress, amped up by anger, or they have some kind

of psychological issue, in addition to a stressor, we see these kind of attacks, and they get directed not only against an initially-spended intended target but across a wide geography. and one other quick point, the attack last decade, a person going against his ex-wife killed everyone in the orbit he could get. so we see that with people undergoing psychological distress or sociopaths shall,, experiencing anger and a scatter shot approach and much easier now with the firearms that are available, in these states like california, that i'm in, which have restricted gun laws, we have a much lower homicide rate than what we see in states that don't, but the guns come across the border often times, as we

saw in mass shootings here in california, like gilroy, and others. >> that does seem to be the common denominator is the access to firearms in situations like these. thank you for your expertise. we appreciate it, sir. and still ahead, arizona's kyrsten sinema gets a primary challenger. what that race will mean for the democrats' senate majority if she even runs as a democrat. the president says there is no "there" there. but even democrats are criticizing joe biden after the d.o.j. found even more classified documents at his delaware home. the political pressure that it is putting on the white house ahead of 2024. and later, shocking revelations by the fbi. a former high level special agent with ties to a russian oligarch is arrested. what the bureau says he did. i'd like to thank our sponsor liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.

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well, we could be gearing up for a three-way senate race in

the crucial battleground state of arizona, ruben gallego has officially thrown his hat into the ring, he announced his bid to take the seat of senator kyrsten sinema, who shocked democrats back in december when she left the party and registered as an independent. now she has not announced if she plans to run again but if thee does, the head-to-head matchup is likely to split the coalition of democratic and independent voters who tinted the state blue in recent elections and that's something that democrats can't afford with a razor thin majority in the senate. joining me now is vaughn hillyard, and gallego's house district is solidly blue compared to rest of the state and he may be too progressive for a swing state like arizona. >> he has been viewed as a hard line progressive. and in his particular district, it is a heavily democratic district. and this is a candidate who is

not going to be running a campaign in the mold of a kyrsten sinema or a mark kelly. at least what you would expect on its face. they really appeal to a greater swath of the electorate by claiming themselves to be these independent westerners, and for gallego this is going to be a marked shift for him. he is somebody who campaigned previously on medicare for all, right? and he is going to have to make the case that democratic progressive policies are the way that arizonans should go. and this is going to be particularly challenging, in what could be a three-way race between independent kyrsten sinema, and a republican candidate. for ruben gallego his initial campaign video that they put out is focused on his profile, biography, time in marine, a tour of duty in iraq and lost fellow service men that he worked alongside. for ruben gallego this is going to be a more difficult task ahead and especially one if kyrsten sinema intends to stay in this race.

to note, she has not announced a re-election bid for 2024. ruben gallego is the only individual in this race, but this is a very important state for republicans and democrats in 204 as a majority of the senate will be up for grabs again. >> it is interesting to see how the dynamics play themselves out. kyrsten sinema could theer retcally run in a democratic primary and who are the potential republican candidates? >> kari lake i'm told is not ruling out a bid at this point. you've got the likes of blake masters. that's a name that i say everyone should take a look at, he lost 5 percentage points to mark kelly and openly looking at another bid here and he essentially has had everything from his past thrown at him already here, he's got financial backing behind him and he could announce a serious challenge again, especially in a three-way race. the other is karen taylor-robson, much more of a

doug doocy, her old advisers are old mccain advisers, and for her, that would be after losing to kari lake in the governors race in 2022, it could be a way to make the case for republicans, it didn't work out in 2022, give this shot of republicanism a shot in 2024, and if you're the democrat, and the biggest concern is a three-way race, and voters, you know, a republican base, coming out and turning out for republicans and flipping the seat in the gop's favor. >> vaughn hillyard always on top of it. a man who knows arizona as well as anyone. vaughn, thank you so much for being here. joining me now to talk more about this is senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake and also with me is the co-author leigh ann caldwell. kind of like a conversation the three of us could be having in the halls of capitol and let everyone in on it. garrett, let's start with you. if kyrsten sinema is not running and we don't know if she will or not.

she has been coy about that. what about the democrats that cannot afford a split vote that costs the seat in arizona? >> kyrsten sinema not run woog -- running would be a good look for the democrats in the race. and ruben gallego would be able to take on the cycle, highly favorable to election and in a presidential year with joe biden on the ballots and that is the mystery. if joe biden decides to run, as much as kyrsten sinema has frustrated rank and file democrats, progressives for the change of filibuster rules and other political stances, she has been essential to everything that joe biden has been able to accomplish in the senate the last two years, so does biden, with the democratic party more broadly, support, do they dance with the one they're with or support the new guy? it will be a huge question once

kyrsten sinema makes her intentions clear. >> already chuck schumer the democratic senate campaign, strangely quiet about all of these developments. they don't want to weigh in as of yet. let's go over to the other side of the capitol, leigh ann and talk about the house, and minority leader hakeem jeffries has nominated adam schiff and swalwell to the intelligence committee and let's read a little bit of the letter to speaker mccarthy. it is my understanding that you intend to break with the longstanding house tradition of deference to the minority party intelligence committee recommendations. the denial of seats to duly-elected members of the house democratic caucus runs counter to serious and sober mission of the intelligence committee. leigh ann, walk us through this joedown and what could it -- showdown and what could it potentially look like? >> this is a showdown we all expected. we know that adam schiff would want to stay on the intelligence committee and eric swalwell would want to stay on the intelligence committee and they

would put their names for. that is exactly what hakeem jeffries did formally this morning. and the reason he is going to do that is to show, to put in the hands of kevin mccarthy, is he really going to remove them from their committees, especially after kevin mccarthy slammed democrats last year, the last congress, for removing republicans from their committees, and also for, at the time, speaker nancy pelosi, removing republicans from the january 6th select committee. so it seems retribution, what goes around, comes around, in congress these days, and moving forward, the democrats are prepared to have this fight. especially adam schiff, as he prepares potentially a run for the united states senate, for the state of california. this could potentially be very good for him, fundraising-wise, and this could raise his profile yet again, even though he has a high profile and what could be a

very crowded primary in that race. but politics aside, democrats are moving forward with this, they say, based on principal, these people should serve on the committee, leading an impeachment trial, an impeachment investigation against a president is nowhere the same, democrats say, as the comments and the violent videos that republicans put out when they were removed from their committees last congress, ryan. >> you know, garrett, i think we have, it raises a good point about the fear of all of this. jeffries talking about marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar being removed from committees. is this really a done deal, and at this point, this is just both sides trying to get as many of their talks points out as possible before the decision is finally made? >> i think that's right. for mccarthy to back down now would be a huge reversal. he campaigned on the idea that he would remove schiff and swalwell from the intelligence committee and something he can do unilaterally and he doesn't need to take a vote and he didn't have to ask anybody else

and go on fox news and talk about how he kept a promise. it wouldn't surprise me. the case of ilham omar is more complicated because the house foreign affairs is not a select committee, and to kick her off would be a majority vote in the whole house and we saw how challenging it is to get a majority vote in this house. and some of the newer members, the group of new york freshmen, who are so essential to turning the house red this time around, who might not want to engage in that kind of tit for tat, and might not look the look, that's a different case. >> yes, you're so right, garrett. we've seen kevin mccarthy have to deal with the right flank of his party. there is going to come a time when he has to deal with the moderate flank as well, and perhaps this battle is where it is. thank you so much. we appreciate it. coming up, the former head of counter-intelligence for the fbi's new york office was arrested. what he is accused of, and the charges he is now facing. but first, more classified documents are found at president

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dating all the way back to president biden's time in the senate, has prompted a slew of questions from republicans and democrats, over the last 72 hours. in a new request from the house oversight committee, demanding more information, the white house told house republicans it will cooperate with what they call legitimate oversight. in an unprecedented search of the sitting president's home friday, the d.o.j. found quote six items consisting of documents marked as classified. we should note lawyers for the president aren't saying exactly how many democrats were found in total. two sources tell nbc news the search was prompted by the white house, not the justice department, but that's not cooling concerns on capitol hill. >> clearly, he's become a serial classified document hoarder. why did he have these? who did he show them to? the only reason we can think of, to take classified documents out of the classified space at home is to show them to somebody.

>> i'm glad the president is fully cooperating. that's what he should do. that is what he needs to do. but the fact that there are, you know, additional documents now, in a place they shouldn't be, we need the intelligence community to do an assessment, just as i urge with the documents in mar-a-lago and make sure there hasn't been any compromise of the information. >> let's talk more about this now with nbc's white house correspondent mike memoli and "washington post" white house reporter tyler pager. mike, let's start with you. we heard adam schiff applaud president biden's transparency. what are his lawyers not saying? what haven't they clarified? >> well, where do you begin, ryan? it is worth underscoring for starter the point you made, it is the unprecedented search of a sitting president's personal home and it took place 12 hours saturday we understand from the president's personal attorney. d.o.j. investigators looking at everything according to the statement from memorabilia, to do lists, schedules, all sorts

of documents and ultimately taking into possession a certain number of materials, it is worth emphasizing the materials rather than documents that they deemed within their scope of their inquiry. i think that is significant, ryan is, the fact that they are now including, within their scope, materials from the president's time in the u.s. senate. up until now, the sources we've been talking to have cast this as simply a matter of perhaps, you know, clumsy packing of the vice president's office, late in 2017, or early 2017, as he was preparing to leave that office, but now, investigators are taking with them items from the senate, you see the investigation that is going beyond what we understood to be the scope at the start. now, these are all the kinds of questions that we're all asking on a daily basis, our colleagues at "morning joe" tried to drill down on this as well this morning, with the spokesperson for the white house counsel's office. let's play that exchange. >> a lot of people are asking, how could this happen, and that's the answer that we're stuck on, there is no answer

being provided. >> well, again, i'm going to stress this again. i understand that there's a desire for public disclosure of information, that there's a desire for facts to come out, but it's important that the full set of facts be gathered by the justice department, and then presented publicly, so that people can understand all of these details. >> ryan, it is worth noting, we are starting to see more of this on camera as he begins to answer more questions publicly, even if the answers aren't always satisfactory. i know tyler is in the white house, it looks like in his post in the basement there, in the comfortable working spaces of the white house, getting ready to go into the white house briefing, karine jean-pierre set to go to the podium, it is worth noting in the seven white house briefings she conducted since the chance fy classified documents story first broke, she is bringing a special guest at the beginning of the briefing to set the room at rest, energy

secretary jennifer granholm. >> attempting to change the conversation a little bit and reporters are persistent i would imagine. and let's bring a conversation with james comer, on the oversight committee. he was on fox news this morning. take a listen. >> i think any premise for the president, any premises that he spent any amount of time needs to be searched and i wouldn't rule out any relatives of the biden family who have been involved in influence peddling schemes. >> so the white house counsel did sent a letter to comer, quote, the biden administration takes seriously the security and protection of government records and looking forward to engaging in good faith with the staff, with a meeting to be arranged. tyler, this is somewhat of a gift to james comer and the republicans on the house oversight committee. how do you see them handling the interaction of the committee? >> i don't think the white house is eager to have extended

interactions with the house oversight committee. i think they will prefer to do most of their communication as it relates to this investigation with the department of justice, as mike noted. the search on friday was after the white house and president biden's lawyers offered up his residence in wilmington for them to search. i think as we move forward, the white house is laying clear ground rules to a certain extent about how they plan to engage with house republicans, as they launch oversight investigations. i think they're planning to cooperate on certain inquiries that they deem are relevant to their work, for example the withdrawal from afghanistan, that is one that we know house republicans are eager to investigate, and the white house has signaled they will cooperate with that. when it comes to the president's son, as james comer just alluded to on fox news over the weekend, that is an area that i think we will see less cooperation from the white house, and trying to separate that out and saying the president's son is a private since and they're not eager to engage on that. as it relates to this investigation, i think they're trying to continue to show they're deeply cooperating with the department of justice, but

as that relates to house republicans, i think time will tell how that relationship evolves. >> all right, we will have to cut it short. tyler, mike, thank for being here. we appreciate it. that's because we have breaking news out of washington, d.c. and it's a verdict in the second oath keepers trial. four additional members of the far right group have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy, a crime that carries a maximum penalty of up to 20 years in prison. in november, the group's leader stuart rhodes was convicted of the same charge, so again, four members of the oath keepers found guilty of seditious conspiracy. when we come back, what poland is doing to help ukraine that germany is not yet willing to do. but first, a former fbi official is arrested over his ties to oleg deripaska. what he is accused of doing to help the russian oligarch.

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the former head of counter-intelligence at the fbi's new york field office has been arrested over his ties to a russian oligarch and close ally of vladimir putin. federal prosecutors allege that charles mcgonigal took hundreds of thousands of dollars from a foreign national and former foreign intelligence official while a special agency at the fbi. they say that relationship continued after he retired, laundering money and soliciting, and violating sanctions to aid the russian oligarch oleg deripaska. joining me is justice intelligence ken dilanian. this is a fascinating indictment, ken, not just one, but two cases filed against mcgonigal today. what more can you tell kwums. >> this is an extremely serious and troubling case against a former senior fbi official. charles mcgonigal rose to the level of the top counter-intelligence agent in

charge at the new york field office. his job was to protect the united states from foreign influence. but these twin indictments charge that he was complicit in foreign influence in two separate cases, first while he was in the job in 2017-2018, the indictment says he took $225,000 in cash from a former member of the albanian intelligence service, and went on foreign trips with this person, and met other foreign nationals, all of which he hid from the fbi, failed to disclose, and engaged in can. s of interest and got this person hired as a confidential fbi informant. then the separate case in new york said, as you said, mcgonigal helped this russian oligarch deripaska who has close ties to putin, helped him launder money and evade u.s. sanctions even though he investigated him while in the government and had classified information access about deripaska. so fbi officials are reviewing this as a huge betrayal. charles mcgonigal's lawyer says he is going to plead innocent and he looks forward to seeing

the evidence in the case, ryan. >> just quickly, remind us about oleg deripaska. he is already facing sanctions from the u.s. treasury, correct? >> that's right. he was indicted earlier this year on charges of evading sanctions. he is one of these pro-putin oligarchs. he appeared at this propaganda news conference that pute-with a bunch of oligarchs in support of the war in ukraine. he has been in the cross-hairs of the fbi for many years and now he is under indictment as well. >> reads like a spy novel. it is a real life as it gets. ken dilanian, thank you very much. up next, inside poland's first to send tanks to ukraine as a bipartisan group of senators calls on the united states to do the same. >> the ukraine military needs tanks. i'm tired of this [ bleep ] show surrounding who is going to send tanks and when they're going to send them thanks, dad. that's right, robert. and it's never too early to learn

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the tanks are vital for kyiv's war effort against russia. moments ago the state department spokesperson ned price says western allies will need to decide what to provide ukraine individually. >> we have taken steps over the course of many months, including over the summer, to see to it that partners are in a position to provide tanks to ukraine. ukraine has tanks. i don't want to leave you with the misimpression that ukraine doesn't have tanks. ukraine has hundreds of tanks. so point a. when it comes to -- >> anything they requested that is irrational? >> when it comes to any particular capability, you've heard us say this before, and you actually summed it up, this is a sovereign decision on the part of each country to decide. we are not going to be prescripted. the only thing that we're continuing to prescribe is that president putin's aggression will continue to be a strategic failure. we are going to provide ukraine with what it needs to take on

the battle that it is facing at any given moment. >> as one road block possibly clears russia continues to attack ukraine's civilian infrastructure on the eastern front. joining us is reflex raf sanchez. how are officials where you are and in russia responding to the potential for the tanks? >> in just the last hour, the ukrainian foreign minister has put out a statement saying we are in the final stage of acquiring these leper tanks so it does appear there has been some progress on that front over the course of the day. the ukrainians are saying it is about time. they have been trying to sound the alarm, with all of the urgency they can, and vladimir putin's forces are regrouping and they are preparing for a second defense, and possibly in the next couple of weeks, and ukrainian officials are saying those tanks are absolutely critical. we spoke to a ukrainian member

of parliament earlier today, and he told us, every day of delay is costing ukrainian lives here in the east of the country, especially where that fighting is centered right now, around the area of bakhmut. as you said these tanks made by germany, and every country that possesses them including poland, needs german permission in order to get them to the ukrainians, but the poles have basically said today whether the germans like it or not, those tanks are going to ukraine, and the german foreign minister has said germany will not stand in the way of those deliveries. now, it is interesting, ryan, you played that sound from ned price, the spokesman for the state department, he was very diplomatic about how it is a sovereign decision for each country, whether or not they are going to send those tanks, but u.s. officials have told nbc news, there is a lot of frustration in washington at this german holdup over this tanks issue, and that germany tried to put the u.s. in a position where they said, look,

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