hi everyone, i'm yasmin your local xfinity store today. vossoughian. if you are just joining us, welcome. if you are sticking with, us thank you. a new protest at the start in just about an hour or so in memphis, tennessee. people they're demanding answers after the release of shocking videos of a traffic

stop that led to the beating and a few days later the death of tyre nichols. want to renew the video that is graphic but seeing it is the only way to understand the brutality of this attack that began seemingly the moment that nichols was stopped. [inaudible] [inaudible] so after nichols fled, a group of officers that caught up with

him and then they beat him. you see it here, mercilessly. and in the, and all he could do what cry out for his mother. [inaudible] this is yet another incident that shows some of those that are paid to protect and serve instead of out of control and violent. and it has many across the country saying enough. enough. >> five police officers, it doesn't matter, not even one of them to say no this is not right. >> there is no words to describe it. i was sick to my stomach, i had to walk away a few times you know? it just breaks your heart. >> we have to stand up and be

reminded that this is not just a memphis thing or a sacramento or california thing, it's a national thing. >> i want to bring in nbc antonia hylton once again on the ground for us and memphis. as i'm taking a listen to this video, i cannot help but think back to george floyd as well who also cried out for his mom as that he was being held on this neck i believe for nine minutes at the time as tyre did and the final moments of that video as well leading to his death days later. i know that you are there in memphis and just an hour or so, another protest is set to begin. take us there. >> well first to touch on what you mentioned about the role mothers play in this. one of the most heartbreaking elements of the story for me, many of the people that i have talked to is knowing that when you watch there in the footage actually only occurred about 80 to 100 yards away from his home. if you go by near that stock, you can even see his parents

home. and so you know, at a press or the other day his mom described feeling an intense pain and her stomach as she later found out her son who is being beaten. she felt there was a connection there that somehow everybody knew that her son was crying out for her. that broke so many hearts because of course so many people can relate to that level of love and pain. so much of the city, even people who did not know him are you know seeing parts of themselves or their sons or nephews and tyre. his love of photography, his love of skating, how social he was. he had a son and people here have been so focused on celebrating or trying to celebrate his life and while people are assuming and many of them folks from outside of memphis we're assuming that the protest here are going to be violent, there were going to look like riots. the reality is people here were grieving and trying to celebrate this person's life.

the events last night and into today have been very peaceful. the secret people on the same conversation with one another and trying to support each other. what we expect to see happen as we head into tomorrow is this is a really religious committee. a lot of people with ties to you know black churches with deep relationships and that community. i had the chance just last hour on your show to talk with the pastor who not only has been getting counsel to this family, but it's also going to host the funeral next week. i want people to take a listen to some of his words. >> even as a member of the clergy, i am still processing and working through something that was totally preventable but what we saw in the video last evening was absolute and complete depravity. and so i am still trying to process it all and trying best to lead our congregation in our community forward through this towards not just justice but

also healing. >> he later also said that what justice looks like to him would be convictions for all five of these officers. also a better understanding and very likely reform of the police department of the unit, the scorpion unit that these officers were involved. and that is reflective of what i keep hearing here on the ground. people want to understand more about how officers involved in what is supposed to be in the league tonight focused on serious crime fighting. gang violence, carjackings, like why they were even involved in a traffic related stop? people cannot wrap their minds around. it and they will not stop asking those questions yasmin. >> yes and they should, and antonio hilton, thank you for your reporting. appreciate you. joining me now tennessee state representative tory harris. thank you for joining us on this story, we appreciate it. i want to talk a little bit about police culture. antonia touched on it a bit there but as we have kind of been talking through that killing of tyre nichols, everything that we saw come out of that video yesterday evening,

there is the sense that folks are shocked by what they saw understandably but not surprised. [interpreter] >> yes, thank you yasmin. you are absolutely right. we are shocked to a point. we watch this happened with george floyd, we watched this happen with breonna taylor. darius right and to now be able to be in memphis, tennessee, watching this happen with tyre nichols and i cannot move forward without recognizing trayvon wells, the mother of tyre nichols and trying to understand where she is right now in this moment. policing is an issue that we have right now. and it is going to take all of us working together to figure this thing out. there is absolutely no reason why this young man is not with us right now. you should be skateboarding, out doing something that he loved doing witches photography. but yet, he is gone. he cried out for his mother and

we watch that happen on this video on last night. and that was tough for us. here in memphis to watch where the majority of us look like our police department, to have to sit there and watch them beat, to brutally beat this man. you see them at one point grabbed his arms and say show us your hands but you cannot do that because they were already holding him. where are we at this point where there is a lack of police training? there is an efficient policies, the brutality that we are having to watch in front of our eyes, it is so sad. we are disgusted, i cannot say it anymore than that. we are just blatantly disgusted. i could not be in the situation right now where my people, my community and many of the activists and community members and i've spoken to last week. i remember before being elected, -- being out there during the george floyd and being an

activist and being a part of that process and now having to sit there as a legislator where we have the power and ability to change some of these laws and the rules that happen, and yet we still have not done it. >> i am hearing it in your voice tory, i want you to expand on it which is kind of this frustration with a lack of foreign movement change. we have seen it across the board with many issues. i have been up here talking about police shootings, police brutality over and over again and throughout the years right? reforms have not happened, changes have not happened. people ask over and over again, what else do you need to? see how bad does the video need to get? we can talk about gun legislation as well. when it comes to mass shootings, how bad does it need to get for change to happen? is there a feeling? is there a sense that no matter what happens, no matter how bad a, gets no matter how brutal these videos are, things will not change? >> it feels that way and a lot of that comes because if you

watched over the last few days, over the last couple of weeks actually, the amount of fearmongering that was put in front of us to say that people and memphis were going to protest, it was going to be violent. rather than trying to make sure we hold the police officers accountable for making sure that they are not violent. let's face, at memphis police department did not move swiftly because it was the right thing to do. they move swiftly because i know that the memphis community will not play with them. we are not. the protests that are going to be happening over the next couple of days, over the next couple of weeks have to continue. we have to keep on it seems like begging in order to get some change to happen. that should not be the case but one thing i can say for sure is that memphis will hold the nation accountable for this. our community, we will make sure people look at policing. that we look at how our policies happen. if you look back at the records of these young men who are on this police force, who the five men at least. we are looking at this and

possibly, more at the minimum these five men right here have not been with this force for that long. yet, they are a part of a task force that was put in place by our mayor and by the chief of police in order to make sure that safety and that crime decreased in our city. these men were not trained to do this, they were not ready for this. obviously. we sat there and watch them try and create a narrative or a story that was not true. this young man got pulled over, why did he get pulled over? we have yet to figure that part out. and as a city, we look at to the bottom of that. >> tennessee state representative tory harris, we thank you. want to bring and now congresswoman barbara lee, democrat from california into the conversation. congressman, as always a pleasure to speak to you. i am sure that you just heard, my interview there. and really kind of this sense of frustration right? and you can apply this is so many issues across the board as adjusted with gun legislation

for instance. what more do we need to see? how bad does it need to get right? the video released last night was the worst of the worst. many have looked at that video and said that is worse than what we saw with the rodney king beating's. what did you make of it? yasmin, first off thank you for having me and the grief first of all that has gripped the entire country and especially tyre nichols family is hard to talk about. the pain and suffering and what once again, the black community is going through as a result of that dehumanization of black and brown people. when you look at what is taking place, the culture, the police culture, we need reform and we need to dismantle the systems and these policies. it has allowed police officers to get away literally in many respects with murder. [interpreter] and this is just another

example and this is, i think president biden and his statement talked about the trauma and the burden of black and brown people that we carry all of the time. and this is gut-wrenching. and what we have to come together and just say no more. dismantled the systems because they are based on implicit bias. they are developed to dehumanize people so that you can police officers can get away with murder. >> coming together in dismantling sounds nice. congresswoman but in this day and age, it is not the easiest thing to do. you are taking a look at washington right now which has republican led house. the president has said in reaction to release of this video that there must be passage at the george floyd justice and policing act. it was passed in the house under a democratic congress. it was stalled in the senate. there is no way and correct me if i am wrong, republicans in

the house will get this thing passed. do you have any optimism where reform can be seen out of washington after the release of a video like this one? >> yes jasmine, i have to say coming together and dismantling may sound nice but that is what we have to do. i know that the country has risen up once again, look at the young people. look at people in the streets pushing and telling elected officials, telling members of congress to come off and conduct and move forward with these police reform measures. starting with the george floyd justice and policing act. we will not say because they are republicans, and congress we will not try. we will fight and we will continue to fight. in a democracy, the voices of people must be heard. no one said it was going to be easy, once again, tyre nichols is gone. you know, his family has lost this beautiful young man. so we cannot just say because they are republicans, we are going to stop fighting.

we will make sure that these republican step up and do the right thing so that black and brown communities don't have to be worried continually worried about being killed. >> have you spoken to any of your republican colleagues since the release of this video? had any conversations about it? >> i hope that they see that video yasmin, i have not spoken to any of them. it is hard, i've seen this several times. i hope that they are watching over and over again. maybe that will bring some sensitivity and understanding and clarity of what these take place. and so hopefully, some of them will say yes, enough is enough. we have to look at this and begin to pass measures that really began to dismantle these structures and policies that give rise to these horrible and horrific cases of police brutality in this conduct. >> congresswoman, i have to ask you while i have, you i do want to pivot here for a moment if we can. we are talking about on this

tendency in your state. senator fines and has not yet announced her intentions but to our house colleagues have jumped in. we are talking about katie porter, adam shift as well. we are getting reports from i believe politico, washington post as well saying that you have plans to jump into the senate race. are you willing to announce here today that you will do just that or what your intentions are congresswoman? >> yasmin, we are all encouraged by the support that i am receiving but we will have an announcement of the launch of our campaign when the time is right. >> well i hope you reach out to my show when you make that decision and make that announcement public. congresswoman barbara lee, we thank you. >> certainly, thank you. >> tomorrow on the show everybody, congressman adam shift of california joins me to talk about his new announcement for the senate seat currently held by diane fawn sign. plus's reaction to being pulled from the intel committee by kevin mccarthy. coming up this hour everybody, we have a lot ahead. the tyre nichols video, it's horrific. we will talk about just how

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need to show the world what lessons we can learn from this tragedy. >> that was shelby county da, steve mulroy, speaking out. what can be learned in the wake of the police brutal killing of tyre nichols. joining me now is the plan keys fleming, a former county district attorney. thank you for joining us on this gwen, we appreciate it. as a former da, if you will indulge us for a moment here, what is your reaction to how shelby county da,. steve mulroy has county -- handled the state thus far? >> from what i've been able to learn through the news, he i mediately met with the family, made himself available even if it was not on his calendar for that day, that demonstrates the two true heart of a public servant responding to the need and the moment. obviously, he and his team gather the evidence and based on what was shown on the video, you move very quickly towards

indictments. and he along with the police chief got those that are responsible off of the streets. and, so i do agree that this is a blueprint. and how we can respond to some of these heinous acts that seem to be more common than they should be in this day and time. >> gwen, while i have, you i want to pay because i want to talk quickly about the georgia investigation into the former president and the 2020 election. we had fulton county da fani willis saying this week that the sessions were quote unquote, imminent and then here and did not in fact released a grand jury's report for the time being. also, our own msnbc block saying this, i want to read it for you if i can. the da's reasoning for wanting to keep the granary report secret, at least for now also suggest that she is gearing up to bring criminal charges. and i think you can tell us about this or any analysis you have on this? >> well, first i don't have any firsthand knowledge. i can only speak to my former position as a da.

i think she is making the right move. she is indicated that discussions are eminent, but she has used the defendants to suggest that any decision she makes will be about more than one person. and she is, right every prosecutor is concerned about the integrity of their case. and if and when there are charges, if the and one there are convictions, you want them to stand, to be able to hold wrongdoers accountable. and so she is playing the long game as she should hear. i do if the report becomes public but i understand the need for it to be kept close to the best until her decisions are final until they are made public. >> if you can bow on that threat a lot, about you mentioned the word defendant. the usage of that word and i think a lot of people kind of are negative to that. that was her use that yes, i know and i know that you gave reaction to that on fox five i believe saying it is really wide open at this point.

what plural defendants means and that there is a broad university, universe of people where there might be the potential for charges. talk more about that if you can. >> well one of the things that i and several of my coauthors did was write a very lengthy report about the potential crimes that can be implicated based simply on what we know and the public realm. obviously, five e and her team have more evidence, either and support of charges which are possibly even and mitigating against charges. but the group of us that wrote the report, a combined group of federal prosecutors, state prosecutors like myself, folks that are democrats, folks that are republican. so we took politics out of it and look at the facts. we did come to the conclusion that there is a substantial likelihood of charges that include things like a rico indictment, conspiracy to commit election fraud. possibly forgery charges, false

statements, influencing witnesses and public officials and we think that that scope goes beyond former president to possibly include other individuals. and, again fani gets to make that decision. but that is what we are all waiting to see. >> gwen keys fleming, we thank you. coming up next everybody, a breakdown of exactly what police did wrong that led to tyre nichols dying in the hospital three days after he was beaten. former police captain sonia pruitt ways, and coming up next. next

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child. i want to say to the five police officers that murdered my son, you also disgraced your own families. when you did this. but you know what? i will pray for you and your family because at the end of the day, they should not have happened. this just should not have happened. >> joining me now former police captain montgomery marilyn, sony pruitt. captain pruitt, thank you for joining us on this. i was talking to my colleague antonio little bit earlier about this idea of mothers and the importance of mothers. you heard it tie recalling off for his mom, just yards away, hundreds of yards away from his home, where his mom was. calling out for her and name because he needed help. calling out for her likely because he was hurting right? you can't help but remember

also george floyd doing the very same thing, not in proximity but just because he was hurting and in so much pain and gasping for air. whether to make of what you just heard from terry's mother there? >> it is heartbreaking. it is heartbreaking as a mother of sons. it is heartbreaking because while she did not voice this at this particular interview, we look to not only the police but other police members of our communities such as black officers to be our protectors because they understand the nuance of being a black person in america. and living in a neighborhood such as the neighborhood that she and tyre lived in. i obviously there have been some issues there because they

implemented a scorpion team which is a saturation team. so i am sure that their families look to the police to make sure that they were always safe. this did not occur. >> let's talk about the importance of the body camera footage, along with the addition that mounted surveillance video as well that we saw right? i remember being on the air sitting in the anchor chair and asking, as to when there was going to be requirements of officers having body cameras on their person? but talk about how incredibly important it is in the story and so many others in this incident, this tragedy to have this type of video to show this country and the world what took place? >> yes so it's ironic that the use of body camera videos were a, maybe not direct but a result of the beating of rodney

king back in the early 90s. all of a sudden, police leadership and government officials realize, we might want to be able to see what officers are doing. the federal government put money into the, the funding of body worn cameras for police and law enforcement departments across the country. so we thought forward to 2023 and we see that we have had some really, really horrible evidence that was captured on body worn cameras. cameras that were won that by the police officers, as well as surveillance videos from the neighborhood. it is extremely important that this evidence is available because it gives you a real time view of what was happening, when it was happening. what time it was happening? where it was happening. had there not have been body worn camera videos, maybe the surveillance video would have been helpful but having both of

those things gives the detectives a enormous amount of evidence, as well as the da office. >> there is a part of the encounter that i wanted to talk about a little, bit i'm sure you've seen the entire video. it was a second part of the encounter, after this captured him. after tyre got away. and which they have his hands behind his back, his arms are behind him and yet though you hear the audio of the officer saying show me your hands. show me your hands right? but they have his arms, they have his hands. i am wondering when you are watching that and when you are dissecting that, is that in a way the officer is trying to create and audio defense to what is happening? >> if you take that one little piece, i would say i am not sure because and the excitement of things, what they might have been trying to say is put your hands behind your back instead they said show me your hands

but words are important right? and so they are screaming to this man to show me your hands, maybe he is thinking you have my hands, you can see my hands. he is confused which adds to the terror. what i really want to point out is during this entire video, there were, there were things that were happening that did not match what was being said and in particular, there is a place in this video with dispatcher asking for charges, no one says anything. and so it made me wonder, is this typical? is this something that this unit does all of the time. no one could even explain why he was stopped. we hear reckless driving but the chiefs, we don't have any evidence that there was reckless driving. so is this a trend of some sort? is this something that they do nightly? that is my question. >> he has retired, lots of question. retired captain, sonia pruitt, as always we thank you. coming up everybody, by the way on politicsnation, reverend al sharpton will speak to the parents of tyre nichols, along

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for our family. raising people who are waving on television with police brutality applauded when one of nancy pelosi's officers unarmed woman was murdered that's exactly what that was. far more clearly than anything you just saw on the video that we played. >> so we don't know the toxicology report. we don't know if this guy was on something that they hit him with the pepper spray, it just tonight really affect him. we don't have an autopsy from the city, and official autopsy. i mediately you, know i did not see any death blows. >> so that was the reaction by some right-wing media after seeing the brutal and deadly beating of an armed man, tyre nichols. michael steele joining the, now a former rnc chair and msnbc political analyst. michael, as always great to

talk to about this stuff. we know how the right-wing media thinks about this. we just showed it to folks. not surprising, it really isn't. my question though is, we talked about this a bit earlier on the show. we had the president now saying, okay get the george floyd justice and policing act fast right? you look at a republican-led house, mccarthy led house. who has vowed to investigate the president of the united states, and not much else beyond that. what is the likelihood although, we got statements from tim scott, i know. about the release of this video. what is the likelihood they would even come halfway here? something can be done? >> what they have to do is go across the street to the house all right? he has to get in that caucus with the republicans and tell them why this is important. you just can't say, oh you know i am ready and we will move on this, all of this video is horrible, it sandra. you have to galvanize the will

behind the effort. if you believe what is coming out of your mouth, then you have to follow it up with a persistent and consistent effort to make the change. we have seen, there's been in this room before. we have seen the movie, we have read the story and we know the narrative. it is like any other thing related to guns, it is like any other thing that's related to the killing of young black man. nothing happens. so if you are serious, the newly elected black republicans in the house, tim scott and the senate and then this is a moment when you galvanize your white colleagues around protecting your community as they would protect any other americans. otherwise, shut up and we will handle this at the ballot box. we will handle it in other ways but, i am tired of playing this game where everybody comes out and beats their breast and sympathy but then jasmine, they do nothing about it to follow

up and actually put the press on the people who are standing and the way as an obstacle. >> you make such a brilliant point michael steele, i am not just saying that the flatter you okay? because it's a point that i well which is how bad does it need to get right? how many times do you need to go to uvalde, texas to get gun reform legislation right? how many times do you need to see someone like kyrie brutally beaten and this video. george floyd with a knee on his neck for nine minutes for something to actually happen. how bad does it need to get? i will read for folks are part of the statement from senator tim scott so they can understand. he said the footage is drawing and unnerving, we cannot let the pain of the nichols family be unveiled. let us listen to the plea and make our voices heard, peacefully in a productive way that forwards the cause of justice in a more just america. it serves as a call to action with lawmakers that every looked full. every level call to action, and

lawmaker. as anybody in the house that would even hear him if in fact he decided to walk across the street? >> look, that remains to be seen. you have to make the walk first. it is one thing not to, walk it's another to walk and get in the room and no one listens to you. and you know exactly where we stand. then it's obvious, we know where you stand because you are carrying that message of the pain of the family into that caucus to try and do something. if the caucus respond says pound the sand, okay than you know. then your partner up with others in the senate and democrats in the house to make the change that you need to make. but don't said here and pretend that you know, these words of sympathy are just going to be the bone that we will need on the souls right now. this video is not just jarring, it is heart wrecking. it is so disturbing on so many

levels and going back to what was said in the last segment by the retired captain, this touches cuts deep in the black community that block police officers, knowing the narrative in that community. knowing the experience of black men in relation to the policing in this country would do that. what so this respect, not just a community but their own families. it is so many aspects of this that are just tough to swallow right now. >> yes, michael steele, as always thank you for lending your time. appreciate it sir. after the break everybody, i know many of you asked why i was not in this chair over the past couple of weeks. maybe you didn't but sounded. i will finally tell you why. and what it taught me, hopefully. that is coming up next. coming up next

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my body though was pretty certain not to believe that the reflux. the next, day december 30th i woke up with severe pains, both in my chest and my left shoulder. it was like a tightening in my chest. i took a deep breath, that got worse. when i was laying flat. i knew enough that moment to understand that it could mean, could is the key word here that i was having a heart attack, especially because it was happening on the left part of my shoulder. i want to remind you, around seven miles 3 to 4 times a week, or i did. i do yoga, i don't eat meat, i don't smoke. i drink occasionally, not right now though because my doctor tells me that i can't. aside from probably not getting enough sleep and working to, much i'm a pretty healthy person. on that day, i was anything but. my husband drove me to the emergency room and from there, the nightmare that has been my january began. i was diagnosed with pericarditis, inflammation of the lining of my heart. brought on by a virus, a literal comment cold. i also had fluid around my heart, that had to be drained

or else it could hinder the beating of my heart. i was hospitalized for four nights and transferred from a local hospital to nyu lying here in new york city. on january 4th, i was finally discharged after doctors drain the fluid among my heart and i bounced out of the hospital, i cannot get out of their fast enough. with the hopes, i was on the mend but that was not the end. three days later, i was readmitted when i felt a flutter in my heart, like a butterfly, it was inside of my chest. they determined i had developed myocarditis, inflammation of the actual heart now. the heart muscle. i remember being shefford to the emergency room and remembering, is this it? it was not, thank god. instead, i spent five more days in the hospital where they ran a battery test to adjust my meds and make sure not thing else was fueling what was happening. and in fact in the end, it was still just the cold that was doing all of this. it had caused all of this information in and around my heart.

since, then this thing has continued to wax and wane, the hope is i am on the mend and on the other side. now i will be on medication for some time to come. it is not the most fun but alas, i am getting older. i need to admit that. one man who has helped me through all of it, and shepherd me through my ups and downs and my emotions and my families as well as my cardiologist, dr. greg cat. he joins me now because supposedly, this happens. it seems to be happening a lot these days. it is great to see you outside of the hospital by the way. >> so nice to have that achy gene from the nervous to know about how it will look. >> may not crying in front of you. >> what happened? how does everybody asked me, how does a cold go to your heart? >> so it is not so much the cold itself that is going to your heart, it is the way your body is responding to the cold. your immune system for most of us just takes a couple of days to clear the virus and we have the standard runny nose, sore throat, that kind of stuff and

itself limited and goes away. but for a small proportion of people, they get an overactive immune response. they can have inflammation and lots of different areas. inflammation of the sack around the heart, pericarditis. you first we're dealing with it, it's an unfortunate thing that we see sometimes. we have been seeing it a little bit more this year than other years. it is not unheard, of it is rare but it is not the rarest. >> are there some people that are more likely to develop a situation like this than others? >> i wish i knew the answer to that. >> you know the answer to so much. >> i know the answer to so much, not this one. anybody tells you, they are misleading them or misleading themselves. truthfully, there is some conditions like lupus or like other auto immune conditions where people can get this related to that disease, the overactive immune response to a virus is very unpredictable. it happened to, you take it up to anybody. >> the, asked the lucky thing was followed in the hospital and selective doctor katz on board with me because he

literally scanned every part of my body. while i was dealing with this inflammation, we also try to figure out if anything else was going on and then got, nothing else was. going on but you talk about how you have seen more of this kind of anecdotally. there is not a lot of scientific to back that up, especially kind of post covid? right post lockdown. we are in a different era of diseases, how our bodies are responding right? >> yes i, mean nobody knows exactly why this is and whether it's a standard blip or whether my anecdotal experience is a little bit skewed but it could be the season it's a little bit more virus heavy than usual. maybe our immune systems are a little bit different than they were because they have been masking and social distancing for a couple of years. i certainly don't, no i don't think anybody really knows. it is definitely the kind of thing that you want to be aware of what the symptoms are so that you can seek medical attention if you really need it. >> let's talk about, that i dealt with this thing for ten days up until i actually went and sought out medical care who told me it was reflux.

want to name names who said that. wawhat are the symptoms? what should people look out for? right you can get you know bronchitis, get pain in your chest and they can really be something that is in and out. then there are things that are more serious, like what i. had whatever symptoms that you should be looking out for in a situation like this? >> the classic symptoms of pericarditis are chest pain that is for us when you are lying down, in bed or sitting up. it can be worse when you take a deep breath in but the thing that you have been telling me about is this feeling like something is off with my body. fevers, chills, kind of like nonspecific symptoms. they're feeling that something is wrong is the kind of time when you should be thinking i should get this checked out. listening to your body and being attention to what is telling you is really important. we have all had a cold, we have all recovered from it. sometimes that recovery is a little bit, different not a bad idea to just make sure that you are being checked out. >> are there ways and you probably don't necessarily have a straight line or entered this that people can protect themselves from developing a situation like this? or is it completely kind of not

avoidable? >> it seems to be what doctors call idiopathic which means nobody has any idea. if there was a way of preventing, it we would be shutting it from the rooftops but there really isn't. and so, it is the same common precautions you would take with anything, wash your hands, don't touch your face. stay home when you are sick, the usual stuff. >> how was i as a patient? >> like a maze saying, amazing to see somebody who would do the research on their own and ask smart questions but ultimately not be persuaded by something that they read on google that i disagreed with. and willing to sort of take my second guessing of myself and talks with a different treatment options and i really thoughtful and wants way. and so a pleasure to work with. >> i hope everyone has the opportunity to have a doctor like doctor katz who asked me and the lowest of my love moment, said to me how scared are you? and then set to, may put all of

your nerves and a box because we are on this for you and we are taking care of it. that allowed me to finish netflix. and i told him that today when he came on television, i said how scared of you? put it in a box, i will take care of you on set. thank you doctor katz, appreciate it so much for all the carrier given me and will continue to get me over the the next few months. >> i'm glad you are feeling to get to be on the show. >> i will get a checkup after i get out of here. why do i take away from all of this right? my life lessons. take nothing for granted, you may be doing everything in life right as i felt like i was and a cold and a virus can become so much more. to no fault of your, own the best advocate that you have in your life is yourself, as dr. self cat said listen to your body. the only person, look at all the amazing pictures of me in the hospital. the only person who knows how you feel are what you are feeling is when you need help if you, don't like the expectations of your family or your work ever get in your way. they will all be waiting there for you and would rather rate for you to come back then never come back at all. listen to your body, make good

choices. don't let experiences that change your challenge you fall by the wayside and resume life as is. let it be a teaching moment for what you want to be and recognize your boundaries and values because your health and your families and your friends are number one. be good to yourself. thank you guys all for your support of messages, i have received over the last month and i am so happy to be back in this chair. that wraps it up for, me i'm yasmin vossoughian. simone picks things up next after a very quick break. . i heard about the payroll tax refund that allowed us to keep the people that have been here taking care of us. learn more at getrefunds.com. every day, millions of things need to get to where they're going. and at chevron, we're working to help reduce the carbon intensity of the fuels that keep things moving. today, we're producing renewable diesel that can be used in existing diesel tanks. and we're committed to increasing

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