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former memphis police officers whose encounter with motorist tyre nichols, ultimately ended his death three weeks ago are facing potentially life-changing punishment themselves. all five now facing second degree murder charges in addition to several others. two deputies that arrived after the police beating of nichols have now been relieved of duty pending investigation. at the county prosecutor is not ruling out additional charges. as tonight attorneys for two of the former officers, desmond mills and desmond mills junior and emmett martin the third, say their clients plan to plead not guilty. we are also getting word of this afternoon that the so-called scorpion special police unit they were part of has been disbanded. also tonight, the white house is balancing the message of

sympathy for the nichols's family and community with calls for calm on the streets of memphis where demonstrators are still reacting to the police body cam footage released by the city late last night. footage that i will continue to caution our viewers is disturbing, showing at least some of the events, the traffic stop, the foot pursuit, and the violent arrest that sent nichols to the hospital where he died three days later. i have the solemn on our, as head of national action network, of eulogizing nichols next week in memphis. and that is where we begin tonight. joining me now, is rowvaughn wells, tyre's mother. rodney, wells his stepfather. and representing the family, civil rights attorney and the attorney general of black america, then crumb. attorney crumb, mr., wells mrs., wells we appreciate you joining us tonight. at this very difficult time.

before i get to the charges filed against these officers, your reaction to the body camera footage of tyrese's arrest released last night in the city of memphis. as an activist and apparent, it is never lost on me that no matter what the actions of city takes after a tragedy like this, no matter what kind of verdict comes out of a trial, no matter what words of encouragement to get from the public, even from the president who i know reached out to you, none of that will bring your son back. >> mr. welsh, we will start with you. mrs. wells will join in a moment. mr. welsh, how are you holding up? >> not bad, sir. it has been a very difficult time. our family has been through a lot these past few weeks. >> as you have been through a lot, and navigated through it, you have also been clear minded, you and mrs. wells, that you

want justice for your son and that is all you are pleading for is justice. and at the same time, saying don't thomas your son's name with any violence. let's focus on justice and stopping this. >> correct, yes sir. that has been our focus from the beginning. violence will not bring your son back. and the people that are out there being violent, they are doing it on their own. this is not -- . >> now, that brings us to the body camera footage released last night, mr.. welsh it was a release you and your wife had authority of since the arrest. i have to get a caution my audience that the footage is graphic showing part of the car chase that preceded york suns arrest followed by subsequent beating that resulted in his hospitalization. >> yes. you can see the footage.

>> tonight, all five officers are facing charges in addition to two counts of official misconduct, two counts of aggravated kidnapping, one count of official oppression, and one count of aggravated assault. brother rodney, i understand that you wanted first degree murder charges but you have since come to endorse the second degree murder charges feeling that, in your, words they will stick now that you have seen the officer's conduct in your own lives. do you still think these charges fit? >> you yes sir. >> what we don't want to happen is to go to trial and they get off on a technicality. they seem to have an ironclad case and so we are going to get forward with it. >> mrs. wells, you are the mother. you have spoke with such passion, i don't think anyone that has been raised by a mother couldn't feel the pain

of looking at a mother. i was raised by a single mother. and when you told the story of how your son even had a tattoo of you on his arm. i know that kind of love between mother and son. tell us about your son, tell us what kind of person tyre was and what kind of person you want the world to know that you lost. >> terry was just a beautiful person and he was full of life, as you can see. he loved to skateboard. he loved to watch the sunset. he was a great dad. and he was just around about good person as i mentioned before. there's no perfect person in this world, but he was close to it. >> and, the thing that also

struck me is that you have said that you pray for everybody involved. you have talked on the phone and sending mr. welsh. you have not shown any acrimony. you have been stronger than probably many of the families i have worked with down through the years. so i would imagine that that is kind of the kind of strength you gave your son. >> yes it was. i gave that strength to all my children. they came from my mom, her mom. but i have to say strong because i do have other children. i have my mother, and we have other family members that we just have to stay strong for. >> attorney crump, out enough to tell you how this usually goes when you have a high profile case of police misconduct like this. the local police union goes into public relations mode and start circling the wagons around the officers in question. we saw it in minneapolis after

george floyd's murder. here in new york after the killing of eric gardener. we are seeing it right now in another case you are involved with the police killing of keenan anderson earlier this month in los angeles. more than a week after these five memphis cops were fired and two days after they were all charged with second degree murder. the memphis police association just responded in the last day since the video was released condemning those five officers conduct and pledging its quote, commitment to justice. what do you take from that? >> well, reverend al, you have been my mentor for a long time and we have worked through the years and i want to thank you on behalf of the family for all you were assistance and agreeing to you little eulogized tyre nichols on wednesday. that is so important. to keep the attention on. when we look at these charges,

these terminations, these arrests have been-ing so swiftly, reverend al. we have to look at what chief davis said. she said that it was important for the community to see swift action and a cease with justice. well, on all those other cases, reverend al. we now have a blueprint going forward when we see police commit crimes on video where it happened. look why mcdonald, ej braff and in alabama, tamir rice, they had clear-cut video on all of those cases, but yet they would tell us that we had to investigate for six months to a year. now at these five black police officers, being terminated, arrested, and charged in less than 20 days, they can never tell that to us again because if you are standing for equal

justice, it shouldn't matter whether the police officers were white or black. when they commit a crime, but we should cease with justice. >> now i want to just express my condolences again and my honor that you had me as head of national action network, eulogize your son's funeral on wednesday. hearing the anger from you, both of you contests how quickly indictments came down in this case compared with so many other police killings, i wonder if these officers are ultimately convicted, is there more you want to see at a federal level on this issue, mr. and mrs. wells in terms of laws. what do you, mrs., wells want your son to be remembered as? i was struck by two things i heard you say. one that you felt something in new, some unsettled-ness in your stomach at a time you later believe your son was calling for you. and you also said you feel that your son was on assignment.

explain that? >> yes. in order to keep me going, this has been very difficult for me. like i said, i have to stay strong from my other kids but i believe in my heart that my son was here on assignment from god. he finished his assignment, and god took him back home. even though this tragedy happened to my son, i truly believe that if there is going to be a greater good that comes out of this, that is what keeps me going and continuing to fight this justice for my son. because i'm not going to stop until every person that had anything to do with my son's death is prosecuted to the fullest of the law. >> there are those that were

involved in any of these mishaps. as a mother, if they are watching, what would you say to them tonight? >> i didn't hear you, i'm. sorry >> as a mother, if any of those that were involved in what happened to your dear son, if they are watching tonight, what would you say to them? what would you want them to hear from you as a result of what happened to your child? >> well, they shamed their own families. i mean, you came to our own families. you shamed the communities. you just brought a bad team least to everybody's mouth. i don't know. i just. >> it wasn't me calling you this time. >> it's just, everybody has been calling. we forgot to turn the phone down, i'm sorry.

>> i understand. but, you said they shamed the their families. >> i want people to know that i'm very upset about this. i hate the fact that it was five black men that actually did this to another black man. my son probably was their age. they just brought disgrace to themselves. i am not an evil person. my son is not an evil person. we are going to forgive these people. i actually am going to pray for their families because their families didn't deserve any of this either. they just brought disgrace to everyone. >> wow. and you called on peace, you and mr. welsh have said that starting today you want justice but you want people to pursue it in a nonviolent way. >> correct. >> yes. my son was not a violent person. he didn't like confrontation. he was a free spirited person.

and that is how i want everyone to remember him. he was just a godsend. that is what he was, he was a godsend. and everybody out there, believe, me i appreciate everything you guys are doing. all the activists, all the protesters, lord, you have my blessing. but let's do this in peace, everyone. because we don't need to tear up our cities where we live. we just need to do this in peace and let everybody know that we can get a point across peacefully. >> all right, well my sincere thanks to mr. and mrs. wells. of course, we will be talking and i will see you at the top of the week. i am again honored that you have me come to do the eulogy. i will see you in memphis in a day or so. attorney crump, you stay with me for a moment. i want to pivot another battle you are fighting right now. earlier this week, you joined some florida high school honor

students morning governor ron desantis that a lawsuit may be coming on their behalf. if he does not to reconsider the state's decision to block an advanced placement, african american studies courtroom being piloted in florida high schools. desantis, who has signed multiple laws centering discussion of race, gender, and sexual identity in florida public schools argued this week that this ap course is educational trojan horse. that would indoctrinate students with a left wing ideology because it incorporates diverse viewpoints on the black experience. some of which the governor poses. i want to ask you to share too much about the legal strategy, but our audience would be interested to hear what legal rights of these students is the desantis administration violating in your view? >> reverend al, what is clear to us is it's a violation of the first amendment and the 14th amendment. the fact that he is trying to

censor education in 2023. this is america where we celebrate the free exchange of ideas. this is not communist russia or china where we censor free thoughts. and so, we what we are standing on as the precedents held by george marc walker recently against the stop woke act. and we believe our children have a right to be taught ap african american studies, because black history is american history. >> and of course, attorney crump will be giving the call to action at the funeral and we are going to stay together even when the media is gone as we have always done to get justice today degree we can get justice. we can return we can't return tyre, but we can certainly make sure that his death helps to change the laws as his parents

have said. thank you, attorney general of black america ben crump for being with us tonight. >> thank you, reverend al. >> joining me now is congressman john garamendi, a democrat of california. congressman, first of all thank you for joining us. i want to give you the opportunity to express your thoughts on what we just heard from the family of tyre nichols, and the attorney. and especially on the renewed call for legislation for police reform. congressman, i have been fighting saying that if we had the george floyd justice and policing act passed that these policeman would have had to think about qualified immunity wasn't gonna protect them, their conduct might be different. what do you have to say about what has happened and about pending legislation possibly happening? >> well, the wells are extraordinary people. i can only imagine. in fact, more than imagined. my wife and i, we have six children. and not a day goes by, not an

eye hour goes by that those children are not in our thoughts. their, held their safety, their well-being. and, miss wells is just extraordinary an extraordinary individual. in all of her sadness, she is still strong for her family, but also for the community and whether community should do. so, thank you miss wells. thank you for all that you are doing in your sadness and in facing the reality that you lost your son. you lost your son to the most violent of circumstances. so, we will see what comes of all of this. hopefully the result of this additional extraordinary violent attack on an individual, and african american individual, will cost congress particularly the u.s. senate, and now the house of representatives under the republican control to reconsider the george floyd

justice act which has the kind of programs that are necessary. every police department across this nation. that they re-proper training, that there be training on racial issues, on profiling, and all of the injustice that does exist racially in our society. that the police understand this. and that there be other programs put in place, training programs and accountability programs as you said reverend. the police need to be held accountable also, my view is that there ought to be a's in philly and review board in every police department all across this nation. although the legislation doesn't deal specifically with that, we have to deal with the reality that police violence is there. and beyond, that there is violence in our communities. gun safety or guns are available all too often. we have had the tragedies in california over this last week. so, we've got a lot of issues.

a lot of issues in our community, and we need to address those. federal legislation, state and city, all of us have a responsibility. >> and i might add that many of us are concerned about crime in the community as well as police. but if police break the law, they are criminals. this is not to say that we wouldn't want to see criminals dealt with, but if they are criminals. and we don't want the police dealing with innocent people that are not criminals. but with that i have to move to another graphic video released yesterday. police security body camera footage from october 28th, the night your colleague, congresswoman nancy pelosi's house with broken into. in it we see her husband paul attacked by an assailant with a hammer. i don't have to remind you that several prominent republicans, including some lawmakers, made light of the attack at the time. what was your reaction, congressman, now haven't seen that video yourself?

>> well, i have known the pelosi's for more than 40 years. they have been dear friends of ours in california through many many years, and now here in congress. paul pelosi is an extraordinary kind, gentle individual. my speaker pelosi, i looked at that in horror. knowing what the result of that attack was, knowing how grievously harmed he was by that attack, also i am disgusted, just thoroughly disgusted with my colleagues in congress that made light of it and even to this moment, many of them have not even acknowledged that the attack occurred and, more importantly, have not acknowledged that their rhetoric that has been attacking speaker pelosi for more than 20 years resulted in an individual taking up a hammer, entering the building in the dead of the night, and

then setting out to attack the speaker and ultimately attacking her husband. >> now following those three mass shootings that rocked california last weekend. in which nearly 20 people were killed in less than 48 hours with semi automatic pistols used in at least two of those shootings. president biden once again called on both chambers of congress to deliver legislation banning assault weapons, expressing support for bills introduced by senate democrats this week. one it would ban military style weapons and high capacity magazines, another that would raise the purchase age for assault weapons from 18 to 21. of course, democrats do not have the votes to pass either bill, and in the house they are the majority minority. in california, assault weapons and high capacity magazines are already banned. so, to those questioning what a national ban would do in this

case, what do you say? >> do it. for god sakes, do it. we do not need these weapons anywhere in this nation. the military, yeah, you are going to need as weapons because you go to war. we don't need these weapons. 1988, i authored in the california state senate, the first ban on assault weapons following that first assault weapon assault in a school with five, six children killed and another dozen or so injured. we do not want assault weapons. the house of representatives last year tasked, send over to the senate and assault weapons ban. the senate failed to act. couldn't meet the necessary votes for the filibuster. great, start again in the senate. my view, is every single week we in the house of representatives should be, should have the responsibility of voting yes or no on assault weapons. every week, another vote. bring it up. the good news, if there's any

about the republicans taking control is, there is a better opportunity under their rules for us to move to a vote on assault weapons ban. and, i should be held accountable. my 434 colleagues in the house of representatives, they should be accountable. are you supporting or are you yes or are you know on assault weapons? >> congressman john garamendi, thank you for your time this evening. after the break, turning outrage into accountability, this is a look at a peaceful protest happening right now into in memphis tennessee. following the death of tyre nichols, i will tell you what we can all do in the days to come to make sure he did not die in vain. but first, my colleague richard louis with today's top news stories. richard? >> rev, every good saturday to you. israeli police reporting two people were hurt when a gunman opened fire in jerusalem.

this shooting comes one day after several people were killed near a synagogue friday. yesterday's attack was the deadliest in the city since 2008. russian attacks on ukraine intensified after western allies promised to give ukraine tanks. the aftermath of those attacks seen right here. ukraine continues to battle troops in the east and northeast as well. facing rounds of artillery bombardments. and now to a fourth mass shooting in california just this month, this morning three were shot dead and four injured at a party near beverly hills. two are in critical condition. no information on the suspect there. more politics nation, with reverend al sharpton, right after this break. after this break after this break we're talking about... rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity yep, it's back. for a limited time. the six dollar rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity combo. 2 eggs, 2 bacon strips, and 2 fruit topped pancakes. only from ihop.

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time the events that took place a few weeks ago in memphis tennessee that led to the death of 29 year old tyre nichols. once again, we are forced to watch another horrific video of cops using brutal force against a black man. nearly three years after the murder of george floyd shook the world, here we are. we would think these videos of black lives being snuffed out after interactions with the police would be enough to change americans hearts and minds. and yet, here we are still waiting for real reform to the way policing is conducted in this country. justice needs to be delivered for tyre and his family. i don't think anyone who could stomach getting through this footage would disagree. those who got to protests in memphis and in other places around the country, i urge you to raise your voices. but also respect the families

called to remain nonviolent. we are all outraged. but anyone who escalates demonstration into destruction only plays into the hands of those who want to stand in the way of changing progress. i know that at least two of the defendants plan to plead not guilty. i also know that the incident is still considered an alleged murder at this stage. and that the official cause of death has not yet been released. but, the sad reality is, police brutality will be n ever-present threat for brown black and brown americans, unless cops continually see that those who use unnecessary force will be how held accountable. the need to understand that a badge isn't to shield. that lets them kill someone during a traffic stop. and the only way to do that through convictions and legislations. i think the justice department for opening the civil rights

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i want to first give you the opportunity to say a few words on the tyre nichols killing, especially as a former mayor and former congresswoman who had to deal with issues of policing and policing legislation and, you and i have worked and talked about this together. so i want to give you that opportunity, madam secretary. >> thank you so very much, reverent. certainly my heart goes out to the nichols family. mr. nichols, a young man who had such an outstanding future ahead of him. and i would say, reverend, as i listen to people talk about their thoughts and prayers, it is obviously not enough. it is time for us to stop this. and today, i issue a press release that basically said that, law enforcement, and i have great respect for the law enforcement. i worked on in a prosecutor's office. i was a former mayor who dealt with police officers. the majority are good. but the good ones and know who the bad ones are. and it is time for them to step

up and stand up and make sure that these people are not in our communities. there are so many things that we can do, but that is a good start. because if they are not on these police forces, they cannot continue to brutalize and kill black young people. >> let's shift attention now to the biden administration's efforts to help renters. many renters are feeling the effects of housing inflation faster and more directly than most homeowners. even though they tend to have lower incomes and less savings. this, week the white house put out about a blueprint for renters bill of rights that would set guidelines to help renters stay in affordable housing. talk to me about what these proposed rights are and why they are so important? >> reverend, i think it is important to understand that some 44 million people and your family is live in rental housing in this country.

44 million. so, what the president and vice president in this administration have done is try to be sure that they know their rights. so, so often they are victims of their landlords, they are victims of the system, they are victims of their own people, quite frankly. people who are supposed to be there to help dodo's help. so what we want to be sure of is that people know their rights. know that they have a right to fight eviction, that they have a right to live in a decent and clean place, know that they have a right to be able to go to court or have representation when they find that they are not being treated fairly. so really, it was just to reinforce that people do have rights. and you are not always going to be at the mercy of people event from. it is really just not that simple. >> earlier this month, the office reintroduce a proposed rule directing the department of housing and urban development to take steps to remedy the effects of racial

discrimination and housing. for people who don't know the history, discuss all the way back to the fair housing act which was signed into law in 1968 just one week after martin luther king junior was assassinated. not only did the law prohibit housing discrimination, but it required the government take affirmative steps to eliminate disparities and housing. however, it took until late in the obama administration for this part of the law to finally be put into effect and then president trump canceled the initiative in 2020. what are you doing now to fulfill this promise that was made so long ago? >> well, the fair housing act that was passed in 1968 basically requires us to proactively find ways to eradicate segregation, discrimination, and to promote housing choice.

so what the rule is going to do, really, is require communities to put forth plans and had as well. to put forth plans to tell us how they are going to address racial discrimination and segregation. the other thing it is going to do, and i think very strongly do, they say to the american people once and for all that fair housing is the law of the land and hug is going to enforce the law. we are no longer going to allow people to just let anything happen in their communities. so, we are required and a plan that we at hud have to approve. we are going to make it clear that the public has input. we are going to put it on live. we are going to make everybody aware what they promised to do. and that is the only way we believe that we can fulfill the promise of the fair housing act. we are going to do our part and we are going to require the communities to theirs. >> secretary lead based paint was banned in the 1970s. however, lead still remains in the paint of roughly 37 million

structures in the united states. you held a summit on friday with vice president kamala harris to talk about new resources to combat the problem, including nearly 500 and $70 million in funding for lead removal from -- . how will this money be used? >> well, first let me say that the president and vice president have made clear to all of us across all of government that the expectation is that every american would be able to drink clean water, breathe clean air, places that are healthy, that don't make them sick. clearly we know that lead paint is one of the major problems in housing today. there is no safe level of lead. and we are losing children in particular to the debilitating effects of led every single year. so what we have said is that this is such a huge problem, that we are going to address these communities, especially

cork imports meters where housing is older. so we are focused on housing that is in inner cities, that was built prior to 1978, housing that we know children live in and are affected by lead. and so, we have just this month issued a request for persons to apply to us for some 500 and almost $70 million. and we are allowing these communities to determine how best to apply those resources to communities who we know are in situations where lead is prominent. so, it is not the first time we have done it. we are going to add another 200 and $90 million. and it is going to affect not just public housing, but private housing as well. so, we are hopeful that by the time these resources have been allocated, which will probably be sometime in may, that we can have a major and direct effect on people who are being poisoned by lead in their

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it let's now bring in my political panel. i'm joined here in studio by susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc contributor. and, danielle moodie, host of the woke a f daily podcast. danielle, i want to first start with you. the video of tyre nichols being brutally beaten by the memphis police is raising a lot of questions to what prompted the officers to respond the way they did after a traffic stop. many americans are outraged by what they've seen. but are you expecting any policy response from congress or further executive action from the white house? >> rev, we are two years removed from george floyd on the world stopping during a health pandemic to go out onto the streets and protest. we thought that there was political will there. but, the reality here is that it is republicans that are

blocking police reform. they don't want to touch qualified immunity which allows cops to get away with the brutality that we just witnessed. so, the idea here is not about both sides. it is about republicans deciding that blue lives matter more than everyone else's lives, and that in case when we are looking at say, january 6th, they weren't standing up for the cops and because the cops are standing up for democracy. so they want to have it both ways. but it is up for the people to the people to demand that we need change. there's too many hash. aims to many names, too many mothers that we see broken. too many black families broken apart because of police brutality and white vigilantism. it is not okay. >> susan, congress's failure to pass the george floyd justice and policing act of 2021, which was approved by the house and stalled in the senate, stalled momentum for law enforcement overall. on thursday, president biden renewed his call for congress to pass a policing bill and

president biden to do an executive order. but now, it is not only the senate that filibuster that standing in the way, we also have a republican controlled house. where does that leave things? >> no. where they are not going to go anywhere at this point, rev. it is a republican house with one agenda, to go after joe biden and conduct investigations. they have no interest in governing. but what is important, i also thing to take into mind when we start looking at how progress gets made, i am florida how quickly these officers were fired, and then charged. and that was not anything to do with washington. that form of temporary justice, i will call, that until the trial, that's happened because of the elected officials and the police commissioner on the ground. >> yeah, that police. chief >> that police chief, and the da. everyone was doing everything, and the other big takeaway there for me was, >> it showed us that all of this, we need months to investigate, will

never go for that. again >> she also said something interesting in the interview was that she had it easier than other police departments around the country in being able to take certain actions. and i don't know if the union contract is, but that could be it. but, the other thing that was also outstanding, and again a criminal justice reform bill very important. but, it won't solve the problem of training. these guys were young. we haven't heard much about that. they were like 24 to 32. they had been on the force for 2 to 5. years >> which is why the wire than in the league department if they haven't had a lot of training. >> but here's the, think this is what people need to understand. we can't train out anti-blackness. you have to grab it up for the route. and it doesn't matter whether the officers were white or black, this is part of a systemic, this is systemic racism. this is how we see black people, black bodies, we don't see the humanity in them and that is what is trained. >> i have said publicly and some disagree, i don't think these black crops would have done that if that was a white

motorist. but let me switch gears before i ran out of time with you susan, former president trump's treasury secretary is speaking out over racist comments trump made about her. she was his cabinet member. in a truth social post monday, in the wake of the tragic mass shootings involving asian americans in california, trump attacked chao with a nickname he has repeatedly used to highlighter ethnicity. in a statement shared with nbc can drumming trump's comment, chao wrote import part, quote, when i was young some people deliberately misspelled or mispronounced my name. asian americans have worked hard to change that experience for the next generation. he doesn't seem to understand that. which says a whole lot more about him than it will ever say about asian americans. and a quote. susan, are we seeing a larger

writ opening in the republican party over trump's racism, or is this just the same old story. susan, briefly, and then danielle. >> what took her so long? he's called are these things many times and now she is stepping up? so, i am a little bewildered by it. is it important that, it is never too late to do the right thing. so i'm glad she did. it that is important. maybe it allows others to step up. i think it does show some weakness of trump and people are not living in fear of him. >> danielle? >> the reality is she's here served in his cabinet. he was a racist before, them he was racist during your administration, germany's and raise a sense. so, her decision to wake up now, good for her. but where was she the entire time that we watch donald trump come down that escalator and serve out his four-year term. she was silent. >> susan el presidio, daniel moody, thank you both for being with us. more politics nation after the break.

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tonight, i want to say a few final words about the tyre nichols case. i'm encouraged that indictments were handed down relatively quickly, and the officers will have to answer for their actions in court. but i was pleased to hear this afternoon that so-called scorpion special unit of the memphis police department has been deactivated >> however, there are still many questions we don't have answers to. for one, the police videos do not show the reason why nichols was first stopped. the officers have said it was for reckless driving, by the memphis police chief said her department has been unable to find evidence to back this up. later in that video, right after the beating, and you can hear one of the officers saying nichols had his hand on he is gonna. but we do not see this happening on the video. when thing is for sure, these

details probably are of no consequence to the nichols family as tyre is gone. moving forward it is totally normal to express sorrow, anger, and exhaustion that the protests across this country should remain nonviolent and peaceful. that's what the family asks. do not tarnish tyre nichols with you or violence. thanks for watching. a see you back here at 5 pm eastern for another live hour of politicsnation. american voices with alicia menendez starts right now. >> thank you so much. hello i'm melissa mendez, it's been a new york, 5:00 memphis turn tennessee. the community is working to process the violent death of 29 year old tyre nichols. demonstrators returned to the streets of memphis demanding more voices and accountability. beyond memphis we have seen protests pop up today in los angeles,