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country. velshi starts now. good morning to you. it is sunday, january the 28. i'm ali velshi. demonstrators in major cities around the country took to the streets again yesterday after the memphis police department released footage of the brutal beating of tyre nichols by five members of its own police force. in the continuing aftermath, memphis pd announced yesterday that it has permanently deactivated its scorpion unit. scorpion what the departments anti violence group which has been under scrutiny in recent days after it became public that all five of the police officers who were fired, arrested, and charged with second degree murder in nichols death where members of the unit. joining me now from memphis, tennessee, is nbc's antonia hylton who have been covering the story from the beginning. antonia. welcome -- tell us a bit about this new development with the scorpion unit, of which all five of these police officers were

members. >> ali, i was actually with protesters yesterday as that news came down. people were cheering. saying that this is a win for them. part of the kind of action and accountability response that they wanted to see from the memphis police department. for most of those folks it is not enough. they highly doubt, in the words in conversations that i've had with residents here, these five officers would be the only five in the scorpion unit who they feel are worth arcing into. they have a lot of questions about the culture in that unit. for any viewer who maybe doesn't have enough context of what these units are supposed to do, they are something like a scorpion unit in most major cities in the united states. they are supposed to be these elite squads. often these officers are handpicked. they are supposed to focus on major crime reduction strategies. they are supposed to be going out to big guys. gangs, removing guns off the streets stopping carjackings that kind of stuff. they are not beat cops. they are not really supposed to be doing traffic stops, traffic violations.

there is a lot of questions among residents here on how this interaction with tyre nichols ever start in the first place. why would these officers ever respond to reckless driving? if, at the time, we don't actually have any evidence of tyre nichols was engaged in that. even if he was. they want to know more about this unit. one person even said to me if they can disband it so quickly, was it ever necessary in the first place? i think in the coming days, even though they are grateful it has now been deactivated, they are going to hear a push from accountability from activists, family members, people on the ground, to understand more on what was happening there. i want you to listen to a conversation i had with one resident group grateful to hear that 15 it had been deactivated. again, it feels like a lot more needs to be done here in the city of memphis. >> i think i cried 1000 times. my eyes gets watery now. i think i cried 1000 times. see a man be in like that. it is worse than rodney king. it is worth in that. this man is gone. he has no life. to hear a young man call for

his mama. i have a son, i have a black son, to hear this man call for his mama. that turns a mother of side down to hear that. those are words i never want to hear. to see my son, to hear him on tv to hear my sign call for his mama to take his last breath. that is not what i was. -- i wish it had never happen. my son is nine years old >> the exact same age. >> your son is 29? >> he is. to see that, that does something doing mother on any level, no matter what it is. >> the hurt here runs really deep, ali. i asked her, have you ever trusted mpd? she said, no. for most black residents here that has never been faith in this police department. the incident with tyre nichols, his death, his -- widening the division here. now that the police chief,

davis, people give her credit for the amount that she has come out. she has spoken to reporters like me. the da has come out unanswered questions. they have set a new standard for transparency. the expectation now from residents is, well, you can never go back to what we felt it was before. which was this feeling that the black community was begging for answers. things were not transparent. they did not feel like they moved quickly enough on the issues that matter to black residents. they now feel like, okay. if you can do it this way for tyre. if you can move this quickly against these five officers, we don't ever wanted to go back to business as usual, ali. >> antonia, you made a reference to this, in the beginning -- we don't see the beginning of the video. we don't see when they pulled over tyre nichols. we don't know what the background to that was. we heard a 9-1-1 conversation -- or a dispatch conversation with the police which is very unclear. it is very unclear. it is not articulated properly why it is they are pulling him over. you say the scorpion unit, the

antibiotic crime unit, generally speaking would not have anything to do with pulling over someone for reckless driving. the police chief did say they have no evidence corroborating with these officers claim they were trying to achieve. >> i think that is important to emphasize. the police chiefs came out and said, this is not just me or other people watching the video and not hearing what we expected to hear. not seeing what we expected to see. the chief of police had their knowledge that their team does not have a visual, and understanding, of what terry nichols was doing in the moments proceeding all this. i think it's so crucial to really underline. even the police department is acknowledging that they lacked this information. i have studied policing since i got started as a reporter. i covered a similar unit in baltimore. anyone from the baltimore, maryland, area might remember the country's task force. this was a scandal in baltimore where an elite squad, have been expected to do major crime

reduction strategies. they were supposed to be getting the worst people in baltimore off of the street. they were supposed to be entrusted with a lot of responsibility, and faith. there is a whole hbo show called, we own the city, based on what enough happening on that squad. not only were they causing an immense amount of violence on the streets but they were engaging in a whole host of crimes that were the exact type of triumph that we were supposed to be fighting against. we do not know enough about the scope is needed at this point but i can tell you is the questions reporters are started ask on the ground right now. reflecting an interest in what is really going on in the specialized units. are they actually reducing crime in the way that they promised? or are they insulated in, some way, from the standards and expectations, the practices, that police officers are expected to abide by when they serve their communities? that is where the community's attention is turning to? that is we have reporters attention is turning to now. again, and what we have seen in the past is we hear these

stories, a couple of officers, in this case five, then you dig into big and you maybe find out something else that -- may be a broader story about the culture there. that is what people are interested in now. again, we do not know enough. these five officers -- i'm sure we are going to find out more as, eventually, we move forward in their trials. that is a lot of what the community is angry about at this moment. again, i cannot emphasize it enough. i have not yet met a person who thinks that this sort of behavior, this propensity towards violence, but they think that is limited to just these five. that is a lot of what is on folks live -- >> thank you for your great reporting. nbc's antonia hylton, live in memphis. these stories of police brutality, especially at the expense of young black men's lives, have now become a familiar narrative in america. the death of tyre nichols three days ago after he was punched, kicked, beaten with the baton, tased, and pepper sprayed by five members pd officers is only the latest nature of justice committed by law

enforcement. the details of the naked story may be different, but is something that we have heard before. crucially we have seen other videos of abuse more often and cameras, police body worn cameras, security cameras, phone cameras, have become ubiquitous. among the footage that the memphis police department released on friday night was video from the police officers body cameras. we are not going to show it here again, but it has been widely seen. it is a startling in a close perspective of the violence as it happened. showing glimpses of nichols face just inches away pressed on the ground. calling, as antonia said, for his mother. having these videos hat makes it much harder to deny the cruelty what happened. they are also important pieces of evidence of police brutality across the country now. just a decade ago body cameras were not yet a regular piece of equipment -- it was not until the plea of a family of a victim of the shooting that body cameras became more central focus in the discussion of police reform. on august 9th, 2014, michael brown was fatally shot by police officer, darren wilson,

who initially stopped around for jaywalking. the conflicting accounts of his death in the clear lack of footage to corroborate exactly what happened during their encounter lead to days of unrest in ferguson missouri. it ignited nationwide protest where demonstrators chanted the now familiar refrain, hands up don't shoot. a few months later a grandeur in ounce it would not press charges against the police officer who shot brown. in response to that decision, brown's family issued a statement saying, quote, we need to work together to fix the system that allowed this to happen. join us in our campaign to ensure that every police office at work in the streets in this country wears a body camera. days later, president obama announced that he supported that plea. and the last two years of his presidency his administration dedicated $43 million towards funding for police departments to obtain body cameras. it was incremental change but body camera footage has played a crucial role in the years since.

it has helped push the conversation regarding police violence in our phone forward. yet, it falls far short of to comprehensive police reform which would address all of the problems necessary. floyd's death renewed serious conversations in congress. the house of representatives managed to pass the george floyd justice in policing act in early 2021 largely along party lines but it never made it to the floor of the senate for a vote. the bill would've outlawed police techniques like chokeholds, carotid hold, and other forms of potentially deadly fourth. it's sought to improve police training. including mandating training against profiling. it would've also banned so called no knock warrants. would've required more use of body cameras and would have ended qualified immunity. it's a practice that prevents police officers being sued by the public. in light of tyre nichols death have been calls to revive the george floyd act, including from president biden himself. >> i spoke with tyreek's

mother. i expressed my condolences. i told her that i was going to be making the case to congress to pass the george floyd act. we need to get this under control. i can only do so much with a executive order at the federal level. >> joining me now is mark claxton required nypd detective. he is the director of the black law alliance. he was with me friday night as this video first came out. mark, thank you for being with us this morning. members of congress, the president as you just heard, they are renewing the cause to pass the george floyd justice in policing act. it does not seem realistic in washington right now with the current house of representatives. in the absence of a comprehensive law like that, what happens? is it the responsibility of local police leaders, local communities around the country, to try to get to where that bill was trying to get to? all those things that i just enumerated? >> yes, it is their responsibility, locally, to

address some of the issues. quite frankly toxic police culture is so resilient and stubborn that absent significant legislation, the heinous acts that we are witnessing, the misconduct, the corruption, the criminality, it is important that we call police criminality as opposed to things like police misconduct, et cetera. those things will continue. the culture is so ingrained. it is institutionalized. that absence ignoring it legislation, it will continue. there are local municipalities that are engaging in some lower level form of reform. agencies restricting, for example, some of their police agencies from conducting the low level traffic offense stops, which is hugely significant because some of those simple and innocuous interactions, too often, become fatal >> they are

often the first interaction that he will have with the. place your with man friday when we talk to philip -- government who mentioned all the cities that have said we are not going to do this traffic stuff as much if it is not violent and uniquely dangerous. and actually, a lot of police officers in places like philadelphia said that is good. you will keep us out of a necessary trouble. same with body cameras. there are some police who like the idea and said that the public will get to see what we face in what we deal with. when is the general sense among police and police unions and police chiefs, who elder views about this across the country, on these kinds of reforms? >> police have never opposed to doing it less work. however, police are very resistant to losing any of their power and authority. so that is the general rule for the police and law enforcement community. that you do not want to put yourself in a position where you lose any of that power, to

conduct these wide-ranging stops and interactions. oftentimes. and then also, you have these pretext situations where police officers will oftentimes use car stops and pedestrian stops in a way that furthers their ultimate goals and objectives. it's and to kind of take a look see to see what else they can find that could implicate a person. that is a tool that they use in order to conduct a lot of these illegal and unlawful stops. >> we just heard antonia say that the tyre nichols case has caught peoples attention, including hers, and somebody was cover this for a long time. because of the actions that were taken by the memphis police department in police to c.j. davis after the case of nichols death. this happened to her leadership. i want to talk a little bit about this because in minneapolis it was the police chief who took the right position. it was a police union leader who took a lot wrong position. what do we make of how she has conducted herself?

>> i have said before and i maintained the chief is a highly respected law enforcement professional. she has significant ties in associations. she is a past president of the national organization of black lloyd forsman executives. she is widely considered to be a more progressive later. but understand that there are certain limitations to even her position because of the tenacity and stubbornness of toxic police culture. it is what dr. king was referring to, getting people into a burning. house she has -- operated and worked in the system, as i have, that is well entrenched and established to be disrespectful, or flexibly, a few minutes of. rights of black and brown people. that is a historic fact. we can document it all along

the way. given the dynamic in which he has operated, i think she has set the tone and tenor and tempo of this investigation. not only from the law enforcement perspective. but i think she's kind of compelled and force the prosecution to act more swiftly than they normally would. >> mark, good to see you. get mark clarkson as a former entropy detective ana member of the black law enforcement alliance. -- arizona, were free and fair elections are protected, not undermine. we will talk to the newly elected democratic attorney general chris mays. and, the shocking anti-democratic stance taken by mike pompeo and his new book. plus, if a picture speaks 1000 words, pulitzer prize-winning new york times journalist lindsey addario's fotis speak 2000. he joins us with her unique point of view on ukraine war only ground in ukraine. only ground in ukraine

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was a dark anniversary in just a few weeks the world war mark one year since russia invaded ukrainian government by force. i will return in the next few weeks to mark that illegal invasion. about to your, go the kremlin's hope for a speedy collapse of kyiv were afforded by an impressive ukrainian defense. ukraine continue to impress the world it's, great resolve, and military capabilities. the war is far from over as new york times reports that russian troops have mounted a fierce assault on ukrainian forces, in eastern ukraine. with both military's focused on critical supply. votes heaviest fighting is still happening around the city of bakhmut. this means more civilian deaths like the ones you see, hear capture by pulitzer

prize-winning photojournalist lindsey addario. for nearly, or journalists around the world have been working around the clock to make sure the international community does not turn its back on ukraine. lindsey is one of those journalists. here are beautiful recent photos, some of which are published in the times article i just cited. some are graphic but they are necessary to make sure that the global community is not forget about the deadly assault on democracy in ukraine. and she is a friend of, mine a friend of the. show she's been capturing the horrors unfolding in ukraine since february of last year, has been getting a close up to the action. she is taking for those reported on the sumantra v. tragedy, even as bullets flew nearby. i'm joined by the incomparable lindsey addario, photojournalist for the new york times. she has been covering conflict, humanitarian crises and women's issues around the middle east and africa for more than three decades. she was kidnapped and held captive in libya in 2011. she writes about it in one of the several books that she has. authored including, of love and war. and, it's what i.

do today she joins us from the donbas region in ukraine. lindsey, good afternoon to. you thank you for taking time out for the important work you're doing to be with us again today. i want to get right to some of your photos. because they tell the story of this war better than words can. in the, first one there is a. woman she is 66 years. old her name is nina -- and she's crier over or body. tell me about this. what >> yesterday we got where the residential building had been hit. and so we, were ironically, heading to that town. anyway we got there. very quickly after the strike. and found this woman standing over a body. and of course it is a very sensitive moment. you do not want to interrupt and start talking to someone they when they are clearly grieving. so we started for the graphics. and eventually were able to speak to nina. and it turned out that were source on the she was standing over. and she was sort of just

waiting, i guess, for the authorities to come and take him away. but we see these scenes over and over. more than 11 months is. it continues to happen. civilians continue to be targeted. there was not a military site around there. we just, again, a residential building being struck by russian missiles. >> you are in the part of ukraine that is facing remarkable conflict. you are in the war part of. ukraine and yet we are seeing missiles landed on civilian targets across the country. hundreds and hundreds of miles from the front. so it is happening where you are. you are a war, correspondent you are in. the war there are parts of ukraine they are not in the war and they are still getting. hit >> correct. that is the issue with the war in ukraine. is that nowhere is really safe. everywhere can be targeted. the unpredictability continues. it does not matter if you were in, lviv in the west, or in kyiv or in kharkiv or in

donbas. eastern ukraine. the war, there is no unpredictability. the sirens rage overtime. day and night. my phone gets alerts to take shelter. so, really no one is spared. >> you mentioned, kharkiv i will show this picture. here it is digging graves in kharkiv. in anticipation of more funerals, more burials. generally speaking, of military members in the area. kharkiv, northeastern ukraine near the russian border. >>. correct this is the military section of the cemetery in kharkiv. this is something new that i have not seen in the past. digging. grays this was a row of graves on that particular day. there were six graves. but there was an entire row that was being pre-dug, really. we saw something similar in dnipro in the military section of the cemetery. and you know, the ukrainian

military, likely russian military, it's a huge amount of losses particularly in the battle of bakhmut and soledar. so in the east the fighting is everywhere. you hear constant artillery and the thump of -- whether it is a missile or artillery. all the, time it is constant. >> i want to show for the two photos that were taken yesterday of ukrainian soldiers on the way to the front line in eastern ukraine. and a close-up of a similar for that with these people. this is -- these are military. these are not civil defense. this is actually the ukrainian military. which is become quite stormy. there were a lot of people at the beginning of this war, lindsey, thought the military were not up to this challenge. >> and they have proven everyone wrong. they have been going for 11 months. russia has been trying to take the mood for 11 months. it is a small town. if you look at u.s. they are

taking losses, but they continue to. this was heading back from the frontline. there were cards and parts of soldiers. they continue to fight. so lewinsky continues to ask for weapons. whether it is tanks or fighter jets. he is asking and they continue to fight. >> lindsey, i want to ask. you you and i have known each other for a long time. how are you doing? >> i am cold. i am a little scared. and i am tired of watching people die. >> you and me. both lindsay, thank you for everything that you do. it is of great value to us into the world. lindsey addario is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist. a former journalist who has won many many awards. she works for the new york times. follow her material. i hope you understand this war all over the. world linseed area stay safe with. us more on russia's invasion and some potential game changing military aid. i think ukraine run after the break. i'm joined by a member of --

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germany's decision on wednesday to reverse course and send advanced main battle tanks to ukraine the conversation is now shifted to the possible supply of long-range missiles and fighter jets. the associated press is reporting that ukraine's western allies are currently engaged in a fast track top on possible delivery of additional weapons. not everybody is happy with this discussion in response the hungarian prime minister, this guy, cast western countries are providing weapons to ukraine us active participants in the conflict. for the record this is a nato country with the warmest relations with russia and vladimir putin. following wednesday's developments, russia fired a barrage of artillery shells into ukraine. on saturday, the struck the city of --

and eastern ukraine, killing three civilians and wounding 14. joining me now to discuss these latest developments is ukraine 's member of parliament caribou. judge leader of ukraine's -- party. thank you for joining us. you and, i am a stupid, 89, ten months ago, where you said you wanted a no-fly zone and you wanted. airplanes in congress, your president said, we do not know your pilots but we would love your planes. the discussion is now actually actually shifting to airplanes in missiles for ukraine. do you think it's likely that is going to happen? >> i -- thank you so much for having. me indeed, we are living in times where impossible things become possible. really, a year ago nobody could ever think about giving us any of the weapons that we requested. and people were saying, fighter jets, missiles? absolutely not. two months ago, everybody was

saying, thanks, absolutely not. but what we learned is, with the examples of how military is exercising, the examples of how effective a decision we are with the weapons -- we can push in receive what we need. again, so many people think that the decision on the takes would be a game-changer. we cannot tolerate. now we'll be able to say, a year from now if it was. but i really really want to hope that the game-changer turning point into this war. in the next turning point needs to be for us with fighter jets. because they will have us to protect our scars and protect all of the cities. stop living in fear that more we may not wake up. because there will be another russian missile that will be flying over. this is critical right now for us. and we are doing everything possible and impossible to push

for the decisions to be made. >> let me ask you about the criticism from the people who -- say forget viktor orban's criticism because he's been critical of everything since the beginning of this war. he does not act like they are a member of nato. there are some other criticisms that say if you give ukraine these kinds of things, jets and long-range missiles, the war could move into russia. and that is, possibly, a step too far for nato countries. tell me what your response is for. that >> response is very simple. we are fighting to get back our territories. from 1991. we are a country that was attacked. and our territories were annexed. we don't want anybody else's territories. we want to protect ourselves. and regain other territories. this -- and the president was very vocal and very clear about that. right now, our first point is

to defend ourselves. and for the fighter jets. and our second point will be to regain our territories. maybe they are criticizing, thinking that whenever russia annexed is already. russia and this is what they are afraid. i've i'm very sorry. international. loss and we are opening them. and we are acting according to the. and what we need is only to get our country home again. >> do -- you i want to go back to your first into when you talked about the weaponry that you've been offered in the last week or so. it is game changing, in that the world has been moving in a very slow. basis you've been asking for things, and eventually you get. them now i think it removes ahead and says, let's stop thinking about this in six-week informants and think about the next few weeks hold. tell me about what happens and when you get delivery of everything that has been promised in the last two weeks. >> well, then it will defer to

our commander who was very vocal, saying to give me the necessary amount of weapons and i will go on counteroffensive and regain all the territories. and this is what we are working on to give our military everything that they need. this is the work of a politician right now to be a servant to military and to case by any means what they need. we have a list from them and this is what we are working on and you see the issue that we have talked to you about is that -- our western allies have been playing the secondhand to russia. marcia attacks, they give us a bit more weapons. russia does something terrible, well here is some more sanctions. and -- we will be able to win this war with this paradigm will shift.

when the western allies will start plainly firsthand. the upper hand. say, this is the strategy. the strategy is for ukraine to win. what are we going to do according to the strategy. and, this i believe, is happening right now. and it they are, god i do want to hope that this is happening. and that we will get what we need, and be able to move forward. >> kara, thanks again for joining us. the next time i talk to you might be in ukraine, i think. we'll be there if you. weeks we'll see there. stay. say cara riddick is the leader of the party in ukraine's parliament. right after a break we will take a look at arizona. new day there. talk to the newly elected democratic attorney general chris mays on how she is working to turn things around. and the statement became guitarist for -- . itarist for -- for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor.

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weeks after the rest of the country's elections were called and certified, one final thing still hung in the. ballots the attorney general race in arizona. it came down to a margin of 280 votes out of 2.5 million votes cast. becoming one of the closest races in the state's history. the democrat chris mays beat her opponent -- and seals the deal for protectors of democracy. because of her, victory every single election that they are up for a key statewide office in battleground states across these united states lost their races. and so began a new era in arizona, where anyone turning general could take office and transform the state and it's the. fraudit like, for example, that so-called election integrity unit, originally designed to further the trumpian lie of mass voter fraud. , now chris mays has pledged to use this office, which is, funded to protect election officials, volunteers and poll

workers against threats of violence and against interference in our elections. that will also defend vote by mail, rules which she notes 90% of arizonans enjoy, and in many cases depend. on on the other side of the, we're speaking with the attorney general of arizona chris mays. so coming up. so coming up of delicious subs. like #8 the great garlic - rotisserie style chicken, bacon and garlic aioli. i've tasted greatness. great garlic though - tastes way better. can't argue with that analysis. try subway's tastiest menu upgrade yet. [coughing] hi, susan. honey. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash?

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has a brand-new attorney general and one of the first moves on her agenda was to trans form her republican predecessors conspiracy fueled voter fraud squad, called the election integrity unit, into a bastion of democracy. a team that fights for voting. rights attorney general chris mays of arizona joins me now. , attorney general good to see you again. we are getting used to call you attorney general. you and i talked in arizona right before that election. and it took you whites while to get the. title but you've now. got it so congratulations and welcome back to the show. we all watched arizona very closely during the last election season. a lot weight on your states elections. there was a lot of disinformation going on about to the integrity of elections. how much of that inspired your decision to take this election integrity unit, which was actually doing a lot of garbage work, and transforming it into an institution that protects voting rights? >> ali, you are absolutely.

right great to see you again. i am so proud of the people over arizona. we really came through. visitors and that came through for america. saying, a long democracy ran through the state of arizona but now it is time for a look to the facials like me to take actions to protect democracy going forward which is why arizonans voted for us to make sure that our election in 2024 continues to be safe and secure and fair and that we protect the rights of voters to vote and it will protect vote by mail, which 90% of arizona's use but conservatives are still attacking out here in arizona. and most importantly, i think this is the most important of all we have to protect our election official against the threats of violence and intimidation that they continue to face.

it is a huge and growing problem, and i want to be clear that i'm going to prosecute anyone who engages in death threats against our elections officials, intimidation against voters than a mask to interference in our elections. >> the office that you have assumed has five pending voter fraud investigations right now. or at least as of right before the election, it had. those what is the status of those? >> yeah. those are ongoing. obviously i cannot talk too much about the specifics. five cases are is about to the norm. that is what happens every couple of years. it is not hundreds of cases. it is not thousands of cases. this election integrity unit, which is obviously completely misnamed as it was more like an election suppression unit here in arizona, it won is thousands

of man and woman hours investigating conspiracy theories and alleged cases of voter fraud. what did they come up with? they came up with what they come up with every couple of, years which is a handful of alleged voter fraud cases. we have got to point a and to that kind of effort to suppress the vote. we have to change this into a guinness that protects voters, protects the right to vote, and move pretext or election officials. our secretary of state, ali, believes in the estimates lead toward a third of the top counsel elections officials in arizona have now resigned over the last year. because of death threats and an intimidation environment. and my job is going to be to protect them going into