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comcast business. powering possibilities. i'm gassed with sudan. if you're just joining us, welcome. it's good to see you. thank you for sticking around if you're sticking with us. we're just days away from an emotional farewell in memphis. the funeral for tyre nichols, killed at the hands of police. the unit that deployed the five officers now charged has been disbanded. it's just one of the actions the community is calling for after the release of that horrifying video. i'm going to be talking to a police expert this hour. we're following some breaking political news. just days from now, a showdown between kevin mccarthy and president biden on the debt ceiling. >> we're going to meet this
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wednesday. the president said he did not want to have discussions. i think it's important that our whole government is designed to find compromise. they can take control of this runaway spending. >> coming up, i'm going to speak to congressman adam schiff. he got kicked off the house intel committee. you don't want to miss that conversation. plus, race and education -- the push back against florida governor ron desantis and his decision to bar a course in african american studies. first, the latest developments following the brutal police killing of tyre nichols. the scorpion unit has been disbanded. even more changes, chargers, i should say, against those involved in the death of tyre could be possible. it's good to talk to you.
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talk us through the disbandment, the decision to disband the police unit and where the dispensed ends. >> that was informed by the shelby county sheriff. they have been more than five police officers president. more details will be learned. more charges could be possible. the police department is being proactive. they've decided to permanently deactivate the scorpion unit. this is a unit that began in 2021. it was created to restore the peace in what they considered a a dangerous neighborhood. they are deciding to terminate this unit. they said they met with members of the community. they met with the family of tyre nichols. they ultimately decided this
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was the best decision. they all agree this was the best choice. the police department is taking this proactive measure to begin the healing process for all of those affected. the district attorney has spoken to nbc news. he has given his view on more possible police reform. here is the da speaking to nba -- nbc news. >> i support all the reform measures in the george floyd act including restrictions on a made-up doctrine made up by judges that i think has been growing out of control. i think this -- we need to do better with civilian oversight review boards. it's largely toothless. there are ways to change that.
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>> that is his opinion talking about the immunity that sometimes officers receive when these things happen as they are performing their duties. of course, talking about the involvement of these civilian boards that could be more involved. overall, the police chief, the district attorney, and authorities have been proactive in making these decisions as this investigation continues. when it comes to the protesters, they told nbc news, one of my colleagues said they wanted to take a day of rest here on sunday as the investigation continues. >> thank you, guad. we appreciate it. i want to bring in jay lawrence turner. reverend, thank you for joining us on this. antonio hilton, one of our correspondents, join me in the last half hour and spoke a little bit about your service earlier today. a lot of people in your community right now are returning to the church for
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guidance as to how to deal with the brutal killing of tyre and what to do next. i know a bunch of your message was about hope and heartbreak. talk to us about that, if you will. >> well, after a week of meetings and media coverage on this particular tragic death, it's important for people of faith to gather and sacred spaces. one of the things we wanted to do was provide a place for people to pray and then pray for each other and have others to pray for them as we navigate through these difficult times. it was also important to weigh in from a faith respective how we process this tragic event that is taking young men from us too soon. we wanted to convey a sense of hope that this situation, as difficult as it is, the crisis in policing in our country,
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will always be like this. if we continue to struggle and to work, we're going to get to a place where we reform a broken system when it comes to law enforcement. >> let's talk about reform in a broken system. this is not the last time we're going to see something like this happen. it certainly is not the first. i want to read for you a quote from the new yorker on police reform. i know alongside the messages that you provide in your church you also provide messages of how things need to change. it says this -- the fact that all five cops who killed and are black is further evidence that we are not dealing with a problem of individual prejudice and on accountability but something more fundamental to the job of policing. we're talking about total hole systemic reform there. what do you make of that, reverend? >> well, we did not get to this place overnight.
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it's going to take time. one thing i understand about justice, and i think it applies in this situation, justice is a destination that we are headed towards. police reforms on paper are a step towards it. what we are dealing with and what this moment highlights is that it is not whether law enforcement officers, black or white, and what is important as we acknowledge the culture that is normalized this violence that has to be dismantled. malized thisi believe as indivil departments review and reassess and put policies in place, we're going to need a comprehensive bill at some point like the george floyd act which will set a standard across the country to show us how we will do policing. >> reverent, if he will, provide us with sunday hope for those folks watching that just think, how can this be happening again?
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>> in the midst of the reality that this has happened, that a young man was taken from us and the possibility it may happen again, i want to reassure people that what martin king said is true. the arc of the moral universe is long, but advance toward justice. it becomes very important that we keep the faith, that we maintain our hope as we make our way toward the destination of justice. i hope that even as we pray that we would be the answer to the very things we are asking for god to do in the life of our nation and this world. >> reverend doctor jay lawrence turner, thank you so much. it was great to talk to you on this sunday afternoon. i want to turn to some big political news. kevin mccarthy and the white house confirmed a meeting between president biden and house speaker on wednesday. it's coming despite a warning for the white house that this does not mean they're going to negotiate on raising the debt ceiling. joining me from the white house is nbc news white house
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correspondent allie raffa. it's good to talk to you. take me there. the white house, the president has said it before. they're not really willing to negotiate. this meeting happened on wednesday. what do we know? >> yeah, yasmin, this is coming a week after we first heard president biden say he's willing to sit down with house speaker kevin mccarthy to speak about this. we now know they are going to be meeting on wednesday to discuss what needs to be done to avoid the usc faulting on its debts. mccarthy said in an interview on cbs this morning that he thinks biden will be willing to negotiate, will be willing to strike a deal. that is despite what the white house has been saying for weeks now as the crisis loomed. they said this is not negotiable, not this is a basic obligation of congress to raise the debt ceiling when the crisis happens every few years. they have said they should not be used as a bargaining chip for things like spending cuts to medicare, to social security, some of the demands that some
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republicans are asking for an exchange for these negotiations. mccarthy interestingly is saying in that interview that those demands for cuts to social security, to medicare, those are off the table. spending cuts to defense spending are still in play. he insists the u.s. will not default on those debt. remember treasury secretary janet yellen using accounting trick until that looming deadline of july when that headline comes to be able to make sure the united states is able to pay for the things it needs to be for? ? this really comes at a critical time. this is a big test of mccarthy's leadership. he is under a lot of pressure from some far-right members of his caucus. it's all eyes on these two on wednesday to see whether that they can work some sort of deal oh. >> beyond wednesday, we're just a week over the state of the union address. we're hearing reports that he is wrapping up his travel
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schedule ahead of the. what can you tell us? >> yeah, we've seen a little teaser of this over the last few weeks. president biden hit the halfwaye accomplishments he's been able to reach during the first two years of his presidency. we expect that travel to ramp up over the next week as we approach a state of the union address on february 7th. he's heading to baltimore tomorrow, to philadelphia on friday. he's going to be talking about what was a huge campaign promise on the 2020 campaign trail. biden promised to rebuild the economy for middle class americans, for blue-collar workers. we're expecting that to really ramp up over the next week. this is coming after we expect the state of the union, what is expected to be another announcement for the white house. >> allie raffa, thank you. still ahead, everybody, congressman adam schiff joins me to talk about his newly
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announced senate, plus's response to kevin mccarthy ousting him from the committee he used to lead. the scorpion unit may be disbanded, a larger concerns about how police are trained remain. i'm going to speak to the founder of black coughs against police brutality about what needs to change. first, how house democrats plan to counter the now republican led committees. congresswoman and oversight committee member becca bail it joins me to talk about that and what more. we will be right back. what more. we will be right back. we will be right back. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv
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haven't raided binds home. >> because he hasn't defied a subpoena, congressman. he had 60 days to comply before the actually executed. >> president trump had documents lock to room with secrets of protecting them. president biden had them in his garage. i think is a difference. president trump is the only guy he was actually president.
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chinese.e w you're worried with the chinese and donald trump? >> are you not worried about that? >> i'm not. >> that was representative jim jordan from ohio, sparring with chuck todd on meet the press. signaling a very different approach to biden in the one he has to former president trump. representative jordan's -- the oversight committee, our next guest is also part of representative -- she is joining me now. congresswoman, thanks for joining on this. we appreciate it. >> thank you for the invitation. >> you heard it right there, and we know republicans in the house are very much focused on investigating president biden, along with his son. and are you at all worried no, as jordan is a leading a voice
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in the upcoming investigation, so that it will be difficult to legislate amidst all of this? >> absolutely, absolutely. it is clear from that clip, and the drama that we saw in the first few weeks of the congress, that this is not a team of people that are interested in governing. it is not a team of people that are serious about the issues. i do fear that oversight is going to become more of a place of games, and a circus atmosphere. but i have a lot of faith and jamie raskin. i think is going to be an incredible leader for us, on the democratic side. and we are going to have to come to it with a clarity, a purpose. and a reason, and we are going to be combatting misinformation and disinformation at every turn. but we know that going in. >> i want to talk about this pull we head out from msnbc. 55% of americans saying congressional republicans will spend too much time investigating biden, and not
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enough time on other priorities. 63% have no to little confidence that congress will conduct a fair and impartial investigation into the -- let's remember in the lead up to the midterm elections, the number one priority seen amongst many republican voters was, of course, inflation and the economy. many democrats, it was abortion. talk to me about what you think priorities should be right now, with his new session. >> absolutely, we know that republicans are signaling that they would like a national ban on abortion. we are keenly focused on making sure that all americans every productive freedom, have liberty. we are about to secure those rights. it is critically important. but i came to congress to represent regular people in vermont. i'm very concerned about people in my rural areas. he talked about the work ahead on oversight, one of the things
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that is so important to my vermonters back home is that the rural postal service is not working for them. this is important for regular people, and i fear people will be going on fishing expeditions instead of making it easier for people to live their lives and get their mail. >> i want to talk about the debt ceiling, as well. kevin mccarthy said there is no room for any negotiation. i am in the business of negotiating, and i'm having a bipartisan look at the debt ceiling. what expectations do you have coming out of this meeting? >> so, i hope very much that the president will stick to his word, and not negotiate with security. i just want to remind viewers, ronald reagan lifted the debt ceiling 14 times. this is a matter, of course.
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this is not something that is not a dramatic piece of legislation that needs to happen. when we raise the debt ceiling to make good on paying our bills, and mccarthy should not be playing games with us. >> congresswoman rebecca ballan, thank you so much. it's great to talk to you. coming up, everybody. how police training needs to change in the death of tyre nichols. my next guest says those police officers are inconsistent with anything police are trained to do. and how democrats are counting for the governor, ron desantis's ban on african american studies in schools. i will be joined by a florida state lawmaker. that's ahead, we'll be right back. back but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain
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scorpion unit. all five of the officers charged in the killing of tyre nichols were part of that squad, memphis pd saying that in the process of listening to the family of tyre nichols, community leaders and the on involved officers who have done work in their assignment, it's in the best interest of all to permanently deactivate the scorpion unit. joining me now is the founder of black hawks against police brutality, delay see davis. thank you for joining on this, we appreciate this. he said the video of tyre nichols is inconsistent with anything that police officers are trained to do. but it is typical, you said, of state sponsored violence. can you talk more about that? >> absolutely. we've been doing this for 32 years. and i have seen throughout my career and in retirement, black, brown, and poor people consistently are victims of excessive force, police
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terrorism, and folks say let's wait for the outcome of the investigation. let's not jump to conclusions. folks are only behaving this way disproportionately in black and brown communities. so calling it state sponsored violence and terror, we have seen this historically in generationally. we've seen it from the ku klux klan to the slave catchers, to the police in the 60s, to the police up until present day. and so, how long do people have to wait for justice? we are not waiting for it to bend in our direction. we are saying to people, this is unacceptable. and there should be consequences. there is a failure in terms of policing in this country, responsibility, accountability, and integrity. >> so, so much of what i've been reading recently says this video is about the systemic changes that need to happen. right? this isn't necessarily about the identity of the officers, it's more about the system of
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policing. and i want to read for you specifically a quote from the new york times that set it out for me today. saying this, it brought into focus what many black people have said is lost in police brutality cases. that the problems of race and policing are a function of an entrenched police culture of aggression and dehumanization of black people, more than of interpersonal racism. it is the system and the tactics that foster racism and violence, they say. rather than the specific racial identities of the officers. what do you make of this? >> i would agree. it doesn't matter what race the officer is behind the badge, it is the institution that is predicated on white supremacy and devaluing the lives of black people. i understood that while on the police force, which is why we found it black hawks against police brutality in 1991.
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pre rodney king, and since that time, black people continue to be abused by law enforcement though folks have been making -- the officers are trained in a system to behave a certain way. if you want -- it doesn't matter what person is putting it together. the outcome is exactly what you would expect, it starts up and moves when you say move. likewise, when you put an officer in the system, you don't have to tell white officers when they train that they're white. they know they are white, they're in control of the system. but you tell black, brown, and asian and latin ex officers not to think about their ethnicity and their race, but to think about the color of their your uniform, because this way, they don't identify with the community that took the oath to protect and serve. >> so then there's reform, right? and the changes it needs to happen, and what's going to get done.
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val demings is the former orlando police chief, as we know, served in congress. he says this, it's unlikely in any serious reforms that they will come from congress. police officers cannot wait for -- they must reform themselves. they must make use of training standards and oversight accountability, techniques such as chokeholds and -- and practices such as no-knock warrants should be tightly controlled. officers on special units need to be highly seasoned, fully accountable, and regularly rotated. what do you make of them saying nothing is going to happen on the national level? the thing that needs to happen is within the force. and also, so much of what we saw, none of that is warranted. none of that is trained. >> that is correct. none of it is trained, some of what they're saying i agree with. they would address a lot of
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what they're saying, but traditionally, the biggest problem and failure that i see in law enforcement across the country is there is no national standards. everyone operates on their own tune, this failure was a failure of responsibility and accountability, and a failure of integrity. because an officer of 2 to 6 years should not be -- those are rookies by my research, when i did my study around implicit bias. so if you are going to put young officers out there, the next officer comes with responsibility. who's responsible for them? ultimately, the chief supervisor. even i listen to recordings on the radio, no one took command, even in a patrol unit. no supervisor took command over the scene and said, this is what we will do or won't do. and found the accountability. you know which officers in your agency --
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the question is, do you have the fortitude to do what needs to be done to them, which is to punish them and make them pay a high price for abusing the community. that's something they don't want to do and send the message other officers. >> lindsey davis, thank you. coming up next, kevin mccarthy is defending marjorie taylor greene's committee assignments, after dropping out of his. >> she's break-ins mercy theories. has anyone supposed to take that work seriously and find that were credible? >> when you look at all of it, you have all the questions out there. >> you think these are legitimate questions? >> i think what the american public wants to see is an open dialogue. >> we will have congressman adam schiff responding to that. joining me next after the break, plus the latest on his announcement this week it is running for senate. we'll be right back. disease for years and the pain in the back of your eye is forcing bad words from your mouth, or...the bags under your eyes are looking more like purses,
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seat on the intel committee, i'm joined now by congressman adam schiff in california. congressman thanks so much for joining us on this. before we get into the senate, i want to talk to you about a story we've been talking about for sometime now. he's been there for 18 months, and dick durbin essentially saying something at a national level needs to happen. jim jordan says that he believes this needs to happen, really, it more of a local level. the house republicans are more focused on -- more than anything else. is there any reality check you can give us as to something happening on the national level, when it comes to police reform and the passing of the george floyd act? >> the george floyd bill needs to be passed. and we've been pushing this now for almost two years. when you think about how many
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people have been victimized, how many people have lost their lives in that time, we just don't have the time to wait. and we need to bring this up in the senate. we need to do with the filibuster, if that's necessary, to get this legislation passed. and i don't tolerate any of these excuses. i think some of the senators are slow walking this, and this needs to get done. we have to stop this scourge of violence against people of color, and put an end to it. these images are just horrifying, and we can't turn away from them. we have to acknowledge this is going on it has been going on, and it needs to stop. >> congressman, the reality check though is, will it, can it in the next few years? in this congress. >> you know, to me, in terms of the challenge of getting anything to the senate, it's a lot like what we've been seeing in california where we've had
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four mass shootings in the last week, and i would have thought after sandy hook, we wouldn't need any more to motivate congress to do their jobs. i would hope after this latest instance of police brutality, police murder, the murder of tyre nichols, that we would act. will we act? only one people in the u.s. senate understand that if they don't act, they are going to be voted out of office. and we're just going to have to mobilize to make sure that they understand that they need to be on the right side of this issue. there's no more hiding. >> yeah. what more do we need to see here? let's talk about the senate race. your announcement, that you are running for senate in the state of california. i know you told the new york times that you would -- and you said, she was gracious. i let her know i want to make my announcement and she could not have been nicer about it. what was her response? is she in fact retiring?
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>> you know, she has told me, and we spoken a couple times. she has said she is determined to finish your term. there's a lot she wants to accomplish. she is still grieving over the loss of her husband, and she wants more time to make her decision. but she said that we could go forward, and we don't need to wait. as i said, she was more than gracious about it. i want to make sure that we are showing the respect that she has earned. she's been a giant in our state, but i also feel that i need to get out and stand up for the values of californians at a time when our democracy is deeply at risk. and i think a large part of why our democracy has been so vulnerable is that our economy still -- who are deeply concerned for the future of their kids. the answer to entertain a demagogue who -- so these issues can't wait.
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and for those who want to learn more about my campaign or contribute, they can go to adam schiff.com. >> congressman, are you going to run if in fact senator feinstein decides to stay in the race? >> i don't want to step on any decision she will make. i think through micronesian when she believes the time is right. and i also think that this is someone who's able to do what she was able to do because she listen to people telling her what she can do. and so i don't want to get ahead of her announcement. we will give her the time to make her own decision. >> talk to me about the decision to remove you from the committee assignment. we played that sound, coming to you. obviously, his decision to place marjorie taylor greene on that committee. what do you make of it? and does this play into your decision to run for senate? >> in terms of what i make of
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it, this is the weakness of kevin mccarthy. even the tote ole frauds like john santos, he is put an important committees. and why? because he needs them. marjorie taylor greene is keeping so close, she's going to be making leadership decisions with that conference. the result in terms of the intelligence committee, for the first time in history, deciding that the minority party would not get to choose who leads their party in that committee. it's just going to bring suspicion among the intelligence agencies, about making the intelligence committee something that they can't trust. at the same time, again, mccarthy vowed to extreme elements of this conference, establishing a select committee behind weaponization of the federal government. that would breed more distrust by the intelligence agencies. so it's doing a national security disservice to the country. in terms of my decision, my
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decision was already made, but i think that's a perfect illustration, which is we need to fight these extreme forces within today's gop, these extreme maga -- i have a history of doing that, at the century of -- and mccarthy's recent actions only underscore there's a risk to our democracy, and why i'm so determined to use the senate as the more powerful platform in our democracy and fight for the economy that works for everyone. >> let me read for you an assessment from the washington post, and the editorial board. and i will get your views on it. it is possible that mr. mccarthy's pettiness could rebound to the political benefit of his fellow californian. he may have laid the groundwork for mr. schiff to succeed in feinstein, not only as a senator, but also a leading role on this senate intel. is that something you are eyeing, in addition to bid for senate? >> well, i'm certainly
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interested in continuing my work on intelligence matters. but i don't want to get ahead of myself. i do agree with the washington post, though, that mccarthy is giving californians a powerful initial reason to support adam schiff for senate. and that is, they want to make adam schiff and kevin mccarthy -- it certainly would be a more powerful role in holding him accountable. and ted cruz, josh hawley, lindsey graham, and others, they are so determined to tear apart our democracy. >> congressman, adam schiff, thank you. it's great to talk to you. all right, after the break everybody, backlash over governor ron desantis's decision to ban black studies from florida schools. it is raising the question, is he focused on his states needs, or his own presidential ambitions? i'm going to ask former lawmaker next about that, and how democrats are fighting back.
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tonight american voices, accountability for the death of tyre nichols. calls growing for systemic change to policing in this country. what does that look, like how did actually happen? we'll get into solutions with -- who is already proposing legislation. that and much more starting 6 pm eastern, american voices right here on msnbc. to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. we went to safelite.com. there's no one else we'd trust. their experts replaced our windshield, and recalibrated our car's advanced safety system. they focus on our safety... so we can focus on this little guy. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ we all have a purpose in life - a “why.” no matter your purpose, at pnc private bank we will work with you every step of the way to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just tell us - what's your why?
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facing some backlash after his administration once again stepped into the middle of the states public school curriculum. under his direction, the florida department of education last week rejected a high school ap course on african american studies, saying that it, quote, significantly lacks educational value. a democratic governors including california's gavin newsom in illinois jamie pritzker, both pushing back against desantis, calling on the college board which oversees ap courses to allow
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the courts to be taught. joining me now is -- thanks for joining us on this, we appreciate it. tell me first, the reaction you're getting from democrats, responding to this. with all of this, what you're hearing from parents and teachers, as well. >> well, you know, the first thing democrats said was, here we go again. because last year, with the attack on lgbtq men and women. and while on the one hand, he was giving tax breaks to corporations here in florida. this year, it looks like it's going to be an attack on black people. and while there are so many other issues we need to be focused on, and the issues that will arise in this next legislative session. they continue to strip -- to be able to provide rent control, which we desperately need in florida. >> you can't help but think, chevron, about the timing of all this. because this took place over
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the last couple of days, you had the release of that video, the brutal beating of tyre nichols. what i've been talking about on the show for the last couple of hours, right? racism in this country, police brutality against black americans. what needs to change, this has been an ongoing conversation. and yet, they are trying to make sure that kids in florida are not being taught african american studies at a college level. what does that mean to you in this conversation? >> what it means to me in this conversation is that young people have the potential to get educated, in states and particularly here in florida, without seeing representation. or even being acknowledged of their blackness here within the state. if you all can remember, after the death of george floyd, right after that, after the series of demonstrations that took place, hp one came --
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and tried to tell how we can protest, how we cannot protest. and then you had don't say gay the came last year. now, we have the restrictions rejecting african american studies classes. we have an american who serves in this legislature. my question now is, do we matter here in the state of florida? of the 22 people who live here, are you representing all of us? for only the ones who agree with what you have to say, or your policies that you agree with. >> >> how worried are you about his bid for president of the united states, amidst all that you have just laid out. >> i'm extremely concerned. i think we should understand that. because if florida can do it, if florida can get away with this, that means that texas and tennessee, and arizona, and all these other states will feel that it's okay to do it.
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desantis's cultural fear and intimidation, and his attempts at muslim educators is not going to make history magically disappear. which i believe is their end goal. his systemic attack on public education is a part of a larger war across this country, and our ability to question and engage in our democracy is dangerous on the surface. we all should remain vigilant to make sure that governor desantis does not even approach the white house. >> why do you think desantis has been so singularly focused on stifling education, and anything about the other. >> because education is the great equalizer. and because that -- that's why they are settling in right here, right now. we're also going to a huge fight on this session for universal boundaries, across the state. which only is going to continue to exacerbate the defunding of the education system.
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if i can teach children how to think, if i can teach them how to learn, if i can muzzle teachers and other teaching, now i have full control. mind you, even in this next legislative session, they want a school board to tell what their party is. when in our constitution, they are considered a non partisan bias. so this is what we're seeing in florida, but i can guarantee you, it can happen here, and will continue across the country. >> state senator, van jones. thank you. all right, their team made out of the playoffs, buffalo bills fans have something to smile about this sunday. damar hamlin making his first public comments since his on-field cardiac arrest. and in an instagram visafety san away by the support he received, thinking his medical staff fans and those who don't needed to -- >> i'm so thankful to everybody, this is just the beginning of the impact that i want to have
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classified documents saga with a mock merrick garland press conference, detailing the searches of homes of former presidents, including barack obama. >> i don't mean to brag, but i was in barack obama's house. no big deal, but it was really fun. mr. obama open the door and said, are you selling girl scout cookies? which had a cell totally cracking up. like, completely dead. we can enter the home and were shown a number of things, including 175 letters from lin
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