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right now, the breath of brutal video footage of the police encounter that ended in the death of tyre nichols has created a situation too big for the nation and its lawmakers to ignore. in washington, a congressional conversation around policing reform may be getting a shot. the congressional black caucus today calling for a meeting with president biden to discuss policing reform. as activists like myself are wondering whether nichols would still be alive if the last congress had passed legislation that emerged after george floyd's murder. and in memphis -- for the five officers now facing second degree murder charges in the killing enough tyre nichols.

it is now set for february 17th. and in the so-called scorpion unit, those officers belonged to and memphis has now been disbanded. and in new york, after hosting the parents enough tyre nichols here on politicsnation, i'm thinking about the eulogy of their son, i would deliver as head of the next tunnel action network in memphis on wednesday. last night, riven wells told me in the world just who her son was. >> tyre was a beautiful person. he was full of life, as you can see. he loved to skateboard. he loved to watch the sun sets. he was a great dad. he was a roundabout good

person. >> tonight on politicsnation, how does the country move forward after the alleged killing of tyre nichols? how are educators handling that discussion around the history of race and policing? several states have moved to censor students from even learning about it. as a fight over the question of race and education bruce in florida, i talk to the head of the national education association about what's at stake. all of that tonight. but first, joining me now, is the chairman of the congressional black caucus, congressman steve horsford of nevada. congressman, thank you, mister chairman, for joining us this evening. in a statement he released this weekend as cbc chair, you noted two things. first, in 2022, you set a new

record for police killings which i presume is a reference to the more than 1100 people killed my lot forsman just last year. nearly a ten year high, according to mapping police violence projects. you also brought up the failure of the george floyd justice in policing act to get passed in the last congress, where democrats lead the house and had a razor-thin senate majority. now democrats are in the minority in the house with only a slightly larger majority than the senate than the previous one. you also have at least for now a nation reengaged on the issue of policing reform after the alleged killing of tyre nichols. today the cbc called for a meeting with president biden. what can you tell us, mister chairman? >> thank, you reverend sharpton, for having me on.

earlier today, i spoke to the family of tyre nichols on behalf of the congressional black caucus to first extend our condolences to them, to let them know that we stand with them, to ask them what they want from us in this moment, to honor the legacy of their son, and to extend an invitation to them to be our guest at the state of the union on february 7th so that we can make sure that this issue of police culture, culture of policing, which, unfortunately in this country has now contributed to countless deaths which, everyone should agree, people should be safe. ould be safe so if in our communities. law enforcement has an obligation to do its job. the congressional black caucus has called for a meeting with the president, one, to ensure he elevates this conversation

to the highest level, which is address next week.f the secondly, for us to look at legislative, executive, and community based actions that we can take to move this policy forward. third, to talk with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, republicans in the senate, and here in the house, to relaunch negotiations on the principles of the george floyd justice in policing law to make sure that in the honor and legacy of tyre nichols and so many other families that have been touched by police brutality, that we have changed now. tyre nichols was a son. he was a father. he was a young man, a black man, with purpose, with a life full of living ahead of him. he had a passion, like his mother said, for skateboarding and for sunsets and

photography. he should be alive today and the congressional black caucus is resolved to make sure we make action in this congress. >> as you stated, you talked with the family. i was on the line with the family when you talked to the father and mother. all they want is justice and to make sure this doesn't happen again. you invited them to be guests and certainly win -- make sure they will be in washington available to do that. that brings me to this new poll from nbc news looking at seven different policy ideas, the new congress could consider. how they track with the american people right now. the most popular ideas, 80% favor a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. 75% won a harder line against china. 72% think they should increase

border security. the least popular items, only 31% support cuts to the defense budget. only 26% favor legislation further restricting abortion. and those numbers in mind, congressman, what should this congress give priority to? >> the issues that matter to the american people. those include protecting fundamental rights like a woman's right to make her own health care decision, the right to make sure that we have the right to vote in this country without suppression. making sure that we are protecting immigrant rights and workers rights. ensuring that we protect the right of the workplace. that is just fundamental. the other side of the aisle has made it clear that their goal is to cut medicare, social security, veterans benefits,

housing. we stand firmly against those cuts. not only have people paid into medicare and social security, but they are essential to peoples quality of life. whether that is for health care or for retirement security or the ability to have a home over their heads. we are going to fight hard in this congress, under the leadership of leader hakeem jeffries and house democrats, to protect the needs of workers and american families. >> house speaker kevin mccarthy said today that he will be meeting with president biden on wednesday to discuss, quote, reasonable and responsible way to cut federal spending two house republicans. those cuts in exchange for the clean debt ceiling increase, democrats and the white house have been seeking in order to avoid a default. democrats want an increase

without cuts. many right-wing republicans -- social security and medicare spending. what, if anything, do you expect to come out of this meeting wednesday with the president and mccarthy? >> speaker mccarthy, he is being controlled by the maga wing of the republicans in the house, they've made their agenda clear. that is an agenda against the american people, as you noted, with cuts to medicare, social security, veterans, housing, and of a list goes on and on. think about this for a moment, reverend al. they have proposed a sales tax on the average american worker but don't want to close corporate tax loopholes for the very rich, billionaires, and big corporations that are not willing to pay their fair share. on top of, it under former president donald trump, he actually added 35% of the debt

to this nation. under president biden, we've been working with the inflation reduction act to pay down that deficit. our priorities are clear. this is about the american people. we want police accountability to be on that agenda. we also want to protect essential protections for women. for immigrants and make sure that we are finding things like medicare, social security, and housing in this country. >> finally, congressman, you mentioned the state of the union. president biden will be touring the east coast this week pitching the administration's achievements in advance of next week's state of the union address. what would do -- what do you want to hear from the commander in chief in the state of the union, briefly, please, but i'm just curious. >> after talking about the importance of police accountability and changing the

culture of police, i want in the talk about housing, jobs, and justice. these are the pillars for the congressional black congress, working with champions in the congressional black caucus. we want to hear the message that focuses on the implementation of the bills we passed around jobs, around housing, and with the inclusion of police accountability around justice. >> all right. thank you congressman steve horsford. switching topics to florida. the department of education has rejected an advanced placement high school course on african american studies, claiming the curriculum promoted a political agenda. florida governor ron desantis has been waging war on what he calls wokeness in the states schools and institutions. many teachers say they are caught in the middle of a political firefight. joining me now the president of

the national education association. thank you for joining us tonight. i want to give you the opportunity to express your thoughts on what we saw this week coming out of memphis, the tragic story of tyre nichols and the five police officers who are now charged with his death. you represent a union that deals with education. what is the message you are seeing? >> it's good to be with you, reverend al. the horrific and inhumane killing of tyre nichols impacted all of us. as we thought about what we needed to do as educators, as we know many our students watched that violent video, we wanted to make sure that educators all over this country had resources to address the trauma we know our students are

going through. when they see yet another black man being killed by police. what we are doing is activating our entire membership, honestly, reverend al. we are re-dedicating ourselves to the passage of the george floyd justice in policing act. we are also re-committing to the demands for justice for black lives. the 3 million members of the nda will continue to call for that and demand and that everybody should be able to move through their community without fear. everyone should know justice. >> governor desantis of florida signed the so-called stop woke act last year, curtailing how rays can be discussed in the states classrooms and banning teaching of critical race

theory in primary education, even though there is no evidence it was even part of the curriculum. that, of course, followed the states so-called don't say gay law, forbidding teachers from discussing gender issues and sexual identity with a great school children. and now you have the state department of education blocking the board from piloting and ap african american studies class. largely because it incorporates viewpoints the governor opposes. what are you hearing from florida, particularly from its black teachers? >> reverend al, my dad was a history teacher. he taught history for almost 30 years. he taught us, his three daughters and his students, the importance of having the experience, the freedom to learn. a full comprehensive inclusive,

honest education. it looked at the triumphs and tragedies that this country, not just looking at our history, but making sure that our students had the critical thinking skills and the problem solving, the collective problem solving ability to look at our history and examine it so that they could learn from it and they could be the leaders of our justice society that we want them to be. when we see politicians like ron desantis and others who are denying our students that right we, as educators, we know that our freedom to teach is on the line. our students freedom to learn is on the line. we are going to continue to fight to make sure that we have that opportunity for every single -- not just students in florida, every single student to have that comprehensive and rich education they need and deserve. >> the florida department of

education has provided a list of topics it objected to in the african american studies course, including discussion of the movement for black lives and other activist movements. writings that seemed to support critical race theory and the promotion of, quote, black queer studies. then there is the topic of reparations, when the department argues, quote, there is no critical perspective of balancing opinion in this lesson. what is your take on the states reasoning here? >> reverend al, we are on the eve of celebrating black history month. and on the eve of black lives matter in schools -- for politicians to do what they are doing, which is a cheap and cynical political ploy, to

further their own political careers, to divide us and caused chaos to minimize the professional role of teachers and other educators, to deny our students the right to learn, it's outrageous and unacceptable. we will continue to fight and defend teachers that are making sure students have access to that curriculum to lift up their voices. reverend al, i was in florida with three students, two black students and one white student and, victoria and elijah and juliet, and they said it best. we need to be able to see ourselves reflected in our curriculum. we need to be learning -- to be able to learn about others. and we will continue to fight, that's what they said. we will continue to fight for that ability. i will tell you, as educators, as the 3 million members of the largest labor union in this

country, we will continue to center those students voices, lift them up, and fight to ensure that not only florida, but other states approve the full ap curriculum for african american studies. we will continue to fight, and i know february 15th, students and civil rights groups are having a statewide rally in tallahassee, around this issue. i will be joining them. and we had civil rights attorney then crank with us last night. primarily because he represents the family of tyre nichols, but also because he is involved in a potential case against governor desantis. three florida high school students are being put forward, if the governor does not reconsider his position. can you tell us, if the ea is also considering backing legal

action against florida? and if that does not happen, in terms of them rethinking this. >> we absolutely, our and i was weight -- when he shared with those in the rally last week that their intent to file that suit, we are not just waiting for the state of florida to deny access to our students for that full an making sure that that does not happen. but if it does happen, he said that he would follow through with that suit. so we are paying close attention to what is happening, and making sure that the full power and strength of the national education association is there to support our students. and reverend al, i'm going to be clear. it's not just funding for our

african american students. it's not just funding for our students of color. it's funding for our white students, to make sure that every single student understands, learns, appreciates and is ready to take the rightful place as leaders. because they know the history of this country. >> now, before we go, i must ask you to take a listen to what former president trump said in a new political ad, and then repeated last night at a political rally about one idea he has to improve the quality of education. listen. >> more than anyone else, parents know what their children need. if any principle is not getting the job done, the parents should be able to vote to fire them and select someone who will. this will be the ultimate form of local control. >> okay, so trump thinks parents should be allowed to

elect their children's school principals. your response? >> donald trump is neither a historian nor an educator. so no one should be listening to him. but i will tell you this, that we have to make sure that we continue to support in a democracy, the democratic election of members of the school board. that's the entire community, coming together and deciding who is on the school board. and we have had challenges with governor desantis, replacing democratically elected school board members. we will continue to lift that up, so that people all over this country, certainly throughout florida, know that their democratic voices in their democracy were set aside. we have to continue to fight, not only for the right to vote, but to make sure that those who

were elected through those votes are respected and honored for what those voters have decided. and so, we will continue that, and we will continue to stand with our parents, and with educators, and our students and communities to fight for the freedom to teach and the freedom to learn. >> thank you, president of the national education association. i think for being with us. after the break, the rise in fire deaths across the country. it seems to be hitting americans of color harder than others. we will talk to fema's fire administration about what she is doing to address this. first, my colleague richard louis with today's other top news stories. richard? >> rev, very good talking to you. some of the stories we're following this hour, in ukraine, at least three that we know, people are dead. and six more wounded by russian shelling in the city of kherson. and ed visor to the ukrainian

president saying they are negotiating with western allies for additional war craft to aid the war effort there. israel's prime minister has filed to enact tough new security measures and strengthen defense measures around jewish settlements in response to gun attacks friday and saturday, that killed seven israelis and wounded five others. these attack come in the wake of an israeli military await in the west bank. this week, that left nine palestinians dead. more politics nation after this break. eabrk. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv

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two deadly fires ripped through new york and philadelphia. an apartment fire in the bronx killed 17 people and displaced dozens of families, many of them immigrants. in philadelphia's fairmont neighborhood, 12 were killed when a christmas tree caught

fire and the flames engulfed a three story row house. last year alone, nearly 2500 people were killed in fires across the country, 276 of those deaths being children and 96 firefighters. joining me now is fema u.s. fire administrator and doctor laurie moore mayoral. she led a multi city tour last week to take a closer look at this issue. dr. moore, thank you for being with us. let me say the fire safety research institute says that fire deaths have increased by 30% over the last decade. these fires are also disproportionately impacting black communities and communities of color, and lower income communities, specifically in public housing. why is that?

but what is being done to stop it? >> first of, all thank you very much for having me on, for highlighting this issue. just as you noted, the fires are affecting them lower income or vulnerable people of color. years. last, year we had 1.2 million structure fires across the country, the greatest percentage of those, of course, in those communities we just described. one of the things that we know is that, and despite our technology, despite everything that we have invented over the past few years, that your chance of escaping a fire today, particularly if you live in public housing, is less then it was 40 years ago. which means zero chance of dying is greater. >> we have to do something in these communities. >> that brings me to this, fire deaths are on the rise but recruiting firefighters is harder than ever and

departments are struggling to stay afloat. you are administration is proposing an apprentice ship program. how would the program give recruits and also help diversify the force? the force? well, as you noted, our ems volume is also up. even as we see this volume is rising across our nation, our recruits are down. and why is that? well, during covid, we saw this happening. it began then with mass retirements across the fire service, and yet-limited recruitment during that same time. and so, that has been exacerbated today by the lack of recruits of flying. and so, we see that almost nationwide. there are very few communities that are having the normal numbers of recruit applications. down from, in major urban cities, 25, 3000 recruit applications. it's down to 700, 400, even 200. and so identifying eligible

recruits from that, being able to get them through training is a problem. so what we are proposing is a nationwide apprenticeship program, much like four other industries in the department of labor. so we are working with our national park, within the biden administration, to look at the national apprenticeship program, working with fire departments across the country. being creative, looking into high schools and beginning recruitment early. people who may not have thought of the far service as a potential career, now begin to recruit them early. begin to train them, perhaps in some of the emergency medical aspects of the job. those seem to be the most difficult to get them passed. and so we want to be able to reach into those communities, and we want to make sure we're reaching into communities that are representative of the people they are going to serve. in other words, we want to fire departments to look like the communities they serve. we want people to be able to see themselves as a firefighter,

or a paramedic. and come on the job, and be successful in their communities. we want to be sure that fire departments have opportunities to offer bonuses to sign on. we want to recruit veterans, so there's a lot of opportunity here, if we work together and are able to be creative. and to recruit them. >> the philadelphians bronx fires a year ago made national headlines. but as i said, 2500 people died last year across the country, after those major fires. congress passed a bill, following and allowing the administration to conduct more thorough investigations. how will the ability to investigate ultimately help save lives? >> that's a great question. we need to have fire safety investigation. in other words, our fire investigations now are four -- and particularly, if someone dies, and we are looking for

criminal intent, or the cause of origin of the fire. what is often missed, for not brought to bear, not brought forward, is the actual things that failed in the building. right? it's how does the building fail before firefighters ever arrive? in other words, in the bronx, i will use that as an example. the fire was on the third floor. but most of the people that died died on a much higher floor, even after the 15th floor. that was from the smoke that travel through the building, so we know there is a problem of self-closing doors, particularly in the stairwell. we know there was a problem with the hvac system that was damper, and close to prevent that smoke. so this is things we often don't get from a fire investigation report. so that's what this new authority will allow us to do, is to go in and look at the safety features of the building, to look at whether or not there was smoke alarms that were hardwired tempered proof. and did they work? were there sprinklers in the building, and did they work?

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victim of a pro day shift system in america. america has lost its willingness to confront this. joining me now is new york times columnist, charles -- charles, thank you for joining us. let me start with your assertion that america is unwilling to confront its policing problem. the country had the realization of police violence was a problem, and then they simply walked away before the work was done and the war was won. >> that is exactly what happened. what you had was people who were experiencing george floyd's death in a co-bit of vacuum.

if you are trapped inside, you couldn't go out, and it was illegal to do this. but an exception was made for the protests. some people got out in the streets. the covid restrictions eased a bit, and people get back to normal. they snapped back to a numbness and a nonchalant nurse. they saw some -- where they lost a governor seat that they thought they could hold on to. this will be horrible for, us and so all the way from federal politicians and policymakers, all the way down to -- the start to say, look politicians are going to block this and they are going to run on an exaggerated crime platform. and you cannot run against it if you are -- so everyone walked away from

this issue. they still say they want to make things better. it's sending out condolences to the families, but no one at this point, that i can tell, has any appetite to re-engage on a national police reform. >> the reason why your call i'm intrigued me is because, as you know, a lot of those rallies and demonstrations we were part of our helped organize, we had 200,000 people in the pandemic, in washington. and then as the pandemic eased, we would meet with, as you have critiqued, some liberal politicians who showed us that their commitment to legislation and to protect brock lack lives from police violence was pulling dependent. and not rooted in moral rectitude our core values. they ran scared to be labeled as woke. talk about that. >> listen, there is a hard

political reality here. those liberals and those democrats will say, a four out of control, we can't protect you let alone advance your cause. so that's not unfair to say. at the very same time, it does demonstrate the core value that you are not willing to re-brand defund the police. if you think it's a brand lad slogan, and a lot of people do, you can say that's bad but the idea is not wrong. to say, let's re-evaluate how we allocate money to police departments. and maybe there's some other services that can use some of that money. and actually help police, by relieving some of -- that is not a crazy, outlandish rebel idea. that's actually a good idea. but no one wants to do that, so we do the lazy thing. and they said that defund

police polls badly, we'll do the opposite. we are going to fund the police, it is a very lazy thing to neutralize the criticism that. is what happened. we are not in a situation where anyone is engaging -- republicans, absolutely not. but also liberals, they are not engaging in a national conversation. >> i'm out of time, but you also write that police unions used a cliché and dodged a bullet. how so? >> it was the biggest protest for civil rights in world history. not just american history, and it was aimed at -- and if they could wiggle out of that massive protest without having any federal legislation aimed at them to correct the problem, then it is unlikely that anything from this point

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while top gun maverick scored six oscar nominations this week, there is another military aviation film new to streaming that highlights the often overlooked contributions of african american fighter pilots. devotion, out now on paramount plus, tells the story of jesse

brown, the first black aviator in u.s. naval history. who flew combat missions in the korean war. take a look at this. >> 205, i have coordinates. i can hit the bridge. >> stand down. jesse, stand down. that's an order. >> joining me now is the director of the film, jt dylan. and jessica night henry, the granddaughter of jesse brown. welcome to both of you. j.d., you did a masterful job with this film, for my audience. the film, devotion, delves into the harsh reality of jesse brown's life. in hattiesburg mississippi, they became the first black naval aviator. what connected you to jessie's

story? and why was it so important for a story to be told now? >> well, first, thanks for having us on. it's been so exciting to get to share jessie's story, and do so much of this with jesse here. when i read this for the first time, i found myself crying through it because what jessie did and when he did it was just so extraordinary, and as someone who relates to the simplicity of having a dream and not caring what's in your way, to do it, there was so much in niger jesse's tenacity that related to. tied into that, 30 years behind jesse, my dad was also a naval aviator. and i think seeing the commonality between -- >> that's your dad were showing there, now. back when i had a mustache. but he got to join us for a lot

of the tour, and got to speak his story, too. i found myself with this beautiful opportunity, not just to share jessie's story with more people, but to tell my dad story, too. >> devotion is made on your late grandfather, who was killed in the korean war. when your mom was just a toddler. fred smith, the founder of fedex finance the film, and the proceeds have been donated in part to the scholarship fund, that navy scholarship foundation for children of navy service members to study stem. jesse brown's life continues to inspire generations of people, all these years later. how has your grandfather's legacy shape your idea around service? >> it was something that was

ingrained in us from a very early age, that my grandmother ensured that we as a jessie's grandchildren and as -- education was always the most important thing, and that was something that nobody would ever be able to take away from you. you would be able to chase and follow your dreams, and it's something that jesse was able to do. he was at ohio state university at a time when black people were -- so it has been ingrained in me, and i have chased a life of service in my own career. it's truly a testament to what my grandfather did and what he achieved. >> in 1950, the plane was shot

down in north korea and intentionally crash landed his plane to save his friend. unfortunately, there was nothing he could do, as brown remained helpless. fast forward to today, and the film has also reignited efforts to find her grandfather's remains, so he can have a proper burial. can you update us on how the search is going? have you made some headway? >> certainly. we've been very fortunate that mr. smith, in addition helping to finance the film and the scholarship, the proceeds -- they have spent a lot of time looking for jessie's remains. he was shot down in north korea, and so it has been a very difficult times to access that. tom hutton are, as you

mentioned, he was the author of the book, devotion, title of the same as the movie. they were able to go to north korea, but were unable to get to where they believed jesse's remains are. we do think that there is something that will be able to bring back. so we are hoping that the film and the effort with mr. smith, as long as if -- so he will be able to finally have a final resting place. and really, bring some closure since it was one of the last things my grandmother wanted. >> you brought the story of jesse brown, who gave a stellar performance in devotions filmmaker. what values or principles did brown possess, that she wanted to depict in the film? and what role do movies based on historical events and

previews plain educating audiences? >> well, you know, i think movies are just one of our best forms of storytelling. to bring people who are formerly unfamiliar with the story, not just into the information of what occurred, the emotion of what occurred. i think that is what makes it so palpably interesting. and then the experience of making the film was a really odd, in that i have grown to love jessie, when we were preparing for the film. there is a moment where you see this character, this real man inhabited by an actor. and suddenly, he standing in front of you. jesse's love for his family, his intellect, his push and power are all there. and i think for all of us, it was really true magic of the promotional experience. because when you lose jesse in

the film, i started to just feel the smallest amount of really, what it must have been like to know this man 70 years ago. >> j.j., thank you. jessica, let me go to you. browns and hug nerves bond has carried on, generations later through your families. have now passed in 2017. what's one thing he told you what your grandfather? what do you hope comes from the movie now that it's out? >> well, we're just so grateful that chasing story is being told to a wider audience. and so many people are going to meet him. one of the -- and it was a great honor to be able to grow up knowing tom hutton or. our families are still close today, we stay in close contact. but it was great to feel who he

was, he was a regular guy. and obviously, he liked to have fun. hearing about some of those moments was just so amazing, and we are grateful that we got to share that with him, to be able to have them for so long. it keeps jesse's legacy alive. >> all right, well j.d. dillard, thank you again. it is streaming now, on paramount plus. let me say, as we go into my final thoughts, as we prepare this week to funeral lies this young man that many around the world are now looking at this video, and wondering how, after george floyd, after breonna taylor, after so many cases, are we right back where we fought we had gotten away from.

and as i think about what to say in the eulogy that i've been asked to give at the services for this young man on this wednesday in memphis, i think about the fact that we know how to correct things in this country. and we correct them by laws, and enforcing laws. all of that is good, but laws are what make people stop and say, i am not going to take my badge to beat unarmed people, and pick them back up and hit them some more. and even though i have on -- i am going to talk like i'm defending myself. laws -- knowing you can lose your home,

you can lose your car, you have skin in the game these laws are what we did not get after george floyd and others. we need to deal with laws, as we deal with this tragedy. a lady stop really missed idiot last night and said you should be honored to be asked to give a eulogy for someone who means so much. i said, i think the family. but -- that does it for me, thanks for watching. i will see you next week and 5 pm eastern. american voices with alicia minute's starts right now. eastern american voiheces with a justli, thank you so much for that you do. hello everyone, i'm alic