that and the paycheck. as we come on the air in baltimore, president biden, you see him there on the left side of the screen is looking to focus on his wins with the ramp up to the state of the union speech, even as we're now learning the special counsel investigating his handling of classified material is also

ramping up. what our team is just hearing from the doj. plus, in memphis, a sixth officer has been put on leave at the horrific beating and death of tyre nichols, what's happening tonight, what's next in that investigation, and the new development this afternoon on the calls for more accountability on the federal level. we'll take you live to memphis and to capitol hill in just a minute. let's start here in washington. i'm hallie jackson, with me now is nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell who's with us. ryan noble, nbc news senior political editor mark murray, and julia ainsley is joins us as well. let me start with you, president biden in baltimore, set to take other trips this week, clearly meant to be a run up to the state of the union. he has a lot he wants to sell. he's also got some that's sort of a shadow hanging over him at this point. we mentioned the classified documents investigation. >> yes, this is the president, at least today, in a very comfortable familiar space, talking with amtrak behind him. and he has for so much of his

career spent a lot of time riding back and forth between his delaware home and washington. and today talking about infrastructure and using over the next days, his emphasis on infrastructure as part of what he will talk about with the state of the union, and using the i-95 corridor, and trying to talk about the ways that policies that he has been able to enact with the help of democrats and republicans in congress to affect the lives of ordinary americans through jobs, through infrastructure, through making communities stronger and that's something we'll see over time because those projects often take a long time to get going. he points out that the tunnel he is featuring today, it was grant who was in office when that was built, and it is due for some upkeep so to speak. this is part of the rollout of what becomes a very big center piece for any president, trying to outline policies, and trying

to lay the ground work for what comes next in his presidency, the halfway point, pending campaign, we anticipate that he will announce reelection fairly soon and as you pointed out, there are also questions related to those documents found at his home and at an office that he used between the vice president and his time at the white house. those questions are something that they want to deal with as well. the white house is trying to focus on the policy wins and on the issues where the president is most comfortable as he gets out into the country this week with baltimore and new york and other travels still to be announced. >> kelly, thank you, the justice department is also, you know, a part of the political dynamic here, telling nbc news this afternoon that the special counsel is set to take control of the classified documents investigation this week. talk us through time line there, what we should expect. >> yeah, that's right, hall

ie, as the president is going forward, the special counsel investigation looms overhead. merrick garland's pick to handle the investigation into how biden handled the classified documents as he left his office as vice president, that special counsel, robert hur is expected to start this week. we understand it will be midweek, and at that point, there will be a web site, a landing page where it will be set up so we can see what, if anything, we might be able to share with the public. he will be taking over from the northern district of illinois. that's the u.s. attorneys office that began this investigation in november before any of us in the media even knew it was taking place. he'll be taking all of that investigative material, interviews, anything that they've already done or collected up and to this point and basically there will be a handoff this week, and the investigation will continue under the purview of a special counsel. meanwhile, you have another special counsel investigating of course how former president trump handled his classified documents, a lot of special counsels going around, this is

the latest one taking his office this week, hallie. >> you see the documents time line there. ryan, let me go to you, the other part of the political backdrop, where the president is traveling to the state of the union, a week from tomorrow is the fact that when he delivers that speech, it will be to a republican controlled house of representatives. he's got this meeting between him and speaker mccarthy coming up in just a couple of days. talk us through that, how that sets the table too. >> reporter: i don't think there's any doubt that the two most important people in washington are the president and the speaker of the house. if there's any hope of anything getting done. it will be interesting to see if the behind the scenes conversation that takes place between mccarthy and biden in the white house mirrors what they're seeing publicly. take a look at what the president said about negotiations surrounding the debt limit. he said very specifically, i will not let everyone use the full faith and credit of the united states as a bargaining

chip. meanwhile, the speaker has said, i want to find a reasonable way to lift the debt ceiling. read between the lines there. kevin mccarthy would like to use this threat of the debt ceiling as a way to leverage spending concessions from president biden and president biden has said that he's not willing to negotiate on that point, that he wants a clean lifting of the debt ceiling. the question is when they get behind doors, will there actually be some negotiating around this, and it's been clear from the democrats that kevin mccarthy can't come empty handed h. needs to have a list. and all of this back and forth harkens back to 2011, the last time republicans attempted to use the debt ceiling as a real leverage tool to try and get spending cuts that led to a government shut down, that led to the downgrading of the united states credit rating by major credit rating agencies and of

course that word sequestration, that's when it was first introduced to the american lexicon. all of this on the line. the white house saying this is a normal meeting between the president of the united states and the speaker of the house. there's a lot more at stake when the two gentlemen go behind closed doors. >> not a normal meeting when it's those two or any president and any speaker. the president is looking to focus on accomplishments. he might need help from republicans to do that. when you look at the agenda this week, it's mostly about going after the biden administration is that a preview of the next two years to come? >> reporter: yeah, you know, you were just talking about the playbook from 2011 and 2012, hallie, and would a president be able to get legislative accomplishments like president biden did the last two years when his party ended up controlling all of congress, and now you end up having

republicans take over back the house of representatives now becomes the contrast part. you know, the first two years of the biden presidency when his party controlled all of congress was we're going to pass legislation to get things done. these next two years because with republicans in control of the house of representatives, but democrats still in control of the senate, you're going to see the biden administration really try to draw a contrast, particularly when it comes to economic issues. and particularly also the opposition that republicans have, and so there's just not going to be a whole lot of governing that gets done the next two years. everyone was pretty clear eyed about that once the house of representatives ended up flipping to the republicans, but we will see, and i'm sure in the state of the union address, you will end up seeing the president draw some contrast and use the republicans and speaker kevin mccarthy as foils. >> we showed a graphic, so i want to talk about it, the latest news poll. americans opinions have barrelly

changed since the months since november and the elections. why do you think that is? >> we have been fighting the same fight since 2020, probably even 2016, we have been considering our presidential maps, haven't change that much. it used to be, once we had an election like last november, we hit a reset mode, everyone, even if you didn't vote for the particular party, you end up saying i'm going to give president biden a chance or give kevin mccarthy and house republicans a chance. everyone is so locked into their partisan quarters, that's one of the reason our pulse shows very little has changed from our most recent poll to the one that was tested back in november right before the midterms, whether it's the congressional ballot, whether it is president biden's approval rating, whether it is people think he's headed in the wrong direction or not. all of those numbers are essential the same as they were back in november, and i think

the answer is everyone continues to remain locked in their partisan quarters and really hasn't left. >> mark murray, kelly o'donnell. ryan nobles, thank you very much. kick off the 2024 with the big campaign. our team has a preview of what to expect. plus, the secretary of state visiting israel today with officials getting more concerned about violence spiking in the middle east. first, we're live in memphis after a sixth police officer was put on leave in connection with the death of tyre nichols, what's happening on the ground, and how it might lead to change on capitol hill. maybe. in just 60 seconds. hill. maybe. in just 60 seconds

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preston hemphill a white officer, he was one of the first three officers that pulled nichols over in the traffic stop. he was apparently seen on body cam video staying behind with nichols car. as we are seeing more and more calls for change across the country from atlanta to oakland, largely peaceful protests after yet another black man was killed at the hands of law enforcement. those five officers facing murder charges are set to be in court for the first time next month. the d.a. says more charges could come, with the big question in washington, will lawmakers now facing pressure to act actually do anything to pass police reform? i want to bring in ellison barber who's on the ground for us in memphis. garrett haake is on capitol hill. ellison, we have a vigil tonight, a couple of them in places across the country in honor of tyre nichols, his life, his partners on this network talking about what they want to see, the changes they hope to see. here's a little bit of what his mother said. >> i feel like my son was

sacrificed for the greater good and there's going to be a lot of good that comes out of this. hopefully we can help another kid and another family not go through something like this. my son will always be remembered, and i will continue to fight until justice is served for him. >> talk about what's ahead, ellison, because one of the things that people who were out demonstrating were calling for was for this scorpion unit, as it's called, to be shut down, the memphis police department is doing that here. talk through more of that. >> reporter: right, so in terms of that particular unit, that is a welcome step, but i think a lot of people will tell you they see it as just a step. what we're hearing from tyre's family, his loved ones and activists in this community is that this is bigger than one person, one moment, one instance. they say that they justice in this particular situation. they want to see changes as it

relates to the way memphis police operate in this city, in this community, but they also believe that there should be systemic changes in the way in nation polices. that scorpion unit, while it might have been a unique name to this department, there are a lot of units that exist just like that in other police departments, i mean, in new york, the nypd had what they called anti-crime units involved in stop and frisk. in atlanta, georgia, the current police chief spent 30 years of her career, they had what is known as the red dogs. they go into often areas that are designated as hot spot communities, places where there are a high volume of calls or concerns about crime, and then often times, they have a bit more of a leash, if you will, at least that's what critics will say, where they're able to go into these communities, stop people for smaller, minor infractions, often traffic stops, things like that, and

then they're actually looking for, you know, bigger crimes. when it comes to the scorpion unit in particular, they were formed about two years ago, and the intent there was to focus on car theft, combatting car theft and gang activity. critics say they engage instead -- engaged in harassment of black and brown communities. people we have spoken to, what we have heard from protesters in the last few days is they want to see bigger changes. they want to see real police reform in this country, and that a lot of them they feel like they have been waiting their whole life for. i was talking to a man earlier today, and i asked him, how long do you feel like you have been waiting for reform. he said my entire life. he looked at his son in his late teens, his oldest son in his 20s. listen to what he said about how he felt about that particular unit being disbanded. listen. >> you can get rid of the unit, okay, but what about the other officers that's in the

department that holds the same mentality as the guys that done this horrible thing to this young man? what about them? >> reporter: there was another person from memphis i was talking to yesterday evening, messaging back and forth with, and me told me he felt like with the disbanding of the scorpion unit that what people were doing is looking at patching up cracks, and he said you can keep trying to patch up cracks in the house but when the foundation is rotten and there's structural damage, the cracks will keep happening until you address what's happening underground at the foundation level first, and so, again, for a lot of people this is a step, hallie, but they are hoping it's not the only step in this community or other communities around the country. >> before i go to you, that tees up next steps well. ellison, can you give us a status check on what else we know because there are some questions about the sixth officer now on leave, where that

goes, what happens next there? >> yeah, so in terms of that particular officer, his name is preston hemphill, he's been with the memphis police department since 2016. this officer was relieved of duty with the other five officers shortly after the traffic stop on january 7th. they're saying his name was not originally released to the public because he was not fired. they say he's on leave. they wouldn't specify when asked if it was paid or unpaid leave. but attorneys for tie referee -- tyre nichols' family, they are extremely disappointed. why is his identity just coming to light. we asked from the beginning that the memphis police department be transparent with the family and the community, this news seems to indicate they haven't risen to the occasion. an attorney for this officer. the sixth officer relieved of

duty as it relates to this incident, the detainment, and then death of tyre nichols, told nbc news this, quote, the memphis police officer, preston hemphill was the third officer. he activated his body cam. he was never present at the second scene. he is cooperating with officials in this investigation. we understand from our conversations with the memphis police department that the first body camera video that was released on friday, what was known as body cam 1 at that first stop, that was this officer's body camera footage. >> ellison barber live in memphis. thank you for that. garrett, let me go to you here. so much of the conversation has been around what are the next steps. you have tyre nichols parents going to the state of the union a week from tomorrow, and now renewed pressure on lawmakers to get something done on police reform, looking at the george floyd justice in policing act that failed in the senate. i think it was 2021, you have a new development today, as you

have pointed out, this republican house member, former police officer, i believe, who says, yes, look, we should do something federally on this. where do things stand as we're just a couple of minutes now, maybe an hour or so from some lawmakers starting to get back into town? >> reporter: by far the most likely outcome congressionally is nothing will be done on police reform. that's the reality. you're far more likely to see changes at the local or state level than federal level as it's constructed. you mentioned the george floyd act that passed ties in the democratic controlled house. the last time it was on the floor, it got no republican votes. that legislation isn't going to happen in a republican controlled congress. the negotiators on the senate side, cory booker, and tim scott stopped talking in 2021, haven't resumed their negotiations. anything that is going to come out of that is to the right of or in the view of advocates who want to see police reform pass, much wearer that was in the

george floyd act. the congressman you speak of, anthony despacito is interesting, one of the new members from new york state, on the backs of which house republicans wouldn't have a majority, if it wasn't for the strong performance in new york state. he thinks the federal government should be involved in setting better standards, higher standards for police officers in your local community, and this is someone who was a local police officer in new york. look, this is one member, and to get something that could pass muster with a majority of house republicans, through the house, through the senate in a presidential election cycle is going to be extraordinarily difficult, the kind of pressure that can be brought to bare on republican members. republicans don't see this as an issue they want to address federally. if there's pressure that pushes them towards that, he's saying this is how we can do it. the likely outcome is republican

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we are just about a year away from the start of the 2024 presidential primaries. i had to stop and like think about that because my god, we

are just about a year away, right, meaning that the primary countdown in some places like iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada, et cetera, the count down is on, coming is at least one. the only official presidential campaign, one campaign is starting to pick up steam. that is donald trump, he is back on the trail after stops in new hampshire and south carolina, taking aim at potential gop challenges. nothing official from florida republican governor ron desantis, though he's widely speculated to be considering a run. trump slamming him as disloyal. question mark on when president biden will announce what seems like an all but certain 2024 run, all of it as a new nbc poll paints a not so pretty picture of the country's political climate. 71% of americans say this country is headed in the wrong direction. setting a record, a year and a half of pessimism that our nbc news has never seen before. we have never seen people be this pessimistic for this long since we started taking this

poll. can these 2024 hopefuls do anything to turn that around. let's find out. i want to bring in nbc news correspondents on the ground. we have dispatched teams across the country for this momentous event. and vaughn hillyard drew the short straw, i'll start with you. we have seen the former president there. it's critical for democrats, talk through what you're hearing on the ground? >> reporter: right, before you go further about the short straw, i'm somebody who enjoys the campaign trail, and let's be clear here for -- >> i was saying, you have to talk with me. people are asking that. i'm not looking at my twitter mentions. >> reporter: for folks saying why are we starting so early, take into context four years ago, there were already ten democrats running for president on this date four years ago and when we're talking about pessimism at an all time high,

we've got one presidential candidate and his name is president trump, it's not even joe biden. nobody else is running. who is next? is anybody going to get out there. look at what donald trump did this weekend, he talked to the top activists around the state, and announced that the outgoing gop chair is becoming his senior adviser in the state. he came here to the south carolina state house where inside the state house he stood alongside three of the six gop members of the u.s. house who endorsed him as well as the sitting governor and the senior senator, lindsey graham who endorsed him here. donald trump is laying a foundation, and putting the onus on republican contenders to get into the race or else he's going to eat up early support. i want to let you hear from voters we talked to over the weekend. take a listen. >> i like desantis, but i just don't think he's cultured enough

as far as business dealings around the world. >> why not tim scott or nikki haley. >> we love tim scott and nikki haley, he has been proven to be the best president we have ever had besides ronald reagan. >> reporter: and all of us here have now done this long enough to know that the opinions of those folks you just heard from could very well change when the south carolina primary comes around. that's why we took down their phone numbers, and we will be tracking the sentiments of these republican primary voters when others jump into the race. for now, donald trump seems to have a good foundation of support. it's a matter of who comes in and tries to take some of that away in the months ahead. >> do i love you? do i love the energy? i can't tell if i totally pissed you off or excited you. >> reporter: i love you as always. >> now, dasha, pa matters not just because of the fan base that's thrilled, but swing state, lot of swing districts.

talk about what you're hearing as you're doing some diner tourism? >> reporter: i was going to say, you know it's campaign season when you find me in a diner, and we are at the avenue diner, a place where we just had some lovely chicken salad, and have been talking to voters all day, and the pessimism you talked about, the pessimism we heard from our nbc news poll reflected here. we have been here a lot as you know, this used to be a democratic stronghold but turned deep red in 2016, and has really stayed that way. look, this is not a high income county. a lot of middle class folks, folks living paycheck to paycheck, they really feel inflation. they really feel the high gas prices. i was talking to a small business owner who says he's scared to take out a loan because of the interest rates, and so the folks here really feel like what washington is talking about right now, it really impacts them, and there is a whole lot of frustration.

in a county with a lot of republican voters, trump voters, it might not be surprising that people are frustrated but you might be surprised to hear solutions. first i want you to hear from kristen. she lives in luzern county. >> i'm frustrated with the way things are going, just, you know, over the last year with the increase of gas prices. groceries are through the roof. it's hard like working, making a daily living and then just paying everything out. basically, you know, paycheck to paycheck. >> reporter: here's the thing, kristen and so many other voters that voted for trump that tend to vote republican that i talked to, they say that this gop controlled house. they were excited to see republicans control the house but they want to see republicans work across the aisle with democrats in the senate and joe biden. they may be frustrated with the

administration but they're more frustrated with the stalemate right now. the other interesting thing is i heard a lot of nostalgia, but what i heard from people, even though who voted for trump twice, they don't necessarily, because neigh miss him, mean they want to see him in office again. they're interested in fresh blood. i heard desantis, scott, haley, not just because of the age factor, but one thing i have been hearing more and more, they feel like trump has a lot of baggage right now. many don't think he did anything wrong but they feel like the drama and controversy that's swirling around him has been distracting from the issues, and so they're ready to see someone new maybe come in and see what they can do. >> dasha burns live. i'll let you go get lunch. thank you. shaq to you, a different kind of drama where you are in new hampshire. democrats are working to put in place this new primary calendar. talk us through what you've got

in manchester. >> reporter: and senior democrats in new hampshire say it's drama between the national democratic party and new hampshire's state law. let's set this up a little bit. the national democratic party, they're trying to emphasize diversity. they want diverse states to be able to jump the line essentially and become those first early nominating contests. south carolina, they want to be the first state and then a few days later, they want new hampshire to share the day with nevada. well, when you talk to senior democrats in new hampshire, they say the problem is new hampshire law requires it to be the first in the nation primary state, so even if they wanted to, they say, change that date, they can't because it would require a republican governor, a republican legislature to agree to a democratic party proposal at the national level. that's the back and forth you're hearing. that's the frustration. when i'm talking to voters, there's sensitivity to that as well. these are voters used to having candidates come to their house parties, come in their living rooms. be able to question them on

their most pressing issues. there's sadness they may lose that ability if new hampshire loses that status, but there's also some openness and some understanding that things are changing and that the party may want to go in a different direction. i want you to listen to how some of those voters put it to me earlier. >> sure it would be cool to be the first state. we're a swing state. we hold a lot of political sway, but truly, i don't think it makes a difference. >> a lot of it has to do with the charm and nostalgia, which i agree with. but in terms of what's right, it's probably okay to move away from it. >> reporter: definitely inside baseball here, but there are some electoral impacts to this as well, and some operatives point this out. one person who over the past weekend mentioned this battle that the democrats are having right now is former president trump when he was here. he vowed that new hampshire will stay in its place on the republican side.

operatives are fearing that what happens is you have candidates and voters going and voting for those republican candidates if they're the first in the nation state and that creates that habit where independent voters go and follow the republicans. it's something we'll be watching. >> you have a year to do it. shaq brewster, appreciate it. we're finding out that the ceo of tiktok is going to be testifying in front of congress for the very first time, facing the house energy and commerce committee in march, the focus, the long standing security concerns, privacy concerns that lawmakers have raised about tiktok and ties to china. allie vitale joins us from capitol hill. we have seen increasingly across the country, bans on tiktok from government devices, federal level, state level, et cetera. we have seen some lawmakers push to ban tiktok from all of our phones all together. tiktok has long said, listen, we work to protect american data,

right, they talk about the cloud where they're putting the data. what do lawmakers want to see from this, and what is your sense of how they plan to handle this issue? >> reporter: you're right this comes against the landscape in congress and on the state and local level of people starting to crack down on this app. one of the most widely used apps out there, we saw even just in the last few weeks that the senate and the house both banned this on federal device. you're right, senator hawley, and buck would like to go further and ban it outright. i think we're probably pretty far from that. when you see legislation like that, and the fact that the head of tiktok is coming to testify a month and a half from now, it's notable, and speaks to the urgency around the idea of the potential national security threats from a lawmaker government perspective, and also the ongoing negotiations that this company is having to try to keep itself afloat at a time

when everyone is trying to figure out what the best and safest way is to regulate around it. we expect when the hearing happens in late march, he will be the only person testifying. it does mark a moment and the head of the committee, kathy mcmorris rogers said this is another moment of trying to keep big tech accountable. we have seen other major tech ceos coming to the hill, and now tiktok the latest. >> ali vitali, keeping an eye on that. thank you. the secretary of state meeting with the israeli prime minister with more violence in the middle east. our team has the details right after the break. le east. our team has the details right after the break. he subway serie. perfectly crafted to be cheesy and easy. just order by name and number and get ready to taste greatness. oops, i already ate it. c'mon man. try it today! ♪ this feels so right... ♪ adt systems now feature google products like the nest cam with floodlight, with intelligent alerts when a person or familiar face is detected.

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this seems like they're getting closer to making a decision about charging or not. >> this is the same district attorney that seems to make decisions and back off, and then make them again. keep in mind, it's apparently the case that he's convening a special grand jury to investigate conduct that happened back in 2016, possibly 2015. michael cohen pleaded guilty to this conduct in 2018, and it's true, at the time, it was thought that this might be the greatest threat to trump, because after all, his attorney walked into court and pointed the finger essentially at the then sitting president. but it's also been five years, so it really remains an open question whether or not alvin bragg would want to seek an indictment on a low level felony of falsifying financial records, especially when the clock has tictoced so long since the alleged conduct. >> danny cevallos, thank you very much for that analysis as always, appreciate it. secretary of state tony blinken meeting with the new

israeli government after the backdrop of more violence in the region. a mass shooting outside the synagogue in jerusalem on friday, an attack that left seven dead. a day after an israeli force killed ten in the occupied west bank. all taking place in the first week of benjamin netanyahu's right wing government which has taken a hard line against the palestinians. nbc news correspondent kelly cobiella is in jerusalem with the latest. >> reporter: israel is still on its highest state of alert today. police are on 12-hour shifts. there is an extra security presence throughout jerusalem, and this is because of that attack at the synagogue on friday night. now, this topic has moved straight to the top of the agenda for the secretary of state. he was talking about it twice today when he first stepped off the plane here in israel and stepped up to the podium, calling on both sides to take steps to stop what he called a

his rising tide of violence, and israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu says president biden was committed to them having equal security, freedom, dignity, and opportunity. take a listen. >> we continue to believe the best way to achieve it is through preserving and then realizing the vision of two states. as i said to the prime minister, anything that moves us away from that vision is in our judgment detrimental to israel's long-term security and long-term identity as a jewish and democratic state. >> reporter: the secretary of state said the two sides talked about cooperation on other issues, including iran. the he meets with the palestinian president, mahmoud abass tomorrow. utah just became the first state to ban gender affirming care for trans kids this year.

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in a row. we also expect the busiest week of the earnings season but the reports from tech companies like amazon, apple, alphabet, meta, after big layoffs making headlines in that industry, cnbc's contessa brewer is joining us with the latest. it's great to see you. it's been a big week. we are seeing some of the reaction from wall street so far. how should we be thinking about the next days? >> all of the attention is on the fed. that's part of the reason you have the slump on wall street, the s&p down a percent and bigge s&p are slumping. meta platforms, down almost 2%. advanced micro devices, manufacturs semiconductors. you've got reports for the season with 20% of the s&p companies telling us about their

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backlash to this law. >> is there anything that for example lgbtq-plus can do at this point to counter it. >> it's unclear. they're looking at how far reaching this law is. how far reaching it is, unlike anything we've seen before. it will place a moratoium on this. it will have a number of other effects. providers to go undergo additional training from an approved organization. though the bill doesn't say what that organization should be. it will also allow patients to sue providers for malpractice care they receive. this is the unprecedented in how far-reaching it is.

>> concern simply this will be the first domino to fall >> yes, absolutely. they definitely think other states to consider this legislation and pass it. in addition to other legislation such as bans on minors at drag performances. this is a whole slate of bill expect to get worse as the year goes on. jo, thank you very much. good to see you. thank you all for watching this report on msnbc. as always, over on nbc news now tonight and weeknight for show number two. in the meantime nicolle wallace picks it up with deadline after this break. this break otezla is a pill, not a cream or injection that can help people with plaque psoriasis achieve clearer skin. and no routine blood tests required.

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