good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. in memphis, the focus shifts to first responders. three of them fired after waiting to get tyre nichols to the hospital. now the gut wrenching question, even after that vicious beating at the hands of police, could nichols' live still have been saved? plus, major political moves, president biden in new york with

the formidable challenge of turning infrastructure legislation to political advantage. while in d.c., the question what finally made a defined congressman george santos give in and step down from his committee assignments? and look at this, cars sliding down the road out of control in dallas because of a massive ice storm that hit the entire region. more than 1400 flights canceled across the country, 600 out of texas alone. 10,000 people without power. we have got a live report for you later in the show. but we start with about 17 minutes. 17 minutes from when medics arrived to the scene to when an emt began to assess tyre nichols. this is according to an nbc news account. it is important to note that the police blurred certain sections. it is unclear whether other changes were made, but after we watched it, we calculate roughly

a 17-minute delay, and even then according to a statement from memphis fire department, nichols was only treated for the initial reason the emts were called, having been pepper sprayed, not the numerous other injuries he sustained in the brutal beating captured on tape. it all raises the painful question, if in those critical minutes the emts had followed the very policies and protocols investigators say they broke, would it have saved nichols' live? unfortunately, we have been here before. as the associated press puts it, just like the attack on george floyd in minneapolis nearly three years ago, a simple intervention could have saved a life. instead, nichols is dead. and today, three fire department employees have been fired along with the fire police officers charged with murder, two more officers relieved of duty. i want to bring in nbc's allison

barber in memphis for us. ellison what more can you tell us about these three fire department employees and what do we know about their roles that night? >> reporter: hey, chris, so they were dismissed according to the fire chief after investigators within the fire department found that there were numerous violations and breaches of protocols on that night. ultimately when we're talking about these three fired employees, we're talking about two emts and one fire lieutenant. according to the fire chief, the fire lieutenant was in the fire apparatus that drove them to the scene. she stayed in the vehicle. then you had the other two emts that were the ones there to treat tyre nichols. the memphis fire chief is saying those two now former emts responded to the scene based on

the initial call they got that there was an individual who had been pepper sprayed, and that then they spoke to an officer on the scene and really just relied on those two bits of information. the initial call about a pepper spray and then what they were told by an officer at the scene. instead of doing their own assessment of tyre nichols. so they first got the call and based on the timeline we have from the fire department, they responded initially to that first intersection where the initial encounter happened, there they spoke to an officer, were directed to the other place where tyre nichols was located. from the time we have with the fire department's breakdown of this, those two emts got out at the second scene, went over to assess tyre nichols, again, just basing theirff of the information they had prior to arriving to the sc from polit the scene, didn't do further assessments, they called for an ambulance, but because and this

is according to the fire chief they did not do any additional assessments of this patient it took at least 15 minutes from the moment they saw tyre nichols handcuffed, visibly beaten based on what we have seen, leaning against the police car to getting additional medical attention because they called that ambulance, but it didn't come for another 15 minutes. chris? >> thank you very much for that. we appreciate the update. also with us, trauma expert dr. shawn montgomery. doctor, you were not there to do an assessment. but when you look at the kinds of injuries sustained in a beating, in a kicking, and by our own assessment we looked very carefully at that tape from the moment the call was made to when there was an initial -- the emts arrived to the initial assessment, there was a lag time of about 17 minutes. in any critical care, traumatic situation, how important could 17 minutes be?

>> it can be very important. it is difficult to know exactly the injuries he sustained, the detailed autopsy, but time is of the essence when dealing with these kinds of severe injuries. i will say that, you know, certainly -- >> sorry, continue. we have a little bit of a delay, just so you know, in our connection. >> you know, it is difficult, i think for any american to watch that video. as a healthcare provider, i thought it was hard watching him slumped against the car for 16 minutes not getting treatment while medical personnel were there on the ground. there is usually a standard series of evaluations they would go through based on that kind of prehospital trauma life support that is very standardized of looking at the airway, looking at the -- for breathing, assessing circulation, looking for major bleeding, and it is not clear to me that any of that was done in the first 16 minutes. hard to tell by the video, but doesn't seem like it was done. >> and had it been done, would

your expectation have been that, again, as someone who is involved in trauma that is your area of expertise, the faster you could get an ambulance to the scene, the faster you could get more high level critical care, those minutes are very, very important to survival? >> yes, certainly the sooner you restore good oxygenation and good blood flow, the better the patient is going to do. so, we often talk about a golden hour historically from the time of injury, but there is good data showing the shorter that time is to when an intervention can be done, the better the patient will do. >> mark, i think for a lot of us who have seen that, you just think to yourself, well, why would you call in pepper spray, whatever conversation was had with the emts that didn't either alert them or made them reticent

to offer more fulsome care, is this in your eyes a failure in training? is it a rejection of training? what do you see in those critical minutes and the way police responded? >> well, it seems as the more information that comes out, the more disturbing the events surrounding the death of mr. nichols is. what we clearly have seen are professionals, it starts with the professional police officers engaged in criminal conduct, alleged criminal conduct that obviously contributed at the very least that caused mr. nichols' death. then you have other professionals who are emergency responders who obviously, based on the information coming out, have, you know, really was dereliction of duty and responsibility. whether or not it is in your policy, written down or not, or

whether or not there is a law, it is implied, it is built into both law enforcement community, and our emergency medical responders and our fire department, we have a duty to care. and a duty to intervene. and i think on both of those levels, these professionals failed miserably. and now, you get a better understanding as to why it is important to say, not just the slogan, but to support the organization, that black lives matter and that can't be ignored in this case, that we're talking about, once again, a black victim who was brutalized and then failed to receive the proper care. >> and you can talk about, doctor, practices and protocol, which is in the statement that the memphis police department said weren't followed. but there is also just basic

humanity. we see all the ways in which those police officers physically dominate this man. they're much bigger than him. they're tasering him, they're beating him with a baton, they're kicking him, they're pep pepper spraying him. there is a point he's held up and punched. how much pain might have he had to endure, might he have been suffering in the minutes from not just the actual physical assault, but, again, waiting for some kind of treatment? what kind of traumatic injuries would be typical of something like that, and i just think of what suffering he might have been going through. >> certainly when you watch the video, certainly seems he's at risk for severe traumatic brain injuries and perhaps a collapsed lung and broken ribs interfering

with his breathing. and internal bleeding into his abdomen, all which of can be quite painful. i think certain things that we want to be mindful of and we're evaluating the emts, it is a difficult job that can be dangerous and they're often doing the best they can with the equipment and training they receive. i think in addition to the standard medical training that we often talk about, i think one thing that is helpful is implicit bias training. when you see someone kind of slumped over next to a car with difficulty breathing and he's not communicating well, it is obvious in retrospect he has, you know, severe brain injuries and injured lungs. and i think if you see that person after a car accident, everyone is going to leap to the same conclusion, devastating injuries we should treat. i think there is a bias when someone is seen in police custody, we have to be aware of and train medical personnel to recognize and deal with so they

do look for the root causes of what is going on. >> i want to back up if i can for a minute, mark, and go to the what caused the injuries, because we see this series of contradictory commands. "the new york times" has it as at least 71 commands in approximately 13 minutes, often just yelling, they're screaming at him to get out of the car as they're pulling him out of the car, they're screaming show me your hands and they're holding his arm. where is the threat? he seems to be trying to figure out what they wanted. they were treating him as a threat, much larger police officers, his mother says nichols suffered from crohns disease, he was very thin, 6'3", 145 pounds. where was the threat, mark? was there any threat? >> that's one of the questions that everyone has about this -- there was a threat, what was the justification for using the

level of force that we have seen on video? you know, police officers are trained and it is a continuum of force, it basically authorizes or allows police officers to use the appropriate level of force to prevent injury, but it has to be commensurate with the amount of resistance. based on some other factors. and clearly these individuals failed miserably as far as their professional training and sense of humanity, if you will. and what we witnessed and i've said this before is not just a vicious assault that led to the death or murder, we witnessed a technical lynching, committed by supposed and alleged professional police officers and they displayed and showed and demonstrated a lack of humanity.

>> these are very difficult questions. and dr. sean montgomery, thank you for helping us to understand from a medical perspective what might have been happening here. and mark claxton, always so good to have your experience and expertise on the program. thank you, both, so much. meantime, just days after taking his re-election campaign on the road for the first time, nbc confirms that donald trump is facing a grand jury investigation into alleged hush money payments and his former fixer, michael cohen, tells msnbc this could be what derails it all. >> this investigation that was to be brought by alvin bragg's office, previously cy vance jr., is the most detrimental to him, his freedom, his livelihood, his business, et cetera because it is the easiest to prove. the checks are the checks. we know a lot. there's recordings which have been released. he's not in the same position where he can deny or lie the way

that he will in some of the other matters. >> you might remember that this case centers around payments allegedly paid by cohen to stormy daniels. he says at trump's request, to keep her claims of an affair secret during the 2016 presidential campaign. cohen went to prison related to this case, and other crimes, but could now be the key witness if there is an indictment. i want to bring in telly, an msnbc legal analyst. good to have you here. the first question is why now? right? this case has been around for at least five years, what do you imagine has changed? >> that is difficult to understand, chris. and what is also difficult to understand is why this is the case that the manhattan d.a. is moving forward with first, rather than the larger case about valuations and mr. trump's business practices that appears

to still be on the cutting room floor. and, you know, i think it is important to manage expectations here despite the clip that we just heard. i don't think that this is the mortal threat to mr. trump that it made out to be. in large part because this still really sounds like a federal crime. and i think it is going to be challenging for the d.a. to say that under state law, as a legal matter, this is more than a misdemeanor, falsification of business records. >> well, "the new york times" goes even further in presenting what would be the counter case, right, to the fact that this may be what finally gets donald trump. let me read, a conviction is not a sure thing because it could hinge on showing mr. trump and his company falsified records to hide the payout from voters day before the 2016 election, a low

level felony charge. the case would also rely on the testimony of michael cohen, mr. trump's former fixer, who made the payment and who himself pleaded guilty to federal charges related to the hush money in 2018. the question, obviously being if michael cohen is your key witness, how credible is he, right? >> indeed. so, that times piece lays out two problems. the untested legal theory of saying why this is a state felony, and relying on michael cohen. look, i mean, federal prosecutors, prosecutors always say to juries that cooperating witnesses tend to be people who committed crimes as well, with the person who is being tried. but here it seems that the reliance on him, he's just much more important to this case than he would have been to, again, that valuations case, which pulled in lots of evidence over time. it would have alleged that

donald trump had lied to tax authorities and to banks and to other government regulators, all to enrich himself. and, you know, it is good to bring even a small case. this is a discreet event that happened seven years ago. but it is hard to understand why you would choose to bring the smaller case, rather than the one that really could go to the heart of criminal behavior over time. >> tali, i have a feeling this isn't the last time we discuss this. thank you for being on the program. appreciate it. congressman george santos now off his committees. so what made him give them up? and the new glimpse at whether his voters think he should keep his job. plus, trying to win over voters one bridge or tunnel at a time. we'll talk to the white house communications director about the president's drive ahead of the state of the union. and what house republicans are doing to make it easier to investigate president biden, his family, and his administration.

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fbi did go in and search president biden's center, his offices at the penn biden center in mid-november. but as we understand, the biden team was very cooperative, his lawyers let them in, no search warrants were needed or used in this search. it is not the same as what we might have seen, say, in august when the fbi conducted that raid, that surprise raid on mar-a-lago when they say his team was less than cooperative. what we don't know is whether or not they found anything of consequence, whether they found any classified materials when they went in and conducted this search. remember, we first -- the fbi was first alerted when someone was going through that office, and found some documents that may have been classified and reached out to the justice department is what we have learned from the biden team. and so this seems that it was something on top of that first initial message to go in and make sure that there was nothing, in fact, inside. but it does really underline the timeline here now that we

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correspondent. ali, santos has been under fire from before he was sworn in. so why now? what more do we know about this decision? >> yeah, none of the turmoil is new, but what is the fact that he finally met with speaker kevin mccarthy yesterday and this morning went into the house conference meeting and said that he would be resigning his seats on these two committees. at least for now because a statement from his spokesperson, which seems to be missing a word, but the general gist is that he's reserved these seats until he's been cleared of both campaign and personal finance investigations. that was always sort of the line of demarcation that we have talked about here, both with our sources in leadership and also just with rank and file republicans because it is difficult to kick out a member of congress, but it is certainly made much easier if they have been indicted, which that has not happened with santos yet. nevertheless, it was clearly part of the conversation with

speaker mccarthy based on what he told us. watch. >> yeah, i met with george santos yesterday and i think it was appropriate decision that -- until he can clear everything up, he's off the committees now. >> is this something you asked him to do? >> we had a discussion and he asked me if he could do that. i think it was an appropriate decision. >> reporter: and, look, throughout this whole santos saga, you, me, brendan, we all talked about the certain levers that speakers can exercise to get people to do things within their conference, brendan certainly knows this well from his time in this building. clearly that's one of the things that might have been on the table in this closed door discussion with mccarthy, who has been reluctant to weigh in on the santos situation, but certainly this is a change even though santos continues to say he's not going to resign. >> yeah, and, brendan, the other thing that you and i and ali have talked about is how mccarthy has to balance damage from this controversy, the distraction it causes with the need to keep a slim majority. i'm wondering, being as close as you are to two speakers, does

this tell you anything about kevin mccarthy's patience level, are republicans hoping they can wait it out, it will blow over? obviously it is not as if suddenly all the lies he's told will be proven true. >> no. and there is another dynamic here that i think we need to appreciate. currently right now house republicans are trying to -- an effort to remove ilhan omar from her committees. she's accused of making anti-semitic remarks and they're having trouble finding the votes among republicans to be able to kick her off. would not surprise me at all if kevin mccarthy realized if they didn't remove george santos, and they made an effort to remove ilhan omar, democrats would seek retaliation and force a vote to kick george santos off. this may be a situation where the speaker is leaning on the member, helping them understand the trouble they're in, helping him come to the right decision to step down, but it may be also a think of trying to get ahead of what democrats can do. democrats can force a vote to

kick santos off of his committees if they so choose. i think they probably saw the writing on the wall and that was likely to happen if they went after ilhan omar, so they're trying to get ahead of that a little bit. so this is a pretty significant development. usually members are removed from their committees once they're indicted for something. now that he's already off the committees, if he is indicted as is very possible, it may feel like the next step is to remove him, so this is a pretty significant development that puts him on pretty thin ice. >> you know, santos has, brendan, been defiant about staying in congress up until this point. and i just want to remind people what he said a couple of weeks ago. >> i wish well all of their opinions. but i was elected by 142,000 people and until those same 142,000 people tell me they don't want me, we'll find out in two years. >> but now that poll i mentioned also has 78% of people in his district saying he should resign including 71% of republicans. does public pressure play into

this at all? or, i mean, we have seen a lot of examples of how congress has ignored and leadership has ignored what polling says, but ask that change the equation in any way? >> it certainly feels untenable. look, i don't think there is a recall mechanism in new york for his constituents who actually vote him out. the real recourse here is either the house kicks him out or he is basically forced to resign. and i don't think that is an outcome we should dismiss, that they eventually do that. look, one of the ways -- the house is built on relationships. and if all of your colleagues think you're a distraction, that's one thing. but to make it even worse, they're probably making it really hard for them back home. i'm sure every one of the members of congress has to go home and answer questions about george santos. that's a quick way to lose friends in the house. so, it wouldn't surprise me if house republicans would be happy to actually get rid of him. but it all comes back to the fact they have a very narrow

majority. they have to make a decision. is it worth removing the headache to be down another seat because it is very likely that if santos resigns, democrats pick this seat back up. >> oh, don't you miss working in the speaker's office, brendan buck, thank you as always. ali, great to see you as well. up next, as the nation reels from the brutal death of tyre nichols, can the administration do anything to boost police reform? i'll talk to white house communications director kate bedingfield. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. watching reports" only on msnbc need tot to where they're going. and at chevron, we're working to help reduce the carbon intensity of the fuels that keep things moving. today, we're producing renewable diesel that can be used in existing diesel tanks. and we're committed to increasing our renewable fuels production. because as we work toward a lower carbon future, it's only human to keep moving forward.

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every freaking one. >> let's bring in white house communications director kate bedingfield. great to see you. we're one week away from the state of the union. is what we heard a preview of what we're going to hear and will that be the playbook going forward? >> well, chris, there is no question you're going to hear in the state of the union next week about the things that the president has accomplished that are making a difference in people's lives. you're going to hear about him investing in america, you're going to hear a lot about what he talked about today, bringing good union jobs back to the united states, and investing in manufacturing. and improving infrastructure. so, improving bridges, tunnels, roads that have needed improvement for a long, long time, that we haven't been able to get done until president biden came into office and was able to get the bipartisan infrastructure bill passed. so you're going to hear him certainly in the state of the union next week, but also as he continues to be out around the country, talking about the impact his agenda is having on families, you're going to hear him talk about what it means to ensure that a bridge is now --

has been repaired, so that goods can move over it more quickly and your commute to work is shorter. these are things that have a real tangible impact in people's lives and you're going to hear him continue to talk about that. >> something else that will have an impact on debt ceiling -- on people's lives is the debt ceiling showdown, right? the president has this critical meeting tomorrow, with speaker kevin mccarthy and he was asked about that, this morning. i want to play it. >> will you negotiate with mccarthy? >> show me his budget. speaker mccarthy then tweeted, quote, i'm not interested in political games. i'm coming to negotiate for the american people. if neither side seems willing to negotiate, if they seem pretty entrenched in their positions, how do you get this done? >> well, let's start with a really critical point here, which is that speaker mccarthy and the congress have a constitutional obligation to prevent america from defaulting. the president is not going to negotiate or allow the full, faith and credit of the united

states to be held hostage, when it is congress' responsibility and the speaker's responsibility to ensure that we prevent default and speaker mccarthy knows this, he voted three times for a clean debt ceiling increase under president trump. the president is not going to allow the full, faith and credit of the united states to be held hostage. that said what the president intends to do in the meeting tomorrow have a conversation about fiscal responsibility. the president has said he's going to put his budget forward on march 9th. and he's going to ask speaker mccarthy to put his plan on the table. if the speaker wants to have a conversation about fiscal responsibility, then he owes transparency to the american people. let's see where he intends to make those cuts. does he intend to make cuts to social security, does he intend to make cuts to medicare as many in his caucus has said they do. president biden has a record of having brought the deficit down $1.7 trillion, under his first two years in office. the inflation reduction act is paid for. he has a sterling record on fiscal responsibility and he's

going to ask speaker mccarthy tomorrow to put his plan on the table. let's see it. let's see where he intends to make the cuts. >> that's tomorrow. and we just learned moments ago the president will be meeting with members of the congressional black caucus on thursday. following the tragedy of tyre nichols and the calls for police reform. i'm wondering, kate, i know you never want to get ahead of the messaging of your boss, but i wonder if you can give us a view into the meeting because beyond the executive actions that the president has taken, beyond the public pressure campaign, the beyond bringing the nichols family to the state of the union, which will be a powerful visual, we also know that the george floyd justice in policing act which the president supports seems to be pretty dead on capitol hill. it is a long shot at best. what can he say to them about what the white house can do to help get some change across the finish line? >> well, as you rightly point out, the president has called many times for congress to bring the george floyd policing act to his desk.

when senate republicans held that up, he passed an executive order that included stricter use of force accountability and more accountability at the local and state levels as well. but obviously that does not even begin to fully solve the problem and the president is willing to work with anybody who is willing to come to the table to tackle this issue. and that, of course, includes republicans who should be part of the solution here. the president spoke with mr. nichols' mother and stepfather at the end of last week and expressed his outrage and horror as so many people across the country also felt watching the video of the beating that took mr. nichols' life and he talked about, you know, their courage and also his understanding of the excruciating pain of losing a child. so, you know, he is absolutely believes we all have got to come to the table and find solutions here that are going to create meaningful change over the long term. >> kate bedingfield, thank you so much. i want to continue the conversation.

when we look at the nichols tragedy, do you see a path to take this moment and get something substantive done? i think back to, you know, listening to president obama in his final press conference talking about his ongoing disappointment, that meaningful gun reform couldn't be passed after sandy hook. when you think you have the public behind you, and you have so much emotion behind you, do you seeing some different here that joe biden can help or are we just too divided to make any progress, jim? >> chris, i think there is a chance to get something. i think this is one of those seminole moments where you step back and say, this is a moment where all america said this is ridiculous. this is exactly the kind of thing we can not have happen. we have to call to our better angels as joe biden says. and i think -- >> he said that after newtown and we said it -- i really think having watched him, barack obama believed it in that moment that

there could be change. >> yeah, well, as you know, joe biden and senate house democrats and republicans working together to pass a comprehensive bill last year, didn't go far enough, barely did anything, but it was a start. and the truth is we just need to restart these conversations, chris. if i'm a senate republican, it is just pretty much untenable to continue to sit back here. this isn't guns where you have, you know, huge constituencies like the nra that own the republican party. this is police reform that americans know have to happen. and there were good faith discussions that went away when the senate republicans just wanted to play politics before the next election. i think this could be a moment where they look at this and say, hey, we have got to restart these conversations. if you're tim scott, the south carolina republican who is a lead on killing this last year, you look at this and say, this is a moment where i have to step up or why am i here?

why am i a member of the senate if i do nothing in these moments? >> i want to move to the 2024 front because yesterday donald trump sued veteran journalist bob woodward. he claims woodward didn't get consent to release audio recordings of the interviews he conducted in trump's final two years in office. of course both bob woodward and the publishing company say that's ridiculous, they have full consent. do you see this as a sign of a flailing campaign desperate for attention or just trump being trump or maybe are the two inextricable? >> yeah, you're right. they're both. it is ridiculous. how do you go through that process, sit down so many times with bob woodward and say that stuff wasn't going to get out and months later you file a lawsuit? i mean, trump hates transparency, but loves a nice lawsuit. it is just ridiculous. to your point, it really is a flailing campaign. when i ran the president's re-elect my whole theory was

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