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continuing his road show ahead of the state of the union getting ready to meet with democratic party leaders in new york. but those classified documents becoming headlines again. nbc confirming an fbi search of his one-time washington office. what we know about the timeline and what was found. plus, an nbc news exclusive on the january 6th committee's final report. specifically what's not in it including why federal law enforcement agent sis didn't act on warnings ahead of the insurrection. with me is our news team on the ground in memphis. antonia and garrett haake is joining us as well. antonia, tyre nichols' funeral is a day away. talk through the movement on the ground where you are. >> reporter: well, we're hearing from officials that we are likely to get news of additional personnel actions in the coming days. now, the personnel actions could mean a couple of different things.

it could mean departmental charges against additional officers or emts. firings. it could mean criminal charges coming out of the d.a.'s office and to be clear, since the beginning, the d.a. has left the door open that additional charges could be coming not just for the five officers identified as being at the center of this, but also for people whose names we might not yet know. wlerned of two more officers who have been relieved of their duties including one white officer in the first video. but then there were three members of the fire department, two emts and a lieutenant. so people here in the community are pushing for all those folks to be facing criminal charges. they want them to be wrapped into the argument that all of these people played a role in tyre nichols' death. while much of the community is focused frankly on just you know wrapping this family with love as they prepare to lay him to

rest, to celebrate his life behind me here tomorrow, there is this sense that sort of steam is picking up here. many of the activists feel heartened by this new news. they feel like their pushes for accountability, their presence out in the streets here in memphis is part of what has gotten this movement, but there's also this gnawing feeling when i talk to many people here that they still don't have the full picture. they don't understand how this traffic stop got started. they don't understand why people waited for minutes on the ground to render aid. there's this feeling yet still that officials haven't been transparent enough with them. so while the funeral is going to be about his life tomorrow, expect a lot of additional pushes now for more news and a desire for charges to be faced by all the folks and parties i just walked you through. >> live for us in memphis. thaurng. garrett, one of the things you heard are these calls for accountability. that includes here in washington with calls for police reform on

capitol hill. give us a gut check on that push. i think it was 24 hours ago on i think it was the this show where you said hey, in reality, something would have to change significantly with the calculus to get something across the finish loin. is that where we are today, are some of the discussions opening windows to police reform on the federal level? >> i don't think we've moved significantly towards action at this point. you talk about the pressure and calls for accountability. those are largely coming from one side of the political aisle. primarily democrats who have engaged on this issue. the congressional black caucus wanting to meet with the president to discuss this. whether it's pressure on him, on the president, to bring this up and focus more of his attention on this issue in the state of the union. whether it's the reintroduction of something like the george floyd which passed the house in the last congress twice but only with democratic votes. that's not going to get off the ground in a republican-controlled house and it's not going to get to 60 in

the senate and right now, leadership in the house and senate and two different parties is looking at this issue in a different way. here's a little bit from house democratic and republican leadership from just this morning. >> you can count on us to introduce measures that will further accountability within policing. we have been clear. >> i'm strongly getting rid of qualified immunity or this whole defund the police movement where some people try to go after cops that were good cops. >> i asked him if house republicans would put anything on the floor. he pointed to one house republican bill from the last congress. there's the justice act which was tim scott's answer to the negotiations. he may try to bring that forward although he gave a speech on the floor last night that did not sound optimistic. on fox news for example, republican lawmaker aren't

particularly getting asked about this. there's just not the same pressure on this side to make this a federal issue. until that changes, we're right where we were yesterday and unfortunately before mr. nichols was killed, which is basically nowhere on police reform as a federal issue, a priority. >> thank you very much to the both of you for starting us off this afternoon. any minutes, president biden is set to speak at a fund raising in new york city just days before his state of the union address and as we're learning new information about the investigation into how he handled classified documents, nbc confirming the fbi searched the penn biden center way back in november meaning law enforcement was involved earlier than we first knew. it's one of several issues following president biden ahead of next week's big speech and possible 2024 announcement of a run, maybe, that could follow it. let me bring in mike memoli and julia ainslie. julia, significant new reporting

here that the fbi was at those offices in november which seems all but certain to raise more questions now from people like mem in the white house press corp. about transparency and them being forthcoming with information when they had it. >> it doesn't really completely conflict. they said they had been cooperative with the justice department from the beginning and that's what we're hearing from two senior law enforcement officials. this was in mid november after they got that initial november 2nd alert from the biden team saying that some classified documents had been found in the penn biden center office then the fbi came in. they did not need to use a warrant. they say they were cooperative. we don't know exactly when this was. sometime in mid november. or what was found. or whether or not they found anything classified. in other words, whether or not there was something that should have been turned over that wasn't. we don't know that yet. all we know is that there's this additional law enforcement search so yes, it doesn't conflict what they're saying, but it's a critical piece of the

timeline. a timeline we thought we would have fully understood by this point. especially as we heard merrick garland map out these key plots on the timeline when he announced robert herr and it's something the white house gets asked about daily and this is the first we've ever heard of this search. >> mem, i want to know what you're hearing from white house searches on that and all the other things the president would prefer to be talking about like for example, what republicans are up to. we're getting word that the president has gone after the way that speaker mccarthy locked down that speakership, criticizing him for making what he described as off the wall promises to other members of the republican party. >> if you want insight into what he's going to be saying in his state of the union address, which is a week from today, you can look at the infrastructure he held here in new york. the white house announcing $1.2 billion for projects across the country, including a tunnel

in new york. this is going to be a major theme on the economy in the president's speech. if you want to know what the president is thinking about the challenges facing him, i'm telling my colleagues listen closely to what the president says at these closed door fund-raisers. the president saying here the speaker of the house made these off the wall promises to republicans in his caucus that really make the challenge of negotiating a debt ceiling increase really difficult. that's why we heard the president say his message to the speaker is going to be show me your budget, i'll show you mine. he knows the challenges in the republican party to get votes for anything that might be able to pass. now, as it relate to what julie was laying out, this is just one of the battles the president is fighting in a year which president biden wants to stay above the fray. doing yesterday in baltimore, friday in philadelphia. this is how he wants to spend his year, talking about big

accomplishments, but the distraction to his message of this drip drip drip from the investigations is one from the house and one they're wrestling with internally. they want to abide by their pledge to support the independence of the justice department, but there's a constant push and pull about what to disclose to try to stay ahead of the news here. >> you've talked about what the president is going to be doing in the next week. can we talk about what the vice president is going to be doing? we just found out she will be in memphis tomorrow. set to attend tyre nichols' funeral. this is a significant moment. we talk about the president being the consoler in chief. in this instance, it is going to be kamala harris along with people like al sharpton who will be delivering the eulogy. members of george floyd's family, et cetera. now the vice president will be adding her voice to the chorus of people who want to honor him

and who have been calling for change. >> this is a real indication by the white house of how they want to show concern on the part ahead of the president's state of the union for this issue of police reform, which has been a major focus of his, but one that haven't been able to show real progress. just within the last few hours, the white house was saying there would be a delegation of white house officials including senior adviser, but not somebody with the stature of the president or vice president. so interesting that we're going to see kamala harris making this trip. her history making role as the first african american woman to be the vice president of the united states is not lost. this is i think a sign that the white house is trying to meet the moment here. this is we saw the white house also confirm today the president's going to be meeting with members of the congressional black caucus. the president talked about the need for police reform in his first address to congress. he asked congress to deliver the george floyd bill by the anniversary of his death. that didn't happen. last year, he talked about the need for police reform, but was marrying it with m so of the midterm politics saying we are

not the party of defund the police. we need to support the police. it's going to be interesting to see how that message evolves. not just as the vice president attends this service tomorrow, but what the president's going to be able to say knowing as garrett laid out a few moments ago, the very difficult politics with republicans in control of the house now. >> thank you very much for that. julia, our thanks to you as well. we've got more coming up including what george santos is saying he will be giving up his spot on house committees. what is next for him. plus, ron desantis rolling out some sweeping changes for some of florida's schools as he gears up for a possible 2024 presidential run. we'll talk about what's happen ling in the classroom later in the show. but first, that new deposition video of former president trump pleading the fifth hundreds of times. that's coming up in just 60 seconds. n just 60 seconds.

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president trump under oath last summer. >> i respectfully decline to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the united states constitution. same answer. same answer. >> if you were curious what the other four hours worth of video sounded and looked like, it's just like that. mr. trump pleading the fifth more than 400 time ls. one month later, the new york attorney general would file a $250 million lawsuit against mr. trump, his family, and company. ron allen is joining us now. >> it's really striking to see former president trump on essentially what was a witness stand in this deposition. he was questioned very certainly by the attorney general's attorneys. questioning his financial statements that had been put forward by his company since 2005. the questions were sharp alleging that he was aware that these numbers were inflated.

that he had approved this. instructed his financial people to do this. all this to enhance his financial position. his company's financial position. we also got a sense of how contentious the relationship is between president trump and the attorney general in new york. in a statement, he called her a renegade prosecutor, a disgrace who's made a career of attacking him. before the official questioning began, he did also say briefly that i don't know what i did wrong to be here essentially. that his lawyers told him to start taking the fifth. here's mr. trump in a statement explaining why he did that. >> i once asked if you're innocent why are you taking the fifth amendment. i was asking that question. now i know the answer to that question. when your family, your company, and all the people in your orbit have become the targets of an

unfounded, politically motivated witch hunt supported by lawyers, prosecutors and even the fake news media, you really have no choice. >> push back at that saying of course that's not true. this is a civil case and remember in a civil case, the fact that you took the fifth amendment can be presented to a jury and the jury can infer from that whatever they want in many cases. $250 million lawsuit, but also the attorney general is trying to stop the trump organization and donald trump from ever doing business in this state again and we expect a trial sometime in the fall. >> ron allen, thank you very much for that reporting. appreciate it. next up here on the show, just how many of george santos' constituents would like to see him no longer in that job. we'll talk about it in just a second. plus new reporting from our team about former president trump's 2024 campaign and why it's strapped for cash. one of the reporters behind that scoop will join us in just a minute. behind that scoop will join us in just a minute doors can lead us toward what's important.

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george santos is saying he is going to sit out of the committees he was just assigned to until he clears up the investigations telling his colleagues he will step aside to, again, from the committees, to in his words, prevent from being a distraction, but what he still says is he will not resign. t

resign as a new poll shows 78% of voters in his new york district would like to see santos step down. and 71% say speaker mccarthy should not have seated santos on those two committees. i want to bring in ali vitali. this is in some ways, the first crack in the wall for santos here, who's facing pressure to resign. i think that poll showed that even many republicans in his home district want to see him resign. the statement that you heard alluded to there in that hallway conversation said that with the ongoing attention surrounding his personal and campaign financial investigations, he's submitted this request to temporarily step away. what is the status of those investigations? what are you hearing from sources on the hill about this because this is kind of a key moment for him. >> yeah, it's a pivotal moment. especially because the chaos of

new things coming out about george santos isn't new. it's been going on for weeks. since even before he was sworn into congress. what is new is he met with speaker mccarthy last night. clearly they had a conversation about what he could do in the short-term while we're waiting to see several of these vest gass pan out both at the state and local level, but also in regards to campaign finance violations that could be illegal and thus make it very difficult if not impossible for him to continue serving in congress. so for mccarthy, he's still playing a numbers game here. he is a tight majority as we talked about. that's why santos still counts to that overall number, but stepping off those committees is something speaker mccarthy talked about with santos. that's not resigning, it's different. but you're right. it can be viewed as being on thin ice here. democrats from their perspective are looking at it this way though. watch. >> they defended putting him on committees and now they're

announcing that he's not going to serve on a committee. so i just don't understand what the play of the day is. >> so again, there's pete agulir talking about what they see as hypocrisy. i think an important piece of this, we've talked about the politics, the numbers game. waiting for these potential indictments if they were to find some campaign finance violations. those are important in addition to the ethics committee stuff, but at the same time for santos, he's reserving the right to come back to these committees and all of it comes against the backdrop of republicans potentially trying to take congresswoman omar off the foreign affairs committee. in these conversations as republicans have tried to play with who can serve on democratic committees, the regular refrain from reporters has been, okay, what about santos? by having him step off committees, it sort of neutralizes that line of questioning while still allowing republicans to keep the numbers they need. >> ali, thank you very much.

new fund raising numbers shared exclusively with msnbc show former president trump's 2024 campaign getting off to an underwhelming start financially. in other words, he's kind of strapped for campaign cash. mr. trump raising $9.5 million in the last six weeks of 2022, which is 2 million less than in the six weeks before his launch. that weak return now triggering a revamp or a rethink inside the trump campaign for what's expected to be a competitive republican primary in the next year. john allen helped break this exclusive story along with our colleague, mark. so, john, there's an argument to be made and there was the argument that was being made before mr. trump announced his campaign so soon after the midterms that this could be in fact problematic here. talk about the timing, what team trump plans to do about this. >> if you look inside these number, there are about 300,000 donors he got money from.

99.48% of those are under that 200 limit which means that about 3,000 of his donors are people giving 200 or more. so he's still got that fund raising base. donald trump was anxious to announce, super anxious to announce. he wanted to do it as early as july. he ended up getting convinced not to do it before the midterms then as a result when he got out and announced the campaign right afterwards, he's doing so in kind of fund raising doldrums. in all campaigns, they know after an election, it's hard tore raise money. in addition to that, he's been banned from facebook since january 6th. technically january 7th, but basically since inciting the riot at the capitol. so he has not had that platform to do fund raising since he launched the campaign but he's going to get that back. facebook is going to allow him back. so that will be helpful to him and of course he is starting to build up the fund raising

operation. a clear acknowledgment it's not going the way he'd like. he's hired a new digital vendor to do that fund raising in addition to the one he had. probably going to see something like a traditional big money structure from his campaign as well where you have bundlers that get checks at big events. >> so you've laid out some of the reasons why it's believed he could bolster some of his campaign cash here. what about his potential republican rivals here? because once they announce, they will begin fund raising, too, the former president likely has the of course biggest name recognition out of any of them in the mix so far. >> what a lot of these other folks are going to do is go to big donors. ron desantis, all signs are that he's certainly thinking about running for president and probably going to get into the race. you know, he just ran a race in florida that he won by 20 points. donors all over the country were giving to that race. this is somebody who has the capacity to raise hundreds of

millions of dollars. there are some others who might get in the race, mike pence for example, who have long time donors. you can expect this is going to be an expensive race for the republican primaries. trump has seen some donor fatigue. he hits his donors with requests day in and day out and is going to have to get them rejuvenated. >> thank you. speaking of governor desantis in florida, he is rolling out big changes to public colleges an universities in the state laying out a plan to focus on what he calls education not indoctrination. making hiring processes stricter and banning dei programs. he also appears to be taking specific aim at a small liberal arts school in sarasota. with that new board planning major changes. they are meeting now while students in the area protest.

>> we allowed to succeed here then continue his authoritarian takeover everywhere under their control. it could happen to your school next if you don't help defend new college. >> i want to bring in maura barrett who was all over this story. you previewed this on streaming. you spoke, went down to the school. you've spoken with people there. it's tiny. less than 500 students. excuse me, fewer than 700 students are enrolled. what's up with this school? why is desantis speaking at this one and what do these changes mean? >> well, this is a small, public university. that means they're state oversighted. something that the governor can have control over and why he's able to appoint those new trustees and both the governor and new board of trustees appointed to low retention rates or low salaries for coming out of new college is why they're working on these changes. but students, parent, faculty

i've spoken with in the area haven't expressed concern about this. the smaller classes is something they welcome and they're more concerned about this small school setting examples for universities across the state, which is what you saw with the proposal. i want you to hear quickly some to have conversations i had with both faculty and students when i visited the campus. >> we feel like political pawns in the greater culture war in our governor's political ambitions. >> politics shouldn't really be playing a big role in our education. >> and so these faculty and students are worried that this oversight, which is normal with the state institution as i mentioned, is just going too far. i spoke with a new trustee, a well-known conservative activist and some things he's introducing like abolishing diversity, equity and inclusion, critical

race theory, is something students are concerned about what could affect the make up, future enrollment. he's described the quote political genius of the governor as what will be the guiding light of the new board as they introduce these new changes. specifically targeting antibias training and diversity dei initiatives calling them quote, vicious, racist ideologies. there's a lot of tension at the school this afternoon. >> thank you very much for that reporting. still ahead, an nbc news exclusive. you're seeing first this hour. our team getting into what did not make it into the january 6th committee's final report and why. but first, the secretary of state wrapping up a trip to the middle east. we're live in jerusalem, next. middle east. we're live in jerusalem, next.

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still may not be prepared for extremist threats. that was left out. ken dilanian has that exclusive story and joins us now. explain this reporting and the question of why here. >> well, this team of investigators found that while donald trump was the proximate cause of the january 6th riot because of a speech he gave urging people to go to the capitol, there were lot of intelligence warnings that even the capitol police and secret service failed to act on and get a secure perimeter around that capitol to make sure it was protected. what this team found is that this attack could have been prevented. the mob could have been stopped had they acted on all this intelligence that showed direct threats to the capitol. and it wasn't included in the report because key committee members didn't want it in there because they thought it would detract from their focus on donald trump. i interviewed the chief investigator. he didn't want to talk about those internal deliberations,

but here's what he said about the findings. had law enforcement acted on that intelligence, do you believe the attack on the capitol could have been successfully repelled? >> it would have been a lot different had law enforcement taken a more assertive, protective posture. the intel in advance was pretty specific and it was enough in our view for law enforcement to have done a better job operationalizing a secure perimeter. >> now that's the opposite of what the fbi has said. they've told us frequently the intel was not credible so it's significant that the biggest investigation into january 6th found there was intel that could have been used. >> live for us on that. thank you. you can catch his full exclusive report tonight on "nbc nightly news" with lester holt at 6:30 eastern. i want to bring in adviser for the congressional integrity project and former spokesperson

for the committee. good to see you. you worked on this committee. you understand that in a way that i think people outside of the committee cannot. was it a mistake to not touch on what ken has talked about in the final report? >> i will say that i think in all of my career in politics, maybe everything that i'll ever do, working on the january 6th committee was an honor because you had democrats and republicans, you had a nonpartisan investigation look at why what happened at the capitol happened. i'm really proud of that. i think we found the right conclusion, which was that donald trump was at the center of this multipart plan. i think that we put out a lot of information and a part of the report that we conducted and showed has two portions about security and intelligence failures, about the national guard response. did we have enough time to look into everything? i don't think so. i think we should continue doing that, but by can't let it happen

again. >> it was interesting to me that you believe the committee came to the right conclusion. i know there was some reporting nbc news did there was stier to put the blame on the shoulders of former president trump. you also say if you have more time. would you have put more in it? would the committee have put more about intel failures if congress hadn't been up? >> i can't speculate or pretend that i can control what any of the incredible members would have decided to do with that time, but i think what's clear and what our report found was that january 6th would not have happened without donald trump. it was a multipart plan. he was at the center of it. we should continue focusing on these antidemocratic factions that exist in our politics and make sure that it never happens again. >> i want to ask you something else though. do you personally, you were there, you saw it. you know people, everybody here in d.c. knows somebody on the

hill. do you think there should have been more on the failures? >> i never want to experience what i did on january 6th. i was a staffer on that day. i think we need to do better while also making sure we talk about the bravery of the officers that were there. caroline edwards testified at our first hearing. she's now a friend of mine. these are heroes. we need to make sure we applaud their work while making sure it doesn't happen again. >> you talk about investigatory committees. we are seeing that on the republican side as it relate to what we're seeing this week. small o oversight. the oversight committee or judiciary committee or whatever, but republicans leading vest gagss as has been long anticipated here. i am sure and i know you think you see some real distinctions between the work of these different committees. >> yes, i do. there's room for legitimate oversight in congress. i was a part of that.

the january 6th committee was oversight we needed. then there's what's happening now with james comer, the chair of oversight. jim jordan, the chair of judiciary. these are going to be trump style political attacks. i think a part of that is look who's on the committee. marjorie taylor greene. jim jordan, scott perry, andy biggs. those are two people who defied subpoenas by the select committee. so these aren't individuals interested in facts. they're interested in >> thank you so much. thanks for being on set. >> thank you. >> guys, serious warning especially for women in the oregon area using dating apps. 36-year-old obidiah foster.

he kidnapped a woman and tortured her for days. since then he's been active on the apps, dating apps to find victims and escape and find police. he is armed and extremely dangerous. nbc news correspondent steve patterson is following this. it is a bizarre story that has a nexus to something people use all the time. do people have leads? where does this go? we don't know where this guidance comes from. specifically what app he's on. tinder, bumble, match. some of them are like google. we have several of them. we know they are investigating. they have found so far nothing to indicate that he has a profile on any of those popular ones. if police say he is on there, the warning is out there. which means stay away from this guy. he is armed. he is dangerous. they also are asking for the public's help.

he has any information that leads to his capture. look at his eyes. look at his bone structure because he's likely to change his beard and his hair. right now there is a massive drag net. it's set up in oregon because police believe he has connections in oregon, he has ties in oregon, he may have friends in oregon that may be helping him evade capture. that's what they're worrying about with the apps. he's looking for more victims or perhaps women that can help him evade capture. 2017 there was a woman, his ex-girlfriend, that said she was choked almost to the point of passing out. 2019 there was a woman, his current girlfriend, that says she escaped after being beaten and tortured for weeks. she had abrasions on her wrists because of how tightly she was tied for so long, broken ribs, bruised eyes. this woman they found has been in critical condition now for a week. you don't need descriptions. you don't need pictures how bad it was. the chief of police has talked

about how emotionally impacted he was and how much that is driving police to find this guy. so they are looking for him. we know they're working with the fbi that may constitute an expanded search area. they are squarely focused on oregon. that's where the search is. >> they sure do. steve patterson live in l.a. thank you out west for us. in texas, a very different kind of mystery here that officials are following. a couple of monkeys missing after a couple of suspicious incidents. morgan chesky has more. >> it's the curious face behind dallas zoo's latest mystery. two rare emperor tamarates almost identical to this one. first labeled missing now considered taken. the first warning sign came monday morning. the animal care said the tamarins were missing. the habitat had been intentionally compromised. the tamarins were taken.

>> the more i hear about this, the more i think there is malintent behind it. >> they fear the two monkeys with special dietary and habitat needs are not getting the care they're required. they're known for the trademark moustache are considered very friendly to human. >> you can take an animal out of the wild but you can't take the wild out of the animal. for anybody who thinks you can turn this into a good pet, you're wrong. >> reporter: the incident is the fourth animal mystery in less than a month. on january 13th a clouded leopard was reported missing and found. crews noticed cuts in fencing including the leopard's. then on january 21st an endangered vulture was discovered dead. >> what we found was deemed to be very suspicious. we pointed to this not being a natural death. >> the repeated issues causing other zoos to scrutinize their own security in an effort to

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hi, everyone. it's 4:00 here in washington. it is a stunning reversal even by the standards of donald trump, the disgraced ex-president. the man who once said that pleading the fifth was for the mob and asked, quote, if you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment? well, fast forward six years. he ended up telling the people anyone in my position not pleading the fifth will be a fool. it shows a scene team trump has worked for many years to avoid. video of his deposition shows donald trump under oath pleading the fifth more than 400 times in the ag's probe into the business practices of the trump org. it begins with this