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good wednesday morning. i'm lindsey riser at msnbc headquarters in new york. following breaking news right now. the fbi is connecting a planned search of president biden's rehoboth beach home, according to multiple sources. it comes after classified items were found in other locations. the president's attorney tells nbc news the searchhas president biden's full support and cooperation. also today, a somber good-bye in memphis. thousands set to attend a
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funeral service for tyre nichols this afternoon. it comes as details about what happened the night nichols encountered police are coming under new scrutiny. and we're learning more about the past conduct of some of the officers involved. more on that ahead. also this morning, bone chilling weather sweeping the nation. a triple threat of freezing rain, sleet and snow causes accidents, power outages and grounds thousands of flights. parts of the country are bracing for windchills that could dip as low as negative 60. we're tracking this brutal cold coming up. plus, face to face, after a public war of words over our country's debt limit as president biden and speaker mccarthy are set to meet at the white house this afternoon. the expectations according to our us who team could not be lower. what both sides are bringing to the table. and the 2024 gop presidential primary is about to get a little more crowded as former u.n. ambassador nikki haley moves closer to becoming former president trump's first
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official challenger. but he has some thoughts. >> i said, look, you know, go by your heart if you want to run. she publicly stated i would never run against my president, he was a great president. >> when we could get an official announcement and how she could reshape the field. we're going start with the fbi search of the president's rehoboth beach, delaware, house. joining me now, chief white house correspondent kristen welker, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg and msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. kristen, what can you tell us about the search this morning and how is the white house reacting? >> reporter: well, that search is under way right now. no reaction from the white house yet. but let me just read you what we are hearing from the president's personal attorney who writes the doj is conducting a planned search of the home in rehoboth, delaware, under doj standard procedures in the interest of operational security and integrity. it sought to do this work without advanced public notice
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and we agreed to cooperate. the search today is a full step in a thorough and timely doj process. we will continue to fully support and facilitate. we will have further information at the conclusion of today's search. now, it is not clear if the agents are looking for particular documents or more general classified documents, but to put all of this into perspective this comes, we learned the fbi searched the president's think tank in washington here in mid-november. that's after that initial discovery was made by the president's attorneys of the classified documents, which they turned over to the justice department. and, of course, we also know they searched his home in wilmington, delaware. there is a special counsel investigation into all of this. there is a special counsel investigation into former president trump's handling of classified material in that case. mar-a-lago was searched because he refused to turn over the documents. the white house continues to make that distinction. so, this is yet another data point, lindsey in this story.
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>> reporter: and the doj spokesperson told nbc news yesterday that special counsel robert her who is taking over the investigation starts this week. how does this search fold into what we know so far about the justice department's investigation. >> reporter: this is not unexpected because, again, we know the fbi searched his home in wilmington and searched his think tank here and we also know the national archives asked all past presidents, all past vice presidents to go through their files to determine if they have any classified documents in their residences, homes or elsewhere. and so this really fits into that broader investigation by the justice department to try to make sure that all of the is are dotted, all the ts are crossed. the white house continues to make the point that, look, they are investigating fully with this. again, a source familiar with the matter making this point to me, lindsey, there was no search warrant issued in this case because, again this is the white house fully cooperating with the
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justice department investigation. but it is another data point. of course the president's poised to give his state of the union address next week. he's likely going to announce he's running for re-election. so politically speaking this is another headwind, but the white house again continuing to stress they are cooperating every step of the way. >> so, chuck, what do you make of the planned search by the fbi? no warrants involved here. >> right, well, you don't need a warrant if the person who owns the home that is going to be searched consents to the search. you can wave your fourth amendment constitutional right for privacy, just like you can wave your fifth amendment right to self-incrimination. so, i've been saying all along whether it is the trump stuff or the pence stuff or biden stuff, one reason that the fbi is doing this is because they're also an intelligence agency, in addition to being a law enforcement agency, and they want the stuff back. having classified information floating around in the homes and garages of these former
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executive officers of the united states is just a bad idea. so if they want to get in, and the president is willing to permit them in, then they conduct the consent search, and they get the stuff back. in addition, if it turns out that any of the mishandling was intentional, that's the key word here, then it is possible that people can be charged with a crime. but that's not necessarily going to happen. and i think the first order of business is to get the stuff back. >> so, lisa, you've been nodding your head while chuck has been talking. does this change anything in president biden's case from a legal perspective? >> not yet. and until we know what, if anything, is found at the rehoboth beach home, it won't. on the other hand, lindsey, the last time the fbi was involved in what was described as a fully consensual search of the president's wilmington home, they walked away with a number of materials. bob bauer's statement that night said the fbi took materials relevant to the scope of its inquiry, including six classified items, and also took
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a number of notebooks dating back to the president's time as vice president. we would think that here the rehoboth home has been thoroughly searched already by biden's personal lawyers. however, based on our last experience, we also know that the fbi recovered materials that hadn't been found or discovered previously by the personal attorneys. so i think we'll wait and see until today's search is completed. that having been said, the atmospherics here are good for president biden. as chuck noted, this is a fully cooperative search, they're trying to get ahead of it and show that their conduct is not obstructive, and while nobody has suggested yet that it has been, the fact that president biden and his team are so enthusiastic about showing cooperation here is a legal good on balance for them. >> chuck, given the magnitude here of what we have been seeing trickle out, do you see a search happening for any other former presidents or vice presidents now? you remember outside council found a small number of classified documents at former vice president mike pence's
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indiana home last week. >> right, well, if you mean by search, lindsey, search warrant, assigned by a federal judge, then the fbi would have to have probable cause to believe that a crime had been committed and they would find evidence of the crime at the place they wanted to search. if you mean a voluntary search like the one lisa was describing, it is possible. i mean lots of folks who had access to classified information at the level that these three gentlemen did are probably making thorough searches of their own now to make sure they don't trip over the same wire. so is it possible the fbi does other searches? sure. do i know of any that are about to happen? absolutely not. and i imagine that a lot of folks who had access are going to be doing their own searches. it is a really bad idea to have classified information in your garage. it should never be there. the best thing you can say about pence, biden and trump right now is that they were extraordinarily sloppy. >> so, lisa, to that point here,
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ultimately is president biden's argument his case is vastly different from former president trump's holding up? >> i think in one case, absolutely. in the other case, we still don't know. the case against president trump goes in two directions. one is that he intentionally held on to classified documents. the other is that once that investigation was under way, both by the national archives and the department of justice that president trump obstructed both of those investigations. and in that respect, you can draw a detailed 18-month timeline of obstruction by president trump and those around him. i've done it on twitter, i encourage our audience to go find it. on the intent side so far we haven't seen any evidence that president biden himself intended to take these materials. however, the more locations in which they are found, the more places they went in between where they are found, this starts to look less like sloppiness and more like intent.
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whether that's president biden's personal intent, however, remains unknown and right now not something that i would say has happened. >> okay, lisa rubin, thank you. thank you to kristen welker and chuck rosenberg. coming up in just a few hours, tyre nichols' family and friends will gather in memphis for his funeral as we learn more about the investigation into his deadly encounter with police. slippery roads and flights grounded across the country with more than 30 million people under winter weather alerts. where more bitter cold is on the way. and can president biden and summer mccarthy come to any kind of agreement on the debt limit when they meet at the white house this afternoon? the high stakes of their first sit-down since mccarthy took the gavel. their first sit-down since mccarthy took the gavel. if i just stare at these payroll forms... my business' payroll taxes will calculate themselves. right? uhh...nope. intuit quickbooks helps you manage your payroll taxes, cheers! with 100% accurate tax calculations guaranteed. [ sneezing ] are you okay?
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a somber day for memphis as just a few hours from now somber mourners will say a final good-bye to tyre nichols. among them vice president kamala harris and people who understand the unimaginable pain tyre's parents are likely experiencing right now, including breonna taylor's mother and george floyd's brother. there is also increasing scrutiny on the memphis police department as we learned new details about the officers involved in the encounter that led to his death. nbc's ellison barber is there. also mark claxton of the black law enforcement alliance and
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jelani cobb, msnbc contributor. it is an emotional day for nichols' family, the city. the funeral was delayed to the afternoon. how are people preparing to say good-bye? >> reporter: yeah, the minister of this church, the reverend told our colleague jose diaz-balart that there are a lot of layers here, a lot of emotion. he said at the same time as this community is experiencing deep outrage they're also trying to experience and make their way through collective trauma. in addition to that, they're trying to wrap tyre's family in love and make them feel that love, warmth and know they're not alone. this will be a day of a lot of emotions. it will be in some ways a day of joy. this service today, it is a celebration of life, of the life tyre lived, the love and joy that he brought to his family and those who were closest to him. but it is also a day of deep sorrow and anger because of the
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way he left this earth. his family is pleading with people to take that rage, that frustration, and turn it into action. listen. >> keep fighting for justice for our son and my family. protect my wife because she's very fragile right now. we need that for her. trust me. and i need it too. >> i told my siblings, since this happened, like, i hate memphis. i hate coming here. my little brother didn't deserve none of this. >> that's right. >> at all. >> reporter: you think of the families, the names you mentioned who will also be here, attending this funeral, the mother of breonna taylor, the brother of george floyd, you think of people, other names that go to that list, breonna taylor, george floyd, clifford glover, amadou diallo, elton
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hayes, now tyre nichols. these are all names of people who did not ask to be a symbol of police brutality, they did not ask to be a symbol of change, and the words of tyre nichols, what he said to those officers that night was i'm just trying to go home. we watched a minute ago as the hearse arrived here at this church. this will be a heavy day for this community. but the family of tyre, the family of breonna, the family of george floyd, they're all hoping this is yet another moment that will maybe lead to some real change. lindsey? >> well, mark, multiple outlets confirmed details about the police report, first reported by "the new york times" and what the video of the encounter shows. the times notes that a police report written hours after officers beat tyre nichols was starkly at odds with what videos revealed, making no mention of a powerful kicks and punches unleashed on nichols and instea.
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the police report painted him as an irate suspect who started a fight with police officers, even reaching for one of their guns. the videos, which were released last week, showed nothing of the sort. as the department investigates, and its units and its officers, legally who faces repercussions in a possible situation like that? is it the officers? is it the department? is it the city? and how much does a glaring discrepancy like that erode public trust in what we hear from police? >> quite frankly we should all be familiar with this pattern of fact manipulation and outright lies by police. historically in these types of cases. the facts are not often documented properly or accurately and the documentation is meant toindemnify and protect the police officers. we should be grateful for video, given the history we should be
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mindful that video evidence has not been enough to provide full justice or even increased accountability in these cases of police violence and police criminality. so moving forward what we can expect are some additional disturbing facts to come out as part of this ongoing investigation. and we can also expect that there will be attempts by some to defile the memory of mr. nichols. >> mark, nbc has exclusive reporting that one of the former police officers charged in tyre's death pulled a gun on them three years ago in 2020 and threatened to shoot them both in the face. they admit they fled in a car because they had a registered handgun and small amount of pot. they say they never filed a compliant. the lawyer for this officer and the city police union have not responded to nbc news for comment. what does the protocols in place in departments around the country for something like that,
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is it oversight needed or is this simply if a complaint isn't filed that, you know, a department says we're at a loss? >> part of the problem we have in trying to change this institution of policing is that there are no clear well established national standards. so it changes and it is different from department to department. so you may have a situation where there is less of a penalty for these -- for violent infractions, and you'll have these police officers unfortunately switching and jumping from one particular police agency to the next police agency because absent of standards and absence of full accountability and that includes arrests and convictions for criminal offenses, you know, these cases continue to occur. >> jelani, you write on tyre and
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race and the actions taken so far by the memphis police and fire departments for accountability and you say, quote, these actions mark either a growing recognition of the seriousness of the problem and evolving sense of self-preservation among police departments or both. at the same time, mastering the protocols for handling the aftermath of these tragedies only highlights the fact that we are no better at preventing them from happening. we have been here before. the fact that the families of breonna taylor and george floyd will be attending the service underscore that. when can we get a clearer picture about the path our country decides to take? >> well, you know, we have at least some sense of the path that we need to take. we just have refused to take it. you know, in the aftermath of george floyd's death, and ahmad arbery's death and breonna taylor's death and the whole litany of names that are -- just in recent memory, there was a
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george floyd justice and policing act which was stalled by and large by the efforts of police unions. and so it is not a question of how, it is a question of will. and so, you know, that's part of it. the other thing is that to mark's point, one thing that is important about these departments is that they're not only -- they tend not to be accountable externally, but when you look at problems that the departments are problematic in this way, they also tend to be unaccountable internally. meaning that the internal affairs doesn't deal with complaints that police officers themselves have about the way that a department may be functioning or the way that a particular precinct may be functioning. and it is that duality that, that unaccountability on both ends that ends up augmenting or catalyzing the situations that we just saw happen in memphis. >> "the washington post" editorial board does call for bipartisan reform including banning chokeholds, limiting no knock warrants, creating a
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national registry of disciplinary actions against officers, that's what mark was talking about, and law enforcement grants being conditioned on departments fully and reliably reporting their crime and use of force statistics. why has it been so hard to implement changes like these? >> well, there have been a number of reasons why it is so difficult. one of which has been a good deal of political support. people who are providing cover for departments, even problematic departments. if you recall, in the last presidential administration, the then attorney general jeff sessions said there were no systemic problems with policing and so if you have that kind of attitude, you're going to see these situations replicate themselves over and over again. the other is the really considerable power that police unions wield and very often officers are more accountable to the union than they are to their own police chief. they wield that authority
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intrnl internally and in the political arena, it makes it even more difficult. >> thank you. this morning, the severe ice storm sweeping across a broad swath of the south is creating dangerous conditions for millions of americans. so far at least three deaths have been attributed to the weather. in multiple states, roads are covered in ice leading to deadly pileups. more than 2,000 flights canceled or delayed. traffic in arkansas was at a stand still for hours with some power lines going up in flames. nbc's gaud vanegas joins us and bill karins with where it is all headed. what are conditions like where you are? >> reporter: the temperature is in the 20s, below freezing point as you mentioned. throughout the day yesterday we saw rain, sleet, all coming down and eventually this is what created what you can see behind me. it is like a giant ice skating
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rink, all over memphis. this is what the streets look like, everything you can see is covered in ice. i have a tool so i can show you how thick this ice is. anywhere you go on streets, you have -- about a quarter inch of ice and i'lliceicle that came off one of the buildings. now we have seen some vehicles, there is a bus about to drive through, it is very dangerous to drive. we had to selected a spot not too far from here where we were going to be set up today. we have all wheel drive vehicles that we were going to use to get there and we decided to stay in this area next to our hotel because the roads were so slippery, yet we have seen some vehicles driving around, but eventually, you know, everything froze here in memphis. and in fact, i'm pretty sure if i had ice skates i could ice skate my way through the city. these are the conditions we have seen. we mentioned about the ice. yesterday, when we were actually in arkansas as well, we saw ice as thick as half an inch.
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we know anything more than a quarter of an inch could be dangerous, it creates hazardous conditions on the streets. and the overpasses and the bridges and that's why authorities are asking people to stay home if they don't need to go outside. it is not just the driving, it is also the walking. people that have gone outside to run errants or do things, it is pretty quiet out here, but almost all of them end up slipping around here. >> thank you so much to you and your crew. let's talk about this, parts of texas, arkansas, louisiana, are getting hit. we see the path there behind you? >> yesterday this time we had 25,000 people without power. that was day two. today is day three. i just peeked. we're at 284,000 people without power. we thought this would be the worst of it. this is when the most trees would come down. one thing, you know you can go out -- you can't go out in your car, go where you want to go because it is too icy. another thing to be in your house and not able to travel and you don't have power. that's what's happening today. especially in areas from waco to austin.
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that's where majority of the power outages have been occurring. that's when the heaviest amounts of freezing rain were overnight and into this morning. now that shifts. we'll see hears to the north of that, heading toward dallas and fort worth, getting into that more extreme rairains, that hal inch of ice that takes down trees and power lines. everyone in this purplish color, all included in this, under the ice storm warnings. that's where we're most concerned where power is going to come out. we have a real bad ice storm developing in southern half of arkansas right now. notice shreveport, you're okay. 36. san antonio, you're on the warm side, 34. but austin, northwards, that is where it is holding below freezing. that's where the worst of the freezing rain is going to develop. and be with us all afternoon, through tonight and maybe even into tomorrow morning. so here we are at 8:00 p.m. tonight, this pink shows you the freezing rain and sleet all over dallas to fort worth to san angelo. overnight, it just kind of sits there, it just slowly warms up. and may not warm above freezing
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in dallas until maybe 10:00, 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. we could add another quarter to a half inch on top of what you already have. and that's where the concerns are. then tomorrow, at this time, and tomorrow night, it is just a rainstorm in the southeast. as far as the big concerns go, additional ice, i'm watching abilene, san angelo, waco, dallas, everywhere in between, that's one pocket. then i mentioned that bad situation developing here, south of little rock, in the southern half of arkansas. and then just a rainstorm. we may get some isolated flash flooding tomorrow, but i'm not as concerned as what we're dealing with now. and finally, there is a lot of talk about what is going to happen with these windchills. it is a one day event, friday night into the first half of saturday, it is going to blow through in a hurry, it is going to be, like, a peek of winter, as cold as you would feel it in areas of northern new england. right now the windchill is typical. 5, 10, you see many in the teens. but come saturday morning, when the winds are howling, and the temperatures are negative, we're in the negative 40s in vermont, negative 48 in bangor, maine.
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i saw the end of the appalachian trail, lindsey, that's supposed to be negative 80. if you ever traveled the appalachian trail, that's pretty significant. >> that's cold. >> yes. >> bill karins, thanks. president biden hosts kevin mccarthy at the white house this afternoon. the looming debt limit fight on the agenda. plus, former president trump might get his first official 2024 opponent in the republican primary race. why nikki haley who served in trump's cabinet looks likely to make a move. s cabinet looks lik make a move.
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debt on june 5th, unless congress acts and right now neither side is signaling that they're willing to budge. biden says raising the debt limit is nonnegotiable. here is what mccarthy told reporters yesterday. >> the white house is saying they're going to want assurances the u.s. won't devolve on its debt. is that something -- >> the best way they can do that is to say they're willing to negotiate. only irresponsible way is to play a political game and say we're not going to talk about it. sounds pretty childish to me. >> joining me now is ryan nobles and our white house correspondent mike memoli is in washington ahead of that critical meeting. ryan, how optimistic are both sides going into this meeting? >> reporter: well, lindsey, define optimistic, right? there is a range here. i think just the fact that the two men will be in the same room is a reason for optimism, but whether or not anything tangible will result from this meeting at least in the short-term, the expectations are very low. this is what kevin mccarthy said about the meeting yesterday, kind of setting the stage for the conversation.
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he said the only thing that i'm really going to gauge is do you want to negotiate? or do you want to play politics? but eventually we have to dance together so when do you want to play the music? now or later? mccarthy going to make the argument to biden in this conversation today they should start the music now because even though there is a degree of time before the debt limit is reached, that they want to give these negotiations moving so that something can happen. obviously publicly biden planted a flag that they are not going to negotiate anything related to the debt ceiling. that probably isn't practical. they have to have some sort of a conversation. and we'll see if those talks begin today. >> so, mike, as we continue that comparison, i guess the president is essentially saying we can dance, but i'm picking the song. what can we know about the strategy and how would he learn from his days as vice president as sort of informing his position today? >> well, lindsey, it is never a good sign for a meeting when the two parties of that meeting can
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agree with the meeting is even about. kevin mccarthy saying this is the kickoff of negotiations, president biden holding firm to the idea that the debt limit and raising it is nonnegotiable. but this is where president biden's experience more than ten years ago as vice president comes into play. and the obama administration, he was the lead negotiator, sitting down with mccarthy's predecessor as house majority leader, eric cantor, leaders from the senate, to come up with a balanced agreement that both sides could live with to cut spending and ultimately raise the debt ceiling. as biden would later recall, republicans walked away from the table unwilling to negotiate on key things like letting the then bush tax cuts expire as part of that deal. and so i traveled with then vice president biden. once the deal was finally agreed to, only at the cost of a downgrade of the u.s. credit rating where he did fault the republicans for walking away from the table. biden's view now is republicans need to negotiate with each other, as he put it, show me your budget you can agree to
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within your own party and then we can maybe have a conversation. it is really an important red line because as we also heard when i was with you in new york yesterday, biden telling donors, mccarthy had to make all these off the wall promises to his caucus, he wants to make sure republicans can live up to their end of any bargain before he has those negotiations with them. >> ryan nobles, mike memoli, thank you. the first potential gop challenge to donald trump's 2024 presidential bid is set to come from someone within his former administration. three sources tell nbc news former south carolina governor and former ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley is expected to move closer to launching a presidential bid, setting the stage for a february 15th announcement. the former president was asked about the possibility of haley running earlier this week and said this to reporters. >> nikki haley called me the other day to talk to me, talked to her for a little while. i said, look, go by your heart if you want to run. she's publicly stated i would never run against my president,
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he was a great president. i'd never run. >> did she tell you she was -- >> no, but she called me, she said she would like to consider it. >> so letting you know? >> i said, you should do it. >> joining me now, nbc news senior national political reporter jonathan alan. jonathan, what do you think haley is choosing to jump in now and how is this expected announcement likely landing at mar- nki haley is announcing now to try to get a jump on the other competition that might be out there, whether you're talking about florida governor ron desantis or former secretary of state mike pompeo, former vice president mike pence, and a whole host of others. this gives her an opportunity to start raising money to start hiring staff, and to make sure that she doesn't wait too long to grab the attention while she can. as far as how it is landing in mar-a-lago, donald trump has a very solid 30% or so of the republican party that will do anything for him, perhaps a little larger than that. so the rest of the field for
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him, it is better if it is bigger. the other candidates are going to be dividing up the nontrump vote. i think, you know, you heard there from former president trump that this is not something that particularly bothers him and i think, you know, if folks were -- if he was a total truth serum there, he would say, please run, please encourage your friends to run. and, look, you know, nikki haley is going to be out in charleston on february 15th. sent out an invitation to people yesterday for the -- an event at the shed in south carolina. she'll get a moment from that. and then we'll see whether or not she is a viable presidential candidate. >> okay, jonathan alan, we'll talk to you then. thanks. not backing down. embattled republican congressman george santos is defying calls to resign. we caught up with the congressman this morning after a poll from his district showed 78% of his constituents want him to resign. here's what he said.
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>> 78%. >> i didn't order a poll, so i'm not -- >> this poll -- >> 78% of people in your district -- >> i didn't order your poll. if i order a poll, i'll -- >> can we talk about your committee assignments? >> yesterday, santos sat down for a lengthy interview with the network oan. nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake is here. did we learn anything from the interview he did? >> reporter: not anything useful. polling data tends to be still relevant whether you paid for the poll or not. santos' dismissal of the question there with polling data showing vast majority of his constituents want him to hang it up, what we saw from the interview from oan, a softball sit-down perhaps to warm him up for more interviews in the future was that he doesn't like
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his media coverage. he and every other member of congress i've ever covered, and he thinks he has sufficiently apologized for the many fabrications that have gotten him to this point. here is what he said in that interview about his posture on apologizing. >> i don't know what is asked of me right now when you ask, oh, you have not shown remorse or you don't seem to look sorry, i don't know what looking sorry looks like to you. >> reporter: the bottom line, he's going to face more questions, i think after that interview than he did before. he didn't address substantively any of the accusations about any of the things he fabricated other than, again, admitting to having made up his educational background. tip of the iceberg here for someone who stepped back from their committees, but is clearly still very much in the public spotlight going forward. >> garrett haake, thank you. up next, the man accused of
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kidnapping and torturing a woman in oregon and using dating apps to lure others has died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. what we know about the standoff. new debate over what exactly alec murdaugh said in an early interview with investigators. >> i did him so bad. n early interview with investigators. >> i did him so bad. like the subway series menu. just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer. so let's see some hustle! (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network. thiso you can do more thaner. connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence.
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responding to a home and finding a woman bound and severely beaten into unconsciousness. that woman was last reported being in critical condition. well, cell phones are the focus this morning in the trial of disbarred lawyer alex measur murdaugh. nbc's catie beck joins me now with the latest from the trial. what are we learning this morning in court? >> reporter: well, this cell phone data is absolutely crucial to the prosecution's case. what they're trying to do is plant seeds with the jury that these phones were moved around and messages and airplane modes switched on to try and throw investigators off. they're not saying that directly, but they're trying to get line of questioning from these forensics investigators to indicate there was some suspicious activity on those phones on the night of the
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murder. what they said yesterday about maggie murdaugh's phone, an hour and a half before alex called 911, she had five missed calls from alex on her phone. now, that is more suspicious because when they recovered alex's phone months later, those calls did not exist in his call log, suggesting they had been removed or deleted somehow by the time investigators confiscated his phone to try to match up the evidence. here's the testimony from the stand on that. >> so at some point between when the calls were placed on the night of june 7th, and when you got the phone september, those calls disappeared off the phone, correct? >> the calls were not on the phone anymore. how it happened, i don't know. >> okay. did you do anything in your investigation, in your extraction or analysis, to potentially remove those calls? >> no, sir.
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i did not. >> reporter: it is pretty amazing listening to the forensics investigators what they are able to determine from these phones, based on step tracking as well. they are able to tell how the phones moved around, how many steps were taken between which periods of time, they were just discussing a few moments ago paul murdaugh's phone and how it was moving until the time of death to calculate when the time of death was. and bombshell video, we haven't seen yet, but we heard about it, opening arguments on paul's phone, where he's actually recording a video for a friend of a dog in the kennel, supposedly, according to prosecutors, you can hear alex's voice in the background. that's a pretty big piece of evidence if the jury believes it because it pretty much blows his alibi out of the water. he said he was never in that kennel until he discovered the bodies. lindsey? >> catie beck, thank you. coming up in just a few hours, the federal reserve will
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the decision is expected at 2:00 p.m. eastern. analysts believe the fed will announce another hike, the eighth in a row. a smaller one this time. joining me now from the new york stock exchange is cnbc's morgan brennan. what will you be watching for? >> 100% chance of a rate hike, as you touched on. that's what's priced into the markets. the question, how large that will be. widely expected to be a quarter of a percentage point when we get that announcement. that would represent a further slowdown in the pace of tightening coming off of a half a percent increase we saw from the fed in december and then four before that. why are we seeing the slowing pace? data softens, inflation is cooling. still much too high for the fed's liking. of course, given the fact we did see this fast and furious pace of increases last year, there's a lag affect in terms of those
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largely lower, with the dow down 270 points ahead of this key policy decision later this afternoon. >> morgan, when we have these decisions, we typically talk about how they impact big companies, wall street. what about the average american? how does this affect them today? >> what you are going to see is borrowing costs continuing to rise. certainly, that's been a dramatic increase if you look at mortgage rates. we have seen the effects starting to play out in the housing market as well with potential buyers coming out of the market. also potential sellers coming out of the market given the fact mortgages are more expensive. similar situation with credit cards, with certain types of loans, college loans and college debt, for example. all of this is meant by the fed to basically tamp down demand to help slow the economy and help bring those major multi-decade price increases, rate of price increases we have seen in the last year or so down to something a little more normal.
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hopefully, the worst of it is over. but we have to see. >> morgan brennan, thank you. one of the greatest to play the game of football is saying good-bye. again. tom brady posted an emotional video to his twitter account this morning saying he would be retiring. this time, quote, for good. >> i won't be long-winded. you get one super emotional retirement essay. i used mine up last year. thank you guys for allowing me to live my absolute dream. i wouldn't change a thing. love you all. >> brady announced his retirement the first time in february of 2022. that lasted about 40 days before his return to the tampa bay buccaneers. he spent 23 seasons in the nfl, 20 of which were with the patriots. of course, in addition to breaking many records, he led his teams to seven super bowl titles, winning mvp five times. that does it for me.
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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," fbi agents searching president biden's delaware beach house today as the mishandled classified documents controversy continues to plague the white house. in contrast to the mar-a-lago fbi search, this was planned and done with the president's consent without a
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