jersey governor phil murphy about police reform at the local level and a new youth mental health initiative in his state. good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. at this hour, less than a day after tyre nichols' funeral, a key republican senator says no to nichols' mother, president biden, and democrats who have been calling for the passage of the george floyd justice for policing act. what does tim scott think can get done? i'll be talking to critical players in the debate throughout the hour from the state house to the white house including new jersey governor phil murphy and senior white house aide keisha lance bottoms. and 643 days, more than a dozen possible republican candidates. is the fear of challenging trump in 2024 in the rearview mirror? plus, the just released

information about the potential contender whose home is about to be searched for classified material according to people familiar with the matter. frozen power lines, fallen trees, the misery in texas where ice storms have led to power outages for more than 400,000 people. how long before they get it back? but we begin with the demands for police reform, proclaimed loudly from the pulpit at the mississippi boulevard christian church, and yet, seeming to fall on deaf ears in the halls of congress. later this afternoon, the congressional black caucus is set to meet with president biden demanding new laws to address police brutality hoping that the horrific death of tyre nichols might unlock the political will to do something this time. but senator tim scott is now saying that discussions about bringing back the george floyd justice in policing act that failed 16 months ago are a nonstarter. and so once again, the cycle of outrage, grief, and frustration.

as the reverend turner said on wednesday, the wait falls most heavily on families who hold out hope that the loved ones sacrificed as tyre's mother called it was worth it. >> this family has endure ds the unsolicited, unwarranted, unreasonable, unjustifiable and massive burden of grieving their loved one, and at the same time, fighting for justice. >> there should be no other child that should suffer the way my son and all the other parents here have lost their children. we need to get that bill passed. because if we don't, that blood, the next child that dies, that blood is going to be on their hands. >> yeah, yeah. >> i want to bring in charles blow, "new york times" columnist and an msnbc political analyst

who was at the nichols' funeral. it's good to see you, charles. look, you've spoken about this. you've written about the need to keep the families humanity front and center, not to treat them or tyre nichols as leaders of a cause. i want to read a little bit of what you wrote. they are drafted into a war without warning or preparation, a war in which the enemy is entrenched and the comrades beleaguered. they are made to polish to respectfully receive an endless stream of condolences when the soul craves silence, and sadly, this is not the first family yesterday that you've spoken to under these unimaginable circumstances. so what is your takeaway? what is the message you want people to understand about what we as a nation are asking them to lead? >> you know, it's a tricky situation for them.

what the country keeps teaching them and telling them is that this is the only path forward if you want justice for your slain child, and we have learned it over and over throughout american history for black parents, whether that be this most recent set of mothers or the movement as they are called or if it's emmett till or ida b. wells, you know, pointing out a lot of lynchings in the south. the way the path to progress is through your pain, right? and so these families make that choice. they make that tradeoff. america makes them bargain away the solitude of mourning that any of us should have a right to because they realize that is the only path they have towards possible justice for the slain child, and that is on the

microlevel, you know, there is also the operation on the macro level, on the federal and the policy level in which people use that pain, that sacrifice that these families are making, and they use that to advance the policy that tries to protect everyone writ large and not just the individual. so it's a very complicated situation that is only happening in this way because america refuses to act to protect the citizens who are being killed. >> and you do get the sense and i have not met the nichols' family yet, but i've met many families, again, as i said you have. because they need, right, there's this desperate need to make this loss, this overwhelming, shocking loss mean something, and if they can't do that, then what's it for?

but on the other hand, the sacrifices that they make to put themselves out there, to answer these questions, to be the face of this is almost -- it's unimaginable. we keep talking about how poised they are, how their words move us. but at what cost, charles? >> it can be a heroic and unimaginable, also on a certain level cruel. and i don't think that we always understand that. i remember meeting with tamir rice's mom on the one-year anniversary after his death, i met her in the back of a church -- >> 12 years old let's remind people, 12 years old. >> 12 years old. and the woman came in and she said, i feel your pain and she hugged her, and the first thing that she said to me is that i'm tired of hugging people.

i'm tired of people saying they feel my pain because they have no idea. but because these women are thrust into activism a year out, five years out, they're still the poster child for a tragedy, and that transforms mourning, right? it is not the natural sacred mourning that most of us will experience. it is not also the inarticulate mourning that we will experience when all we can do is moan or yell or whatever. it is not the messy mourning, you know, when you're crying so hard that you can hardly breathe. that is also part of the mourning that these women, these families don't always get access to. i remember being with sam dubose's mother. she could barely get herself in and out of a car. she was grabbing onto my arm to get in and out of the car. i thought she was kind of weakened. and then i sat in on a

television interview with her, and she sprang to life and she was so articulate and so passionate. as soon as it was over we were standing and she leans in to me and whispers, i just want to go home and close the door and never come out. i realize that vacillation between hero and the hurt person is always happening for these people, these women, these families, and that we don't give enough respect and honor to the pain of it. we just combined of propel and pat people on the back and say, okay, you're so strong, but sometimes people don't want to be strong in the middle of their grief. >> and there's going to be for many of them another kind of pain. they're going to have to be in the courtroom as the people accused of murder go to trial, and so let me bring in nbc's ellison barber in memphis. ellison, i know we have obtained nbc news has obtained the police report that was filed after nichols' death clearly at odds

with what we saw in the video. what does it tell us? does it shed any more light on the officers' frame of mind surrounding what happened or just what happened? >> reporter: i mean, there are just so many glaring discrepancies, i think a lot of people would point to them and say blatant lies in this police report compared to what we have seen from the numerous videos of that night, the body camera footage at that first stop, the body camera footage and the street camera footage at that second interaction. this report actually first came to pretty much everyone's attention because a local member of this community who is known on facebook. he's a long-time memphis resident, a talk show host. he's known on facebook as the cussing pastor. he obtained a copy, a photo of this police report. posted it on facebook, our colleague priscilla thompson was then able to verify the account in that unofficial report with a

spokesperson from the d.a.'s office. the memphis police department has not released this. they have not said at least in communications with nbc news when they plan to release it. but a spokesperson within the d.a.'s office did tell nbc news that this account, this summary of events matches the official initial police report that they have. let me try and go through some of this line by line with you because i think it's important for people to hear exactly what is said in this report and think of what they saw in the videos from that night. so i'm going to quote as much as i can directly from this unofficial copy of the report. it says that tyre nichols refused a lawful detention and that he started to fight with detectives. detectives gave verbal commands to stop resisting, and then the suspect tyre nichols grabbed for detective martin's gun. now, switching to my words here, none of that happened based on the video evidence we've seen. officers yanked him out of the car at that first stop. at no point in the video that we

have seen so far do we see tyre nichols go for an officer' weapon or side holster or anything like that. this report then goes on to say that first scene a chemical agent was deployed as well as a taser, but nichols, they say pulled the taser probes out and ran away. we do see that in the videos. next, this report describes that second encounter where we saw the most egregious beating take place. in terms of that spot, that location, it says while officers were trying to detain nichols he was actively resisting police by pulling duty belts and grabbing one officer by his vest. it says a chemical agent was used again and that one office used, quote, his department-issued baton while attempting to get the suspect, tyre nichols to comply. what it does not mention, chris, is that officers repeatedly punched and kicked nichols. it makes no mention of that, and that is incredibly apparent in the video we have seen from that night. it also makes no mention of the fact that when they were doing that, tyre nichols was

handcuffed, and at one point being held by other officers while he was being attacked. >> ellison barber, thank you. charles blow, thank you for the remarkable column that's in the "new york times" this morning and appreciate your coming on this show. so the question becomes is the federal government going to act, because if they fail to, is reform up to state and local leaders? joining me right now the governor of new jersey, phil murphy, who is also chair of the national governor's association. it's good to see you again, governor. a lot i want to get to. i want to start with what vice president harris said at the funeral yesterday about a possible path to reform. >> as vice president of the united states, we demand that congress pass the george floyd justice and policing act. joe biden will sign it. [ cheers and applause ] and we should not delay, and we will not be denied. it is nonnegotiable. >> but tim scott, who's key to

these negotiations -- i don't know if you heard us talk about it at the top of the show. he said that is a nonstarter. jim jordan in charge of the house judiciary committee, which would handle this kind of legislation has said you tell me what law is going to change that terrible behavior we saw. look, i know you stay apprise of these things. new jersey senator cory booker has been a leading voice in trying to get the justice in policing act passed. i wonder what conversations you've had with him. do you see a federal path to change? >> chris, good to be with you, and i would just say you watch the video, as a dad, as a public servant, and it more than breaks your heart. god bless this guy. he should be alive and well today, so let there be no doubt about it. i'm not sure i've got any unique insights onto the federal path other than to say i say with

respect the comments by senator scott and congressman jordan are not helpful and probably not constructive toward getting to some smart place, and i would disagree strongly with the congressman. by the way, we're not perfect by any means. this is a journey. we're working on every day deepening the relationship between law enforcement and the communities they serve, but we were on the body cameras long before most states. we passed an independent prosecutor's law, which means if there's any deaths or shooting in the presence of a member of law enforcement it automatically goes to an independent process, which must end in a grand jury. we now license our law enforcement professionals, which is a huge step not just for the members of law enforcement but for the communities. so in the absence of federal action, we will keep at the state level taking steps that we hopefully will deepen those

relationships and prevent something awful like this from happening again. >> so let me ask you about two specific things, governor, because they have been brought up by numerous state lawmakers afternoon the country including in new jersey. the first one qualified immunity for officers. do you support that? >> i've said to folks, listen, there's no legislation on my desk. i've said to folks i'm open minded, period. just yesterday i was asked and i said, listen, at every awful incident whether it happened in new jersey or elsewhere in this case in memphis, we've looked in the mirror and asked ourselves what can we do to make our laws, our practices stronger to avoid a tragedy like that, as i said, continuing to deepen the relationship between law enforcement and the communities they serve. >> so would you potentially support ending qualified immunity or do you have concerns? i know you haven't seen wording of legislation, but certainly these conversations have been going on for a while now.

so what afternoon that could you support or is that a nonstarter for you? >> i'd say at this point nothing could be said to be a nonstarter. that's why i think senator scott and congressman jordan's congressmens are so unhelpful. how could we be presented with this tragedy and not all of us, regardless of our party or what level of government we serve look in the mirror and say what can we do to prevent something like this from happening again. and i have to say also, the overwhelming -- i'll speak for new jersey -- the overwhelming amount of members of law enforcement come in every day putting their lives on the line, doing the right things. let's do everything we can to limit the tragedy that we saw the other day. >> there's another key topic i want to talk to you about because i mentioned you're chair of the national governor's association, and this is something i know you're going to be focusing on next week, and that is an effort to increase awareness around youth mental health. study after study shows this.

this is at a crisis point. what have you seen, experienced, what makes this a priority for you and what do you think you can accomplish? >> yeah, chris, a good question, chris. first of all, the national governor's association is a bipartisan organization. the chair and vice chair alternate between parties and i'm honored to have republican governor spencer cox as our voice chair. when you become the chair, they give you an initiative to then take around the country and convene, and as you rightfully point out, mine is strengthening youth mental health, we convened in salt lake city last week. in los angeles we'll be in the nation's capital next week and michigan in the spring and on the jersey shore in the summer. we've all seen it. this is one of these things which unites all of us as governors across the political spectrum. we had a mental health challenge among our youth before the pandemic. it's only gotten worse. so what we do is we get into

rooms with experts, with governors, with entities that fund programs, and we're developing over the course of this year a playbook that we'll have by next summer that we can put on the shelf for governors and other leaders to say, okay, this is the menu, if you will. the recipe to push back against what we know is a scourge of mental health challenges among our kids. >> i hope you'll come back then with more of the specifics if not before. new jersey governor phil murphy, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you, chris. we'll have more, by the way, on president biden's meeting with the congressional black caucus that's coming up in just a few hours. senior adviser to the president keisha lance bottoms will join me after attending tyre nichols' funeral yesterday, that's coming up. plus, who's afraid of the former president? the republicans lining up to take on donald trump in 2024 and

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just ahead of president biden's meeting with black lawmakers, which is a few hours away and less than a day after heartbreaking calls for change at tyre nichols' funeral, a key republican senator, tim scott says that legislation that democrats want isn't happening. joining me now former atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms, now senior adviser and director of the office of public engagement for the biden administration. she was at the funeral in memphis yesterday. thank you for joining us. i'm sure as a mother, as a human being, the words of rowvaughn welt hit you hard. she said if the george floyd justice in policing act isn't passed, the blood of the next child who dies will be on the hands of lawmakers in washington. even with that, is it time for the white house to say, yes, we want the george floyd justice in policing act, we believe in it.

but realistically that's not happening this session, so here's what we can do. is that where we are? >> yesterday was heart wrenching for so many of us to witness, and of course to just see the grief of that family because what we know is that this was a loved one who was killed. and the reality is that there were so many in the audience yesterday who have experienced this same grief. and what president joe biden has said repeatedly is that he thinks it's past time that this bill land on his desk for signing. and what really strikes me when you talk about senator tim scott is that this is an african american man who knows the statistics. african americans are more than twice as likely to be killed than white americans in these deadly encounters with police officers. we know that there's law enforcement across the country who gets up each and every day, honors your duty to protect and

serve, but to the extent that there are those who don't, there is legislation that needs to be passed by congress, and it needs to be passed immediately. >> but it's one thing to say it's past time. it's another thing to say here's how we're going to get it over the finish line. joe biden ran on 36 years experience in the senate. his ability, he said, to bring two sides together and, yet, when you have a tim scott saying what he has said, when you have seen the intransigence on the other side, my question remains, is there a plan to get there? what is the action that's being taken now to do it or realistically, is there something else that the white house is working on because they know that in this congress it's not going to happen? >> well, we know that there are three branches of government, and what the president has done is signed an executive order to do what he can do from the white house. but it's also the reason that he is meeting today with leaders of

the congressional black caucus to determine what more, if anything, can be done together to get this legislation passed. he's used the power of his pen to sign an executive order banning chokeholds, to ban no-knock warrants and so many other things that we know are important in this legislation. but now it's time for congress to act. so to the extent that the president can use his experience and his ability to help get this over the finish line, he certainly will do that as he has done for the more than two years that he's now been in the white house. but there is only so much that he can do without congress acting. what we know is that this legislation made it through the house. the senate stoppe it. tim scott helped stop this legislation. so we need senators to act. we need members of the house to act, and the president is going

to continue to use the power of his pen from the white house to do what he can do to make sure what we witnessed with tyre nichols, what was experienced by his family is not experience bid other families across this country. >> if this fight continues if it doesn't get done, let's talk about what else might get done elsewhere because back in 2020 when you were mayor, rayshard brooks was shot in the back by atlanta police and killed. as a result, you changed the use of force policy for the atlanta police department. is there advice that you have? is there advice that you've been giving or that you've been asked for from mayors, local leaders to chart a way forward for police reform? >> well, we know there's only so much that can be done from the white house. there was a shooting a couple of weeks ago in atlanta at the hands of a state patrol who did not have a body-worn camera. this also protects officers. this also presents a record as

to these encounters that we can have -- we can see on camera, and my advice to people across the country, to leaders across the country, is take a look at your policies. what we learned during the rayshard brooks killing is that there is a need for training to be done differently. so many of our officers are trained to shoot to kill. they aren't trained to shoot to maim. they aren't trained to shoot to stop. we have to lack look at how our officers are trained. we also made a policy change in atlanta that led to other changes across the country, where even our officers who were on loan to federal agencies were required to wear body-worn cameras. so there's always an ability for change to be effectuated on the local and state level and also in coordination at the federal level. that's the only way there's going to be meaningful change across this country.

>> keisha lance bottoms, senior adviser to the president. thank you so much. we appreciate your time today. >> thank you. within the last hour, a contentious and emotional fight on the floor of the house, republicans making good on their promise to boot democratic congresswoman ilhan omar from her seat on the foreign affairs committee. the final vote 218 to 211. one republican voted present. here's a defiant omar just ahead of that vote. >> my leadership and voice will not be diminished. if i am not on this committee for one term. my voice will get louder and stronger and my leadership will be celebrated around the world as it has been. >> the vote came just after omar who has been a fierce critic of israel supported a democratic resolution condemning anti-semitism and recognizing israel as america's legitimate and democratic ally. well, now the feds are said to be looking into congressman

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claims. nbc's ali vitali is on capitol hill, barbara mcquade is a former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst. ali, what more do we know about this potential fbi investigation, and are you hearing anything from republicans on the hill? >> reporter: well, chris, look, the fbi is not confirming this. they have not responded to our requests for comment, but the fact that we are hearing this from the navy veteran who says that he turned over this information is notable because up until this point, yes, we've been covering the lies that george santos has told. we've talked about the possible ethics exposures and the possible campaign finance violations, but now here we have a confirmed instance of an investigation from the fbi. it's notable against the backdrop of the fact that santos has just stepped off of these two committees that he was appointed to. he has continued to say that this is not something that he has done regarding taking these funds from the dying dog, but nevertheless when we asked him about this yesterday in the aftermath of this news, he

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case sounds like maybe it's a little old and it's a little small to merit their consideration, when it involves someone who is in a position of power, that can make it more important, and it can also be the case that this is only one episode of prior acts of fraud. if you can show a pattern of that kind of fraudulent activity, that can become a much bigger case. as you say, the campaign finance investigation if there is one certainly makes sense to me, if someone sought donations on the basis of a fraud, that could be a basis for either campaign finance violations or even wire fraud if the wires were used for that purpose. and they are. whenever you use an email or post something online or even file your campaign statements electronically. >> so as we continue to follow that, barbara, "the wall street journal" is also reporting that the fbi is expected to search former vice president mike pence's indiana home for classified material in the coming days. that's according to people familiar with the matter, and

nbc has not confirmed that reporting. we have reached out to both pence and the fbi. we haven't heard back. but clearly there seems to be an expansion of where they're going, right? to houses, offices, of a number of different people, presidents, vice presidents, is much of this likely about what seems to be to a lot of outsiders a real need to assess how documents are tracked or are there potentially legal implications here? >> two things at work here, one is a counterintelligence assessment of whether any national secrets have been compromised. so i can imagine why the fbi wants to search. i don't think this is a search warrant, and we really need to draw the difference there between a consensual search, an invitation to the fbi to come in, take everything and make sure i don't have anything i'm not supposed to have and give me a clean bill of health, which this appears to be, which is similar to the searches we've seen at the biden homes. the difference between that and a court-authorized search warrant for evidence of a crime, which we saw in the trump case of mar-a-lago, and so i think

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ice, that's how a lot of the vehicles are losing control. when authorities communicate to us that there's been nor accidents. we know there's been at least eight deaths because of the weather, every single one of those descriptions of these accidents has a part that says driver lost control when they came across a patch of ice. it's those patches of ice that have been so dangerous. when it comes to the power grid, we have been informed that some of these trees that have fallen because of the ice have damaged power lines so with the temperature rising, more work can be done, and authorities will do their best to restore the power to anyone that has been going through these issues. the good news now is that the temperature is rising and the ice will begin to melt. it's just a matter of time and to be careful while that ice is melting. there is a lot of it across the region. chris. >> guad venegas, you and your crew stay safe. thank you. in case you missed it today is groundhog day, unfortunately,

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